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Game Thread 2: Pistons/Bucks

Detroit Pistons at Milwaukee Bucks, Oct 31, 2009 7:30 PM CDT


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1-1 (1-0 road)
0-1 (0-0 home)
October 31, 2009 - 7:30 PM CT
Bradley Center
Radio: 620 WTMJ TV: FS Wisconsin HD

Probable starters:

Rodney Stuckey PG Brandon Jennings
Ben Gordon
SG Michael Redd
Tayshaun Prince SF Carlos Delfino
Charlie Villanueva PF Kurt Thomas
Ben Wallace
C Andrew Bogut
103.4 (16th)
Off 87.8 (29th)
95.3 (4th)
Def 101.1 (9th)
86.6 (30th)
Pace 98.0 (3rd)

Star-divide

The return of Charlie V.  OK, so he was back in town just over a week ago as well, but the difference is that now it's for real.   Charlie's first two games of the season haven't been anything to write home about, as CV has made just 6/19 shots for 15 points in 51 minutes.  We've all seen that CV before, which was a big reason why the Bucks said thanks but no thanks this summer.  Still, Villanueva's way too explosive not to have his breakout game soon, and if his hot nights against the Raptors are any indication, he certainly likes playing against his former teams. 

One key question is who the Bucks will match up against Villanueva.  I haven't seen anything yet about Kurt Thomas going to the bench for this game, but Warrick, Ilyasova, or Mbah a Moute would all seem like better matchups to start this one.  Warrick might be the best choice since he can both keep up with Villanueva athletically while also drawing fouls on him on the other end.  Skiles could also go with Ilyasova, who looked to have a nice understanding with Jennings last night, though he also had his share of shaky moments.  And Mbah a Moute could be saved to chase Ben Gordon (23.5 ppg), who has been coming off the bench but will start in Rip Hamilton's absence. Starting a more mobile PF would also free up Thomas to backup Bogut and minimize the amount of time Dan Gadzuric is on the floor. Never a bad thing.

BJ vs. the world. Brandon Jennings' debut deservedly raised eyebrows around the league, but Stuckey/Will Bynum certainly looks like a tougher matchup than Lou Williams provided last night.  Stuckey has a significant size advantage while Bynum also gave Jennings problems in the preseason.

Big Ben/Little Ben.  Bogut will look to bounce back from a bad night in Philly against Ben Wallace, a guy he's historically seemed to struggle against.  Perhaps more concerning is how well Bogut deals with playing 30+ mpg on a back-to-back.

But the real dangerman for Detroit is Ben Gordon, who always seems to kill the Bucks. Gordon has averaged 21.3 ppg in his career against the Bucks, nearly 3 ppg better than his career number, and put up 23 ppg last year with the Bulls. 

Delfino Debuts.  After serving his one game suspension last night in Philly, Carlos Delfino makes his Bucks debut tonight against the team he started his NBA career with, matching up against Prince, a guy he went head to head with in practice for two seasons.  We know Delfino's not a world-beater, but watching Mbah a Moute brick jumpers last night underscored how much the Bucks need someone at the small forward spot who can be a credible scoring threat.  Mbah a Moute could certainly start at some point, but he needs to show some consistency from 18 feet--or be surrounded by better scorers.  I don't think we'll be seeing the latter anytime this season.

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Watching this one on FSN Detroit

Jennings has been completely manhandled in the first quarter. It’s been tough to watch. Redd’s gotta hit those open threes.

by rulesofredd on Oct 31, 2009 8:13 PM CDT reply actions  

Bogut

I think Bogut is the real problem of this half, Jennings has been bad on the defensive end of the floor but has still been able to run the team on offense.

Bogut has been getting beaten up in the post, he’s like 1-5 with 2 points and 4 rebounds, he can’t make one shut and doesn’t look to be giving much effort. If we had an inside game our outside shots would start to open up.

by Blake. on Oct 31, 2009 8:48 PM CDT reply actions  

He honestly looks stiff…like his back is bothering him. I hope I’m just seeing things because I’m looking for trouble, but he looks slower and less lively than usual. Not to mention he has done nothing.

by rulesofredd on Oct 31, 2009 9:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

WOW

This is as fun as I’ve hd watching a bucks game in a while. Jennings is electric.

by rulesofredd on Oct 31, 2009 9:18 PM CDT reply actions  

Apparently Jennings crushed the 3rd!

I was working, and am going to a party, but it’s awesome to see. :)

I support the Tornado Release [See: Joakim Noah]

by Prevenge on Oct 31, 2009 10:25 PM CDT reply actions  

1st half a dud; 2nd half a stud

Jennings and Warrick really brought energy in the 3rd quarter … the whole team followed suit and played tough defense until the final buzzer.

Redd leaves early in the 2nd half, though, after a breakaway steal and layup/dunk. Soreness in his repaired left knee …. no!

by TrevorG on Oct 31, 2009 11:00 PM CDT reply actions  

Somebody has to attack

Thank goodness Warrick was willing to do it tonight, because Redd/Bogut weren’t. I liked how he played with Ilyasova too.

Major credit to the role players in general, they really turned the screws defensively, swarmed the ball and were active on the offensive glass.

by Frank Madden on Nov 1, 2009 1:35 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, nice to see the Bucks pull it out without Redd or Bogut contributing. On the other hand, I hope it’s just the back-to-back at the start of the season that’s to blame for neither of them looking good (Redd had better stretches, tho) in these two games. Worrisome. Bogut just looks bad out there.

by curak on Nov 1, 2009 5:40 AM CDT up reply actions  

Jennings

I have seen both games.

BJ has an excellent shot at ROY.

For what it is worth.

His numbers of 21-6-6 after 2 games are almost identical to Lebron’s numbers in his rookie year.

by Buddahfan on Oct 31, 2009 11:02 PM CDT reply actions  

Didn't see this coming

I thought we’d see games like this from time to time, but to start the season this way is just awesome. He has yet to go against a top-drawer PG, but it looks like it’s only a matter of time before he becomes one himself. After all the luck we’ve had with picks the last few years, it sure is nice to be on the other side of it.

by Frank Madden on Nov 1, 2009 1:38 AM CDT up reply actions  

Brandon Jennings Rocks

While I primarily like the Mavs and Jazz in NBA spheres, the Bucks are also a team I like. I had the opportunity to watch this game on NBA League Pass’ free preview and Brandon Jennings is clutch. The Bucks have to be ecstatic to have Jennings and Redd in the backcourt together. As for the Pistons, it may be rebuilding time. Ben Gordon and Rodney Stuckey are studs but Tayshaun did next to nothing. The Pistons definitely need more consistency from him. We’ll see how far the Bucks can go. It was also awesome to see the hard-working people of Milwaukee announce the entire lineup. More teams should do that!

Brad James

by the Bradfather on Nov 1, 2009 1:55 AM CDT reply actions  

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