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Game 9: Nets/Bucks

Last January: Ridnour, for the win.

2009/2010 NBA Season

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0-11 (0-6 road)
5-3 (4-1 home)
November 18th, 2009
Bradley Center
7:00 PM
Radio: 620 WTMJ TV: FS Wisconsin
Probable starters:
Rafer Alston
PG Brandon Jennings
Chris Douglas-Roberts
SG Charlie Bell
Trenton Hassell
SF Carlos Delfino
Terrence Williams
PF Hakim Warrick (?)
Brook Lopez
C Andrew Bogut

(30th) 92.2 - OFFENSE -  104.3 (20th)
(12th) 103.2 - DEFENSE - 99.9 (5th)

(23rd) 91.5  - PACE -  94.9 (8th)

 

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UPDATE: Luc Mbah a Moute is out with a sprained left foot.  Listed day-to-day.

Star-divide

  • Due? Yes, the Nets remain winless precisely three weeks after their opener. They are struggling at this sport, but they will win a game, probably sooner rather than later. Even a club with an unsightly -10.27 point differential is bound to come out on top eventually, and they have come quite close. On the same night Brandon Jennings went for a drive to 55, the Nets almost scored their first win of the season in South Beach against the hot, hot Heat. New Jersey made just 30-70 (.429) from the field and had more turnovers (12) than assists (11), but Miami still needed a game-winning buzzer beater from Dwyane Wade to prevail. Another loss last night in Indy, which means Jersey is even more worrisomely due.
  • There's no "O" in New Jersey Nets. Plenty of E's though: effusively embarrassing? The Bucks refocused defensively a bit in the second half against Dallas. After allowing 33 points in each of the first two quarters on Monday, they gave up just 19 in the both the third and fourth quarters. After facing some serious offensive firepower the last few games, Milwaukee welcomes the worst offensive team in the NBA into town tonight. Brook Lopez (who piled up 26/16 and 5 blocks last night in a loss to Indiana) is the most capable of the current bunch, and he worked the Bucks in his rookie season, averaging 16.0 points on 68.4 % from the field in four games. That all came sans Andrew Bogut, but we'll need a better effort early by the Aussie than he brought against Drew Gooden on Monday. Chris Douglas-Roberts (27/12/3 last night) is a hooper, which everyone except NBA scouts (he went 40th two draft ago, just a few spots after Mbah a Moute) seemed to realize. The Nets sorely miss Devin Harris, who is coincidentally sore himself, sidelined with a sore groin. After keeping their first four opponents under the century mark, the Bucks have allowed at least 100 points in each of the past four; though pace is a factor in that equation. In any event, time to start a new under-100 streak, or we unofficially, officially have a problem.  
  • You might want to direct Chris Douglas-Roberts to the right. Fair assessment? 
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Bah

Warrick still starting?

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by RedHopeful on Nov 18, 2009 8:59 AM CST reply actions  

Not sure yet; just based the lineup on the last game. Gardner reports Ilyasova might start.

by Alex Boeder on Nov 18, 2009 11:48 AM CST up reply actions  

The classic "take care of business" game

They’re missing key weapons offensively and this wasn’t a good team to begin with, so zero excuse for not getting a win. These are the games a team like the Bucks can’t afford to lose.

Lopez/Bogut seems the obvious matchup to watch…if Bogut can play Lopez even or better then you’d think the Bucks win.

by Frank Madden on Nov 18, 2009 1:20 PM CST reply actions  

The Bucks need to worry about the Bucks, and get back to playing hard nosed physical defense, rebound, play fast and unselfish on offense, they should win this one going away.

If things are close at the end, lets go through Bogut more. In loses to Dallas and Chicago and almost Golden State, we didn’t even look Boguts way in crunch time.

In turn, Bogut needs to quit being a pussy and take it up strong in the fourth quarter like he does in the first quarter. Quit driving to the front of the rim, get two feet from it, and pass out to a shooter!!!!

Shoot the fvcking ball and get a foul, possibly and one, and the fouls add up to the bonus.

That’s where Jennings will take over a game and Bogut wants to defer. Am I wanting Bogut to do more than he is capible of?

I don’t think so. It’s all mental.

by upnorthfan on Nov 18, 2009 1:28 PM CST reply actions  

Look at that CDR sample size.

He gets a lot of close shots, lol.

I support the Tornado Release ... and Young Bucks.

by Prevenge on Nov 18, 2009 2:19 PM CST reply actions  

Sigh

I guess this makes Ilyasova a shoe in to start? Or since it’s at SF – Delfino?

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by RedHopeful on Nov 18, 2009 6:10 PM CST up reply actions  

Ilyasova may start ahead of Warrick, but I’d assume Delfino goes at the 3 if he’s healthy. Nets look like they’ll be going small with Williams at the 3.

by Frank Madden on Nov 18, 2009 7:10 PM CST up reply actions  

He is so dam good, that hurts.

by upnorthfan on Nov 18, 2009 2:55 PM CST reply actions  

Stream tonight?

Anyone have any idea on a stream tonight? Living in Colorado in an area where cable doesnt carry league pass is killing me!

by danesporty on Nov 18, 2009 5:31 PM CST reply actions  

Remember on slight delay

http://www.atdhe.net/6326/watch-new-jersey-nets-vs-milwaukee-bucks

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by RedHopeful on Nov 18, 2009 6:11 PM CST up reply actions  

Ersan/Delfino start

Lots of Bogut touches early on, couple hoops and lots of dishing

by Frank Madden on Nov 18, 2009 7:15 PM CST reply actions  

This season is the first time I've intentionally watched an NBA game in years

Granted, they’re my second choice tonight, but the Badger game is online only, and costs $3 to watch.

That's all I've got for you today, unless you're interested in some Chris Capuano/Tom Haudricourt Fan Fiction.

by Kyle Lobner on Nov 18, 2009 7:19 PM CST reply actions  

I know, right?

If you had told me three weeks ago that I’d be intrigued by the Bucks at this point, I would have attempted to say something funny in response.

That's all I've got for you today, unless you're interested in some Chris Capuano/Tom Haudricourt Fan Fiction.

by Kyle Lobner on Nov 18, 2009 7:31 PM CST up reply actions  

Indeed

He has three years to save basketball in Milwaukee. Off to a pretty nice start.

That's all I've got for you today, unless you're interested in some Chris Capuano/Tom Haudricourt Fan Fiction.

by Kyle Lobner on Nov 18, 2009 7:34 PM CST up reply actions  

It'll depend on how things go over the next few years.

It’s possible he could resurrect basketball in the city and re-sign. Or, it’s possible he’ll return to Earth and the Bucks will drift back down with him. If he doesn’t win in Milwaukee and draw enough interest, he’ll be gone in three years and the team will be gone a year or two after.

Even in my current intrigued status, though, I’m still not inclined to buy a ticket for a game. They’re ridiculously overpriced, and the Bradley Center is a miserable place to watch a game.

That's all I've got for you today, unless you're interested in some Chris Capuano/Tom Haudricourt Fan Fiction.

by Kyle Lobner on Nov 18, 2009 7:37 PM CST up reply actions  

With that said, I'm hardly an NBA expert.

All I really know about the NBA is what I see on Sportscenter. I recently learned there are teams in the NBA in cities that aren’t New York, Cleveland and Los Angeles.

That's all I've got for you today, unless you're interested in some Chris Capuano/Tom Haudricourt Fan Fiction.

by Kyle Lobner on Nov 18, 2009 7:39 PM CST up reply actions  

They really aren't overpriced. You can buy a 10 dollar ticket and, at this point, most likely move down

“Jenning’s Earth” I still see as spectacular, so I’m not worried about that. I’m thinking optimistically, and believing he’ll resign here

battlekow: Bill is having an oppo-gasm

by Michael M on Nov 18, 2009 7:42 PM CST up reply actions  

I haven't been to a Bucks game in years

But the last time I went was roughly 2001. We had tickets behind one of the baskets in the upper deck, way up. Tried to move down reasonably, to the bottom of the upper deck. Got busted and sent back. I watched the ants play basketball for a while, then left and haven’t been back since.

That's all I've got for you today, unless you're interested in some Chris Capuano/Tom Haudricourt Fan Fiction.

by Kyle Lobner on Nov 18, 2009 7:45 PM CST up reply actions  

I have to admit I haven't been back since then either

but my understanding from talking with people who have is that you can move down now, though I could be wrong.

battlekow: Bill is having an oppo-gasm

by Michael M on Nov 18, 2009 7:47 PM CST up reply actions  

If your pass hits the rim, you're doing it wrong.

That's all I've got for you today, unless you're interested in some Chris Capuano/Tom Haudricourt Fan Fiction.

by Kyle Lobner on Nov 18, 2009 7:23 PM CST reply actions  

Even FSWisconsin doesn't seem to have gotten used to the new Bucks yet

That highlight package going to the break was definitely occasional basketball and mostly cheerleaders.

That's all I've got for you today, unless you're interested in some Chris Capuano/Tom Haudricourt Fan Fiction.

by Kyle Lobner on Nov 18, 2009 7:33 PM CST reply actions  

Where's the defense?

battlekow: Bill is having an oppo-gasm

by Michael M on Nov 18, 2009 7:45 PM CST reply actions  

Ok folks, I'm losing control of the TV

Have a good one.

That's all I've got for you today, unless you're interested in some Chris Capuano/Tom Haudricourt Fan Fiction.

by Kyle Lobner on Nov 18, 2009 7:57 PM CST reply actions  

Jodie Meeks has to make those

Frustrating half, hopefully Skiles rips into him and we can get out of this funk.

battlekow: Bill is having an oppo-gasm

by Michael M on Nov 18, 2009 8:01 PM CST reply actions  

Wow @ that play Jennings just made

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea

by pookeyguru on Nov 18, 2009 8:24 PM CST reply actions  

I mean seriously Wow

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea

by pookeyguru on Nov 18, 2009 8:25 PM CST up reply actions  

He enjoys the third quarter.

by Alex Boeder on Nov 18, 2009 8:25 PM CST up reply actions  

Alex

In all your years watching basketball can you remember a play like that?

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea

by pookeyguru on Nov 18, 2009 8:26 PM CST up reply actions  

Bogut's left handed hook is great

Very underrated.

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea

by pookeyguru on Nov 18, 2009 8:27 PM CST reply actions  

in fact Bogut has been the best player on the court tonight

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea

by pookeyguru on Nov 18, 2009 8:28 PM CST up reply actions  

Another And1 Bogut

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea

by pookeyguru on Nov 18, 2009 8:31 PM CST reply actions  

Bad play by B Money

That was a poor drive & decision by him.

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea

by pookeyguru on Nov 18, 2009 8:32 PM CST reply actions  

Great break by Delfino & Bell

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea

by pookeyguru on Nov 18, 2009 8:36 PM CST reply actions  

Any visual feeds?

The one above is audio only.

I support the Tornado Release ... and Young Bucks.

by Prevenge on Nov 18, 2009 8:38 PM CST reply actions  

I'm watching on Broadband

Something I was not so lucky with last night.

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea

by pookeyguru on Nov 18, 2009 8:38 PM CST up reply actions  

Ridnour has been excellent tonight

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea

by pookeyguru on Nov 18, 2009 8:44 PM CST reply actions  

Jennings & Bogut are back in

Should be interesting from here on out.

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea

by pookeyguru on Nov 18, 2009 8:46 PM CST reply actions  

Great O board by Jennings

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea

by pookeyguru on Nov 18, 2009 8:47 PM CST reply actions  

OH NO JENNINGS HURT!?!?!?!

battlekow: Bill is having an oppo-gasm

by Michael M on Nov 18, 2009 8:48 PM CST reply actions  

He looks okay

But he took a shot off a hard screen. It happens.

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea

by pookeyguru on Nov 18, 2009 8:49 PM CST up reply actions  

Don't blame ya

I did the same thing when Tyreke Evans had problems with his ankle earlier this season.

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea

by pookeyguru on Nov 18, 2009 8:52 PM CST up reply actions  

< yes

I support the Tornado Release ... and Young Bucks.

by Prevenge on Nov 18, 2009 8:54 PM CST up reply actions  

not that I was the target of that question

I support the Tornado Release ... and Young Bucks.

by Prevenge on Nov 18, 2009 8:55 PM CST up reply actions  

and a bull's fan no less haha

battlekow: Bill is having an oppo-gasm

by Michael M on Nov 18, 2009 8:55 PM CST up reply actions  

Not the only reason

Ilyasova is a nice player, I like Bogut and I’m interested to see how it plays out.

I watched the TJ Ford Bucks teams too.

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea

by pookeyguru on Nov 18, 2009 8:57 PM CST up reply actions  

Sorry (I totally mis-understood your comment)

Yeah it was sort of like that. But the difference was that Evans didn’t come back in the game it happened (against the Spurs). I didn’t know that Evans would come back.

The Jennings stinger I could tell was painful and he need a few minutes to recover, but it wasn’t going to make him miss action or anything.

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea

by pookeyguru on Nov 18, 2009 9:09 PM CST up reply actions  

Bogut with the FT jumper

21 now.

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea

by pookeyguru on Nov 18, 2009 8:48 PM CST reply actions  

Have a night Delfino

battlekow: Bill is having an oppo-gasm

by Michael M on Nov 18, 2009 8:53 PM CST reply actions  

Ridnour is playing great tonight

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea

by pookeyguru on Nov 18, 2009 8:57 PM CST reply actions  

Jennings will get the pub

But he had a very rookie level game tonight.

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea

by pookeyguru on Nov 18, 2009 9:01 PM CST reply actions  

He's a PG

It’s hardly the worst thing. Plus, Bogut has been going great tonight. You want to get him the ball.

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea

by pookeyguru on Nov 18, 2009 9:04 PM CST up reply actions  

hits a 3?

:P

I support the Tornado Release ... and Young Bucks.

by Prevenge on Nov 18, 2009 9:04 PM CST up reply actions  

Man ...

Terrence Williams really can’t shoot.

I support the Tornado Release ... and Young Bucks.

by Prevenge on Nov 18, 2009 9:05 PM CST reply actions  

No wonder Ilya wears a mask,

must not be too coordinated; he just took another off his noggin.

by kgaul on Nov 18, 2009 9:09 PM CST reply actions  

Crappy response to pressure by Ridnour

That’s probably his worst play all night.

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea

by pookeyguru on Nov 18, 2009 9:11 PM CST reply actions  

7 TO's by Jennings now

Yowzah.

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea

by pookeyguru on Nov 18, 2009 9:11 PM CST reply actions  

Homer

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea

by pookeyguru on Nov 18, 2009 9:13 PM CST up reply actions  

:P

I support the Tornado Release ... and Young Bucks.

by Prevenge on Nov 18, 2009 9:15 PM CST up reply actions  

Wow New York won tonight

Came back & beat Indy.

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea

by pookeyguru on Nov 18, 2009 9:14 PM CST reply actions  

Wow

battlekow: Bill is having an oppo-gasm

by Michael M on Nov 18, 2009 9:15 PM CST up reply actions  

nice look ahead by Jennings

He didn’t wait to get fouled. I like that.

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea

by pookeyguru on Nov 18, 2009 9:17 PM CST reply actions  

Sweet, just got back into Madison. Saw this one live, and the final score doesn’t tell the story at all. Besides the fact that Bogut has become an absolute beast and dominated the well regarded Brook Lopez on both ends of the court, a lot of the hustle that won this game didn’t shine through. Jennings is a great playmaker, but this game he never found a rhythm. Skiles actually had him at the two with Ridnour taking it up court for much of the second half.

The unsung heroes to me were Ersan Ilyasova and Carlos Delfino. Ersan was crucial in bringing energy at key moments to make big plays that kept the Bucks in it. Carlos Delfino has just recovered from illness and if this is him healthy then more please.

This game was closer than it looked, but that’s okay with me. Lawrence Frank is a hell of a coach regardless of the streak and he has a lot of young talent that will someday grow into something special. Seriously, a team with Harris, Lee, Williams, CDR, and Lopez has a bright future.

The thing that stood out was the Nets ability to drive to the hoop, in particular Alston and Douglas-Roberts. The Bucks desperately need more players that can create contact and get free throws with regularity. Jennings can develop it, but Bogut, Warrick, Ilyasova and Delfino all need to bring it to the hoop every night. It changes everything.

by MadTown Hoops on Nov 19, 2009 1:01 AM CST reply actions  

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