Game Thread 11: Bucks/Grizzlies
by Frank Madden on Nov 21, 2009 4:35 PM CST
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PrintMilwaukee Bucks at Memphis Grizzlies, Nov 21, 2009 7:00 PM CST
| 2009/2010 NBA Season | ||
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| 4-8 (3-2 home) | 7-3 (1-2 road) |
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| November 21st, 2009 | ||
| FedEx Forum |
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| 7:00 PM | ||
| Radio: 620 WTMJ TV: FSN Wisconsin |
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| Probable starters: | ||
| Mike Conley |
PG | Brandon Jennings |
| O.J. Mayo |
SG | Charlie Bell |
| Rudy Gay |
SF | Carlos Delfino |
| Zach Randolph |
PF | Ersan Ilyasova |
| Marc Gasol |
C | Dan Gadzuric |
| (18th) 105.5 - OFFENSE - 104.8 (20th) |
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| (28th) 111.8 - DEFENSE - 99.0 (2nd) |
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(10th) 94.3 - PACE - 94.0 (11th) |
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News/notes after the jump...
We're Going Streaking!
The Grizz have followed a seven game losing streak by winning three straight (Wolves, Clips, @Sixers), though like the Bucks their successes have largely come at the expense of the NBA's lesser lights. The Bucks bring their own modest two game streak into Memphis, having finished their six game homestand just a Dirk Nowitzki OT buzzer-beater away from a perfect six-for-six.
No doubt the Bucks' 7-3 record is an encouraging sign for a team predicted by many to finish at the bottom of the East, but the next week on the road will provide something of a gut-check. Thanks to their home-heavy schedule, the Bucks have had the easiest schedule in the league by at least one measure, though Memphis has only had it slightly worse. As far as road trips go, this one isn't particularly daunting--San Antonio is the only team that's particularly scary on paper, especially with the Hornets missing Chris Paul--but the Bucks
Premium Gasol
Hasheem Thabeet is a long way from being a polished product, but the way Marc Gasol is playing you wonder why the Grizzlies felt the need to spend a second overall pick on a high risk center in the first place. After a very solid first year in the NBA, the soon-to-be 25 year old is putting up 15/11 on 60% shooting from the field while also swatting nearly two shots per game. He'll be a free agent in 2011, so the Grizz will have an interesting decision to make about their center position at that point.
Gasol's beastly abilities down low spell big problems for the Bucks, who are getting used to life without Andrew Bogut at the moment. Gasol is a bear who draws a ton of fouls, which is especially problematic given Dan Gadzuric's problems with fouling and holding his position in the post. Kurt Thomas might not be big, but his savvy as a post defender could earn him lots of minutes tonight, especially given the Grizz also have Zach Randolph's size at the 4.
Run & Gun
Even with a couple big bodies at the 4/5, the Grizzlies have played at a pretty fast pace, which is less surprising when you look at the guys they have at the 1-3 spots. Rudy Gay has upped his game a bit, perhaps not surprising with a new contract at stake. But the young backcourt has been a bit disappointing, with Mike Conley putting up the worst numbers of his career and O.J. Mayo looking solid but mostly unchanged from a good rookie year.
Considering the Bucks will be sans post presence and largely relying on Brandon Jennings to once again be their catalyst, all signs point to the Bucks preferring a fast pace. Lou Williams smoked Conley and Marcus Williams last night to the tune of 31 points, and the Bucks probably need about as much from Jennings tonight. Milwaukee managed to hold off the Bobs while playing at Charlotte's preferred crawl last night, but generally speaking the Bucks don't have the shot-creators right now needed to play at a deliberate pace.
In general it will be interesting to see how much Lionel Hollins goes small. You have to think the Bucks will try to take advantage of Randolph in P&R situations against Jennings/Ilyasova, but the Bucks could have a hell of a time keeping Memphis off the offensive glass when they stay big. The Grizz rank 1st in offensive rebound rate, and while the Bucks ranked 3rd in defensive rebound rate they're missing Bogut and likely Mbah a Moute as well.
Warrick's Return
Hakim Warrick has struggled with his finishing all year, but his willingness take it to the cup and draw fouls was a welcome sight last night. Against his old team he'll be asked to again shoulder a fair bit of the scoring load, and should see his number called plenty. It's tough to imagine Randolph being able to keep up with Warrick's quickness, but it doesn't seem like Warrick has the beef to hang with Randolph on the block either.
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Jennings needs to be on
This would be a very quality win. I know Memphis’ record is not good, but considering the semblance of the team the buck have left, Brandon Jennings has to be lights out to have a chance to win. I’ve afraid Marc Gasol is gonna go off too. Let’s hope the Brandon Jennings show continues, and we can steal this one before Redd gets back on the team.
Not that I love Redd, but at least he can put the ball in the hole.
Agreed
With Redd/Bogut out any win is a great win. And it sure would be nice to have Luc around to defend Gay, but it doesn’t sound like he’s going to be available either.
One interesting thing is how Ridnour has become so crucial with Bogut out. We saw the Bobs really put pressure on Jennings last night, and having Luke come in to handle the ball and offer a secondary perimeter threat was a big key in keeping Brandon from wearing down too much.
by Frank Madden on Nov 21, 2009 5:21 PM CST up reply actions
I suppose it’s convenient to face such a bad defensive team while so many of Milwaukee’s scoring options are out. Charlie Bell has done almost everything but score; it would be nice bonus to get 15-20 from him tonight before Redd comes back.
Bell’s averaging 8.6 pts/40…which is utter garbage. Fortunately his TS% isn’t awful (.529), but if ever we were going to get some volume out of him it’d be now.
The production from the PFs could be the key…with Zach in the game you can’t give him a free pass on the defensive end. He can’t move his feet with either Hak or Ersan and he won’t like guarding Ersan at the three point line. I’d love to see him try to guard Jennings in the P&R.
by Frank Madden on Nov 21, 2009 5:36 PM CST up reply actions
I have all the games this year for the first time in a while
I have the Bucks and the Hawks as my fave teams in the East,I am doing an announcer power rankings and your crew is neck and neck with the GS guys for first. Im going to hang out with ya all in the game treads once in a while.
by southern oregon on Nov 21, 2009 6:04 PM CST reply actions
welcome!
We happen to be big fans of Blazers fans around these parts, so hope to see you around!
Glad to hear other fans enjoying Jim/Jon as well. Great guys.
by Frank Madden on Nov 21, 2009 6:25 PM CST up reply actions
Gotta tell ya Frank
I wasn’t thrilled when Jon called Randolph “Rudolph”.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
Trying to follow the bucks in NC
Anyone know where I can find a stream of the game?
Ack bad news
Ilyasova just picked up his 2nd.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
Delfino and Gadz doing a nice job...
…igniting the Memphis break
by Frank Madden on Nov 21, 2009 7:20 PM CST up reply actions
LOL yep
Memphis isn’t very good, but without Bogut and Redd neither are the Bucks.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
Intereting move to take BJ3 out
Hope it works for Skiles.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
Is that the usual substitution pattern to take him out this early?
I could swear that happened last night too.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
he played most of the 1st last night
But he started hot…Skiles will often take him out and let him rest a bit if he’s missing shots early.
by Frank Madden on Nov 21, 2009 7:27 PM CST up reply actions
Good chance to talk to him too
Skiles can really help BJ3 by talking to him and letting Ridnour run the team a bit. That does help Rookies I think.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
Good shot by Kurt Thomas
He can still hit that. The Bucks need great production from him if they’re going to win without Bogut & Redd in the lineup. (Even with Redd in the lineup I suspect.)
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
If I may say so Alex
There have been some interesting quirks for the Bucks in this early part of the season.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
Both
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
live streaming
anybody know where i can watch a live streaming video of the game? my direct tv is not working well right now so my fsn channel isnt working either
Ben
You should try Atdhe, Channel Surfing and p2p and just dl them. Once you do, you can get links for those sources. I’m watching off broadband so I’m not having a problem.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
Nice runner by Ukic
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
he can be a wily scorer
Not say he’s “good”
by Frank Madden on Nov 21, 2009 7:27 PM CST up reply actions
No problem
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
What an awful shot by Meeks
That was playground ugly.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
Hak needs to go at Zach
fadeaway jumpers don’t count
by Frank Madden on Nov 21, 2009 7:35 PM CST up reply actions
Great I'm getting the Rockets feed tonight
I do not like Bill Worrel or Clyde Drexler very much.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
Yay it's Matt Bullard
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
Umm Ridnour
You’re making Blaine, WA angry with those kind of shots.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
I think the only way the Bucks can win is if BJ3 gets hot
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
Yep
But if you have good offense you can minimize bad defense as well.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
Not having Bogut
isn’t an excuse for turning it over all the time on the perimeter.
Also, Meeks getting fouled in the backcourt while we’re in the penalty is probably our best play.
Nice take by Warrick
McGlocklin is right. 4 points in the paint is something that needs to change.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
Big 3 by Bell
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
At least the Bucks are only down 5 at half
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
BJ3 with the elbow jumper
Gotta love this kid.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
That's an interesting point about BJ3
That he’s better going right with his jumper than going to his left. That makes sense.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
BJ3 another one......
This kid is a lot of things, but one of them is amazing.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
Kurt Thomas is cross-eyed
I don’t know why I’m pointing that out.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
Bucks up 2 after 3 qtrs
Not sure how this isn’t good news for them.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
Bell for 3!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
That block by Mayo was a good call
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
Happens to every rookie
I see it allt he time with Tyreke Evans. B Money will get his eventually Zora.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
B Money went up & hit 2 FT's
Gotta love this kid. Tonight isn’t a flashy game, but he’s still coming to play. That’s why I like him.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
Cmon boys run the clock
It’s a 2 possession game. :)
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
B Money!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
I'm not sure what's more impressive
B-Money’s late heroics after a so-so game, or the fact that this whole Bucks team is scrapping. The latter I think, but the former ain’t so bad either.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
Great game by Ilyasova
I didn’t realize he had a double double tonight. Nice effort by Kurt Thomas too.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
What an awful sequence that was
Sigh.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
big FT's by B Money
Gotta love this kid. (Yet again.)
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
Dammit Bucks!
Just end this game already.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
B money for 2 FT's to ice the game
Please hit them B Money Thanks.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
Yay!
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
Bucks win!
Yay!
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
Indeed indeed indeed
Now to watch the Kings-Rockets exciting finish.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
Brandon Jennings
He’s kinda good, I’ve heard.
I support the Tornado Release ... and Young Bucks.
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