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Game Thread 20: Celtics/Bucks

Milwaukee Bucks at Boston Celtics, Dec 8, 2009 6:30 PM CST


2009/2010 NBA Season

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16-4 (7-3 home)
9-10 (2-7 road)
December 8, 2009
TD Garden
6:30 PM CT
Radio: 620 WTMJ TV: FSN Wisconsin
Probable starters:
Rajon Rondo PG Brandon Jennings
Ray Allen
SG Carlos Delfino
Paul Pierce
SF Luc Mbah a Moute
Kevin Garnett
PF Ersan Ilyasova
Kendrick Perkins
C Andrew Bogut

109.4 (8th)  - OFFENSE - 103.4 (24th)
99.1 (1st)  - DEFENSE - 103.5 (8th)

90.9 (26th)   - PACE -  94.0 (9th)



Linkage:

CelticsBlog / Celtics Hub / Red's Army / Loy's Place / Bucks.com Gameday

News/analysis after the jump...

Star-divide

Celtic streak.  The Bucks' home loss to the Cavs on Sunday was bad, but the scheduling gods aren't doing them any favors.  Tonight they'll be in Boston facing a Celtics team that's won seven straight and now sits tied atop the East standings with the Magic.  Just as impressive is where the wins are coming--away from home.  Five wins in the current streak came away from the Garden, and Boston is now a league-best 9-1 on the road.  So, uh, could it actually be a good thing to be playing them in Boston?  

Considering the Bucks are just 2-7 on the road and the Celtics are just now rounding into form, I'm going to go with the obvious "no."  I'll be at the game tonight, though as usual when I've seen the Bucks play in Boston the past few years I'm starting to wonder why I feel the need to see a likely Bucks loss up close.  I guess I can't help myself.  Weather permitting (a big if at this point) I'll be back in Milwaukee for the Raps game tomorrow, so a split is probably the most reasonable outcome.

Star Power.  It's no secret how the Celtics do it: suffocating defense (the best defensive efficiency in the league by a wide margin) combined with a pretty good offense (8th in efficiency). They're of course speaheaded by the Big Three of KG, Pierce and Ray Allen, but Rajon Rondo's emergence over the past couple years makes it more like a Big Four.

Garnett has scored 20+ in three of the last four, including some crazy shooting nights: 11/12 in Miami and 10/11 in Oklahoma City.  His rebounding is down (15.3%, his worst rate insce 97/98) and he's been without a blocked shot in 12 of the past 13 games, but we all know his impact goes beyond the box score.  The only upside is that he doesn't really draw fouls, which means Ersan Ilyasova might be able to stay on the floor for a change.

The C's also boat one of the league's most recognizable sixth men in Rasheed Wallace, though his numbers are fairly mediocre (9.2 ppg, 3.9 rpg, .379/.302/.708 shooting).  At Celtics.com, Marc D'Amico writes Wallace is playing more like a big man of late:

One of the moves Rivers seems to be liking is using Rasheed Wallace as the center nearly all of the time he's on the floor. Previously, he has been playing power forward with the second unit, as Shelden Williams held down the center spot. But Wallace has been playing much more effectively around the basket and taking less threes over the past four contests, making him a more useful weapon at center.

Brogut.  The supporting work of Luke Ridnour, Ilyasova and Hakim Warrick is nice when they can get it, but at the end of the day the Bucks need production from Andrew Bogut and Brandon Jennings to be effective.  Bogut's recent funk continued on Sunday, shooting below 50% for the third straight game and once again failing to reach double digits in either points or rebounds.  What's strange is that Bogut's struggles came after an eight game stretch where he never shot under 50% or scored less than 13.  Not surprisingly, his win/loss splits are black and white: 18.6 ppg, 10.4 rpg, 57.6% shooting in wins compared to just 10.0 ppg, 7.5 rpg, and 42.0% shooting.  It's not a PT thing either--he's played 34 mpg in losses and 32 mpg in wins.

As for Jennings, he had a bit more success in the scoring department against the Cavs (24 pts, 9/22 shooting) but is still adjusting to the increased attention he's gotten since his monster start to the season.  The C's have one of the league's toughest defensive PGs in Rondo, not to mention perhaps the best big P&R defender in recent memory in Garnett, so Jennings has his work cut out for him.

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My flight's already been cancelled

Supposed to fly to Milwaukee tomorrow at 11 am…now needing to rebook. Hopefully the Bucks have better luck getting from Boston to Milwaukee…

by Frank Madden on Dec 8, 2009 5:29 PM CST reply actions  

Nice interior passing, Bucks.

by Alex Boeder on Dec 8, 2009 6:58 PM CST reply actions  

Prediction: If Ridnour doesn’t move by the trade deadline, he’s going to get a silly contract from the Bucks.

by MadTown Hoops on Dec 8, 2009 7:32 PM CST reply actions  

Off work

how we lookin? I was going to go to the UNI-Iowa game, but too much snow for me to drag my lazy ass to the McLeod Center….

"Four goals in sixteen shots... I'm really tired of the...............25% rule." -John Tortorella

by esylvester6 on Dec 8, 2009 8:12 PM CST reply actions  

Backbreaker. Allen, Garnett, Wallace, House, Pierce all veterans and wily … Skiles is T’ed, Ridnour hurt. This is bad.

by MadTown Hoops on Dec 8, 2009 8:15 PM CST reply actions  

what did skiles do?

"Four goals in sixteen shots... I'm really tired of the...............25% rule." -John Tortorella

by esylvester6 on Dec 8, 2009 8:16 PM CST up reply actions  

Ugh

Did not need to see that happen to Ridnour, or anyone.

by TheJay on Dec 8, 2009 8:19 PM CST reply actions  

TheJay

Can I demand you come up with obscure basketball stats over here?

by Zorakathura on Dec 8, 2009 8:28 PM CST up reply actions  

hard foul on rondo

"Four goals in sixteen shots... I'm really tired of the...............25% rule." -John Tortorella

by esylvester6 on Dec 8, 2009 8:27 PM CST reply actions  

Is there still any doubt that Warrick is Danny G and Tim Thomas rolled into one?

by upnorthfan on Dec 8, 2009 8:33 PM CST reply actions  

Wow, that's harsh!

We’re not paying him $6 mil, or whatever absurd amount Thomas made, are we?

by kgaul on Dec 8, 2009 8:37 PM CST up reply actions  

I am talking talent wise.

by upnorthfan on Dec 8, 2009 8:43 PM CST reply actions  

Warrick draws fouls, which is a valuable skill virtually no Buck possesses. He’s quick, but often too skinny to make a major impact as a four.

by MadTown Hoops on Dec 8, 2009 9:10 PM CST up reply actions  

Warrick is dumb.

Too many dunb passes, he mishandles the ball way to often. He’ll tease you just like TT did. He is very athletic but his BB IQ is low, ala well, TT and DG.

by upnorthfan on Dec 8, 2009 9:13 PM CST up reply actions  

Warrick

I’ve seen him be very effective against lesser competition and passive defense. He’s got quickness and knows the path to a dunk or layup. But I think his ability to work goes down inversely to the square of the defense played against him. That’s gobbledygook for saying that good defense stuffs him and he doesn’t have much of a response.

And since he seems off on his own little island, he doesn’t anticipate, make the timely play, or help on defense. He has made some attacking passes for assists. But I don’t know if that means eh sees the court, or just sees the occasional pass.

Used to hope Skiles could bring him along, educate him. But maybe he is what he is.

by unklchuk on Dec 9, 2009 2:01 PM CST reply actions  

"But maybe he is what he is."

I’d agree with that…I just think his lack of strength (which contributes to mediocre rebounding and poor defense) inherently limits him against stronger PFs. And lord knows he’s not a SF, no matter what some of the preseason banter may have suggested.

Still, he has value on this team simply because we don’t have anyone else capable of attacking the rim—hence he leads the team in FTA despite playing 24 mpg. I feel like he’s often gotten shafted by refs this year as well or it might be higher. But he also takes too many jumpers (.376 eFG% on jump shots), and the way he angles his body back on every shot makes every one look more difficult, too. I’m guessing his form isn’t changing at this stage, but his shot selection could be better.

So basically you have a solid sixth man, making sixth man dollars. I’m OK with it.

by Frank Madden on Dec 9, 2009 4:32 PM CST up reply actions  

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