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Game Thread 21: Raptors/Bucks

Toronto Raptors at Milwaukee Bucks, Dec 9, 2009 7:00 PM CST


2009/2010 NBA Season

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vs.
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10-13 (4-9 road)
9-11 (7-3 home)
December 9, 2009
Bradley Center
7:00 PM CT
Radio: 620 WTMJ TV: FSN Wisconsin
Probable starters:
Jarrett Jack PG Brandon Jennings
DeMar DeRozan
SG Carlos Delfino
Hedo Turkoglu
SF Luc Mbah a Moute
Chris Bosh
PF Ersan Ilyasova
Andrea Bargnani
C Andrew Bogut

112.2 (4th)  - OFFENSE - 103.1 (24th)
115.5 (30th)  - DEFENSE - 103.7 (8th)

93.4 (11th)   - PACE -  93.8 (9th)


Linkage

RaptorsHQ / The Score / Raptors Republic / Dino Nation

News/notes after the jump...

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Opposites attract.  The Bucks will go from facing the league's best defense in Boston to the worst tonight.  And it's not even close--the Raptors amazingly give up 3.9 more pts/100 possessions than the second-worst Sixers.  But while that will be a welcome sight, the Raptors' penchant for drawing fouls certainly won't be.  While the Bucks rank dead last in both own and opponent free throw rate, Toronto gets to the line at the third highest rate.  But befitting of a poor defensive club, they also foul at a fairly high rate themselves.  The Raptors also have the second-lowest turnover rate in the league, while the Bucks are third in forcing turnovers.

No way, JoseJose Calderon did not travel with the team to Milwaukee, meaning Jarrett Jack will get a second straight start at the point.  Statistically, Jack has been about what you would have expected when he signed his rather inflated four year, $20 million deal: enough threes and free throws to score with solid efficiency (54.5% TS), high turnover rate (13.4%), and the ability to occasionally score in bunches.  Minnesota saw the best of him last night, as he went off for 17 points (11/12 ft), eight assists and seven boards.  And in case you were wondering, those free throws are the part that worry me most.

 

Bosh & Bargs & Bogues.  I've always loved Chris Bosh's game, and this year the dude's taking it to another level: 24.3 ppg (on 57.1% TS), a career-high 12.3 rpg, a miniscule 7.2% turnover rate.  And while I've never been a fan of Andrea Bargnani's game, I'll freely admit he's also putting together his best year as a pro.  Aside from upping his scoring average modestly (16.7 ppg), Bargs' rebound rate (11.1%) has now improved beyond his usual "solid small forward" level to darn near "elite small forward" level.  Not bad!  Well, actually, still very bad for a 7-footer, but...better. 

Still, even with both guys playing well you wonder whether it's a pairing that makes sense in the long term.  The Raps have already committed to Bargnani long-term (five year, $50 million extension last summer), and with Hedo Turkoglu and Jack taking up another $70 million on their long-term deals, there's not much room for the Raptors to maneuver if they change their mind.  Bosh will be an unrestricted free agent this summer, so his opinion is the most important one at this point, and it's far from clear whether he'll re-up or seek greener pastures elsewhere.

As for this game, the Bucks will no doubt hope to get Bogut going in the post against the weaker Raptor defenders, while the Raps will try to use their mobility to get Bogut out of his comfort zone on defense.  I wouldn't be surprised if Ilyasova ended up chasing Bargnani around the perimeter a bit with Bogut trying to contain Bosh in the high post (read: conceding the mid-range jump shot).  On the bench, Rasho Nesterovic has gotten spotty minutes this season but would be the obvious choice if Jay Triano needs somebody to stand up to Bogut on the block.

Turkish Delight.  They probably won't guard each other too much, but Hedo Turkoglu and Ersan Ilyasova will likely be attracting plenty of eyeballs in Turkey when they face off for the first time this season.   The interesting part is that Ilyasova's probably been the more useful player so far this year--despite earning less than a quarter of his more famous 30-year old countrymen.   While Turkoglu has the better TS% (57.1 vs. 54.0%) and assist rate, Ilyasova's both scoring and rebounding at a much higher rate (19.1 pts, 12.1 rebs/40 for Ilyasova vs. 16.5 and 5.8 for Turkoglu).  Granted, I'd feel a lot better watching Hedo take shots late in games than anyone on the Bucks, but let's focus on the bright side, please.

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Ridnour

I still haven’t found any updates on the injury…he was on the Bucks’ bench with a wrap just below his left elbow in the fourth quarter, so hopefully it’s not serious. But given the lack of info it’s certainly possible that Ukic handles the backup PG duties tonight against his former team.

by Frank Madden on Dec 9, 2009 4:54 PM CST reply actions  

BJ3

Looks like Brandon is feeling it…

by AiRPoD on Dec 9, 2009 7:41 PM CST reply actions  

hahaa. they can’t miss in the 4th quarter.

by AiRPoD on Dec 9, 2009 9:17 PM CST reply actions  

Robo Ridnour

It’s damn near comical how well he’s played this year….and now Ukic goes nuts too? I think Skiles could have suited up and dropped 15/5 against the Raps tonight.

by Frank Madden on Dec 9, 2009 10:34 PM CST up reply actions  

Delfino's block

I’m not sure it’s possible to pack someone more emphatically than this…and the fact that it’s against a guy expected to be in the dunk contest makes it that much better.

http://raptorsplayer.com/delfino-blocks-demar-raptors-vs-bucks-dec-9-09

by Frank Madden on Dec 9, 2009 10:35 PM CST reply actions  

The Bucks actually held on and won

Brandon Jennings was effective and efficient tonight, scoring 22 points on 14 field goal attempts. He also had 6 assists and only ONE turnover. This is the Jennings that the Bucks need to see more of.

Andrew Bogut also had just one turnover, a huge improvement from the 7 turnovers that he committed in the previous game.

Ridnour seems very fine: 15 points in under 15 minutes.

by LibNat on Dec 9, 2009 11:33 PM CST reply actions  

Ridnour has been awesome

Just wish there is a way to give him alot of minutes without holding down Jennings….and how bad did Jennings hurt his knee?

BTW, If he wasnt a free agent next year I doubt Ridnour plays. That looked gruesome yesterday, and they put a brace on it and he plays through it? And plays exceptionally well? At least we know Ridnour can fill in for Jennings if he misses some time with his knee injury.

Ukic getting PT is a common Skiles coaching move-let a guy play against a team that the player will have motiviation to play. The Raptors traded him away and I’m sure Ukic was excited to stick it to them….or excited to just actually play. I wouldn’t read into the Ukic PT more than that

by Bellringer21 on Dec 9, 2009 11:53 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Bell was out with a sore back too

That was also a factor in Roko getting so much burn…but yeah, wouldn’t surprise me one bit if Skiles wanted to give him a chance against his old club.

by Frank Madden on Dec 9, 2009 11:58 PM CST up reply actions  

Love the Twitter age

Anytime I can hear directly from the young guy, I’m in awe. Imagine Max McGee’s tweets prior to the Super Bowl.

Chicks Dig The Long Ball.

by ILuvDaBush on Dec 10, 2009 12:35 AM CST up reply actions  

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