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Wednesday Notes: Ilyasova stars, Alexander works, De Colo and Adrien visit, draft rumormill

Hey, it's real basketball: Ilyasova leads Barca to a 2-1 edge over Tau

  • ACB.com: Ilyasova stars as Barcelona down TAU Ceramica.  The Spanish best-of-five finals continued with Barcelona seizing a 2-1 edge this afternoon in Catalonia.  And after seeing fairly limited PT of late, former and possible future Buck Ersan Ilyasova got back to his best with 19 points (7/11 fg), nine boards and three assists in 25 minutes.  Check out the game highlights above.  Barcelona can clinch the Spanish title on Thursday afternoon at home. Also, Tom Enlund mentioned the other day that the Bucks are expected to make Ilyasova a qualifying offer, but don't read much into it.  Ilyasova's QO is dirt cheap (about a mil) and he'd never take it, so it's purely meant to prevent Ilasyova from becoming an unrestricted free agent.  The Bucks have had to make the QO the previous two summers as well, so it doesn't mean his return is suddenly imminent.  Let's wait to see what happens with the draft and the Sessions situation first.
  • BUCKS.com: De Colo, Adrien headline potential second rounders.  The Bucks didn't have any big names in on Monday, but two guys with definite second round potential did make it to the Cousins Center--UConn mini-bruiser Jeff Adrien and French point guard Nando De Colo.  Adrien you might know from his four years in the Big East, where he was a poor (and skinny) man's DeJuan Blair--the same height, wingspan and standing reach...except 40 pounds lighter.  If the Bucks go small at #10 then Adrien could certainly make some sense at 41.  Meanwhile, De Colo made his second visit in two weeks, hot on the heels of an excellent showing at the Reebok Eurocamp in Italy.  Dave Babcock, what say ye?

    "He was here a couple of weeks ago. We liked him, but he didn’t have a chance to play against a point guard in that workout. So we brought him in today to go against McAlarney. Nando’s a good player. He’s another potential second round guy, so he’s got a chance."

    I don't know anything about De Colo aside from the Jonathan Givony and Chad Ford scouting reports, but those seem pretty promising.  Both came away very impressed by De Colo's performance in Italy, and we can only assume the Bucks have a more than passing interest given they've had him in twice now.  Ford offers the dirt:

    Scouts love his size and swagger, and he really shot the lights out during camp, making 65 percent from the field. While those who watched him in France all year worry he lacks the lateral quickness to defend the quicker guards in the NBA, he seemed to hold his own against Mills and, to a lesser extent, Beverley. De Colo was the other guy who looked like he could be a legit late-first-round prospect, with a few caveats. First, the word in the camp was that De Colo might have jumped the gun and signed a pro contract in Europe, which could keep him out of the league for a few years. Second, several GMs wanted to go back and take a closer look at his game film from this year. De Colo was up and down all year, and they want to get a better look at how his season went.

    But overall, no one helped his stock more than De Colo. He went from a borderline second-round prospect to getting some legit buzz in the late-first to early-second rounds.
  • Bucksketball: Workout Reports.  Jeremy has a nice compilation of the notable guys who have worked out in Milwaukee.

  • Enlund: What about the second round?  There's nothing more enjoyable than overanalyzing Dave Babcock's draft commentary, so with that in mind here's today's soundbite:

    "A couple weeks ago I would have said that I don’t know if there’s going to be a guy there we like, but I’m starting to feel better now that there might be," said Bucks director of player personnel Dave Babcock. "Just from what we’ve seen and then a couple of the guys that stayed in the draft will affect it. And, what we’ve seen in guys that we may not have been as high on earlier, we feel better about now."

    So the Bucks are starting to like one of the guys they worked out?  Off the top of my head, Pendergraph, De Colo, Carroll, McNeal, and Adrien come to mind as the obvious candidates.  Which means they're probably picking some random dude I've never heard of.  

  • Gardner: Alexander back in the gym.  Joe Alexander's 08/09?  Disappointing.  No one has debated that including, Alexander himself.  The good news?  The dude has always thrived when people write him off.

    "Joe walked in the gym and the first thing I noticed was how much bigger and stronger he had gotten," said Hammond. "We know that about Joe. We know that Joe is not going to sit and accept his fate. It doesn’t matter if it was something that happened extraordinarily well for him, he’s not going to accept that. That’s not good enough for him. Or, maybe in this case, where he looks back on the season and says I’m not happy with the result and you know when he comes back, he’s going to have changed."
    I asked Scott Skiles in Vegas last summer if they specifically wanted Alexander to bulk up to play PF, but he said no--it wasn't the kind of thing he believed in doing. So maybe Alexander's taken it upon himself to again hit the weights or maybe Hammond is pumping Alexander up a bit in case they decide to move him this summer.  Personally I hope he sticks around.  His value right now is so low that he's not going to bring back much in a trade, yet he's hardly a lost cause.  He's not going to be a star, but the tools and work ethic are there to be a contributor.  At least that's what I'm telling myself.

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I want so badly for Alexander to do well, among other things it would reassure me that Hammond knows what he’s doing (draft-wise). Also it’s easy to root for someone who so clearly tries, all the time. But I’ve watched him play. He has athleticism, and occasionally impresses, but he’s so behind IQ-wise, it’s not funny. Maybe he gets bigger, but he’s really going to have to take another step before I can expect him to be anything worth watching. He will never be a PF, he just doesn’t have it. He’s a backup small forward, pure and simple, that’s what he is.

by MadTown Hoops on Jun 17, 2009 4:38 AM CDT reply actions  

Yeah, I’m really rooting for the guy, and that’s what made last year even more frustrating. I think at this point he’s a backup combo forward, and I don’t know if either position is an obvious long-term spot right now. His perimeter defense and small-guy skills are an issue at SF, but it’s also tough to be a PF when you don’t know how to box out.

What I like about him at the 4 is that he’s going to be quicker than pretty much any PF and he can also space the floor with his outside shot. And while he’s not tall for the position, he’s strong enough that he shouldn’t get manhandled by most guys (though it’s not to say he’s a refined post defender given he fouls like crazy). For what it’s worth, his 82games splits were generally better offensively and defensively at the 4, but I agree it’s not a perfect match.

by Frank Madden on Jun 17, 2009 11:03 AM CDT up reply actions  

De Colo is an awesome player

To know more about De Colo’s game, you can watch the Eurochallenge final at this address:
http://www.fibaeurope.com/cid_KNce8jInH7Qj1EsyH5rjn2.compID_BYg5Rb55Jw-G5I3MZ6JB01.html#
Click on Live Webcast
It is very exciting game. And a good representation of De Colo’s game for the last few years in Cholet.

by Eti on Jun 17, 2009 7:18 AM CDT reply actions  

Thanks Eti

Beaubois and De Colo are both very interesting players who I’d be pleased to see the Bucks take if they’re still around at 41. Beaubois obviously has tremendous athletic tools, but it seems De Colo has a more developed PG game. I’d be curious if you have any thoughts on comparing the two.

by Frank Madden on Jun 17, 2009 8:22 AM CDT up reply actions  

I am not the best person to compare them, because I live in the US now, but my family have seen all their games for the past years in Cholet, so I have only saw them playing when I would visit or on TV.
What I know though is that De Colo was Cholet’s leader for the last 2 years, elected French MVP last year. While Beaubois only revealed his talent on the 2 half of the last season. So Beaubois has a huge potential, but De Colo is much mature and has already shown what is capable of.
De Colo played for the French National Team, with Tony Parker, last summer., and for his first official game, he scored 28 points at 100% against Belgium, leaving Parker with “just” 19 points :-).
Both of them played mostly as a SG, more than as a PG, this past season, so we will see how they adapt to a PG position.
Beaubois seems fragile to me, he had a lot of injuries. Maybe, it is because he has not finished his growth yet, but If I was a recruiter, I would definitely take De Colo first. Anyway, they are both excellent players, and I can’t believe that the mocks only see them as 2nd rounders. Did you watch the game? What did you think about it?

by Eti on Jun 24, 2009 11:07 AM CDT up reply actions  

Hey Frank, here is a video specific to Ersan’s game yesterday that was put on the ACB site today

http://acbtv.acb.com/video/1941

by oshmeehan on Jun 17, 2009 7:31 PM CDT reply actions  

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