Game Thread: Bucks/Cavs
by Frank Madden on Jul 12, 2009 2:44 PM CDT
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| 0-1 | 1-0 |
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| July 12, 2009 - 9:00 PM CT |
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| Cox Pavilion, Las Vegas |
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| TV: NBA.com Stream | ||
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Probable starters: |
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| Jamont Gordon |
PG | Brandon Jennings |
| Tarence Kinsey |
SG | Jodie Meeks |
| Danny Green |
SF | Luc Richard Mbah a Moute |
| Darnell Jackson |
PF | Joe Alexander |
| David Harrison |
C | Amir Johnson |
- Summer slugfest. They're having UFC 100 here in Vegas this weekend, so it's perhaps fitting that the Bucks and Mavs slugged it out Friday night on the court. An ugly game, but ugly basketball is better than no basketball, right? Check out my recap, my liveblog, video highlights (above), and some Brandon Jennings audio.
Like Friday, I'll be sitting courtside and will be liveblogging the entire day's action in the comments as it happens. The Spurs and Hornets kick things off at 3 pm CT. - Joe and Luc. The Green/Mbah a Moute matchup could be an interesting one--both guys were versatile role players on Final Four teams (Green winning a title last year) and Green scored 16 on 7 shots in yesterday's loss to the Lakers. Meanwhile, Joe Alexander and Amir Johnson could have their hands full up front with the 6'9", 253 pound Darnell Jackson and the 7-foot, 280 pound David Harrison.
But as much as the Bucks might be featuring the two sophomore forwards together in Vegas, John Hammond says it's probably not be something we'll see a lot of in November."I think it's purely a summer league thing. I don't now that you would see us necessarily putting a team on the floor with those guys together getting extended minutes. But they both can play those positions. Luc might be a better offensive four man, just because he can do things at the four position that you need that player to do, but he's probably even better defensively at the three spot.
"Joe on the other hand is probably better offensively at the three spot, because he can get a shot for himself and he's going to get to the free throw line. Joe had kind of an ugly box score last night, but he missed three or four looks right near the basket. If he finishes a few of those and goes 8/18 then his line looks a lot different, and out of those 18 shots he took maybe three bad shots. But his ability to create shots for himself makes him an asset to us."
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Jonny Flynn looks microscopic out there in the warmup. Corey Brewer just looks excited to be back on a basketball court.
Kevin Love is wearing a Brooklyn Dodgers jersey on the bench, talking to former UCLA teammate Darren Collison who just had a very nice game for the Hornets.
let's hope today's game
is a bit easier on the eyes than Friday
"I'm so clean, cats think I sip Ajax."
I’ll enjoy my red-eye home a lot more if Jennings or Alexander put together a nice line.
by Frank Madden on Jul 12, 2009 6:50 PM CDT up reply actions
and guess what?
David Thorpe is (presumably) sticking around. Who knew?
"I'm so clean, cats think I sip Ajax."
Warriors fan here..
I really like Jennings even though he’s not a great shooter. He really seems to be a team player and looks eager to make plays for teammates. He also looks feisty on defense— the kind of player no one wants to play against.
Jennings has a pull-up partially blocked (his second missed jumper) but steals it playing free safety.
ooohh
that’s better; I thought he airballed it
by WeStillBelieve on Jul 12, 2009 9:10 PM CDT up reply actions
I didn’t have the best angle for it, but I just checked the box and nobody got credit for it…so maybe I was being charitable
by Frank Madden on Jul 12, 2009 9:13 PM CDT up reply actions
Thorpe:
“He [Jennings] does not shoot the ball. He flings it.”
What does it look like to you, Frank?
"I'm so clean, cats think I sip Ajax."
It definitely looks like a fling
I cringe at his jumper. He can get to the rim at will, i don’t get why he doesn’t attack more often
I’ve watched Redd for so long that flinging doesn’t bother me too much :)
His tendency to kick out his legs and fade away is what bothers me more.
Btw, he just flung a three in off the dribble
by Frank Madden on Jul 12, 2009 9:16 PM CDT up reply actions
yeah the leg kick bugs me too. It’s like he forces himself to be offbalance when he shoots. If a coach helps him correct that shot, he should be pretty amazing. Another great pass right there but the teammate couldn’t get him the assist
by WeStillBelieve on Jul 12, 2009 9:17 PM CDT up reply actions
it's all troubling
I mean, Thorpe is one of the best out there at training players: if he see’s something, he knows if it’s right or wrong AND how to fix it.
"I'm so clean, cats think I sip Ajax."
Another Thorpe-ism
“I just don’t think Joe Alexander has anything figured out yet.” Accurate, or more anti-Buck bias?
"I'm so clean, cats think I sip Ajax."
He looks a little lost out there
He had a VERY easy rebound (he was all alone) but he decided to tip to to..no one, and the Cavs got a 2nd chance
by WeStillBelieve on Jul 12, 2009 9:19 PM CDT up reply actions
And he just missed a dunk
but there was a very light foul. He should have made it
by WeStillBelieve on Jul 12, 2009 9:22 PM CDT up reply actions
Chris Richard has hit a couple jumpers this weekend—he must be dumb as rocks or something because with his size and a tiny bit of touch you’d think he could catch on somewhere.
he should be a rebounding machine with that body…but he’s a below average rebounder. I think his lack of hustle and poor IQ keeps him from making a team
by WeStillBelieve on Jul 12, 2009 9:25 PM CDT up reply actions
Three 1st quarter steals for Jennings
He’ll probably be a big thief all season..maybe 3+ steals/game
I was about to say he probably wouldn’t play enough…but 1.5 spg is certainly within reach.
by Frank Madden on Jul 12, 2009 9:28 PM CDT up reply actions
24-23 Bucks after one
Jennings gets his third steal as the Cavs go for the final shot. His pull up from the left is off, and as usual he kicks his legs out unnecessarily. But Amir puts in the slop as time expires.
I think Jennings will get a bunch of assists
when he’s playing with the real Bucks with real NBA players who can actually hit a shot. He gets his teammates pretty good looks
Alexander
should have got Jennings the easy assist there, but he decided to double-clutch the layup for some reason and missed it by about a foot…luckily he got a whistle (SL refs blow a whistle 5 times a minute)
another missed layup
that would have given Jennings an assist. Poor guy, his stats are much worse than he’s actually playing
A Bucks coach
needs to correct his form. The defenders are giving him 6+ feet to shoot and he isn’t hitting them. He needs to be able to hit jumpers to keep the defenders honest
by WeStillBelieve on Jul 12, 2009 9:34 PM CDT up reply actions
and
he should spend a majority of his practice time working on his jumper
by WeStillBelieve on Jul 12, 2009 9:34 PM CDT up reply actions
Jennings looks good running the offense
his only drawback is the jumper
I’d like to see him look to drive and draw contact more often. Seems content to settle for his inaccurate jumper.
by Frank Madden on Jul 12, 2009 9:40 PM CDT up reply actions
the good thing is
he isn’t forcing his jumper. He only takes it when the defender gives it to him, which is a good thing. He is great at getting to the hoop; i’m not sure why he isn’t even trying it
by WeStillBelieve on Jul 12, 2009 9:41 PM CDT up reply actions
Thorpe leaves early again
“I’m done. Tweeted out. Done and done. Back at it tomorrow!!!”
I suppose (almost) half a game is better than nothing.
"I'm so clean, cats think I sip Ajax."
It’s a rough life watching basketball all day long
by Frank Madden on Jul 12, 2009 9:48 PM CDT up reply actions
Mitchell,
if you want to watch the game online for free, you can watch it here:
http://atdhe.net/7217/watch-vegas-summer-league-cleveland-vs-milwaukee
by WeStillBelieve on Jul 12, 2009 9:49 PM CDT up reply actions
You are five different kinds of fantastic for providing this
I’m sure this isn’t strictly legal, but then again, I don’t strictly care. Thanks!
You know what’d be even more awesome? Finding a way to post this for the other 4 games.
"I'm so clean, cats think I sip Ajax."
I've watched all the games on here
they post each day’s schedule on that day, so check back the day of the next game and i’m pretty sure it’ll be on there!
by WeStillBelieve on Jul 12, 2009 9:52 PM CDT up reply actions
This is more Jennings’ pace—pushing it all the time. He gets a lay-in off the Cavs turnover and then a no-call as he tries to draw contact on the next possession. Definitely a foul by Vegas standards.
Next time down he finds Meeks open for another open mid-range shot. Looking very Rip Hamilton-esque with those.
Meeks
reminds me of Eric Gordon. If he gets better from behind the arc, he’ll be just like him. A spark plug
by WeStillBelieve on Jul 12, 2009 9:47 PM CDT up reply actions
I think Gordon has a better handle, bit more explosive.
by Frank Madden on Jul 12, 2009 9:48 PM CDT up reply actions
The Bucks game thread is so dead
The Warriors games have like 20+ people posting and thousands of posts by the end of the game. It must be the time difference
Nah, it’s the GSOM difference :) We’ve never put much emphasis on game threads but hopefully we can get it going over here.
by Frank Madden on Jul 12, 2009 9:52 PM CDT up reply actions
Another 3 flung in!
He needs to keep shooting. It’s just summer league and it’s a good place to practice the jumper in real games
it's halftime now so that link is just showing the banner
but the game will show up when it starts back up
41-39 Cavs at half
Luc quietly with 9/6 on 3/3 fg.
Jennings has certainly been as advertised…no consistency on his shot but flying all over the court creating opportunities. I can dig it.
ok, i've only watched the first few minutes of the second half
but I
LOVE
Brandon Jennings.
"I'm so clean, cats think I sip Ajax."
I like that the hotter he gets on offense, the more harassing he gets on defense.
by Frank Madden on Jul 12, 2009 10:04 PM CDT up reply actions
ugh, bad shot
but whatever, it went in
can you say streaky???
"I'm so clean, cats think I sip Ajax."
the NBA.com guys
just compared Brandon Jennings’ ego to Gary Payton. I’m torn on how i feel about that
"I'm so clean, cats think I sip Ajax."
can you tell why Jennings got subbed out?
too much showboating? looking for his own shots at the expense of running the offense? or did he get hurt?
"I'm so clean, cats think I sip Ajax."
20 pts, 5 assists and 4 steals...not bad
He’s having a much better game than Stephen Curry had
by WeStillBelieve on Jul 12, 2009 10:10 PM CDT reply actions
It seems all these rooks have needed one game to get their bearings. Curry, Evans, Beaubois, etc
by Frank Madden on Jul 12, 2009 10:11 PM CDT up reply actions
Marcus Williams
had 17 assists today for the Grizzlies in 28 minutes…crazy
by WeStillBelieve on Jul 12, 2009 10:12 PM CDT up reply actions
Amir with a couple aggressive takes to the hoop…and more points than fouls (7>6)!
And the Bucks are up 18.
Jennings' 8 points and sweet assist to Meeks
to start the 2nd half are largely responsible for that, methinks
"I'm so clean, cats think I sip Ajax."
The game gets boring
when Jennings goes to the bench
by WeStillBelieve on Jul 12, 2009 10:15 PM CDT reply actions
LOL
Who is #7 for the Bucks? He looks about 45
by WeStillBelieve on Jul 12, 2009 10:19 PM CDT reply actions
he looks like
the team just picked a random old white guy from the crowd to come play
by WeStillBelieve on Jul 12, 2009 10:20 PM CDT up reply actions
i was just going to say
when those two run the break, consider it in the bank. Either Jennings will take it to the rim himself or Meeks will find a spot he likes and drain the shot. I love it.
"I'm so clean, cats think I sip Ajax."
That jumper by Alexander
looked pretty good
by WeStillBelieve on Jul 12, 2009 10:26 PM CDT reply actions
About time. First three he’s even tried so far.
by Frank Madden on Jul 12, 2009 10:27 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't see many Bucks games
but does he look way bigger? He looks way bigger than his WVU days
by WeStillBelieve on Jul 12, 2009 10:28 PM CDT up reply actions
it hasn't helped him make dunks
i can definitely tell he put on weight (at least from two years ago)
by WeStillBelieve on Jul 12, 2009 10:31 PM CDT up reply actions
Alexander is hogging
he’s not good enough to be a hog, though
by WeStillBelieve on Jul 12, 2009 10:34 PM CDT reply actions
He's 50% from byond the arc, which isn't bad
but you guys should hope he doesn’t attempt 8 threes in many regular season games
by WeStillBelieve on Jul 12, 2009 10:37 PM CDT reply actions
I don't understand why
point guards (or the best passers) don’t make the inbounds pass
by WeStillBelieve on Jul 12, 2009 10:43 PM CDT reply actions
Jennings needs to get his FREAKING HANDS UP on defense. He’s just hopping back and forth, “trying” to stay in front of his man. He’s a dynamic offensive talent, but if he’s not even gonna try consistently on D, he won’t get any burn.
"I'm so clean, cats think I sip Ajax."
if by fix that
you mean Skiles has to constantly ream Jennings in practice, bench him in games, keep him from starting, and generally just make his life miserable until he gets with the program,
then yes.
"I'm so clean, cats think I sip Ajax."
80-69 final
Jennings 23 points, 8 assists, 5 steals. Still just 7/18 but it was encouraging. Joe Alexander—not so encouraging.
it was almost like he reverted to
last-season’s Joe. Where’s the kid who learned from last year’s mistakes?
"I'm so clean, cats think I sip Ajax."
my biggest fear from these two games?
Amir Johnson will keep trying to play basketball as if he were trying out for football.
"I'm so clean, cats think I sip Ajax."
Good Solid Defense
Another game of good solid defense and hustle.
Jennings looked pretty sweet.
Meeks continues to stroke it
A solid game by the Prince
Johnson played a decent game. He was active, played solid defense and got some nice hoops going to the rim. His fouls were again high so we shall see
The first 7-8 minutes of the third quarter the young Bucks were awesome, outscoring the Cavs 23-3 and pulling away. Jennings, the Prince and Johnson led the defensive effort.
I like the lineup of Bogut, Redd, Jennings, Johnson and the Prince. Enough scoring and will bring hustle and defense.
2 – 0.
Kings up tomorrow at 7:30 PDT.
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