Cut Day: Brian Skinner waived, Darington Hobson safe
The Bucks requested waivers on Brian Skinner today, finalizing their roster at 15. In the process, Milwaukee has (for better or worse) displayed some level of commitment to second-round pick Darington Hobson, who will be retained despite likely missing the entire year to rehab his injured hips.
There are two major issues brought to light by Skinner's release. First, it would seem to suggest that Scott Skiles has a plan for dealing with the backup center problem in-house, barring a trade sometime soon. This will likely entail a somewhat platoon-esque approach, with a number of players splitting time behind Andrew Bogut. Jon Brockman, Drew Gooden, and maybe even Ersan Ilyasova or Larry Sanders are all likely candidates to split some time at the 5. In addition, this move seems like a vote of confidence for Bogut's health. I'd expect that if the Bucks were significantly concerned about his performance, they might have been more aggressive in shoring up a #2 center.
The other important issue concerns what the organization believes they have in Darington Hobson. The immediate opinions after Milwaukee selected Hobson with the 37th pick in last year's draft were positive - Hobson was arguably a late first-round talent depending on the system he was inserted in, but a lack of athleticism or defined skills/position slid him back into the second round.
Hit the jump for some unfounded thoughts on Hobson's future potential.
Hobson took a somewhat strange route up the basketball ladder. He attended five different high schools before electing to attend the College of Eastern Utah, where he averaged 15.2 points and 8.7 rebounds a game.
When he finally wound up at the University of New Mexico, he had big expectations to carry that team to the NCAA Tournament and make a deep run. Hobson, for his part, delivered with an excellent season. Playing in all 35 games, Hobson increased his scoring to 15.9 ppg and led the team in rebounding with 9.3 a game, while also adding 4.6 assists and 1.3 steals a game.
The knocks came against his shooting (only 44% from the floor, 65% from the line) and his physique. At 6-7, he fits best as a swingman. But weighing only 207 lbs, would he be able to stand up against the physical wings he would encounter in the NBA?
Still, those college numbers are tantalizing. While the competition he faced in the Mountain West Conference wasn't exactly top-notch, Hobson showed up big-time in the Lobo's biggest games and was undeniably one of the conferences premiere players. Against then-number 11 BYU, he went for 20/14 and blocked BYU's game-tying shot attempt in the final seconds. In New Mexico's MWC-tournament opening game (albeit against Air Force), he had 28 and 15. While Hobson's scoring dropped off in the Big Dance (11 points in both games), he still averaged a double-double by chipping in 11 and 9 rebounds against Montana and Washington, respectively.
What's important to remember is that Hobson racked up those numbers while operating as a primary ballhandler for New Mexico. Before you think his assist numbers suggest a sub-par ability to distribute, consider that the college assist leader last year (Ronald Moore from Siena) averaged only 7.8 a game, and only 7 other players broke the 6.0 benchmark. Hobson also managed a respectable 1.54 A/TO ratio.
But will those numbers translate, even partially, to the NBA? Consider a guy similar (if more impressive) to Darington: National Player of the Year Evan Turner. All the same positives (versatile scorer, rebounder, distributor) and negatives (Does he have a position? Can he create and make his own shot?), and he went 2nd overall. Now, Darington Hobson certainly didn't perform at the same level as Turner, but he fits the same mold.
I don't know if Hobson has the skills or size to excel at a wing position in a "point-forward" role. Most players who make a name for themselves playing that kind of game are true superstars, and nobody expects Hobson to become an All-Star.
What has me excited, though? What if he can work on his ballhandling and play in a backup point guard role? A 6-7 point guard who rebounds like a SF and is a passable 3PT threat? Exciting. Consider also Skiles' penchant for multi-point guard sets, which worked well with Jennings and Ridnour last year. Pairing Jennings and Hobson in the backcourt could create significant mismatches, stretch the floor, and give the Bucks two capable ballhandlers while strengthening their presence on the boards.
Of course, this is all dependent of Hobson returning to the Bucks next season ready to work on his game. Currently buried behind Milwaukee's deep rotation, Hobson isn't going to see the court on this roster unless he forces his way in or the Bucks make moves in the future to open some playing time. But for the time being, Milwaukee thinks highly enough of his potential to hang on to him, potentially at the expense of a critical piece of the roster.
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I would suppose
With all the aging swingmen on the roster, the Bucks wanted to have some youth to look forward to.
"I'm not Nostradamus or anybody, so I don't know. Luckily, this is the worst injury I've had in my career so far."
- Drew Gooden, on the severity of his toe injury.
I can’t visualize a “Hobson cut, Skinner safe” story including a ’graph that starts “What has me excited, though?”
And that sums up my categorical approval of this final cut.
What if Dan was easily excited by awesome facial hair?
Certainly the most exciting thing about Ol’ Brian.
by Frank Madden on Oct 25, 2010 9:42 PM CDT up reply actions
Close...
I do place unreasonably high value on facial hair, but in this case it’s just not enough.
Think I can make a career out of this...?
by Dan Sinclair on Oct 25, 2010 10:46 PM CDT up reply actions
So...
would you be thrilled to see the Bucks grab Lucas O’Rear out of UNI?
Soon coming to SBNation: The Peyton's Liberation Army?
by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Oct 27, 2010 8:48 AM CDT up reply actions
Definitely glad they kept Hobson
There’s no upside in keeping Skinner, and if they really struggle to back up Bogut they can always get Skinner or someone like him off the street.
Plus, as much as I’ve been unconvinced by Sanders’ readiness so far, I’m a sucker for rookies and I’d love to see him get a chance to play. Definitely more likely with Skinner out of the picture.
Skinner
Even if we have to wait a year to see what Hobson has, I’m excited. Remember Paul Pressey?
No...
Sniff
"I'm not Nostradamus or anybody, so I don't know. Luckily, this is the worst injury I've had in my career so far."
- Drew Gooden, on the severity of his toe injury.
by Jacob Grinyer on Oct 25, 2010 10:12 PM CDT up reply actions
don't think they do at RealGM either
I asked if Hobson bore some comparison to Pressey. Folks offered other comparisons, but no one mentioned Pressey. Guess I showed my… experience.
Since yesterday’s articles can be as overlooked as yesterday’s newspaper (remember those?), I thought I’d recommend Big Crazy Dave’s tasty image showing Carlos Delfino as Carlos… er, Charlie Chaplin in the comments to the Fear The Deer Twitter story.
Agreed, would make a fine addition!
"I'm not Nostradamus or anybody, so I don't know. Luckily, this is the worst injury I've had in my career so far."
- Drew Gooden, on the severity of his toe injury.
by Jacob Grinyer on Oct 26, 2010 3:08 PM CDT up reply actions
Love Paul Pressey
One of my top 5 Bucks of all-time. Same skill set maybe, built a little different for sure. I know Pressey was schooled well in defense by Nolan Richardson at Tulsa.
FTD It's not about flowers anymore.
FEAR THE DEER
Thanks for the props unklchuk :)
Squad Six is to the Bucks what beer is to Milwaukee (or anywhere else for that matter)... the catalyst for you doing dumb things in public and not feeling self-conscious!
by Big Crazy Dave on Oct 27, 2010 3:32 AM CDT up reply actions
Definitely a unique talent...which makes it especially frustrating that he hasn't been able to play
Leading your team in boards and assists isn’t normal. He idolized Penny, but as a lefty without top-shelf athleticism he’s probably more Jalen Rose.
by Frank Madden on Oct 25, 2010 10:58 PM CDT up reply actions
i have no problem taking someone similar to Jalen Rose and rookie level pay
Go Beer, I mean Bucks
by Take Back Our Bucks on Oct 26, 2010 1:00 AM CDT up reply actions
agreed if Skinner was the best big guy we could snap up much wiser to cut him loose and stick with Hobson
Skinner was never really a back up C anyway right, always nice to go with youth and Hobson isnt a huge risk as a 2nd rounder, and if he can stick he will be an interesting talent
That," says LeBron, "is for everyone that watches me play. They witness something special. You're all a witness.
Anybody see this from CDR on Twitter...
I went thru hell 2day.Got eye surgery.Lucky though b/c if I were a day or two late I could’ve lost my vision.Cant play hoop for a MONTH. :-(
Three needles shot under my eye.I was awake the whole time.Shii scared me.They said my career was almost ova.Wouldve been blind in that eye
Wow. I had no idea it was that serious, I don’t think anybody did, So Bogut, (if he was the one who poked him) almost ended his career? Eek. Now we have to reexamine our depth for the next month
And getting needles in my eye, awake nonetheless, is on my list of things I never want to experience.
"I'm not Nostradamus or anybody, so I don't know. Luckily, this is the worst injury I've had in my career so far."
- Drew Gooden, on the severity of his toe injury.
Wow...
lets hope he makes a comback like Amar’e Stoudamire who I think had something similar happen to him and is now back to 100%. He’ll have to adjust to wearing a face mask now for the rest of his career. Hopefully this injury wont make him more hesitant to drive because he’s never had much of a jump shot.
I feel like the Bucks have caught whatever the Packers have….not a good year for Wisconsin sports health-wise
Don't watch the original Halloween then
With Donald Pleasance and Jamie Lee Curtis. I covered my eyes for a month
FTD It's not about flowers anymore.
FEAR THE DEER
Gah huh?
I had a sinking feeling that it was worse than expected when he mentioned that he’d be wearing AmarĂ© goggles. At least he didn’t go blind I suppose. Someone with the nickname One Eyed Chris doesn’t really seem to have much of an NBA future. I should wear a black eyepatch in his honor for every game that he misses.
by MadTown Hoops on Oct 26, 2010 9:46 PM CDT up reply actions
NBA power preview rankings: the writer refered to Jennings as selfish......wtf
thats gotta be written by someone who hardly saw the Bucks play and how Jennings ran the bucks offense…….
That," says LeBron, "is for everyone that watches me play. They witness something special. You're all a witness.
To be fair
He did put up some awful shots at times when he should have passed it….But selfish definitely wasn’t the right word to use
"I'm not Nostradamus or anybody, so I don't know. Luckily, this is the worst injury I've had in my career so far."
- Drew Gooden, on the severity of his toe injury.
by Jacob Grinyer on Oct 26, 2010 3:33 PM CDT up reply actions
to be fair he didnt have many options until Salmons appeared........and he was forced to create alot of stuff
That," says LeBron, "is for everyone that watches me play. They witness something special. You're all a witness.
here we go:
I absolutely refuse to believe that a team with two players as selfish as Corey Maggette and Brandon Jennings can be any good. Scott Skiles is going to have his hands full with those two, and he no longer has Luke Ridnour to bail him out. Seriously, that wasn’t a joke. The only reason the Bucks will win more than 40 games is because they get to play so many other really bad teams.
thats an insult to our unselfishness and stellar defense
That," says LeBron, "is for everyone that watches me play. They witness something special. You're all a witness.
and he is also taking a shot at my man Maggette.......now im outraged
That," says LeBron, "is for everyone that watches me play. They witness something special. You're all a witness.
Eh he doesn't like Bogut, so he might have a vendetta
And LOL “The only reason the Bucks will win more than 40 games is because they get to play so many other bad teams” I could use that excuse for any team.
"I'm not Nostradamus or anybody, so I don't know. Luckily, this is the worst injury I've had in my career so far."
- Drew Gooden, on the severity of his toe injury.
by Jacob Grinyer on Oct 26, 2010 3:39 PM CDT up reply actions
I was wondeting if this guy was just taking the piss......but he seems serious......its hardly a fair analysis
I understand he has a few lines to get his point across but its dismissive and an afront to how we played last year, Im distressed that someone would come to such a conclusion about the effort the Bucks put forth last year
yes beating the teams you should is part of being a good team, even when you dont play great you get it done
That," says LeBron, "is for everyone that watches me play. They witness something special. You're all a witness.
Different from college
Ditto that last point. People seem to have trouble distinguishing pro sports from college sports. A win is a win, it’s not a knock against a team if they consistently beat worse opponents. I mean, come on, the Bucks almost beat an obviously more talented Hawks team in the playoffs!
Think I can make a career out of this...?
by Dan Sinclair on Oct 26, 2010 3:58 PM CDT up reply actions
am I being to sensitive? just annoyed me someone would make such bold statements that seem pretty ignorant
its not even funny just seems mean spirited……..im going to sit in the corner and brood now
That," says LeBron, "is for everyone that watches me play. They witness something special. You're all a witness.
Haha
I asked Seth about it on Twitter, and he said he didn’t like his leadership or attitude. Which I can understand, considering Brandon’s cockiness turns people off.
"I'm not Nostradamus or anybody, so I don't know. Luckily, this is the worst injury I've had in my career so far."
- Drew Gooden, on the severity of his toe injury.
by Jacob Grinyer on Oct 26, 2010 3:51 PM CDT up reply actions
hmm seems like he just doesnt like Jennings putting him on the same level as Corey Maggette is a bum deal
especially as Jennings anchored a team that improved its wins significantly after his arrival……
That," says LeBron, "is for everyone that watches me play. They witness something special. You're all a witness.
dude was rolling around Milwaukee in a ford focus until recently! how cocky can he be :)
That," says LeBron, "is for everyone that watches me play. They witness something special. You're all a witness.
Seth had a big anti-Jennings post right after the 55 point game as well
I know Seth (talked to him for a while this weekend actually) and he’s a good guy, but that reads more like message board trolling than power ranking analysis. You’d never guess he has us 6th in the East (which I don’t think is unreasonable at all).
by Frank Madden on Oct 26, 2010 6:13 PM CDT up reply actions
yeah no issue with our ranking just the wording was a bit harsh...seemed like he just didnt like the Bucks
That," says LeBron, "is for everyone that watches me play. They witness something special. You're all a witness.
Bucks have excersised an option on Hammond's contract today
And extended Skiles, meaning they will both be here through at least the 2012-12 season.
WORST MOVE EVAR!
;)
"I'm not Nostradamus or anybody, so I don't know. Luckily, this is the worst injury I've had in my career so far."
- Drew Gooden, on the severity of his toe injury.
Whoops
thats 2012-13
"I'm not Nostradamus or anybody, so I don't know. Luckily, this is the worst injury I've had in my career so far."
- Drew Gooden, on the severity of his toe injury.
by Jacob Grinyer on Oct 26, 2010 4:15 PM CDT up reply actions
Suddenly the depth is less of a luxury...
…and more of a savior.
Think I can make a career out of this...?
by Dan Sinclair on Oct 26, 2010 10:46 PM CDT up reply actions

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