Hornets 95, Bucks 91: Chris Paul and David West have done this before
Take a look at the New Orleans Hornets' roster and it will take you about a tenth of a second to realize what Monty Williams' crew is going to do.
Chris Paul, David West, pick & roll. Wash, rinse, repeat.
The Bucks saw that combo early and all too often, as Paul patiently carved up a collapsing and mostly slow-footed Bucks defense to the tune of 17 points (6/11 shots), 16 dimes, and just a single turnover in helping New Orleans hold off the Bucks 95-91 in the opener in the Big Easy. West was Paul's favorite target with 22 points on 14 shots in only 27 minutes, most of those coming on open looks from 17-20 feet, but the wafer-thin Hornets also got just enough balance and just enough defense to scrape out their sixth straight home opening win.
Doing their best to play through the Andrew Bogut in the post, the Bucks couldn't buy a shot early and trailed by 10 late in the first, but seven points in 40 seconds from Corey Maggette and threes from Brandon Jennings and Carlos Delfino helped the Bucks snag an improbable lead 30-29 lead after one. The teams then battled back and forth until late in the third. Jennings, Delfino and Maggette helped the Bucks twice extend to five point edges, but Paul flipped the switch as New Orleans scored the final 11 of the period. First he found Jason Smith and the Artist Formerly Known as Peja Stojakovic for a layup and triple, respectively, before taking things into his own hands with a runner and a buzzer-beating three to stake New Orleans to a 78-72 lead after three.
New Orleans certainly didn't shoot lights out (43% fg, 4/17 threes), but Paul's ability to wriggle around screens, draw defenders and pick out open teammates gave them enough good chances to prevent the misfiring Bucks from getting closer than a point in the fourth. Delfino trimmed the lead to 92-91 on a catch-and-shoot corner three with 83 seconds left, but Jennings fouled a driving Paul on the ensuing possession and the Bucks couldn't score again in the final minute. Drew Gooden rushed a shot with 55 seconds left and the struggling John Salmons (2/8 fg, 4 to) didn't get any help with six seconds left when Trevor Ariza appeared to rake his arm as he went up for a potentially tying three. No whistle, no win for the Bucks. And given how they looked for much of the night, that was probably the correct outcome.
The Bucks had their share of encouraging performances, including double-doubles from Andrew Bogut (15 pts, 15 rebs), Brandon Jennings (15 pts, 10 ast, 1 to), and Drew Gooden (15 pts, 11 rebs). But aside from that trio and the small forward combo of Carlos Delfino (19 pts on 12 shots) and Corey Maggette (16 pts, 8/8 ft in 20 min) there was no help.
Three Bucks
Carlos Delfino - 38 min, 7/12 fg, 5/10 threes, 19 pts, 5 reb, 3 stl, 1 to, +8
This site has been something of a Carlitos lovefest of late, so I was rather pleased to see him validate all my positivity with a classic Delfino game. He had his catch-and-shoot working--the only Buck who could make that claim--did his part on defense, and just generally played the sort of complementary game that makes him the right choice to start at small forward. Maximum contribution with minimum touches.
Andrew Bogut - 36 min, 6/12 fg, 3/10 ft, 15 pts, 15 rebs, 1 ast, 1 blk, 1 to
Bogut was effective in spite of obvious right arm rustiness, laboring at times but proving once again that getting him on the court is hugely beneficial regardless of how healthy he might be. The Bucks tried to get him involved early with a series of post touches, but he had some trouble getting good position against the stout Emeka Okafor and made just 1/5 fg to start the game. Thankfully Bogut settled down as the game wore on, dropping in four lefty hooks and a pair of two-handed dunks to account for all six of his buckets. Maybe he should start shooting free throws with his left hand as well, because he seemed to have zero confidence at the line: 3/10 from the stripe including four misses down the stretch. At this pace we may see other teams breaking out the hack-a-Bogut strategy soon.
Brandon Jennings - 41 min, 5/14 fg, 2/6 threes, 3/4 ft, 15 pts, 10 ast, 2 reb, 1 stl, 1 to
As much as Paul was the star of the night, Jennings actually acquitted himself rather respectably in his first professional matchup with the league's best PG. On the positive side, he gamely chased Paul around the court on defense, worked the ball around the court well, and was 3/4 inside 10 feet. Yay, converting at the rim. But he was also 0/4 from midrange and in general it's obvious he's got a ways to go before he can claim to be in Paul's league. Live and learn.
Three Numbers
10. Jennings declared last month that he wants to average 10 assists per game this season, a rather ambitious figure for a guy who averaged less than six per contest as a rookie and totaled double-digits just three times in 89 games a year ago. I'd probably be happy with seven, but playing against the active leader in ast/game may have brought the best out of Jennings' distribution. By the way, Chris Paul's career assist average: 10.0 assists per game.
10. Same number, different meaning. Getting to the line has been a theme of much speculation over the past few months, and Bogut's 10 free throw attempts should be a good sign for a guy who didn't have more than eight in any of his 69 games last year. The down side? Well, you have to actually make them. Besides that, a number of Bogut's trips to the line came off loose ball fouls rather than acts of offensive aggression.
+5. Watching Maggette tear through the Hornets' second unit late in the first quarter had me feeling rather optimistic about the battle of the benches. My thinking was if the starters can play Paul and company even, the bench could take care of the rest. But Maggette began settling for jump shots in the second half and no one else off the bench was up for the challenge as Nola finished with a 27-22 scoring advantage off the bench.
Three Good
Delfino/Maggette. It's probably too early to say "I told you so" to those who wanted Maggette starting ahead of Delfino, but for now let's just say this: I'm feeling pretty good about the Bucks' SF rotation. You always need somebody who can spot up and do the little things, which is why Delfino makes sense with the starting five. And you always need someone in the second unit who can create shots and make things happen on their own. Playing with the starters, Maggette's aggressiveness could easily come off as selfish; playing with the second unit it's a huge blessing. On paper I also like that he's paired with a spot-up guy like Ilyasova in the second unit.
Gooden/Bogut. As much as I appreciate Luc Mbah a Moute's ability to be effective at the 4 in spite of his size, and as much as it might have been useful having someone more mobile keep track of West, there's something really nice about having a starting PF who can make a jump shot, score a bit in the post, and rebound. You know, a real PF. Gooden may have been a step slow recovering in P&R, but overall I still like the way he complements Bogut up front. He played a bit of 5 in the second half--Larry Sanders didn't get a callback after some early minutes--but you can tell that the 4 is where he belongs.
It's on. It's always hard to find positives when your team loses a very winnable road game, but the Bucks probably deserve some slack given the fact that they've barely practiced together as a complete group. Besides, basketball is back...and don't worry, it'll get better.
Three Bad
Salmons. With CDR injured, Skiles didn't have many options at the 2 so you can understand why he went with the guy who will be starting over the long term. But Salmons just didn't look comfortable and couldn't get any easy looks early to get him on track. Salmons always seems to be going half-speed so it was tough to gauge how much he's being slowed by his knee at the moment, but in general the Bucks seemed hesitant to run plays for him.
Bench. They're a bit short-handed, but the bench had to be better against a thin team like the Hornets. Dooling looked particularly lost, though the injury to CDR meant that he was also playing more SG than you'd otherwise expect. And Ilyasova's preseason bricklaying continued, missing all four of his jump shots en route to a team-worst -17 differential in just 15 minutes.
Sanders' debut. Larry Sanders replaced Bogut late in the first for his first real NBA minutes, and quickly made a nice pass along the baseline for a Maggette layup. Other than that? Not much. He uncharacteristically airmailed an open jumper from the right baseline and missed two free throws after a foul near midcourt. He did come back to swat a Jerryd Bayless shot near the first quarter buzzer, but Skiles didn't see enough to bring him back for more bur in the second half.
Comment of the Night
We're playing the Hornets.
I was unaware we had to play the Zebras and ourselves as well…
- OBrienSchofieldismyHero
87 comments
|
0 recs |
Do you like this story?
Comments
Bucks seemed pretty rusty....understandable because this line up hasnt played at all together
and did anyone play defense today in the NBA? even Charlotte exploded for 86…the Czar would be proud
still pretty encouraged by Bogut still doing a Bogut pretty well, Gooden despite being crunched on D looking good going the other way and Maggette as advertised
That," says LeBron, "is for everyone that watches me play. They witness something special. You're all a witness.
Bad individual.
The terrible play of John Salmons can be directly related to this loss. It is not all on him because the team defense was weak as well, but he more than any other individual, was horrible.
Ersan played terrible as well but Salmons played twice as many minutes. Oh well, it’s one game. Gotta like Gooden and Bogues together on the front line. Go Bucks.
With Salmons obviously not 100%...
I’m surprised we didn’t see more of Maggette. The Bucks should have abused Belinelli on the offensive end. Whoever he was guarding should have posted him up some. Just so no one is confused with this statement about seeing more of Maggette, I said it day one after the trade and believe it now…Maggette should be the 6th man on this team. HOWEVER, Skiles has to recognize when a starter isn’t getting the job done (whether because of health or otherwise) and be willing to expand Maggette’s role on those nights. I saw 2 big advantages going into this game….SG and C. Bogut did well with his match-up. The Bucks did not take advantage at the SG spot.
I really didn’t like how the end of the game unraveled.
Skiles teaching time...
…I think perhaps the reason we didn’t see Maggette late in the game was because he settled for jump shots, and Skiles, as he does so often, sat him to make a point. Just my opinion.
And it's not like Maggette is in game shape either
He’s looked good in short bursts, but he’s working his way back from ankle surgery. Our best lineup last night probably has Delfino/Maggette at the 2/3, so maybe 5-10 more minutes from Maggette were in order. But I didn’t expect Dooling to be so worthless either.
by Frank Madden on Oct 28, 2010 11:30 AM CDT up reply actions
yeah Dooling was particularly shite I must say almost made me look where Boykins was
only a tiny tiny sample though Dooling will work his way into it
That," says LeBron, "is for everyone that watches me play. They witness something special. You're all a witness.
He did play for New Jersey
I wonder what the collective career W/L totals would be for the Bucks. Considering Gooden, Maggette, Dooling and Michael Redd are on the team, it’s probably not good.
by MadTown Hoops on Oct 28, 2010 8:11 PM CDT up reply actions
Here you go
I estimated the guys who have been traded a lot or signed mid-season a lot (here’s looking down on you, Earl), counting games played on days they were traded for their new team. Example: Player A traded Feb 18, both his old and new team played, old team lost, new team won, Player A gets credit for a win. Probably not kosher, but I didn’t think of that until after calculating Drew Gooden’s numbers and I was too lazy to fix it. If you looked at it the same way you might differ by a couple wins and losses, but meh.
Here are the results:
NAME W L % A Bogut 174 236 .424 E Boykins 343 412 .454 J Brockman 25 57 .305 C Delfino 258 152 .629 K Dooling 358 462 .437 C Douglas-Roberts 46 118 .280 D Gooden 316 335 .485 D Hobson 0 0 .000 E Ilyasova 74 90 .451 B Jennings 46 36 .561 C Maggette 368 534 .408 L Mbah a Moute 80 84 .488 M Redd 380 440 .463 J Salmons 311 347 .473 L Sanders 0 0 .000 TOTAL 2779 3303 .457
Delfino’s worst team was 41-41.
I never use a big word when a diminutive word would suffice.
You Are Awesome
Very cool, I’ve wanted to see something like this for a long time. It’s about what I expected. This team features a lot of players that fit into the mediocre/good but not great mold. That cumulative win % projects to about a 37-45 record.
Now I know that that number doesn’t take into account trends or playing time, but it does shed some light on the job that Skiles has this year. I honestly think that though his chance to win another Coach of the Year has passed, this is a the year he would truly deserve it.
by MadTown Hoops on Oct 29, 2010 1:22 AM CDT up reply actions
His CoY campaign should focus on all the 2000-2001 Clippers he has
Especially if they ever bring Skinner back.
I never use a big word when a diminutive word would suffice.
I think Maggette not being in shape...
…is why isn’t starting, so hold off on the I told you so’s for a bit, lol. Hey Frank, please fix my account. For some reason I am unable to login automatically even though I check to do that.
It was working until yesterday. now I have to log in everytime which is a pain in the…
I'm guessing it has something to do with your browser settings
Either cookies aren’t on or your browser erases them every time you close out.
by Frank Madden on Oct 28, 2010 10:19 PM CDT up reply actions
The Hornets roster seems like a mess
They definitely lead the league in players whose names only sound vaguely familiar.
As for the Bucks, it was about what I expected after so many guys missing huge chunks of training camp. A little rusty, still trying to figure out each other’s games, but no reason to panic. I was pretty happy with the ball movement from the new guys (Maggette, Gooden), it just seemed like nobody besides Delfino could get a shot to fall.
Not adding up
I thought the starters last night showed us the same thing the reserves showed in preseason: right now the whole is less than the sum of the parts. If/when they have more Team Purpose, then individuals like Salmons, Gooden and Maggette (both at end of game) won’t be having to take poor shots on individual effort.
Skiles said his team was sluggish all night long, at both ends of the court. Deserved to lose. Playing together should fix that. Although, it is a bit of an unknown the degree to which they will come together and find more energy. Last season was special; this season has yet to reveal itself.
Almost glad I missed it
Hi guys. The winds knocked out my cable and internet from the early first quarter on …..Without watching most of it, do you think they just have not had a lot of time together?
There goes 82-0
Disappointed-yes. surprised-not really. Not much time to gel as a team with the injuries and up against a decent team on the road we shouldn’t be shocked by the result. There were enough positives to take away from the game so I’d say no concern on my behalf anyway. We could have signed Amir Johnson to that crazy contract to get 12 minutes, 2 points, 1 rebound, 1 block and 4 fouls, what were you thinking Brian. And hey, the Bulls lost too.
FTD It's not about flowers anymore.
FEAR THE DEER
Just not enough time together...?
Probably.
Hammond/Skiles (one of them) said a while back that you never really can count on chemistry. To extend that a bit: you can have it and then lose it, without any Really Big Reason. You can add new players with chemistry firmly in mind, and have it not work. The good managements plan for it, the comment suggested, but don’t really have complete control over it.
We don’t have enough of it now. Playing together should fix that. But it can’t be assumed; it has to be achieved.
I'm going to believe that the Bucks would of won this game if CDR & Luc had played.
I’m not sure that’s accurate – but it’s what I’m sticking with.
I gotta think that Luc would have atleast slowed down D West, because Ersan & Gooden surely didn’t.
I like to think just Salmons being healthy would have done the trick
With Brockman, LRMAM, CDR all hurt, and the Fish looking out of water, I think just one of those guys being healthy would have done the trick. That’s the beauty of the depth that the Bucks are blessed with. Better things to come for sure.
Correct about LRNAM
Skiles uses him on several players. Luc would have come out on West more often to force him to driblle, or pass. Gooden wasn’t respecting his outside shooting.
Gooden isn't good at defense on NBA players.
WEAVER! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
you have to play with the guys you have
and there were enough healthy bodies to win this game. The Bucks didn’t take advantage of the SG match-up because Skiles insisted on playing a rusty or still hobbled (or both) Salmons for monster minutes.
hey, watch it...
if you start correcting your grammar, we all might have to do it. That violates the Fandom Geneva Convention. In fact, make that the Fandom Geneva Contention so I can do the right thing by flaunting an error…
Not the best way to start off a season, but not the worst.
Believe it or not the Bucks still played good defense, with a defensive efficiency of 101.1, almost the same as their average last year. Offense was stale, 14 assists just won’t cut it, especially with one player (Brandon) accounting for 70% of them.
Hopefully they’ve learned a bit from their battles against Minnesota for Round 3….
"I'm not Nostradamus or anybody, so I don't know. Luckily, this is the worst injury I've had in my career so far."
- Drew Gooden, on the severity of his toe injury.
And Luke scored 20 last night
Think he’ll be pumped to play the Bucks? We’ll need more from Dooling, especially while CDR is out for sure.
FTD It's not about flowers anymore.
FEAR THE DEER
by CanadaBucks on Oct 28, 2010 11:07 AM CDT up reply actions
For sure
Hoping we can get Luc Richard back soon, Skiles needs more options to go to, and Ersan and Sanders have been Meh.
And if Luke plays like that the whole year, well there goes Fluke Ridnour….
"I'm not Nostradamus or anybody, so I don't know. Luckily, this is the worst injury I've had in my career so far."
- Drew Gooden, on the severity of his toe injury.
by Jacob Grinyer on Oct 28, 2010 11:12 AM CDT up reply actions
From Ersan last year
We know how inconsistent his consistency was…maybe bodes well for Friday. Hopefully Sanders plays a bit better and earns some more burn.
FTD It's not about flowers anymore.
FEAR THE DEER
by CanadaBucks on Oct 28, 2010 11:22 AM CDT up reply actions
think we should have enough depth....Ersan just had s stinker, same goes for Dooling and Salmons hadnt played a meaningful game
even with the current lineup we should have a good solid rotation Id like Luc for sure as a lockdown guy but I have faith in the lineup e played tonight to get it done
That," says LeBron, "is for everyone that watches me play. They witness something special. You're all a witness.
Well, that was disappointing
Think Gooden might be our 6th man so we can get Maggette in the game faster? Gooden’s defense…ouch. I think I might have to write an essay to conclusively prove it exists…
Trail Blazers atop the Northwest at 2-0!
by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Oct 28, 2010 11:33 AM CDT reply actions
Eh
I don’t think it was THAT bad, but he definitely always seems to be a step slower then his man.
"I'm not Nostradamus or anybody, so I don't know. Luckily, this is the worst injury I've had in my career so far."
- Drew Gooden, on the severity of his toe injury.
by Jacob Grinyer on Oct 28, 2010 11:35 AM CDT up reply actions
And lets be reasonable
We knew Gooden wasn’t the total package, but if he gives us 15 and 11 who wouldn’t take that. Gooden is certainly not the major reason we lost the game.
FTD It's not about flowers anymore.
FEAR THE DEER
by CanadaBucks on Oct 28, 2010 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions
And Chris Bosh is
11.5 and 7.5 after two games, and Bosh and defense are rarely mentioned in the same sentence. And Bosh cost a bit more too. And on another note, if LBJ averages a triple double this year, might one of them be turnovers?
FTD It's not about flowers anymore.
FEAR THE DEER
by CanadaBucks on Oct 28, 2010 12:00 PM CDT up reply actions
Quadruple double!
30 points, 10 assists 10 turnovers, 10 fouls. Yes, the refs are giving him 4 more fouls to work with.
"I'm not Nostradamus or anybody, so I don't know. Luckily, this is the worst injury I've had in my career so far."
- Drew Gooden, on the severity of his toe injury.
by Jacob Grinyer on Oct 28, 2010 12:02 PM CDT up reply actions
His Sycophantic Entourage
Would likely have a good spin to put on that.
FTD It's not about flowers anymore.
FEAR THE DEER
by CanadaBucks on Oct 28, 2010 12:09 PM CDT up reply actions
ESPN lead 'story' James Quadruple Double
That," says LeBron, "is for everyone that watches me play. They witness something special. You're all a witness.
Turnovers, personal fouls, technicals, and ejections?
Trail Blazers atop the Northwest at 2-0!
by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Oct 28, 2010 1:10 PM CDT up reply actions
Getting ejected 10 times doesn't sound all too fun
"I'm not Nostradamus or anybody, so I don't know. Luckily, this is the worst injury I've had in my career so far."
- Drew Gooden, on the severity of his toe injury.
by Jacob Grinyer on Oct 28, 2010 1:12 PM CDT up reply actions
The fine for that
would likely exceed James’s salary lol
Trail Blazers atop the Northwest at 2-0!
by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Oct 28, 2010 1:14 PM CDT up reply actions
turnovers, personal fouls, shoulder shrugs and encouraging thoughts for Chris Bosch
That," says LeBron, "is for everyone that watches me play. They witness something special. You're all a witness.
Please
those are a given.
LBJ’s quadruple double consists of getting dunked on, turnovers, notable whines, and defensive gaffes.
Trail Blazers atop the Northwest at 2-0!
by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Oct 28, 2010 4:52 PM CDT up reply actions
refering to one self in the third person
That," says LeBron, "is for everyone that watches me play. They witness something special. You're all a witness.
I don't think getting Maggette in the game faster will help our defense :)
by Frank Madden on Oct 28, 2010 1:01 PM CDT up reply actions
not unless he seperates the oppositions leading scorer shoulder on one of his kamakaze line drives to the hoop
That," says LeBron, "is for everyone that watches me play. They witness something special. You're all a witness.
Mags
I’d rather see Mags foul out being called for “charging” than see him settling for jump shots. Otherwise, his rebounding and defense was a plesant surprise. His stature and athleticism looks like it will give him a lot of advantages on both the offensive and defensive ends in man-to-man.
oh no doubt if he doesnt take another jump shot for the whole season Ill be happy
his bread and butter is going to be scoring inside for us……I thought Maggette was very good for his limited pre season, he certainly gave us an offensive spark and option when we were struggling to get going…….he should dominate 2nd units around the league
That," says LeBron, "is for everyone that watches me play. They witness something special. You're all a witness.
Ridnour & Dooling...
I think the Bucks and Ridnour are still “close.” On good terms. So if Minnesota ever harvests all the PGs they’ve acquired, and if the contract somehow becomes acceptable, I could see him coming back this way in a trade. Was last season a high-output fluke? The actuarial tables suggest it is. But Luke is the kind of guy who could work for and achieve a high level fairly deep in his career. I’d say 50/50.
I’m a skeptic on Dooling. Has some skills, but not really PG skills. If Skiles can get him to run an offense actively and make a difference in the game, that will be a major achievement.
Sorta hope Skiles uses Sanders like he did last night. Gives him consistent, but relatively minor, minutes. Just enough to work on his game and keep hope alive. With more as he earns it. Skiles was quite willing to invest in Jennings last season. It paid off. Management is high on Sanders. They’ll likely invest in him too, but initially in a more limited way since Sanders is currently very incomplete.
Rookie PT depends on a lot of things
I remember Nellie gave Marques Johnson a lot of burn right off the bat and that worked well. With Sid and paul Pressey he brought them on slowly and that paid off as well. I think Sanders will be fine and I think we’ll see a bit better line on Friday and Saturday from Larry.
FTD It's not about flowers anymore.
FEAR THE DEER
by CanadaBucks on Oct 28, 2010 12:17 PM CDT up reply actions
I think Sanders will have to earn his playing time which im fine with......you know where you stand with Skiles, rebounding, defensive hustle, contesting shots wil get you burn
its far better for rookies than playing for guys like Nellie and D’Antoni who seem to set rosters on their whim and own accord…..you cant play everyone but as long as your honest and open with a player I thinks thats fair
That," says LeBron, "is for everyone that watches me play. They witness something special. You're all a witness.
admittedly we dont have a top tier NBA superstar but we have some real quality good NBA players
i like our combination at most players they seem to compliment each other Delfino/Maggette Gooden/Ersan/Luc Salmons/CDR Jennings/Dooling/Boykins and Sanders/Brockman just need to be a but patient and let them get healthy and find a groove
really encouraged by Boguts game, FT’s apart admittedly but for a first legit game back a double double was solid
That," says LeBron, "is for everyone that watches me play. They witness something special. You're all a witness.
Delfinos' comments on the match from his website
“It’s a tough loss. We paid expensively our mistakes and, although we had a chance to win, we couldn’t. Bad start in the 4th quarter and other little details made us start this season loosing. This is a game to understand that we must be again very tough on defense so that we can have oxygen while attacking…”
exactomundo
the one thing that worried me about Carlito was again he seems like he will live and die offensively by his 3 pt shooting? Is that fair? Nothing wrong with nailing open catch and shoot shots thats for sure though
That," says LeBron, "is for everyone that watches me play. They witness something special. You're all a witness.
While playing with the National Team
his FG percentage was a lot more balanced and he made a lot of FTs, but it was because he and Scola had to do all the work in offensive.
I don’t think that with Magette, Salmons and BJ around will have many penetration attempts per game. And half of them will end in pass for an open guy at the perimeter. At least while the team is consolidating. We can expect, though, when he finally gets to the rim, a nice play, a dunk of the week or something.
Jennings
If Jennings wants to evolve as a PG he has to become a dominant scorer and can’t hesitate like he did last night and much of last season. Forget what the critics are saying about FG%, if players don’t respect your ability to score it hurts everyone else. He need s to be scoring 20+ppg this season. If he does that double teams and other opportunities to make plays for assists will come more easily plus the Bucks have the rebounders now.
He looks like he doesn't want to be "The Man"
For example:
End of game shot, instead of trying to shoot the 3 and make it, he tried to draw a foul from 3. Make the play Jennings! If you miss it I can live with that, if you look for a bail out from the refs, you look like a novice.
99% of the time when he was coming down the court you knew he was going to pass the ball right away to the man coming off the picks to the wing and even tho it was predictable, he still did it. CP3 barely had to guard him. Occasionally he got the ball back and made something of the play so he ended with 15. That 15 looked easy, he could have had 30.
Its not about being better than Chris Paul or anybody else, its about being the best that he can be in helping the Bucks win. When Jennings is scoring, I’d guess most of us feel confident that the Bucks are going to win this game.
Think I'd rather see 15 and 10
Than 25 and 4 or 5. And we do need a guy who is going to take the last shot, just don’t know if Jennings is the guy and if he’s not, is that so bad?
FTD It's not about flowers anymore.
FEAR THE DEER
And as an afterthought to that
It appears Rose feels he wants to be the man or needs to be the man but who had the better line last night? I’d vote Jennings
FTD It's not about flowers anymore.
FEAR THE DEER
12 of 31
And they call Jennings a chucker.
"I'm not Nostradamus or anybody, so I don't know. Luckily, this is the worst injury I've had in my career so far."
- Drew Gooden, on the severity of his toe injury.
by Jacob Grinyer on Oct 28, 2010 3:17 PM CDT up reply actions
um, that last shot thingie...
weren’t the Hornets up by 4 with about 2 seconds left when the Bucks inbounded? if I’m correct, Jennings had to try to get a 4 point play. There was not enough time to shoot a 3, foul and have any chance of getting the ball back. I’m pretty sure the clock expired by the time the ball got to the rim anyway.
Not a certainty
While I do agree that Jennings would flourish as a scoring-point guard, teams are still gonna dare him to beat them until he develops a consistent jumper. Rajon Rondo can get to the rim and finish almost at will, but he got shut down when the Lakers played 5 feet off him in the playoffs and dared him to shoot.
Consistent scoring will certainly help no matter how he does it (points are points, after all), but his number one focus HAS to be improving his shooting, if that’s possible. Maybe he’s just never gonna be a great shooter, but considering his respectable outside shot and solid FT%, I think the potential is there.
Think I can make a career out of this...?
by Dan Sinclair on Oct 28, 2010 3:58 PM CDT up reply actions
Jennings will have a tougher learning curve this season with no bail out from Ridnour.......not a bad thing
I thought that he scored a by getting into the lane a few times was encouraging, Chris Paul is elite so there is no shame in getting beaten
That," says LeBron, "is for everyone that watches me play. They witness something special. You're all a witness.
And for the Kahn-ophiles out there
Love only played 24 minutes yesterday, and was benched for the last 8 minutes because apparently Rambis thought Anthony Tolliver played “stellar defense”, but when he was in the game they gave up 18 points of 16 possessions. What the heck is going on over there? I thought they got Rid of Jefferson to give Love a bigger role. http://nba.fanhouse.com/2010/10/28/the-works-where-is-the-love/
And now the Wolves…Are…Um, wow. Really guys?
http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post/_/id/20841/on-renegotiating-a-trade-after-the-fact
The whole organization is headed in a terribly wrong direction.
"I'm not Nostradamus or anybody, so I don't know. Luckily, this is the worst injury I've had in my career so far."
- Drew Gooden, on the severity of his toe injury.
So Kahn is saying
Because I never make bad deals I must have got hoodwinked on this one?
FTD It's not about flowers anymore.
FEAR THE DEER
Wouldn't be surprised
"I'm not Nostradamus or anybody, so I don't know. Luckily, this is the worst injury I've had in my career so far."
- Drew Gooden, on the severity of his toe injury.
by Jacob Grinyer on Oct 28, 2010 4:09 PM CDT up reply actions
The Wolves are like the Bucks of a few years ago
A lot of bad pieces that don’t fit together, no clear direction and an incompetent coach and front office.
"I'm not Nostradamus or anybody, so I don't know. Luckily, this is the worst injury I've had in my career so far."
- Drew Gooden, on the severity of his toe injury.
by Jacob Grinyer on Oct 28, 2010 5:59 PM CDT up reply actions
With one very good, promising big guy who the organisation just doesn't quite understand should have the team built around him...
Squad Six is to the Bucks what beer is to Milwaukee (or anywhere else for that matter)... the catalyst for you doing dumb things in public and not feeling self-conscious!
by Big Crazy Dave on Oct 29, 2010 12:40 AM CDT up reply actions
Add in one foreign point guard who's never going to play for them
and you have a basketball team.*
(* = I never said they were a GOOD basketball team)
Trail Blazers atop the Northwest at 2-0!
by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Oct 29, 2010 10:22 AM CDT up reply actions
Kurt Rambis does not seem to be a good coach
All of that veneer from working with Phil Jackson has been scrapped off by the Wreck of Kahn.
by MadTown Hoops on Oct 28, 2010 8:14 PM CDT up reply actions
he needs to a) remove his head from Kahns arse
some guys should just stay Phil Jackson’s assistant same went for Jim Cleamons
That," says LeBron, "is for everyone that watches me play. They witness something special. You're all a witness.
what a piss take wtf Anthony Tolliver.....they got rid of Jefferson cos they ran a stupid system that in no way took advantage of his skill set and he struggled to fit in
absolute joke
That," says LeBron, "is for everyone that watches me play. They witness something special. You're all a witness.
The Knicks-Raptors game from last night was all about defense
Who would have thought.
"I'm not Nostradamus or anybody, so I don't know. Luckily, this is the worst injury I've had in my career so far."
- Drew Gooden, on the severity of his toe injury.
Or more likely...
Crappy offense on both sides
"I'm not Nostradamus or anybody, so I don't know. Luckily, this is the worst injury I've had in my career so far."
- Drew Gooden, on the severity of his toe injury.
by Jacob Grinyer on Oct 28, 2010 5:57 PM CDT up reply actions
If the Raptors are involved
assume crappy offense.
Its been that way since VC left.
Trail Blazers atop the Northwest at 2-0!
by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Oct 28, 2010 6:03 PM CDT up reply actions
But their defense is also atrocious
I imagine Jay Triano to be like a kindergarten gym teacher during practices.
“Okay kids! I laid down this carpet, but you can’t go on it. Pretend it’s like fire!
“So, uh, coach, we have to stay outside the 3 point line the whole time?”
“Yep! And remember, keep your hands and feet to yourself! Don’t try and get that rebound, you might get a bruise!”
Bargnani learned from the best.
"I'm not Nostradamus or anybody, so I don't know. Luckily, this is the worst injury I've had in my career so far."
- Drew Gooden, on the severity of his toe injury.
by Jacob Grinyer on Oct 28, 2010 8:26 PM CDT up reply actions
woahh that kinda talk will get you locked up in Toronto
That," says LeBron, "is for everyone that watches me play. They witness something special. You're all a witness.
Mentioning VC
would get me banned in all likelihood…
Trail Blazers atop the Northwest at 2-0!
by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Oct 28, 2010 9:38 PM CDT up reply actions
speaking of such Orlando started Lewis at PF Q-Rich at SF and VC at SG........good luck with that one boys
your not winning a championship with that lineup
That," says LeBron, "is for everyone that watches me play. They witness something special. You're all a witness.
I think they can....
Their goal is simple: Give the ball to Dwight, draw the defenders to him, and then shoot a load of three balls….
Quentin is a lot better fit for them then Barnes, IMO.
"I'm not Nostradamus or anybody, so I don't know. Luckily, this is the worst injury I've had in my career so far."
- Drew Gooden, on the severity of his toe injury.
by Jacob Grinyer on Oct 28, 2010 9:46 PM CDT up reply actions
fair point speedy....... your young and positive though im older and cynical ;)
not sure how much Q has in the tank though and he is pretty hot n cold and that goes for Vinsanity too he shut it down without much of a shot against Boston……we shall see
That," says LeBron, "is for everyone that watches me play. They witness something special. You're all a witness.
Stranger things have happened
like the Bulls taking the Celtics to 7 in the opening round…
Trail Blazers atop the Northwest at 2-0!
by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Oct 28, 2010 10:10 PM CDT up reply actions
ill take those odds please :)
That," says LeBron, "is for everyone that watches me play. They witness something special. You're all a witness.
yup Triano is the opposite of Sam Mitchell....Mitchell instilled some discipline with the team and helped them play respectable basketball and held players accountable
this is Colangelo’s debacle, feel sorry for Toronto fans really
That," says LeBron, "is for everyone that watches me play. They witness something special. You're all a witness.
I think it's Rod Sarver's debacle
If he wasn’t a miserly owner who preferred money to draft picks and let so many people walk, the Suns would have two championships in the last decade and Amaré and Colangelo would still be there. I guess some blame goes to Tim Donahy and the refs of the Spurs-Suns series as well.
by MadTown Hoops on Oct 29, 2010 7:10 PM CDT up reply actions
Honestly, the Hornets were terribly perfect especially the combination of the duo David West and Chris Paul could blast any defense and of any team in the NBA. Paul used West’s contribution that day to make a record score! Kudos Hornets
Michael Jordan: Kobe Is Better Than LeBron

by 




















