Hawks/Bucks: Atlanta returns to Milwaukee for first time since game six
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The Bucks got a well-deserved holiday break following their wins over the Lakers and Kings, returning to the BC tonight looking to avoid a letdown against their old friends from Atlanta. The Hawks roll into town at a more-than-respectable 19-13, but their loss in New Orleans yesterday was their fifth straight road defeat after starting the season 8-3 away from Philips Arena.
Peachtree Hoops: Hawks update. Kris Willis has all the Hawk headlines from the weekend, which saw the return of Jamal Crawford (sore back) and a continuation of Atlanta's strange inability to get Al Horford the ball in fourth quarters. On the positive side, Josh Smith has five straight double-doubles and all of a sudden can make three pointers (22-55 on the season), though I'm hoping that the crippling boredom of Milwaukee (and Luc Mbah a Moute) can throw him off his game.
This is the Hawks' first game at the BC since crushing the Bucks (and their playoff hopes) 83-69 in game six of their first round playoff series, though the Bucks got a small token of revenge when they laid a surprise beatdown on the Hawks in Atlanta in November.
All-Star Bigs? Horford and Andrew Bogut are both making pretty compelling cases to back up Dwight Howard on the Eastern Conference all-star squad, but I'm not sure there will be room for both of them--especially with Amare Stoudemire seeing lots of small-ball center action in New York. Bogut has a clear edge on the defensive end, blocking three times as many shots (2.90 bpg vs. 0.91) and rebounding at a higher rate as well (11.4 rpg vs. 9.6), while Horford wins going away on the offensive end. The former Florida man is averaging 19.8 pts/40 on 60.7% true shooting and turns it over on just 8.0% of possessions, while Bogut is putting up 16.1 pts/40 on just 52.1% with an 11.4% turnover rate.
What's perhaps most impressive about Horford's game is how much damage he does on the perimeter. He's doubled the number of long jumpers he takes (from 2.2 to 4.5/game) while converting at an incredible 59% clip (85/145), best in the league among players with more than 35 attempts from that range. He's especially dangerous in pick & roll situations, ranking 6th in the league with 1.23 points per possession and making 63% of his shots--much of it on pick/pop action. In contrast, Bogut takes twice as many shots/game at the rim but has only taken eight shots outside of 10 feet all season (including three end-of-quarter Hail Marys), missing each and every one of them.
Injury report. Corey Maggette (concussion) isn't listed on the injury report, so presumably he will be available tonight after suiting up but not playing in Sacramento. Meanwhile, Drew Gooden (plantar fasciitis) is listed as questionable.
JS: Holiday schedule suits Bucks. While we normally complain about the Bucks' lack of national visibility, it turns out to be a very useful thing around the holidays. There were plenty of complaints from the ten teams that played on Christmas day, but the Bucks managed to have a nice break, flying into Milwaukee in the early morning hours on Friday and having both Christmas Eve and Christmas Day off to spend with their families. As Charles Gardner reports, that also provided a chance for Andrew Bogut and the Bucks to re-energize after a draining road trip that ended with a pair of much-needed wins.
"It’s a good time to get some rest, more than anything," he said. "These last two games, I didn’t feel good. So I utilized these last two days… I didn’t leave my house. Just rested and stayed off my legs and I felt much better today."So if you can use these (holidays) as a rest. The worse thing you want to be is on your legs shopping all day and going to Chicago and doing those things. I think if you get rest and be smart, you can really utilize these days.
"For some reason the road took a lot out of me. I didn’t feel my best and I tried to push through the last three games. We got two wins thankfully, and we had a couple days off now to get my legs back under me."
Rebounding struggles. A bit lost in the all the positivity of the Bucks' two wins in California were their sudden struggles on the glass, which Dan discussed earlier today. The Bucks were first in the league in defensive rebound rate after the San Antonio game, having snagged 78.4% of opponent misses through 24 games, a step up from the 76.4% they managed in 09/10 when they ranked third in the NBA. But Milwaukee struggled to keep the Jazz, Blazers, Lakers, and Magic from getting second chances, grabbing just 63% of opponent misses over the course of four games and 67% or less in each one. For some context, the Warriors are worst in the league with a 68.4% DReb%, so the Bucks' numbers over the past week have been straight-up awful.
So what gives? The Blazers, Kings and Lakers are all in the league's top five in offensive rebound rate, so competition certainly explains some of it (how the Bucks have been crushed on the boards in both games by the meek-rebounding Jazz is less obvious). The lack of energy Bogut referenced could also be part of it, and the absence of Gooden (2nd on the team with a 16.3% rebound rate) and Maggette (very good for an SF with 10.6%) don't help on the boards either.
Bucks through the lens of Bad Santa. Jeremy offers his take on the Bucks' naughty and nice. And speaking of naughty, it's been a tough week for Kobe Bryant, hasn't it?
JS: Bucks finding their comfort zone
The 09/10 Bucks were a likable bunch, but more importantly they seemed to really like each other. And while there were some grumblings about locker room issues a few weeks ago, Keyon Dooling says that's now in the rear view mirror.
"I think that was holding us back as far as camaraderie and cohesiveness on the team because if you have the new guys and the old guys, it's kind of separate," said veteran point guard Keyon Dooling. "But now, I just think that this is our team. This is who we have, and we're starting to jell."Coach holds us all accountable. We've got a lot of games under our belt. We've had some rough streaks. We've played our way out of it, and we don't want to look back."
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Kobe dropping the F-bomb on Boykins? Hahahahah
I find the thought that someone as fiery and intense as Kobe can allow Earl Boykins to get under his skin pretty funny.
For some reason I’m not very optimistic about this game, but…

"I'm not Nostradamus or anybody, so I don't know. Luckily, this is the worst injury I've had in my career so far."
- Drew Gooden, on the severity of his toe injury.
Oh, Josh...
Curious to see if Luc matches up more with JJ or Josh tonight…he was the only guy who could guard either one of them last spring.
by Frank Madden on Dec 27, 2010 4:45 PM CST up reply actions
Well, we don't have Delfino, so at least we can't see anymore of that ugly matchup...
"I'm not Nostradamus or anybody, so I don't know. Luckily, this is the worst injury I've had in my career so far."
- Drew Gooden, on the severity of his toe injury.
by Jacob Grinyer on Dec 27, 2010 6:38 PM CST up reply actions
hopefully the bucks
can take advantage of a tired team on the 2nd night of a back to back
"I would say my biggest flaw, my Achilles heel is my tireless work ethic"-Kenny Powers
Like they did against Utah and Portland(in Milwaukee)
But that being said, I still think they can beat the Hawks.
Chris Bosh said he's happy because he can get League Pass now in Miami. In Toronto, said he didn't have "the good cable."
+1
Really can’t complain where we are record-wise right now. If they can steal one more tough game in the next couple weeks they’ll have weathered the storm pretty well….that said, losing both tonight and tomorrow increases the degree of difficulty a fair bit.
by Frank Madden on Dec 27, 2010 6:37 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I asked Santa for the Bucks to split the next 2 - so I think we're in good shape.
A winning Dec. would be VERY sweet.
Agreed Frank, but ...
They gotta score the basketball. Combine that with careless turnovers ..Was last season a fluke? Did the stars aligh perfectly?
I got a kick out of seeing the top ten players in USG%
Kobe Bryant
Carmelo Anthony
LeBron James
Kevin Durant
Russell Westbrook
Derrick Rose
Amare Stoudemire
Dwyane Wade
Corey Maggette
Kevin Martin
"I'm not Nostradamus or anybody, so I don't know. Luckily, this is the worst injury I've had in my career so far."
- Drew Gooden, on the severity of his toe injury.
Bucks offense looks a bit sharper at the start
"I'm not Nostradamus or anybody, so I don't know. Luckily, this is the worst injury I've had in my career so far."
- Drew Gooden, on the severity of his toe injury.
Yeah...
Salmons, the king of crap passes, makes an appearance.
"I'm not Nostradamus or anybody, so I don't know. Luckily, this is the worst injury I've had in my career so far."
- Drew Gooden, on the severity of his toe injury.
by Jacob Grinyer on Dec 27, 2010 7:19 PM CST up reply actions
Always a great sign
"I'm not Nostradamus or anybody, so I don't know. Luckily, this is the worst injury I've had in my career so far."
- Drew Gooden, on the severity of his toe injury.
by Jacob Grinyer on Dec 27, 2010 7:27 PM CST up reply actions
Thank God we have Salmons locked up...
"I'm not Nostradamus or anybody, so I don't know. Luckily, this is the worst injury I've had in my career so far."
- Drew Gooden, on the severity of his toe injury.
He'll turn it around after the Bucks are mathematically eliminated from the playoffs.
by Brick's house on Dec 27, 2010 7:30 PM CST up reply actions
Heh
"I'm not Nostradamus or anybody, so I don't know. Luckily, this is the worst injury I've had in my career so far."
- Drew Gooden, on the severity of his toe injury.
by Jacob Grinyer on Dec 27, 2010 7:32 PM CST up reply actions
Rebounding is becoming an issue again
"I'm not Nostradamus or anybody, so I don't know. Luckily, this is the worst injury I've had in my career so far."
- Drew Gooden, on the severity of his toe injury.
All of Sanders misses are airballs
This is going to be a long game
"I'm not Nostradamus or anybody, so I don't know. Luckily, this is the worst injury I've had in my career so far."
- Drew Gooden, on the severity of his toe injury.
Offense? What did we talk about earlier today?
It’s laborious to watch
All season, my friend.
"I'm not Nostradamus or anybody, so I don't know. Luckily, this is the worst injury I've had in my career so far."
- Drew Gooden, on the severity of his toe injury.
by Jacob Grinyer on Dec 27, 2010 7:37 PM CST up reply actions
I wish we had an actual backup C.
Why didn’t Hammond go out and get one, again? Stupid, stupid.
"I'm not Nostradamus or anybody, so I don't know. Luckily, this is the worst injury I've had in my career so far."
- Drew Gooden, on the severity of his toe injury.
Substitutions
WHY does Skiles bench his starters EARLY and leave the subs in Toooo damn long? Shouldn’t you allow the starters a chance to establish a rhythm?
by CDR4Start on Dec 27, 2010 7:41 PM CST via mobile reply actions
I'm not denying that Skiles shouldn't have taken them out, but
I think there are bigger reasons for this hole we’ve dug…
"I'm not Nostradamus or anybody, so I don't know. Luckily, this is the worst injury I've had in my career so far."
- Drew Gooden, on the severity of his toe injury.
by Jacob Grinyer on Dec 27, 2010 7:51 PM CST up reply actions
Time to turn on the Saints-Falcons
I “might” be back guys. ….***sigh****
Lineups
It’s starting to seem as if Skiles just subs too much…and stays with the subs EVEN when they’re DOWN 14points…I’m turning the channel…so uninterested in this
by CDR4Start on Dec 27, 2010 7:53 PM CST via mobile reply actions
"Bucks basketball: Don't leave your remote too far from your chair"
"I'm not Nostradamus or anybody, so I don't know. Luckily, this is the worst injury I've had in my career so far."
- Drew Gooden, on the severity of his toe injury.
I’m baffled how we go from championship team beaters to Lookin like we’ve never practiced together as a team…Good Luck Bucks
by CDR4Start on Dec 27, 2010 7:55 PM CST via mobile reply actions
I love how Johnny Mac acts like the Hawks lead has nothing to do with the Bucks just being bad
"I'm not Nostradamus or anybody, so I don't know. Luckily, this is the worst injury I've had in my career so far."
- Drew Gooden, on the severity of his toe injury.
Jon Brockman with a beauty
"I'm not Nostradamus or anybody, so I don't know. Luckily, this is the worst injury I've had in my career so far."
- Drew Gooden, on the severity of his toe injury.
A lineup with Dooling and Boykins
Playin Long minutes AT THE SAME time will not win games, Earl has been hot 2games in a row but stop with this nonsense! the way we are using our personnel sucks, we’re Down 15. Wishing and hoping we make a shot. What happened to the lineup anyway?
by CDR4Start on Dec 27, 2010 8:09 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Ouch, tough half
Hawks hitting everything, we have 2 players only on offense.
Like having Brockman at PF, but we need something out of SF and SG.
Salmons needs to take 15 more shots tonight. I don’t care if he hits them or not, but he needs to remember he is a scoring wing.
Can’t be too hard on the Bucks, they have played some good games lately, but this one is pretty painful at present.
Horrible half indeed
Bogut is givin us what we need, Maggette was very productive in his minutes, John is well trying, and where do we go from there? I agree with Bucksnorge we need scoring from SG and SF badly. Anyone know why CDR played 4mins only?
by CDR4Start on Dec 27, 2010 8:21 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Not sure why the Hawks don't exploit the Smith/CDR matchup more
I’m not really sure why Skiles keeps trotting Chris out there expecting him to guard Josh, but as long as he stays outside we’re ok…
by Frank Madden on Dec 27, 2010 8:32 PM CST via mobile reply actions
I was just going to ask why we're matching up CDR with Dooling constantly.
"I'm not Nostradamus or anybody, so I don't know. Luckily, this is the worst injury I've had in my career so far."
- Drew Gooden, on the severity of his toe injury.
by Jacob Grinyer on Dec 27, 2010 8:34 PM CST up reply actions
Arrgh, Smith
"I'm not Nostradamus or anybody, so I don't know. Luckily, this is the worst injury I've had in my career so far."
- Drew Gooden, on the severity of his toe injury.
by Jacob Grinyer on Dec 27, 2010 8:35 PM CST up reply actions
Every time Horford takes that long jumper I never think he's going to miss
"I'm not Nostradamus or anybody, so I don't know. Luckily, this is the worst injury I've had in my career so far."
- Drew Gooden, on the severity of his toe injury.
Some terrible turnovers have really cost us
Good to see Salmons with some confidence, really need to go into this last quarter and execute!!!!
Funny that Michelle Leonard picked Luc to get the first basket of the period.
Even funnier that she won a TV, because Luc got that basket.
What can I say, the Bucks always look to get Luc going in the 4th...
"I'm not Nostradamus or anybody, so I don't know. Luckily, this is the worst injury I've had in my career so far."
- Drew Gooden, on the severity of his toe injury.
by Jacob Grinyer on Dec 27, 2010 8:54 PM CST up reply actions
He also seems to be comfortable letting players 5 inches smaller then him block him...
"I'm not Nostradamus or anybody, so I don't know. Luckily, this is the worst injury I've had in my career so far."
- Drew Gooden, on the severity of his toe injury.
by Jacob Grinyer on Dec 27, 2010 8:56 PM CST up reply actions
He took too long to gather himself, that allowed Teague back into the play.
by Brick's house on Dec 27, 2010 8:59 PM CST up reply actions
That pretty much killed off the Bucks
Would have gotten them to 6 down, instead Atlanta comes back goes back up 10.
by Frank Madden on Dec 27, 2010 9:51 PM CST up reply actions
we have just wasted the first 6 min of this quarter doing god knows what??
We would have been better off just having Salmons and Ilyasova jacking up 3’s
Offense is awful. Offense is awful. Offense is awful. Offense is awful.
Oh, sorry my Offense is awful key was stuck there. Must be from overuse.
Hahaha
"I'm not Nostradamus or anybody, so I don't know. Luckily, this is the worst injury I've had in my career so far."
- Drew Gooden, on the severity of his toe injury.
by Jacob Grinyer on Dec 27, 2010 9:12 PM CST up reply actions
Really glad I saw that game up close
Merry Christmas to me.
by Frank Madden on Dec 27, 2010 9:53 PM CST up reply actions
Why doesn't skiles top it off and put LRMAM and Brockman back in the game
Seems to suit Skiles style on offense
Exploit the SF matchup?
Actually I think CDR displayed some of the best defense on the team tonight for anyone NOT named Bogut, but he seems to be in the dog house now or either not looked at as a scoring option at all. Disappointing Loss
by CDR4Start on Dec 27, 2010 9:12 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Can we have Darnell Jackson back
"I'm not Nostradamus or anybody, so I don't know. Luckily, this is the worst injury I've had in my career so far."
- Drew Gooden, on the severity of his toe injury.
This season has just been a total disaster.
"I'm not Nostradamus or anybody, so I don't know. Luckily, this is the worst injury I've had in my career so far."
- Drew Gooden, on the severity of his toe injury.
The season hasn't become a total disaster *quite* yet
But the offense has been more than a disaster. I’m kind of amazed they even have 12 wins right now given the injuries/offense, etc.
by Frank Madden on Dec 27, 2010 9:54 PM CST up reply actions
True, should have added "so far"
This team is unpredictable. I expect us to play better tomorrow, I don’t know if we’ll win though.
"I'm not Nostradamus or anybody, so I don't know. Luckily, this is the worst injury I've had in my career so far."
- Drew Gooden, on the severity of his toe injury.
by Jacob Grinyer on Dec 27, 2010 10:00 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah, impossible to tell with this team
Disappointed with the lack of energy tonight, especially given they should have been the fresher team. Bogut just looked sluggish…he took a knock in the 1st but not sure if that had anything to do with it. Started 5/9, finished 2/10…
Might as well be starting Mbah a Moute given how much CD-R has struggled…could have used more Maggette too.
by Frank Madden on Dec 27, 2010 10:17 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah 0-3 is the end of the world for CDR
I’m not so sure he’s struggling or not being given opportunities to score as the announcers pointed out. He’s the last option on offense, often overlooked even when open. Never given the outlet pass where he thrives in transition as well as around the basket. His jumper Is off at the moment. But when you play 15mins and 3guys take 13,14,15 shots, it’s kinda hard to get in a rhythm. Or maybe he should do like the rest of the team, jack up as many shots as needed until they finally start falling
by CDR4Start on Dec 27, 2010 10:47 PM CST via mobile reply actions
so right.
I’m sure if we just had our offense revolve around cdr we would have won this…haha.
by rulesofredd on Dec 27, 2010 11:42 PM CST up reply actions
Division Leading Bulls next
Hope this is a case of “A Tale of two Teams” Bucks seem to play to the level of competition so we should show up for the Bulls, Hopefully. We need each game and our schedule isn’t getting any easier. 5 games under .500 isn’t where we expected to be. Better late than Never.
by CDR4Start on Dec 27, 2010 11:02 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Living in Tennesse right now, and this is the one game I get to see in person.
There were at least a half dozen face palm moments. Skiles should never have dooling and boykins in together.
Dooling is officially my least favorite player on the team. He does not add anything. He doesn’t create shots, he can’t hit shots, and he’s only slightly above average on defense. At the same time, Boykins looked pretty horrendous tonight.

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