Heat/Bucks: LeBron James leads streaking Miami into BC
by Frank Madden on Dec 6, 2010 5:30 PM CST
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On the Heat:
2010/2011 NBA Season
vs.
13-8 (3-5 road) 7-12 (5-4 home)
December 6, 2010
Bradley Center
7:00 PM
Radio: 620 WTMJ TV: FSN Wisconsin
Probable starters:
Carlos Arroyo
PG
Brandon Jennings
Dwyane Wade
SG
John Salmons
LeBron James
SF
Luc Mbah a Moute
Chris Bosh
PF
Larry Sanders
Zydrunas Ilgauskas
C
Andrew Bogut
(4th) 110.1 - OFFENSE - 100.0 (30th)
(2nd) 101.0 - DEFENSE - 101.8 (6th)
(20th) 91.0 - PACE - 91.0 (20th)
Peninsula is Mightier / Miami Herald
Two days after outlasting the injury-depleted Magic, the Bucks will look to make it two in a row over Floridian opponents when they get their first look at LeBron James in a Heat uniform.
Big Three shaping up. The criticism of the Heat coming into the season was that they lacked the depth to hang with the more balanced NBA elite, and so far they've beat up on sub-.500 squads (10-1) while struggling against teams with winning records (3-7). It still seems early to be worrying too much about a team that's essentially brand new, especially given the long-term injuries to Mike Miller and Udonis Haslem, but it's not like anyone was expecting them to be able to avoid the spotlight. On Saturday the Heat followed up their annihilation of the Cavs by dusting the Hawks 89-77 in Miami, their fourth straight win. James, Wade and Bosh combined for 75 of the Heat's 89 points, and for the season the trio is averaging 63.8 ppg.
D'ing up. Luc Mbah a Moute saw plenty of Wade and James in his first two NBA seasons, but never while playing for the same team. That means Luc will have the difficult task of containing James at the outset while John Salmons starts against Wade, though the Bucks can also take some solace in the fact that there's only one ball that the two superstars have to share. Miami has been among the league's best offenses thus far (4th in efficiency) and even better on the defensive end (2nd), and their league-best differential means they also have the highest expected winning percentage of any team in the league (.771) despite sporting just the 10th best actual winning percentage (.619).
Bogut vs. Z. The soft spot of the Heat defense would seem to be at center, where the slow-footed Zydrunas Ilgauskas has been splitting time with the undersized Joel Anthony, the recently acquired Erick Dampier and Jamaal Magloire. Al Horford made 10/11 shots on Saturday against the Heat, so the Bucks will be hoping to take similar advantage of the Heat up front. Bosh has also played a fair bit of center when paired with Haslem up front, but it seems like Bosh is mainly sticking to PF now that Haslem is hurt and Dampier has been brought on board.
Brandon Jennings and Andrew Bogut sliced up the Magic P&R defense a number of times on Saturday, so you'd have to think the Bucks will look to make Ilgauskas come out and defend on the perimeter early on. Jennings has often struggled to make quick decisions when teams double or show hard with their big men in P&R, so it was refreshing that he saw the entire court and passed so decisively against Orlando. The fact that the Magic's other defenders didn't offer much help when Bogut came steaming down the lane also simplified things, though Bogut's 13 made field goals came in all shapes and sizes.
The 7'3" lgauskas is tougher to shoot over down low, so ideally the Bucks will also try to get Bogut the ball on the move--we all know he likes catching at the top and driving left, which he used a couple times against Marcin Gortat on Saturday. Anthony is the opposite of Ilgauskas in many ways, a more mobile weakside shot-blocker who doesn't have the size to bang down low.
Dooling getting the point? Jim Paschke and Jon McGlocklin mentioned during Saturday's broadcast that Keyon Dooling has played much better at point guard than at off guard, though I didn't get around to looking up the numbers until Victor mentioned it in the post-game comments. Via 82games, his shooting differential is pretty amazing: Dooling's eFG% is an excellent 56.3% eFG at PG (12% of available team minutes) but a terrible 27.1% eFG at SG (20% of available min). The flip side is that his defense has been notably better at the 2, though opponent stats are always worth taking with a grain of salt. Thankfully, the return of Chris Douglas-Roberts has meant Skiles has bench options other than Dooling at the 2.
Bogut/Sanders. Andrew Bogut and Larry Sanders are the Bucks' two best shot-blockers, but they hadn't played a minute of regular season action together until starting alongside each other on Saturday. Sanders was fairly quiet offensively with four points and four boards in 12 minutes, but the fact that he outscored Rashard Lewis when they were matched up made it a very successful night. Rightly or wrongly, I doubt Skiles would start Sanders ahead of a healthy Drew Gooden at PF at this point, but it'll be a moot point so long as Gooden is sidelined by plantar fasciitis. A Sanders vs. Bosh matchup on Monday would make for a stern test of Sanders' progress as a defender, though Bogut has also defended Bosh in the past.
Speaking of Bogut's defense, his 82games splits paint a rather remarkable picture of his defensive performance thus far. We all know about his shot-blocking, but opposing centers have been completely ineffective against Bogut thus far, shooting just 33.1% eFG and posting an awful 5.9 PER and 9.8 points per 48 minutes. Those numbers are through 11/29, so they don't even include Marcin Gortat's forgettable Saturday night either: 35 min, 1/4 fg, 2 pts, 10 rebs, 6 pf.
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The enemy is in sight....
"I'm not Nostradamus or anybody, so I don't know. Luckily, this is the worst injury I've had in my career so far."
- Drew Gooden, on the severity of his toe injury.
by Jacob Grinyer on Dec 5, 2010 10:15 PM CST reply actions 2 recs
Sanders-Bogut
I’m going to put the over/under at 8 blocks collectively between our frontline. If Jennings can take advantage of Arroyo, I think we win. I really like this matchup.
Chicks Dig The Long Ball.
id like a matchup with the nets better
"The problem …is that young players, by their nature, always make mistakes. Always. Losing teams with a future in mind can just trot out the kids and let them learn on the job, and if they make mistakes so what, they aren’t going anywhere."
~Erick Blasco
A victory tonite would go a long way to help ease the pain of the Minn/Cle/Det/Phi losses
A VERY long way ; )
my heart just skipped 500 beats reading that
That," says LeBron, "is for everyone that watches me play. They witness something special. You're all a witness.
The Heat r more lucky than anything else as they have faced nothing but scrubs so far. I hope the Bucks beat them to show the world what frauds the Heat really r.
by Jeffrey Thompson on Dec 6, 2010 12:35 PM CST reply actions
Would have to disagree.
They’re going to still be a very good team once they get it all together.
"I'm not Nostradamus or anybody, so I don't know. Luckily, this is the worst injury I've had in my career so far."
- Drew Gooden, on the severity of his toe injury.
by Jacob Grinyer on Dec 6, 2010 3:24 PM CST up reply actions
beating the scrubs is what you have to do in this league....take care of them and your half way to the play offs
That," says LeBron, "is for everyone that watches me play. They witness something special. You're all a witness.
Heat Fan here
Cant wait to play u guys… BJ (The best player in the 09 draft hands down) is my favorite PG in the NBA 3rd favorite player. Excited to see see him play us i know he’ll have a big game because we have no PG to stop him wont be surprised if i see a little Wade on him tonight
* All i Want For Christmas is A Quaterback... *
------------------Whose Consistent------------------
Interesting matchup given the teams' respective strengths
Bucks rely on Jennings/Bogut, while the Heat’s only weak links are PG/C. I don’t think PG is much of an issue given Wade/James need the ball all the time (though you’d probably prefer a more athletic guy on defense than Arroyo), but center is where you could see more of an issue. Need Bogut to at last control the boards, and ideally score out of the post as well.
So what's the hubbaloo about this Heat team
"I'm not Nostradamus or anybody, so I don't know. Luckily, this is the worst injury I've had in my career so far."
- Drew Gooden, on the severity of his toe injury.
Ownage.
"I'm not Nostradamus or anybody, so I don't know. Luckily, this is the worst injury I've had in my career so far."
- Drew Gooden, on the severity of his toe injury.
by Jacob Grinyer on Dec 6, 2010 7:13 PM CST up reply actions
Wow, I can't believe Larry shot that
He normally has such great vision when he puts the ball on the court…
Good lord LeBron
"I'm not Nostradamus or anybody, so I don't know. Luckily, this is the worst injury I've had in my career so far."
- Drew Gooden, on the severity of his toe injury.
Mmmmm not the best start....
"I'm not Nostradamus or anybody, so I don't know. Luckily, this is the worst injury I've had in my career so far."
- Drew Gooden, on the severity of his toe injury.
Has Bogut ever made that jumper?
He can never seem to put in those short little set jumpers.
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The rim is not kind
What are we, like 2-5 at the rim already?
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Our team looks unbelievably nonathletic compared to them
"I'm not Nostradamus or anybody, so I don't know. Luckily, this is the worst injury I've had in my career so far."
- Drew Gooden, on the severity of his toe injury.
Although I'm sure most teams do
But us especially
"I'm not Nostradamus or anybody, so I don't know. Luckily, this is the worst injury I've had in my career so far."
- Drew Gooden, on the severity of his toe injury.
by Jacob Grinyer on Dec 6, 2010 7:21 PM CST up reply actions
What the hell ever happened to Jamaal Magloire?
Talk about rapid deterioration.
That happens with Bucks players
Bobby Simmons can attest
"I'm not Nostradamus or anybody, so I don't know. Luckily, this is the worst injury I've had in my career so far."
- Drew Gooden, on the severity of his toe injury.
by Jacob Grinyer on Dec 6, 2010 7:26 PM CST up reply actions
Bogut makes a FT
End the game right here
"I'm not Nostradamus or anybody, so I don't know. Luckily, this is the worst injury I've had in my career so far."
- Drew Gooden, on the severity of his toe injury.
Every pass has to be perfect
These guys are so quick to the ball, every little pass needs to be right on the money for the play to have a chance. Those interior passes are getting broken up.
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Really wish we had Delfino
It sounds like a broken record, but…
"I'm not Nostradamus or anybody, so I don't know. Luckily, this is the worst injury I've had in my career so far."
- Drew Gooden, on the severity of his toe injury.
by Jacob Grinyer on Dec 6, 2010 7:28 PM CST up reply actions
Btw, why wasn't that continuation?
You think they would have called it the same way on the other end?
Can't afford to miss
"I'm not Nostradamus or anybody, so I don't know. Luckily, this is the worst injury I've had in my career so far."
- Drew Gooden, on the severity of his toe injury.
by Jacob Grinyer on Dec 6, 2010 7:31 PM CST up reply actions
Bad things
"I'm not Nostradamus or anybody, so I don't know. Luckily, this is the worst injury I've had in my career so far."
- Drew Gooden, on the severity of his toe injury.
by Jacob Grinyer on Dec 6, 2010 7:34 PM CST up reply actions
Bucks probably need either Sanders or Bogut in the game at all times
Somebody with a vague chance of defending the rim…
by Frank Madden on Dec 6, 2010 7:35 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
More Maggette Plz
"I'm not Nostradamus or anybody, so I don't know. Luckily, this is the worst injury I've had in my career so far."
- Drew Gooden, on the severity of his toe injury.
that fast break
holy crap, that was impressive
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LBJ and Big Z in early foul trouble
Nice first quarter by the Bucks, keeping it close early
* All i Want For Christmas is A Quaterback... *
------------------Whose Consistent------------------
Sprewell?
Shouldn’t he be finding his yacht or choking a coach?
"I'm not Nostradamus or anybody, so I don't know. Luckily, this is the worst injury I've had in my career so far."
- Drew Gooden, on the severity of his toe injury.
Milwaukee celeb Sprewell in the crowd.
I thought he was broke because of all those kids. How can he afford front row seats.
+1
"I'm not Nostradamus or anybody, so I don't know. Luckily, this is the worst injury I've had in my career so far."
- Drew Gooden, on the severity of his toe injury.
by Jacob Grinyer on Dec 6, 2010 7:41 PM CST up reply actions
Not too bad so far dudes
Would loooooove to beat these guys!!!
He got one to go on Dampier.
He seems to have fallen in love with that fade away in the post.
by Brick's house on Dec 6, 2010 7:45 PM CST up reply actions
These push calls never look like actual pushes
"I'm not Nostradamus or anybody, so I don't know. Luckily, this is the worst injury I've had in my career so far."
- Drew Gooden, on the severity of his toe injury.
We should emphasize trying to get our shots to hit the rim.
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And heck, even the bottom of the net might be nice
"I'm not Nostradamus or anybody, so I don't know. Luckily, this is the worst injury I've had in my career so far."
- Drew Gooden, on the severity of his toe injury.
by Jacob Grinyer on Dec 6, 2010 7:47 PM CST up reply actions
We wasted probably one of the few opportunities to get momentum that we're going to get
"I'm not Nostradamus or anybody, so I don't know. Luckily, this is the worst injury I've had in my career so far."
- Drew Gooden, on the severity of his toe injury.
How long is Skiles gonna commit to playing bench?
Seems starters should be getting all the minutes they can against Heat.
Mags got fouled
Would’ve been called on other end
"I'm not Nostradamus or anybody, so I don't know. Luckily, this is the worst injury I've had in my career so far."
- Drew Gooden, on the severity of his toe injury.
It's been great for what I expected, just not that call
"I'm not Nostradamus or anybody, so I don't know. Luckily, this is the worst injury I've had in my career so far."
- Drew Gooden, on the severity of his toe injury.
by Jacob Grinyer on Dec 6, 2010 7:51 PM CST up reply actions
They should stop cherry picking
Or we should defend it.
Either way.
My first thought when he took that: WTF
"I'm not Nostradamus or anybody, so I don't know. Luckily, this is the worst injury I've had in my career so far."
- Drew Gooden, on the severity of his toe injury.
by Jacob Grinyer on Dec 6, 2010 7:51 PM CST up reply actions
Fixed
Offense has been putrid the whole year
"I'm not Nostradamus or anybody, so I don't know. Luckily, this is the worst injury I've had in my career so far."
- Drew Gooden, on the severity of his toe injury.
by Jacob Grinyer on Dec 6, 2010 7:56 PM CST up reply actions
Man Skiles offense is absolutely horrid to watch
"I'm not Nostradamus or anybody, so I don't know. Luckily, this is the worst injury I've had in my career so far."
- Drew Gooden, on the severity of his toe injury.
Miami's defense is great
But our offense is total Sh*t as it is. Times like these I miss Charlie Bell. At least we could stick him in the corner for 3s….
"I'm not Nostradamus or anybody, so I don't know. Luckily, this is the worst injury I've had in my career so far."
- Drew Gooden, on the severity of his toe injury.
by Jacob Grinyer on Dec 6, 2010 8:03 PM CST up reply actions
BAHAHAHA I will never miss Charlie Bell. Ever.
Seriously, there has to be someone in the D-League that can shoot.
Warriors find one every year, like Anthony Morrow and Reggie Williams.
"BAHAHAHA I will never miss Charlie Bell. Ever."
I’ll miss anyone that’s able to knock down an open jumper at this point.
"I'm not Nostradamus or anybody, so I don't know. Luckily, this is the worst injury I've had in my career so far."
- Drew Gooden, on the severity of his toe injury.
by Jacob Grinyer on Dec 6, 2010 8:06 PM CST up reply actions
No, Speedy said he misses anyone who can knock down a jumper.
by Brick's house on Dec 6, 2010 8:08 PM CST up reply actions
Twice last year? :)
"I'm not Nostradamus or anybody, so I don't know. Luckily, this is the worst injury I've had in my career so far."
- Drew Gooden, on the severity of his toe injury.
by Jacob Grinyer on Dec 6, 2010 8:09 PM CST up reply actions
Give Heat defense credit
Miami’s defense is far and away the most underrated part of their game, but this is just ridiculous. At first it was kind of comical to watch Salmons play, now if just makes me mad.
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Bizzare thing is, we brought in CDR and Maggette for their offense,
but they seem to have regressed in their efficiency, especially Maggette, within the Bucks offense.
Why are we so afraid to take shots when they're open?
Someone will be open on the three point line and will give the Heat time to recover and close out.
"I'm not Nostradamus or anybody, so I don't know. Luckily, this is the worst injury I've had in my career so far."
- Drew Gooden, on the severity of his toe injury.
Confidence? Insistence on ball movement?
The atrocious shooting this team has put up is now defying most scientific explanations.
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We could be down 30
I’m not convinced we can come back from this, but at least the game won’t be completely over by halftime.
+1
And I mean that in the most negative way possible….
"I'm not Nostradamus or anybody, so I don't know. Luckily, this is the worst injury I've had in my career so far."
- Drew Gooden, on the severity of his toe injury.
by Jacob Grinyer on Dec 6, 2010 8:11 PM CST up reply actions
I like how Chalmers had two seconds in the quarter and didn't even think about heaving it
Classic Redd move…more concerned with fg% than taking a free shot
Especially with the terrible luck the Bucks have had at the end of quarters this year
"I'm not Nostradamus or anybody, so I don't know. Luckily, this is the worst injury I've had in my career so far."
- Drew Gooden, on the severity of his toe injury.
by Jacob Grinyer on Dec 6, 2010 8:14 PM CST up reply actions
I'll go ahead and say that Brian Skinner = Erick Dampier.
Dampier looks slow as hell.
It would be nice to go on a quick 6-0 run to ignite this crowd.
If the crowd is actually ignitable today….
The upper deck is pretty sparse
"I'm not Nostradamus or anybody, so I don't know. Luckily, this is the worst injury I've had in my career so far."
- Drew Gooden, on the severity of his toe injury.
by Jacob Grinyer on Dec 6, 2010 8:18 PM CST up reply actions
Ticket brokers probably snagged up all the tickets and charged ridiculous prices for them.
Priced out the average fan.
by Brick's house on Dec 6, 2010 8:19 PM CST up reply actions
Having seen only 1 full game (Celtics on ESPN) and parts of others online
Is Larry Sanders taking 8 shots in 14 minutes defensible?
It was in summer league, regular season, not so much.
by Brick's house on Dec 6, 2010 8:20 PM CST up reply actions
probably has something to do with his lack of strength shooting in traffic, too.
by Brick's house on Dec 6, 2010 8:23 PM CST up reply actions
To be fair
I have never not enjoyed one of his turnarounds.
It's probably pretty easy to defend, really
Watch, turn, rebound.
I never use a big word when a diminutive word would suffice.
We know that Miami can be mentally suspect
But we need to make some plays, keep the pressure on them
Jennings had a curiously quiet first half considering the advantages he was supposed to have over Miami.
He and Bogut both need to step it up in the 2nd half.
by Brick's house on Dec 6, 2010 8:21 PM CST up reply actions
Agreed
A few more offensive rebounds for Bogut. Jennings likes to think he belongs in the league elite, these are the games where he needs to show it.
Maybe we should sign Stackhouse again
Can’t get much worse, right?
"I'm not Nostradamus or anybody, so I don't know. Luckily, this is the worst injury I've had in my career so far."
- Drew Gooden, on the severity of his toe injury.
We could probably end up owing half of the league money.
Just keep signing and waiving players until something clicks. Are there rules against that? There are probably rules against that.
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San Antonio has been signing and waiving a bunch of guys this year.
They have a rotating door on their 12th man position.
by Brick's house on Dec 6, 2010 8:25 PM CST up reply actions
Let's just hold American Idol-esq Auditions
"I'm not Nostradamus or anybody, so I don't know. Luckily, this is the worst injury I've had in my career so far."
- Drew Gooden, on the severity of his toe injury.
by Jacob Grinyer on Dec 6, 2010 8:26 PM CST up reply actions
Have Maggette and Salmons ever been good in the same game?
Salmons has been good like twice all season, so I’m guessing not…
Random question
Whatever happened to Lynn Greer?
I never use a big word when a diminutive word would suffice.
Don't make me remember those Marshfield clinic commercials
"I'm not Nostradamus or anybody, so I don't know. Luckily, this is the worst injury I've had in my career so far."
- Drew Gooden, on the severity of his toe injury.
by Jacob Grinyer on Dec 6, 2010 8:29 PM CST up reply actions
What i want to see:
Jennings/Salmons/Maggette/Ersan/Bogut/
Please make this the starting lineup.
"I'm not Nostradamus or anybody, so I don't know. Luckily, this is the worst injury I've had in my career so far."
- Drew Gooden, on the severity of his toe injury.
I like to think of myself as a generous person sometimes....
"I'm not Nostradamus or anybody, so I don't know. Luckily, this is the worst injury I've had in my career so far."
- Drew Gooden, on the severity of his toe injury.
by Jacob Grinyer on Dec 6, 2010 8:34 PM CST up reply actions
hmmmmm, ice cream.
Damn, that sounds good right now.
by Brick's house on Dec 6, 2010 8:36 PM CST up reply actions
Was that a highlight worthy offensive play?
By the Bucks? What did Skiles put in their coffee?
"I'm not Nostradamus or anybody, so I don't know. Luckily, this is the worst injury I've had in my career so far."
- Drew Gooden, on the severity of his toe injury.
Slow down Jennings
"I'm not Nostradamus or anybody, so I don't know. Luckily, this is the worst injury I've had in my career so far."
- Drew Gooden, on the severity of his toe injury.
Wow I change over to college reading and I turn the game back on and we are within 6?
What happened?
Boggles the mind how much we rely on Salmons on offense
Makes me want to gouge my eyes out with a rusty spoon
"I'm not Nostradamus or anybody, so I don't know. Luckily, this is the worst injury I've had in my career so far."
- Drew Gooden, on the severity of his toe injury.
Oh God Fish
You’ve really outdone yourself. Epic, epic, epic facepalm
"I'm not Nostradamus or anybody, so I don't know. Luckily, this is the worst injury I've had in my career so far."
- Drew Gooden, on the severity of his toe injury.
and if there is a lockout, the Bucks won't have to pay his highest single season salary of the contract.
by Brick's house on Dec 6, 2010 8:44 PM CST up reply actions
Should we have a countdown on the side of the site like the Raptors blog with Hedo?
"I'm not Nostradamus or anybody, so I don't know. Luckily, this is the worst injury I've had in my career so far."
- Drew Gooden, on the severity of his toe injury.
by Jacob Grinyer on Dec 6, 2010 8:45 PM CST up reply actions
My only conclusion
Is that Skiles just sucks coaching offense. That’s my conclusion until I can be convinced otherwise.
"I'm not Nostradamus or anybody, so I don't know. Luckily, this is the worst injury I've had in my career so far."
- Drew Gooden, on the severity of his toe injury.
The Bucks just need an offensive coordinator for an assistant.
Skiles can focus on defense, let his assistant run the offense.
by Brick's house on Dec 6, 2010 8:50 PM CST up reply actions
Right on Speed Man
My brother and I have been saying that all year. They look anemic.
by tommyr on Dec 6, 2010 10:04 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
On the plus side
That was probably the best change-of-pace move we’ve seen from Brandon this year. WE CAN BUILD ON THIS!
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"I'm not Nostradamus or anybody, so I don't know. Luckily, this is the worst injury I've had in my career so far."
- Drew Gooden, on the severity of his toe injury.
by Jacob Grinyer on Dec 6, 2010 8:53 PM CST up reply actions
If I were LeBron's coach I'd find it hard not to slap him
With all of his skills he should never take those threes. Making them just reinforces the bad.
If he's hitting that jumper consistently we're doomed anyway
"I'm not Nostradamus or anybody, so I don't know. Luckily, this is the worst injury I've had in my career so far."
- Drew Gooden, on the severity of his toe injury.
by Jacob Grinyer on Dec 6, 2010 8:56 PM CST up reply actions
Why can't we create more open threes in the corner like that?
"I'm not Nostradamus or anybody, so I don't know. Luckily, this is the worst injury I've had in my career so far."
- Drew Gooden, on the severity of his toe injury.
FREE COREY MAGGETTE
Anyone want to buy the domain name?
"I'm not Nostradamus or anybody, so I don't know. Luckily, this is the worst injury I've had in my career so far."
- Drew Gooden, on the severity of his toe injury.
by Jacob Grinyer on Dec 6, 2010 9:01 PM CST up reply actions
Stop shooting Dooling
Frank, needless to say, Dooling has an inflated sense of his shooting abilities. Play D and distribue the rock.
by tommyr on Dec 6, 2010 10:08 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I read some Cavs fan saying that Maggette has done a good job on LeBron in the past
I’m guessing because of his size and athleticism.
"I'm not Nostradamus or anybody, so I don't know. Luckily, this is the worst injury I've had in my career so far."
- Drew Gooden, on the severity of his toe injury.
by Jacob Grinyer on Dec 6, 2010 9:08 PM CST up reply actions
Has Brockman even played?
So THAT’S why we’re losing….
"I'm not Nostradamus or anybody, so I don't know. Luckily, this is the worst injury I've had in my career so far."
- Drew Gooden, on the severity of his toe injury.
yeah, Brockman on Bosh, that is the match up we need.
by Brick's house on Dec 6, 2010 9:06 PM CST up reply actions
LOL
"I'm not Nostradamus or anybody, so I don't know. Luckily, this is the worst injury I've had in my career so far."
- Drew Gooden, on the severity of his toe injury.
by Jacob Grinyer on Dec 6, 2010 9:06 PM CST up reply actions
Spoelstra was giving the ref the most vicious death stare I've ever seen
"I'm not Nostradamus or anybody, so I don't know. Luckily, this is the worst injury I've had in my career so far."
- Drew Gooden, on the severity of his toe injury.
Ummmm
Ersan should have had free throws on the O foul right? they have 7 team fouls now in the 4th
That Dunk wasn't meant to be
"I'm not Nostradamus or anybody, so I don't know. Luckily, this is the worst injury I've had in my career so far."
- Drew Gooden, on the severity of his toe injury.
Bucks don't understand what it means to b in the penalty
Drive the F’n ball
Maggette got the offensive foul, but at least he hurt Lebron.
We know how much injuries get under his skin. He was just sucking his thumb.
Awww, The queen hurt his wittle thumb
"I'm not Nostradamus or anybody, so I don't know. Luckily, this is the worst injury I've had in my career so far."
- Drew Gooden, on the severity of his toe injury.
by Jacob Grinyer on Dec 6, 2010 9:19 PM CST up reply actions
We HAVE to get better on offense this year, right?
RIGHT? PLEASE GOD I NEED HELP HERE
"I'm not Nostradamus or anybody, so I don't know. Luckily, this is the worst injury I've had in my career so far."
- Drew Gooden, on the severity of his toe injury.
His game against Atlanta was pretty darn good
"I'm not Nostradamus or anybody, so I don't know. Luckily, this is the worst injury I've had in my career so far."
- Drew Gooden, on the severity of his toe injury.
by Jacob Grinyer on Dec 6, 2010 9:19 PM CST up reply actions
This is Skiles best game coaching Maggette
Cuz its the first time i’ve seen him start the fourth quarter and the Bucks have had the Heat in the penalty since the 9 or 8 minute mark. Now they just need to draw some fouls
As a matter of fact, they've been in the double bonus
SInce the 7 minute mark
We're just a bad team. We have exactly one good shooter and he is injured.
We hold the Heat under 100 points and our offense turns to shit. The Heat have no interior defense and Bogut only has 9 points? This team is destined to finish in fourth place in the Central.
by ThroughBeingCool on Dec 6, 2010 9:24 PM CST reply actions
Salmons looks extremely depressed on the bench
"I'm not Nostradamus or anybody, so I don't know. Luckily, this is the worst injury I've had in my career so far."
- Drew Gooden, on the severity of his toe injury.
isn't that just how he always looks?
by ThroughBeingCool on Dec 6, 2010 9:27 PM CST up reply actions
Not really
"I'm not Nostradamus or anybody, so I don't know. Luckily, this is the worst injury I've had in my career so far."
- Drew Gooden, on the severity of his toe injury.
by Jacob Grinyer on Dec 6, 2010 9:29 PM CST up reply actions
It's impairing his basketball ability!
"I'm not Nostradamus or anybody, so I don't know. Luckily, this is the worst injury I've had in my career so far."
- Drew Gooden, on the severity of his toe injury.
by Jacob Grinyer on Dec 6, 2010 9:33 PM CST up reply actions
Again, I blame Skiles
Although, its better that he started Mags in the fourth, he needs to tell his team to start going to the rim after they are in the penalty. Should have called time out after he saw 2 jump shots in a row and shut that down.
Hammond needs to make a trade for someone who can create on offense and shoot the ball.
I honestly think someone like Iguadola or Granger would help this team.
but I also could be thinking that because I’m extremely frustrated by this team. haha
by ThroughBeingCool on Dec 6, 2010 9:35 PM CST reply actions
Again, the Bucks acquired Gooden, Maggette and CDR to upgrade the offense.
Iggy wouldn’t shoot straight for the Bucks either, and Granger is definitely not on the market.
by Brick's house on Dec 6, 2010 9:37 PM CST up reply actions
neither of them is a shooter tho
They need to make a trade for Luke Ridnour
Iguadala looks lost in the new Sixers outfit, i have been watching him and they don't even really
run any offense thru him, he goes long stretches without touching the ball, I would still love him on that Iso play instead of Salmons thats for sure.
Iggy isn't the best shooter, but he can create on offense a lot better than anyone on the Bucks.
again I’m just letting my frustration speak haha
by ThroughBeingCool on Dec 6, 2010 9:43 PM CST reply actions
How many regular season games have the Bucks played with full complement of players, excluding Redd?
I say the Bucks wait for Gooden to get back, let CDR continue to make adjustments to his game coming off that eye injury, and allow Bogut time to figure how to play with a bad elbow.
We still haven’t seen this Bucks team at full power.
by Brick's house on Dec 6, 2010 9:45 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
I have a fear that Bogut is playing hurt more then he's letting on, and as the season goes it will only get worse
"I'm not Nostradamus or anybody, so I don't know. Luckily, this is the worst injury I've had in my career so far."
- Drew Gooden, on the severity of his toe injury.
by Jacob Grinyer on Dec 6, 2010 9:46 PM CST up reply actions
Having a hard time reading between the lines, was that sarcasm?
by Brick's house on Dec 6, 2010 9:50 PM CST up reply actions
He Rec'd it, so I don't think so
"I'm not Nostradamus or anybody, so I don't know. Luckily, this is the worst injury I've had in my career so far."
- Drew Gooden, on the severity of his toe injury.
by Jacob Grinyer on Dec 6, 2010 9:51 PM CST up reply actions
What's wrong with the Bucks
Obviously, offense. Our issues:
1. Not enough low-post touches by Bogut. Our offense
Will improve only when they run the O through him.
2. Not enough athleticism – This is an athletic league.
3. More shot attempts for Bogut, Salmons, Jennings – fewer for hacks such as Dooling, Ersan, etc..
4. More isolation – too much working the ball around that three-point circle.
by tommyr on Dec 6, 2010 9:59 PM CST via mobile reply actions
The irony is that they're doing a much better job getting to the line
But they’ve been bad from every spot on the floor…worst finishing in the league, nothing consistent from three, and every area in between they’re among the worst.
Bogut is tough because he needs to catch deep or get the ball on the move when the defense isn’t set…when the other team starts fronting or pushing him off the block he tends to disappear offensively.
by Frank Madden on Dec 6, 2010 10:14 PM CST up reply actions
Skiles is to blame for some of that, Frank
He has Bogut setting picks a the top of the key, with Sanders standing at the three-point line. No wonder that, when a shot goes up and misses, we got nobody under the boards. Skiles’ offense is awful. I am beginning to think that he ONLY knows defense.
fewer for hacks, you are so right but I include Salmons in that bunch
he looked like he was trying to prove he could hang with the big boys and was forcing things, I still blame Skiles for running the offense thru him even when he is struggling and going against a good defender????
#5 - No superstar
It’s clear in today’s NBA that you probably need one to win it all. And sadly, with three being on ONE team now, the likelihoodfor others to get one is remote (not to mention that certian cities will NEVER be in the unning for one, unless they get lucky enough to “draft” one).
Some of the fouls called on behalf of D. Wade last night were perposterous. Our guys are getting knocked down routinely, and very few calls. This is the aspect of the NBA that I despise, and sadly, might make me stop watching altogether. It’s David Stern’s Joke.
If only...
The Bucks could shoot! They went like 5 minutes in the fourth without Bogut even touching the ball down low.
Arroyo and Jones hitting 5 of 6 3pt attempts didn't help the cause when we had
Jennings and Salmons and Dooling and Ilysova throwing straight BRICKS, combined 8 for 36
You tell me how you win a game against anybody with four of your main rotation guys converting at that rate???
Yes
I don’t think he’ll ever be a star, but I’d be surprised if he didn’t develop into a very useful 4/5. Defensively he acquitted himself well against both Bosh and Rashard Lewis, which speaks to the versatility he has due to his quickness and length. And glad Skiles is giving him run with Bogut and the starters.
by Frank Madden on Dec 6, 2010 10:27 PM CST up reply actions
you don't think he can work himself into an all star caliber guy?
I kept looking at him guarding Bosh and thinking to myself there are a lot of similarities between the two of them, physically they looked like mirror images
Bosh rookie year he averaged 11.5 pts 7.4 reb 1.6 blk on .459 FG%
that was with averaging 33 min a night
Disagree About Sanders Potential
Yeah, I don’t think there is any reason to doubt Sanders could be a great player. All-Star maybe not, but I can see him definitely being better than say…Josh Smith, Ben Wallace, Kenyon Martin, Emeka Okafor, etc which are some of the better shot blockers of the last decade. I don’t know how many of them have been All-Stars, but Sanders is taller and has a bigger wingspan than all of them, he has the athleticism and size to be as good or better than all of them on D and has a better offensive game than most of them already.
I think his likely scenario is a bigger Josh Smith, which is great b/c Josh Smith is an undersized PF and that is one of his biggest weaknesses. Sanders cures that deficiency and exceeds it.
Sanders' offense makes me cringe
Yeah he has all the tools, he needs to be able to use them though.
"I'm not Nostradamus or anybody, so I don't know. Luckily, this is the worst injury I've had in my career so far."
- Drew Gooden, on the severity of his toe injury.
by Jacob Grinyer on Dec 7, 2010 6:46 AM CST up reply actions
One more thought, I really wish that Jennings flush attempt when he drove baseline
would have stayed down for him, cuz I think he needs to do that more, just explode to the hoop and try and flush it, instead of trying to get cute with the ball. Doubt he’ll try another half court dunk again though
He only dunks off two feet
Which means he’s pretty much never going to have enough space/time to gather himself off two feet in halfcourt. Compare to guys like Westbrook/Rose who can power off one foot…much easier to dunk that way.
by Frank Madden on Dec 6, 2010 10:29 PM CST up reply actions
salmons sucks
am i the ONLY 1 that knows this?? how long will we suffer losses while force feeding johnny? how many times does CDR have 2 outplay him in less than HALF of the mins given 2 Johnny? what starting SG consistently gones 1-11, 2-11, 2-14, etc…AND KEEPS his job? wtf is goin on? START CDR!
salmons sucks pt2
i was actually happy we acquired CDR…but what a waste of talent if skiles doesnt let him flourish…heres an idea: try running the isolations and screens for CDR and compare the numbers afterwards…salmons shoots us OUT OF GAMES, and we continue to run O thru him….the ship is sinking
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