Report: Bulls dealing Salmons to Milwaukee for expiring deals
ESPN's Chad Ford (and pretty much everyone else) is reporting that the Bulls are shipping John Salmons up I-94. Salmons (owed $6.429 million this year) was left at the team hotel tonight while the Bulls were in New York, sparking a flurry of speculation about where he'd end up. Houston? Memphis? San Antonio?
In the end it appears the Bucks' offer of expiring deals was the best the Bulls could do, though there's a bit of disagreement over who the Bucks are sending to Chicago. Pretty much everyone concurs it will be two players, with Kurt Thomas ($3.8 million) and Francisco Elson ($1.7 million) pegged by Ford to offer some big man depth while Joakim Noah is out. However, Hakim Warrick ($3 million) could also be included instead of Elson, which would likely be preferable from a Bulls' perspective. Joe Alexander would be another option, though I don't think he's been mentioned by anyone thus far. There's also been some rumors the deal could be expanded tomorrow, so perhaps the Bucks are still pursuing Bulls' PF Tyrus Thomas as well.
[Update 1: K.C. Johnson in Chicago writes that it'll be either Thomas/Elson or Warrick/Alexander]
[Update 2: Charles Gardner writes Alexander and Warrick are headed to Chicago. Not too surprising given Alexander has been rotting in Fort Wayne while Warrick's minutes have been only scattered of late]
The Bulls have been desperate to move Salmons in order to clear more cap space for a run at a max contract free agent (read: Dwyane Wade) this summer, while the Bucks have been looking to add talent for a playoff push. So on the surface this deal seems to make sense for both teams. Salmons is owed a tolerable $5.81 million next year but has an early-termination option this summer, meaning he could become a free agent and seek a multi-year deal in advance of the CBA's expiration in 2011. But while the Bulls didn't want to risk Salmons sticking around and messing up their cap space, the Bucks are in cap no man's land next year. Above the cap but below the luxury tax, they've been a popular team to talk to if you're a GM looking to clear 2010 cap space.
Aside from the cap motivations, Salmons' play has also fallen off a bit from his solid performances of the past couple seasons, making him expendable just a year after his acquisition from Sacramento helped key the Bulls' playoff run. After averaging 19.5 pts/40 minutes on 58.0% true shooting in 08/09, he's down to 15.3 pts/40 and 53.0% true shooting this year, as complaints about his ball-stopping offensive style have become louder. That said, he looks like an obvious upgrade over Charlie Bell in the starting lineup, and alongside Carlos Delfino and Luc Mbah a Moute gives the Bucks even more flexibility on both ends. Salmons is shooting 38% from deep this year after hitting at a 42% clip a year ago, so he can help spread the floor in addition to creating his own shot. He also gives the Bucks someone who can finish around the cup--though he's down to 56% this year, he shot exactly 64% each of the last two years.
Doing a two-for-one deal also opens an additional roster spot for the Bucks, and there's been some speculation that the Bucks would pursue Drew Gooden (who's now a Clipper...long story) if he's bought out by LA. Rick Bucher blogged tonight that Gooden would be open to signing with the Bucks or Bobs rather than returning to Dallas, where his minutes have been limited. However, David Aldridge tweeted that the Clips might not be buying out Gooden after all, especially if there's a team willing to give up something of value for him.
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I think Skiles will make it work
I have a feeling that the bucks aren’t done. If it stands the way it is, we are gonna see Gadz on the floor at least 10 min a game, a scary prospect.
While Salmons has a notoriously high few of himself and doesn’t really fit with the overall pass-first chemistry the bucks have going now, it’s painfully obvious that we needed another scorer. I have a feeling if he starts hucking or holding on to the ball he’ll find a spot on the bench real fast. We’ve done relatively well with bell/stack at the 2, so it’s not like he’ll be guaranteed minutes. Plus, look what we gave up. A little bit of wiggle room for a summer that we had not much to play with.
We’re setting up for 2011, and getting better for a playoff push this year. Looks like a win-win to me.
Time will tell, but I agree this looks like a solid compromise between getting better now without selling out the future.
by Frank Madden on Feb 17, 2010 11:06 PM CST up reply actions
couldn't be said better
I don’t think we would would be too big of a player in free agency this summer. I can’t wait for 1 year from now, when the expiring deals of Gadz, Redd, and Salmons bring in the non- stop offers
Go Beer, I mean Bucks
by Take Back Our Bucks on Feb 18, 2010 10:14 AM CST up reply actions
Really??
I didn’t think my buddy from Schaumburg was serious when he texted me. “Salmons for Kurt Thomas.” I mean I understand it means Danny Gadz will see a few mop-up minutes but we added scoring without giving up our first. And along with that, it puts all of our eggs in the Bogut Basket. If he gets injured, Salmons begins to bombard the backboard and we get a phenom draft pick with a boatload of expirings next year. If Bogut stays healthy, everything else should fall into place with our new found depth.
Chicks Dig The Long Ball.
I think it’s going to be Elson/Warrick. Warrick was held out and Thomas seems necessary as long as he’s the only serviceable backup center. Win now doesn’t make sense with no depth.
Elson/Warrick doesn’t work straight up for Salmons…Bucks would have to send out more salary.
by Frank Madden on Feb 18, 2010 8:24 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
any chance
joe alex comes back to the bucks for the last spot on the bench if it is indeed a 2 for 1 deal? that way the bucks wouldn’t take on any more salary. no idea if he is even playing well in the d-league though…
Alexander is now one of the guys headed out
Along with Warrick.
by Frank Madden on Feb 18, 2010 9:14 AM CST up reply actions
Well good luck to Hak Warrick. May he find bountiful minutes in his contract year and become a defensive sieve for the Bulls. And good luck to Joe, with a lot of hard work he might get a ten day contract someday.
by MadTown Hoops on Feb 18, 2010 9:23 AM CST up reply actions
Cap Space
I really like the deal. Salmons is a fringe starter, but as stated, the Bucks aren’t going to be doing anything huge in 2010 anyway so it’s a good deal. In fact, I think the Bucks getting huge cap relief in 2011 is a blessing with the new CBA. The Bucks’ cap space could be even more valuable if max contract size is pushed down under the CBA. Let’s just hope an agreement actually gets in place and we don’t head for a lockout…
On another note, how horrible was that Joe Alexander pick? He has to be one of the only lottery picks not getting his deal extended. Who would’ve you rather had besides him? Brook Lopez,, Jason Thompson, or Anthony Randolph. One positive thing to say about that draft though is that instead of Alexander we didn’t take a PG like Bayless. We would’ve probably never got Jennings if we had taken one of the many PG’s in that draft. Still Brook Lopez, Bogut, and Jennings Drools
Big thank-you's to Vin Baker, Shawn Respert, Tractor Traylor, and Anthony Mason; you ruined my childhood.
Yeah, JA sucked, but...
how many of us were drooling over him when he was drafted. every “expert” and even every Bucks fan thought we had it right. The Bucks were declared one of the “winners” of that draft. Everyone said it. If we had taked Lopez, we probably wouldn’t have gotten Jennings, but it’s all speculations. Randolph will be a horse in another year, but his tiny frame is going to keep him injured througout his career
Go Beer, I mean Bucks
by Take Back Our Bucks on Feb 18, 2010 10:20 AM CST up reply actions
I hope Joe don't bite us in the ass
I know he fell out of favor with injuries and generally not getting it on the court, but he was a late bloomer at West Virginia and I hope he doesn’t see the light in Chicago. The good news is that while playing for Del Negro, that isn’t likely to happen
He was gone this summer anyway, and I doubt the Bulls view him as anything more than an expiring deal (they won’t even have Bird rights on him this summer). He may yet figure things out but I doubt it’s in Chicago.
by Frank Madden on Feb 18, 2010 4:57 PM CST up reply actions

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