Recap: Bucks 83, Knicks 67
It didn't seem like Andrew Bogut was particularly broken up by the NBA's decision to leave him off the East all-star squad in favor of David Lee and Al Horford, but you wouldn't have known it from his dominating performance Friday night against Lee's Knicks. Sure, Bogut's 24 points on a tidy 12/15 shooting was the straw that stirred the Bucks' offensive drink, but it was his defensive impact (five blocks, 20 boards) that once again stood out just as much.
While the small-ball Knicks once again hemorrhaged points inside to Bogut and company, New York's often explosive offense could neither shoot straight from outside (5/24) nor find a way to get around Bogut inside (five blocks for the third straight game). Lee managed a very respectable 12/13 scoreline, but his opportunities were largely limited to mid-range jump shots and his typical assortment of garbage buckets around the hoop. Bogut had no such problems, scoring 14 points along with nine boards in the first 11 minutes of the game alone as the Bucks led by seven after one period. The Bucks didn't make much progress in the second quarter (heck, Royal Ivey played) and settled for a somewhat disappointing six point edge at the half, but you never felt like the new-look Knicks woud be organized or energetic enough to come out on top. Without any shot-blockers, their best defender gone (Jared Jeffries), and looking a bit like a team that just traded a bunch of guys, it didn't seem like New York would be able to stop the Bucks enough times to make up for their own lackadaisical offense.
Still Mike D'Antoni's crew threw enough pressure at the Bucks to force 18 turnovers, and a 12-0 run midway through the third even gave the Knicks a brief 53-51 lead. Maybe that would have been a problem for the old Bucks, but Milwaukee seems to have settled in nicely in that regard. Besides, the novelty of T-Mac aside, these are also largely still the same old Knicks. And in keeping with that, they looked the less energetic and talented side for most of the evening. Milwaukee countered the Knicks' third quarter run with a 13 point spurt of their own that featured a couple quick finishes by Bogut around the cup and restored the Bucks lead to eight going into the fourth and by 11 shortly thereafter. The Knicks hung around a bit in the fourth and got to within six with nine minutes remaning, but again the Bucks answered with seven straight points to send the Knicks to their seventh straight defeat.
Three Bucks
Andrew Bogut: 36 min, 24 pts, 12/15 fg, 20 rebs, 3 to, 5 blk
The only thing that could stop Bogut in the teams' last meeting at MSG was a migraine, but tonight it was the Knicks' defenders who were left with headaches. While Bogut dropped in a couple of his standard back-em-down hook shots, the key was keeping him involved in multiple ways. He put the ball on the deck a couple times, had a number of putbacks, and Jennings found him off a couple pick and rolls to boot. Since his two first half misses were tips that he eventually put in, I counted only one play (a missed baseline hook shot in the third) when Bogut got a shot and didn't score on the possession. And while the Knicks held him to six points in the second half by bringing a hard double whenever he touched it, he stayed patient and got enough help from teammates that it wasn't enough to derail the Bucks' 10th road win.
Luc Mbah a Moute: 33 min, 11 pts, 5/6 fg, 1/2 ft, 11 rebs, 4 ast, 1 stl
Though guarded by Wilson Chandler on offense, Mbah a Moute started the game matched against McGrady on defense and appeared to have his hands full. Lee found T-Mac for an early back-door play, and McGrady still had enough speed to give Mbah a Moute problems on the drive in the first half. But it didn't last, as McGrady slowed as the game went on (a bruised knee didn't help) and finished just 5/14 from the field for 15 points. Mbah a Moute meanwhile again focused on the dirty work offensively, showing proper discretion in shooting (just one jump shot that I remember) while passing well around the hoop and generally doing the whole "role player" thing nearly perfectly.
Ersan Ilyasova: 22 min, 10 pts, 5/6 fg, 6 rebs, 1 to
Ilyasova had one of the best games of his career last month at MSG, and after another solid showing it would appear that he's starting to really like the Big Apple. There was a pretty big dropoff tonight after Bogut and LRMaM, but we'll give the nod to the efficient Ilyasova over the more shot-happy Salmons (15 points on 18 shots).
Three Numbers
+26. The Bucks dominated the boards from the opening possession, grabbing 16 offensive rebounds and 61 total, compared to just 6 and 35 for the Knicks.
26. The Knicks scored just 14 in the third quarter and 12 in the fourth, scoring a season-low 26 in the second half and 67 for the game. Considering the Knicks score an average of 101 pts/game and surrender 104, it's rare that you can leave MSG with a win after scoring just 83.
20. Bogut fell short of the career-high 24 boards he snagged against Philly on January 12, 2007, but managed at least 20 for the fourth time in his NBA career. He also grabbed 20 against Indiana on December 3, 2008, Utah on November 9, 2008, and Denver on February 23, 2008.
Three Good
Defense. The Knicks aren't a good team, but they're not a bad offense either. So holding New York to a meager 67 points and 34% shooting is something worth applauding. The Knicks looked to be crashing a bit after the sugar high of McGrady's debut, but even aside from their poor shooting the Bucks deserve plenty of credit for outworking their East Coast counterparts. Lee was mostly limited to passing from the high post while Mbah a Moute and Salmons made McGrady work for every chance he got.
Frontcourt. In the pregame discussion a few of us were debating the relative importance of stopping McGrady versus Lee. As it turns out, neither guy made much of an impact on the game, but the real story to me was the Bucks' domination of the Knick frontcourt. It all starts with having a big, skilled center that the Knicks simply couldn't guard one-on-one, but as you can tell from our "Three Bucks" section he got nice supporting work from the PF tandem of Mbah a Moute and Ilyasova. Lee certainly wasn't bad, but got next to no help from fellow starters Danilo Gallinari and Wilson Chandler, while Al Harrington stroked a couple early threes but was otherwise a non-factor as well.
Eight is enough. With Charlotte dropping a tight one against the Clippers and the Bulls falling in Washington, the Bucks have moved into a tie with Charlotte for 8th place in the East, are a game back of Miami for 7th and 1.5 back of the Bulls for sixth. Keep it up, boys.
Three Bad
Turnovers. The Bucks looked nervous at times on the ball, allowing Knick pressure to force an uncharacteristic 18 turnovers. They looked particularly ragged early in the third, when the Knicks scored 12 straight to take a 53-51 lead. At times they didn't seem prepared to deal with the Knicks' predictable doubling of Bogut, which is kind of worrying when you consider that teams are likely to be doing it more and more often.
Jennings' shooting. Though he ended up scraping together a respectable line with eight boards and seven assists, there's no getting around the 1/9 shooting night he put up. Jennings was 0/7 in the first half and looked gunshy in the third, which becomes a problem when teams start to double Bogut and force perimeter guys to make jump shots.
Empire State of Mind. The Bucks have had a blast playing the Knicks this season, sweeping New York 3-0 including a couple wins at MSG. Add the 3-0 record they have against the Nets (winning by an aggregate 56 points), and the New York Metro area has been a home away from home--I'm guessing I know one song that will be played on the team bus tonight. Sadly, they won't get another chance to play the Knicks until next season, though they do get the Nets at home on April 7.
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When do we seriously start questioning Jennings’ ability to finish around the basket? It seems like everytime he gets to the rim, turnover.
I hope that is something that develops with experience.
Unless experience is 20 pounds of solid muscle, this is what we have. He could get craftier, but there’s not much he can do when most point guards in this league are monsters to him.
by MadTown Hoops on Feb 23, 2010 2:46 AM CST up reply actions
In other words, he needs a reliable running floater.
by MadTown Hoops on Feb 23, 2010 2:47 AM CST up reply actions
Yeah, I think we’ve been questioning it for some time…he’s just an awful finisher right now, and his jump shooting isn’t much better. You’re never going to have an easier time scoring around the hoop than against the Knickers either, so the fact that he’s still bricking everything with no shot-blockers around kind of sums up where he is.
by Frank Madden on Feb 23, 2010 9:15 AM CST up reply actions
He's still very young...
He’ll put in the reps and that should come… he doesn’t seem to be forcing things too much which is nice to see… he seems comfortable out there and is asserting him self as one of the teams leaders…. Let’s discuss this in 2 years because at this point he is just a raw rookie…
Some muscle on him would be helpful as well…
The counterargument is that he’s already our leading scorer, so even if there’s nothing we can do to make him bigger/stronger/savvier right now, we should at least be wondering how best to utilize him.
by Frank Madden on Feb 23, 2010 11:00 AM CST up reply actions
I can live with him not finishing consistently as long as he is still playing the right way...
if he is using his quickness to get into the lane to take what are normally high percentage shots and happens to miss shots I am fine with that… he will get better at it….
i cannot live with him taking stupid shots though… i think at this stage in his career it is important he is playing the correct way even if the results aren’t always there…
something i’ve noticed him doing better now than at the beginning of the season is keeping his dribble until he decides to shoot or pass… there is less hesitation with him now…
i think at this point he is being utilized just fine but the consistency isnt there… i mean he may take a few too many long 2’s but I think that reflects more on him then how the Bucks are utilizing him
by Superelkman on Feb 23, 2010 11:54 AM CST up reply actions
Man, Jennings is a rental. In his actions and interviews, you get the sense that he wants to be known as great. He’s putting in his time and saying the right things, but he wants the right stage and I don’t think he sees himself in Milwaukee long term. I think if the team becomes something special and he sees himself as an integral part of that, maybe he stays. Right now it looks like the Brew City is his training ground, but we won’t see the results.
by MadTown Hoops on Feb 24, 2010 1:07 AM CST up reply actions
really? does anyone else get this impression...
I hope this isnt the case
by Superelkman on Feb 24, 2010 10:07 AM CST up reply actions
does anyone else...?
Yah. I’ve had the same thoughts. In one of his early interviews with the Bucks, Salmons said that Milwaukee wasn’t “on his radar,” but when he thought about it it was a good situation for him. I thought that meant a good situation to get PT and build his career. Said career to be practiced who knows where.
I’d guess Jennings, after some early disappointment, took a similar view. A good training ground, as MT H says. But, right now, he probably doesn’t view the Bucks as the “right stage.” I think his development as a distributing PG is somewhat hampered by not playing with the kind of athletes he’d be most simpatico with. In part ‘cuz we don’t have many great athletes and because some of our most prominent players come from other countries, other hoop cultures.
Does Brandon have to be closer to “the hood” to build the kind of rep he’d like? Maybe. But maybe that mind set is part of being young. Maybe an improving Bucks team and a maturing Jennings will produce a different “worldview.”
I don’t see him as captive to how he might feel now. I see him as fully capable of choosing his path – or rather, choosing the best path open to him, choosing with integrity.
he could use more muscle and a reliable floater
Go Beer, I mean Bucks
by Take Back Our Bucks on Feb 23, 2010 9:00 AM CST reply actions
Three things stood out to me in this game...
The intensity was high pretty much throughout the game which was great to see… even when they didn’t score for like 5-6 minutes in the 2nd half they played D and only slowly let the Knicks back in the game… if that happened in the past they would have been down by 10 rather than very much still in it…
Also, sloppy passing… Sergio Rodriguez and the rest of the Knicks were intercepting passes like madmen… this hasn’t really been a problem this year so it doesn’t worry me too much at this point
After Bogut torched them early on the Knicks finally started to deny him the ball and well I might add. This was a little concerning as the Bucks didn’t seem to find a consistent way to get him the ball or atleast capitalize on the extra attention Bogut was being shown. If teams are going to focus that much on him they are conceding something. The Bucks need to do a better job of finding what they are giving up and attacking it.
The Bucks have generally had trouble with teams that a) double Bogut and b) go to zone defenses. It’s not that surprising I suppose—it makes it hard to use our best player and our perimeter guys aren’t consistent enough to always make them pay for it.
by Frank Madden on Feb 23, 2010 9:59 AM CST up reply actions
When this does happen I would like to see Bogut step out to the high post and catch the ball there...
he can work from the high post and it is much harder to deny someone in the high post…
by Superelkman on Feb 23, 2010 11:55 AM CST up reply actions
Bogut is getting there, but he’s no Shaq. It takes a gift to reliably catch and create in the high post. If he develops a more consistently multifaceted inside game, alright then.
by MadTown Hoops on Feb 24, 2010 1:14 AM CST up reply actions
dude... shaq hasnt caught in the high post since he was in orlando...
he didnt need too… he would just set up 4 ft from the basket and jam it
by Superelkman on Feb 24, 2010 10:08 AM CST up reply actions
Wouldn’t another tough inside presence be nice in those situations. I’m hoping they adress that in the draft.
I’ve said in the past that it would have been sweet to have B Lopez on our team, but we probably wouldn’t have Jennings. Then i realized, We most likely would still have Sessions, if we had Lopez. Man, Joe Alexander and the pick of him really sucks
Go Beer, I mean Bucks
by Take Back Our Bucks on Feb 23, 2010 10:19 AM CST reply actions
Jennings finishing...
I’m no graduate student of shot form, but it seems to me Brandon doesn’t simply need to fine tune his finishing form. He needs a whole new paradigm. From scratch. His shot is not a hoop-seeking missile headed purposely toward the rim. It’s usually more like a balloon that escapes a child’s hand and moves at the whims of the Spring breezes. The shot (NOT the man) is effeminate and unfocused.
I have respect for the words you just wrote
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by Take Back Our Bucks on Feb 23, 2010 11:53 AM CST up reply actions
The man definitely needs a session or two with Dr. Thorpe.
by MadTown Hoops on Feb 24, 2010 1:16 AM CST up reply actions
Why didn't Bell get more burn last night?
It wasn’t like Delfino was tearing it up… Delfino was something like 3-13 and the Knicks are a smaller team so he could have been out there with Salmons and Jennings…
We won so it isn’t really an issue but is he injured? in the dog house? any update on this situation?
It’s the same reason Dio doesn’t get enough air play
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by Take Back Our Bucks on Feb 23, 2010 12:02 PM CST up reply actions
I’m guessing this is one of those “whim of Skiles” type deals. Probably wanted to throw Ivey a bone, and he’d only had 10 and 12 minutes the previous two games. He DNP’ed two games when Redd was back in December as well.
by Frank Madden on Feb 23, 2010 8:49 PM CST up reply actions
so when....
when is it time ridnour will get more playing time from jennings….i mean i know he basicly cant start….if you do that it will ruin jennings confidence….but this terrible shooting news are going to catch up to the bucks sooner or later.
Efficient Chucking
When Jennings’ shot is off, he dials it back a great deal. As long as he’s distributing and playing defense, I’m happy. And yanking minutes from him will do no good if he continues to do Skiles’ bidding. I’ll admit, he’s made Luc Richard look like Steve Kerr as of late, but he continues to play hard and act the part of a PG. Let the kid play!
Chicks Dig The Long Ball.
Great Writers..
I don’t know how much credit you guys get, but these stories are really creative, fun to read and informative, By the way, I still think Jennings will explode and be the stud he has the potential to be!
by Dan182 on Feb 23, 2010 3:53 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
Thanks Dan!
(your check is in the mail)
by Frank Madden on Feb 23, 2010 8:50 PM CST up reply actions
Jennings future
There are a few things Jennings can do this offseason to really explode and acheive all star quality. For one thing, he needs to study Iverson and learn how to draw fouls. I know it isn’t pretty, but Jennings has the quickness and craftiness to shoot 10 free throws a game. Secondly, he needs to study Tony Parker and the uncanny way that guy scores in the lane at a high percentage off floaters. Chris Paul is another guy that basically can hit that floater all the way out to the free throw line at will. It is a difficult shot, but then again, Jennings is the one that claims he is the hardest worker in the league (in his Under Armor ads). Jennings can still hit the three, but his mid range percentages have plunged month by month. Regardless, this is the first offseason since Ray and Glenn were youngsters that I truly believe that a 5-6 game improvement could come between this year and next, soley based on the improvement of our core (Bogut, Jennings, MBoute).
Drawing fouls is certainly a key. He’s shown quite a bit of frustration about not getting calls as the season’s progressed, sometimes for very good reason, other times not so much. Regardless, that frustration sometimes appears to be sometimes be the impetus for him either determinedly attacking regardless of situation, or not going to the rack at all. Just a rook’.

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