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MILWAUKEE --That scoreboard photo above? It wasn't taken immediately after Brandon Jennings made a three to open the game, so it's probably best that you can't make out the numbers. Because you can then safely assume the Bucks were losing.

The Sixers are among the rarest of teams with a better record on the road than at home. And this game against Philadelphia started and ended like the season started in Philadelphia: in bad form, in disappointment, in a loss.

Only now the expectations are so much higher for Milwaukee, and so much lower for Philadelphia, that this one stings even more, and it always hurts to lose the first game of the season after a too-long spring and summer.

This was a bad time for the Sixers to realize their talent, but the Bucks have no excuses. Not on a night when Elton Brand (1-7 shooting) was hardly there and Thaddeus Young and Lou Williams weren't there at all. Philadelphia's talent level doesn't suggest they are a bad team, but after five months a loss tonight would have meant they had twice as many losses as wins. And that's bad.

Unfortunately, the Bucks were worse, as human-after-all John Salmons (four points on 2-12 shooting) clunked back to earth, Andrew Bogut (eight points, three rebounds) was outdone not by one but two Philadelphia centers (Samuel Dalembert and Jason Smith), and not a single Milwaukee player was memorable.

Meanwhile, Willie Green only needed 16 to lead all scorers, as most everyone on Philadelphia contributed to the killing, with Jrue Holiday (15/4/7) playing more mature than someone born in the 1990's, the aforementioned Dalembert (12/10) having his way with Bogut, and even Jodie Meeks (seven points in 21 minutes) getting in on the Philly fun.

But the team can't forget games like this, because for as great as the Bucks have played at home recently and all year, they are certainly prone to fall into absolute disarray from time to time. In the Bradley Center, when it rains, it pours -- the last five home losses have been by 12+ points. Granted, that dates back three months and plenty of personnel changes, but Jennings, Bogut, Mbah a Moute, Delfino, Ridnour, and Skiles are pretty substantial constants.

And speaking of constants, defense wasn't one for Milwaukee. A bottom-tier Sixers offense put up 58 first-half points even as Skiles went a legitimate ten-deep in the first 24 minutes to try to find answers.

Also unfortunate is that the Bucks haven't quite yet played their final minutes against the Sixers this season. Bogut, Ivey, Brezec, the whole crew, travel to the City of Brotherly Love on April 9.

Star-divide

THREE BUCKS

Luc Mbah a Moute. While this wasn't his finest hour, he was fine in 15 minutes, so it's difficult to understand why Mbah a Moute didn't play more. Elton Brand was a non-factor, The Prince came up with three steals in limited burn, and the rest of the Bucks couldn't stop anyone. They needed points to keep up, but Luc made his way to the hoop for a couple baskets including a dunk early.

Jerry Stackhouse. Stack wins points for aggressiveness. Maybe loses them too for the same reason, but at least he was alive out there. He made almost half of the team's 17 free throws, and made all of his free throws (8-8). Unfortunately, he couldn't make a thing from outside (1-6 on threes) and that was just killing the Bucks all evening.

Primo Brezec. The Second Buck shot 1-6 from outside and the star of the night was benched after 15 minutes, so yeah, Primo's four points (2-2 shooting) and three rebounds in the final seven minutes of the game are good  mediocre enough.

THREE NUMBERS

17.9 % The Bucks kept on firing their way to a 5-28 (.179) night on three pointers. That is merely terrible, but when you consider that the Sixers are the worst team in the NBA at defending threes, the stat becomes almost unbelievably ghastly. Philadelphia entered this evening allowing opponents to shoot an NBA-best 39.8 % from beyond the arc.

The Bucks started 1-14 on threes.

28. An odd one: The Bucks scored 28 fastbreak points (11-11 shooting) compared to 12 (on 5-5 shooting) for the Sixers.

4. John Salmons scored four points on 2-12 shooting after scoring at least three times (12) that many points in every game as a Buck heretofore.

THREE GOOD

At least... I'm just an impartial reporter who doesn't care which team wins.

Home run. Another home loss was bound to happen eventually, but quite a run at home. Milwaukee fell tonight at the BC, but not before eight straight home wins that spanned a full month and a week.

Now here's the strange part. Remember all of those early-season nailbiting home losses? Well, can you remember the last one? Key(hyphenated)word was "early-season."

You'll have to think all the way back more than three months ago when Tyreke scooped in a layup to burn the Bucks, on Dec. 19 for the last close loss at the Bradley Center.

The five home losses since then? All big, bad, blowouts.

Iggy's dunk. The Bucks threw down at least three dunks (Mbah a Moute, Ilyasova, Stackhouse) in the first quarter alone, but Andre Iguodala's third quarter windmill slam summarized the night with an exclamation point.

A particularly vocal fan spit insults at the Sixers very early and very often in this game, targeting Samuel Dalembert and Andre Iguodala in particular. As the game turned in Philly's favor, Dalembert enjoyed some good-natured ribbing at the expense of this paying patron, frequently talking back and standing up to turn around and taunt the fan during some of the many Sixers highlight moments. This guy had also teased Iggy quite a bit, saying he was not the real AI.

But the dunk altered things, to the point that he admitted Iggy was indeed the real AI. This guy seriously seemed to fire up half the players on Philadelphia and so it was somewhat gratifying to see him play the fool in the end.

THREE BAD

Bogut. "Emo Bogut" was One Bad in the opening night loss in Philly, and we thought that things were different now, but here we are... This marks a third straight Emo-ish game for Andrew. Another single-digit scoring game (8) after going for two points in Denver and nine points against Atlanta, and he totaled as many turnovers (3) as rebounds.

Skiles, post-game:

We're not overly concerned or anything like that. Any player can go through a three or four game stretch during the season where they are not the same. But, you know, it's there, and everybody can see it.

Starters' start. The starters didn't even last five minutes on the floor as Scott Skiles subbed out Jennings, Delfino, Mbah a Moute, and Bogut at the 7:29 mark of the first quarter. The Bucks only trailed 14-9 at that point, but coach had seen enough, he had seen too much, really. And Skiles is never shy to bench someone, anyone. The idea isn't so much to send a message, but to get someone on the floor who will play.

So, who will play? Skiles doesn't play around:

With 5:15 to go in the first quarter, a colleague of mine asked, "Am I seeing things?" upon Royal Ivey making his way to check in at center court. The PA announcer said the words "Royal Ivey," to which I asked "Am I hearing things?"

No, times were just that desperate, that early.

The Jennings/Salmons/Delfino/Mbah a Moute/Bogut quintet has been mostly magnificent (+74 in 237.6 minutes before tonight) but they have proven very breakable recently, as Skiles noted after the game:

The Denver game was very good. Take that game out of what I was saying. But the rest of the games, Clippers, Sacramento, Atlanta the other night, and tonight, we're not doing anything to set the tone or anything. We're starting the game just kind of passive and teams are taking it to us and forcing us to get back into the games... Tonight was much more like the Clippers game where we just couldn't get back into it.

Easy, breezy. Jrue Holiday and Jason Kapono lit up the Bradley Center with 10 points each in the first quarter, making 9-10 shots from the field combined.

And neither played a second in the second quarter.

Need to make time for Jodie Meeks, I guess. The former Buck managed more court time (12:52) than both Holiday and Kapono in the first half. It's almost as if Eddie Jordan was just toying with the Bucks in this one. Like a great team against a terrible one, the Sixers interchanged players with little noticeable change. No matter who Philly threw on the court, the result was the same. Willie Green, Jason Smith, Marreese Speights, they all got theirs.

The Sixers cruised to this win, no sweat.

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Is it just me.....

or did I feel a whole lot more comfortable when we put games like this against teams like this away….especially at home……and had honorable losses to the better teams?

by ILIKEBJ'S on Mar 25, 2010 12:31 AM CDT reply actions  

also.......

I mean 14-9 it’s not a disaster….maybe give the guys a chance to work through it abit and turn it around? With the recent good run that the team has been on, possibly there should be some confidence that they can work themselves into the game and turn it around………rather than saying whooah they stink Ill yank them all? I would have hoped we might have moved beyond that

by ILIKEBJ'S on Mar 25, 2010 12:41 AM CDT reply actions  

This loss tonight was stunning

especially when Philly didn’t play all that great and yet still won by double digits. It would be one thing if the 76ers were clicking on all cylinders and the Bucks were just overwhelmed but that didn’t happen tonight.

Like Alex pointed out above, Iggy didn’t shoot well (4/10 FG, just 1/5 3Pt) and Elton was 1/7 FG only. Jrue shot well but still scored just 15 points and had 6 TOs.

I’m as surprised by how they lost tonight as by how they won against Atlanta despite the glaring ineffectiveness of Jennings and Bogut in that game. Those two can’t expect the others to bail them out every game (as Salmons, Delfino, and Ridnour did in the game against the Hawks).

Jennings and Bogut have to carry the team and be more consistent.

by LibNat on Mar 25, 2010 1:13 AM CDT reply actions  

You don't think the coach is showing enough patience with him?

Has this been going all season long or is this something recent?

by LibNat on Mar 25, 2010 9:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

more recent...

it was well deserved in my opinion… he isn’t being aggressive enough defensively to come out of the gate….

by Superelkman on Mar 25, 2010 10:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

although...

this was happening earlier in the season as well, its started up again I agree to a certain extent but also I think with Bogues recent stellar play he deserves a bit of leeway rather than getting jerked out of the game everytime……..20 mins against Philly? I think its a bit excessive especially when apart from the heads up veteran savvy play of KT is the onky option….no I dont consider Primoz an option

I appreciate Skiles coaching and Bogut has pretty much credited Skiles coaching and defensive schemes with his improvement so obviously somethings working but maybe this is why he eventually grates on his previous teams?

by ILIKEBJ'S on Mar 26, 2010 12:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

hmmm

convenient timing ha…………hopefully its the reason why….cos after the all star break he seemed to eradicate these horrible games where he contributes nothing……and whilst an emo bo game once in awhile is always endearing….3 in a row is hard to swallow after this season!!!!

by ILIKEBJ'S on Mar 26, 2010 3:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

It’s things like this that scare me. People have begun to Feer the Deer, and losing games you should win is a good way to lose momentum.

by Troy J. on Mar 25, 2010 3:33 AM CDT reply actions   1 recs

Feer the Deer

I like that.

For a young team like the Bucks, they need to finish the season strong and have some mo’ going into the playoffs.

Stumbling into the playoffs might mean getting swept in the first round.

by LibNat on Mar 25, 2010 9:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

Just a single game guys...

don’t go jumping off the bandwagon yet….

granted the Bucks didn’t play their best D… they played OK and the 76ers just shot the lights out for most of the game while all the Bucks jumpers seemed to go out…

by Superelkman on Mar 25, 2010 9:30 AM CDT reply actions  

Night couldn't have gone worse barring injuries.

Not only did the Bucks lose bad, but Charlotte, Atlanta, and Boston all won. Plus Toronto lost, leaving a possible opening for the Bulls to sneak into the playoffs, dropping our potential draft pick several spots.

by Brick's house on Mar 25, 2010 9:35 AM CDT reply actions  

we will be fine...

as long as we make the playoffs guys we have got to be happy with this season… keep a good grasp on what we are, which is still a bunch of overachievers… let’s get into the playoffs and see what happens from there… every team has these type of losses and we still are one of the hottest teams since the break… plus games like this give Skiles and Co. a lot of teaching points for this young squad…

by Superelkman on Mar 25, 2010 9:53 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

great points

hopefully this loss can be turned into a positive by reminding the players that they have to play all out all the time against all opponents. They shouldn’t wait until the playoffs to do that.

by LibNat on Mar 25, 2010 10:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Atleast we only have to wait until tomorrow to play again...

Miami is coming to town and will for sure play inspired since we beat them last time… gonna need to bring the intensity from the get-go in this one…

This is a Friday night game and D-Wade is coming to town… the BC better be rocking…

Also, How come they rarely use the horn when the opponent shoots anymore? I love the sounds of that obnoxious horn earlier in the year… definitely added to our home court advantage… Any one know the answer to this?

by Superelkman on Mar 25, 2010 9:58 AM CDT reply actions  

I'm downsizing (some)...

The wins were great to watch, but often somehow improbable. Surprising. The losses were flat affairs where the defense looked ordinary and the offense looked anemic.

Putting all that together, I reach a provisional operating assumption (far from a conclusion) that my team is significantly improved but still plagued by erratic performances.

I wonder if sane human beings can consistently give the level of energy that Skiles demands, but don’t really think we’re there (yet?). I think it’s more that players that have surprised us with strong, strong performances haven’t consolidated those improvements. The players and the team are still erratic in a major way.

So I’m adjusting my expectations to Playoffs, Yes; 2nd Round, No. Maybe a 50/50 or somewhat better record for the rest of the regular season.

And I’m realizing that not every game is worth watching every minute. (Thank you DVD.) I maintain that doesn’t make me a fickle fan, although YMMV. To me it just acknowledges that the Bucks can be boring. (And, yes, they can also be a major hoot!)

by unklchuk on Mar 25, 2010 9:58 AM CDT reply actions  

we got punked worse than Flip Saunders

fair enough despite this run we are not a 50 win team yet thats fairly obvious, just disappointing couldnt back up a great win against the Hawks by taking care of lets face it a horrible team……….and the same kinda thing against the LA Clipps….these are two teams that are having horrible years……….Clipps already gave the arse to their coach & you kinda get the feeling they want to do the same to Eddie Jordan…frustrating

by ILIKEBJ'S on Mar 25, 2010 1:52 PM CDT reply actions  

i think eddie jordan and flip saunders are good coaches that are in awful situations...

I particularly think Jordan could be very effective as the coach of certain teams because of the Princeton offense he runs… the problem is, the Princeton offense takes discipline, time to learn, and a few big dudes with some range who can handle it a bit… the 76ers are just lacking in polished talent right now but I think if they give Jordan the proper time to develop Speights and Holiday and allow everyone to grasp his system they can be decent in a few years…

by Superelkman on Mar 25, 2010 3:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

Only from my cold dead fist...

“for using the word ‘hoot’ in your post without referring to the sound an owl makes… you are here-by having your man card revoked….”

Not a chance. I have an OFE. Old Fart’s Exemption. We get to use all kinds of weird words. We even get to make ’em up, and/or define them the way we wanna.

Hoot, for example, is short for hootenanny – which is kinda like a rock concert without all the hot chicks. Hot chicks, BTW, are tiny chickens left in the incubator too long. Thanks to the current Mental Floss magazine, I know a bunch of stuff about chickens. Like how to hypnotize them into submissiveness (although personal experience suggests that doesn’t work on hot chicks). Plus, the oddity that cocks or roosters don’t have, er…, penises. They have a setup very like the hens, except with sperm. To my mind, that fully accounts for their ill temper.

by unklchuk on Mar 25, 2010 2:33 PM CDT reply actions  

Bogut's health

A little worried he might be at less than 100%, but he says he’s fine.

The Heat doubled the hell out of him the last time we played them, so there’s no guarantee he has a big game Friday, but at the very least I hope Skiles give him 35 minutes to get his bearings. At some point you have to give the guy the benefit of the doubt and go with your best player.

by Frank Madden on Mar 25, 2010 3:52 PM CDT reply actions  

Skiles is pretty smart...

if he thinks Bogut isn’t giving the energy level that he should be I believe him…

by Superelkman on Mar 25, 2010 4:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

fair enough..........

just like to see some confidence in Drew after the last month or so…………..I think Skiles pretty much said it Bogut has to be aggressive, but at least if he is on the floor he can contribute with his passing, rebounding, and at least he draws plenty of attention when he is out there….Not being able to match up well with Willy Green & Jason Smith worries me

by ILIKEBJ'S on Mar 25, 2010 9:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

Momma said there would be days like this....

All the recent winning has been great, but we were due for a loss like this. Philly does match up well with us even though they were without some key guys. Lets just put it behind us. Friday is even bigger now with the Heat having a chance to come in only 2 games behind us if they win tonight. Hope they do though since Toronto is making me a little bit uncomfortable being only 2 games ahead of Chicago.

by 808bucks on Mar 25, 2010 5:41 PM CDT reply actions  

???

I know the Bulls are trying to make a play off push(sic) but after the whole trade deadline play of dumping Salmons contract to clear cap space for next season, its kinda insane that they are forcing or encouraging Noah to even get out there, its smacks of desperation……….the guy has plantar fasciitis its hardly a joke…and messing around with it is stupid for one season when their whole play seems to be go after a big free agent signing next year? If you fracture that navicular bone in your foot its career threatening its stupid…….hey but welcome to the Bulls

by ILIKEBJ'S on Mar 26, 2010 1:04 AM CDT up reply actions  

well that would be awesome... anything that hurts teams in our division I am all for...

I am hoping LeBron leaves too so we can pwn this division in years to come…

by Superelkman on Mar 26, 2010 3:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

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