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Bucks 108, Grizzlies 103: Bogut and Ilyasova return, Bucks return to winning ways

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MILWAUKEE -- Getting everything right generally takes a bit of time. But it doesn't take long for things to fall apart.

The Bucks started the season hot, but they weren't really ready to join the elite, or even the playoff contenders. It took adjusting to the season-ending injury of Michael Redd, the evolution of Andrew Bogut from good to very good, a couple mid-season trades, and four months (or four years) for the Bucks to climb their way into relevance.

But in just a few days the team had lost two bad home games, their star center to a back problem, their point guard to general malaise, their recent sixth man to illness, their starting small forward in most depressing fashion, and their grip on an all-important top six finish.

Yet this time, things have seemingly fallen back into place pretty quickly. Delfino didn't play today but was released from the hospital and said he's okay, Bogut returned quickly and spryly, Jennings was back at the top of his game, the Bucks reclaimed home court supremacy against a good team, and did so in overtime, where they have struggled to finish games this season.

The medium-sized three of Bogut, Jennings, and Salmons shot the Bucks to victory against a game Grizzlies team that is a pretty even matchup for Milwaukee. And the game indeed was quite even the entire way.

The Grizzlies' biggest lead was just seven points -- the problem was that lead came with just six minutes and change to go in regulation. After that, an invigorated Jennings made his way to the basket for three layups in the next two and a half minutes, just the type of plays I like to see, and the type of words you like to read. One of those layups followed a steal by Ersan Ilyasova, whose praises must be sung through the early-morning hours from Milwaukee, Wisconsin to Eskisiher, Turkey.

Ilyasova stepped out of bounds a couple times, airballed a three pointer, and delivered one particularly bad pass. But he also allowed the Bucks to tie the game at the end of four quarters with the most decisive, crucial, and memorable plays. Even before the fourth quarter he was drawing charges, stuffing Zach Randolph in a major way on the break, and doing all of the things that the Bucks didn't do in his absence.

Ersanator gave Milwaukee its first lead of the fourth quarter, 91-89, on a delightful Turk Nowitzki three pointer with about a minute and a half remaining in regulation. After Andrew Bogut drew a charge, the Bucks got the ball back still up by two, but Jennings missed a three pointer. Ilyasova tracked the ball and flew to the corner, saving it from going out of bounds and securing another possession, in which Jennings hit a floater to push the lead to four. An and-one by Zach Randolph trimmed the lead to one and Memphis got the ball back down by just a point, but Ilyasova picked off O.J. Mayo's pass with 17 seconds in regulation. It looked like the game was won until Mike Conley drew a foul with two seconds and sunk both free throw to force overtime.

But the game was won in overtime, and Ilyasova was monumental in getting to those five extra minutes. And while it took them some time, the Bucks got it right in the end.

Star-divide

THREE BUCKS

Brandon Jennings. After the Miami loss the other night, I noted that Brandon had totaled 27/9/6 in his last four games combined. Today? Try 29/7/8. In one game. Not coincidentally, the Bucks won this one after splitting the previous four games.

Jennings did a bit of everything against Memphis, a nice contrast to the whole lot of of nothing of late. Jennings finished in transition multiple times early on, and while he was stuffed twice by Marc Gasol late in the game, he nonetheless had a pretty successful day around the rim.

Brandon shot 10-24 from the field, but only shot from outside the paint and inside the three point line three times, all misses. Those are the shots he must improve on, but they are also the low-percentage (30 % from 10-15 feet, 34 % from 16-23 feet), low-reward (only two points, unlikely to draw foul, etc.) shots that are best kept to a minimum for now.

Instead, Jennings scored the bulk of his points at the rim, on threes (3-10), and at the line (6-7). He also sharply directed the offense (eight assists and a few more hockey assists), hit the boards for seven rebounds, and made plays defensively (four steals).

John Salmons. This is the kind of game (25/6/6) that we now almost expect from Salmons, and it's also why we now expect the Bucks to win. I don't know whether John will be back in Milwaukee next season, but if not, they are certainly getting the most out of him.

Not only is he playing better than ever before, he is also logging lots of minutes, and he stayed strong for all 48:58 today. Outplayed O.J. Mayo, who, by the way, is averaging very similar numbers this season to what Salmons is with Milwaukee so far.

Andrew Bogut. I arrived at the stadium roughly two hours before tip-off, and the Bucks were conducting a closed practice, perhaps in part to give Bogut some pregame reps to get ready. And while Skiles had said the back injury was completely unrelated, it was still a back injury, and 'Drew wasn't right for the last week.

Fortunately, he was just fine against a team with four 7'0" + guys . The two seven footers who played, Marc Gasol and Hasheem Thabeet combined for as many fouls (11) as points. Bogut finished a tick above his season averages with 18 points, 11 rebounds, 4 blocks, and one around the back pass.

THREE NUMBERS

6. The Memphis bench rang up six total points and Marcus Williams and Hasheem Thabeet were scoreless in 26 combined minutes.

8. After failing to block a shot against Miami, which was representative of the general listlessness in that game, the Bucks blocked eight shots today, led by four from Andrew Bogut, who has played 2+ shots in 18 of the last 19 games.

22-16. Memphis entered with an above-average free throw rate (10th in the NBA) and Milwaukee is of course bottom of that table. But the Bucks made 22-27 at the line compared to 16-22 for the Grizzlies. That six point discrepancy made the difference in a five-point win.

THREE GOOD

Backup. Once Carlos Delfino returns (Skiles did not reveal when that will be) it will be hard to justify giving Jerry Stackhouse 21 minutes when he plays like he did tonight. He shot what is becoming an almost standard 1-6 today, and he's  3-24 on threes since St. Patrick's Day.

But while three starters claimed the Three Bucks spots, three reserves were quite good as well. Ersan Ilyasova (eight points, six rebounds, two steals, two blocks) is the anti-Charlie Villanueva -- he doesn't put up big numbers yet is a hugely positive force for his team -- Luke Ridnour (14/7/2) is re-rounding back into form, and Kurt Thomas (four points, three rebounds) gave enough so that we didn't have to see much Gadz or any Primoz.

Skiles. Even considering a couple recent losses, Skiles has been so right so often this year that it's difficult not to give him a pass in regard to pulling players early and often, as well as all of the other frequent rotation shuffling.

After the game Skiles said that Charlie Bell got sick (not a major thing) and that is why he only played 12 minutes. Zach Randolph was an impossibly difficult cover for everyone, and Luc Mbah a Moute only played ten minutes. And would-be starter Carlos Delfino was of course out.

Still, the rightful Coach of the Year candidate mostly pulled the right strings in this one, running a particularly good-looking Jennings/Ridnour/Salmons/Ilyasova/Bogut line that pushed the ball around in the half court quickly.

Close calls. The Bucks still haven't lost a close game (within single digits) at the Bradley Center in more than two months, and that bodes well for the playoffs. Or it means they are bound to start losing these tight games at just the worst time. In any event, they also improved to 4-5 in overtime games.

THREE ONE BAD

E-Gadz. I can't even describe what exactly Dan Gadzuric was doing out there on a few instances, and I know it is my job to do just that (particularly with no local television), but the properly descriptive words just haven't been invented yet. Probably because the world has never seen such things before. Anyway, I can relay a couple gory details: Within a couple minutes, Gadz grazed the backboard on a put-back attempt and then was stuffed by the bottom of the rim on another put-back attempt. Later, he was booed after wishing fans a happy birthday on the Jumbotron.

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Gadzuric

That was horrible. But the rest was pretty fun.

How often have Thomas & Bogut been on the floor at the same time? That seemed unusual.

Failure is just success rounded down.

by TheJay on Mar 28, 2010 9:14 PM CDT reply actions  

40 W and counting.........

Hard to believe that’s 40 wins up with ten games to go!!!!!

Thought it was an interesting comparison with Gay & Salmons to guys who you figure are going try and cash in on the free agency bonanza………….Salmons was back to his deadly efficient silent assassin best today……..hardly noticed him but he came up clutch again and with a minimum of fuss………..Gay’s numbers were also fairly similar and his numbers are good this year and for a guy playing in his contract year he hasnt made to much noise as the Grizzlies have had a good year, which is interesting cos Z-Bo & Mayo tend to need the ball and Conley for some reason thinks he is the best option at the end of a game!!!!!!!!

Also I know its too early to stick it to Thabeet but its kinda hard to watch him stick out there for his 15 mins whilst you look at whom went after him in the draft and how the Grizzlies really need an upgrade at the point………..anyway important contributions from Ilyasova & Ridnour off the bench as the Grizzlies had nothing

Interesting we chucked up a hell of alot of 3’s…….Bogut went 4-7 in the first 12 mins then 3-4 the next 34 mins 4 shots in 34 mins I know Bogut is unselfish in offense but arrggh gotta keep looking for him throughout the game just a waste

And finally ahhh Gadz master of the missed lay up the frightening thing is I was checking out that 2002 draft. It was a kinda of lottery in the real sense and Gadz might even push the top 15 players from that year………..hey he plays as much Mike Dunleavy Jnr right?

by ILIKEBJ'S on Mar 28, 2010 9:18 PM CDT reply actions  

Gadzuric

With every passing game, it gets harder to fathom him cracking the top 60 of any NBA draft.

Failure is just success rounded down.

by TheJay on Mar 28, 2010 10:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

2002 draft

although it did mean that our record of 2nd rounders out performing 1st round draft picks continued however low that bar was in this case, Marcus Haislip………though its nice to have 2nd round draft picks helping out Im not sure that its at all complimentary to our 1st rounders

by ILIKEBJ'S on Mar 29, 2010 1:59 AM CDT reply actions  

I have nothing good to say about Gadzuric

Easily the biggest dissapointment of the weekend was watching him on the floor for 20 minutes on friday. Thank goodness Bogut came back for the sunday game and we were spared watching Gadz and Brezec.

by Benny1982 on Mar 29, 2010 8:35 AM CDT reply actions  

have you eve seen the man in street clothes.

He in 2/3 legs. I believe his belly button is just below his sternum.

The guy is a mess, but there aren’t many people who try harder than Danny Gadz.

Go Beer, I mean Bucks

by Take Back Our Bucks on Mar 29, 2010 9:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

So... How much revitalization vs how much yellow alert?

I heard some of Ted Davis describing the 2nd half. Ted talked muchly about missed 3s. Sounded like The Bad Bucks, who can’t generate any offense except for outside shots, which they are erratic at making. The sometimes Bad Bucks who don’t get the ball to Bogut, or the sometimes Bad Bogut who’s tentative and doesn’t firmly decide what to do with the ball.

But, we did win. And it seems there were multiple good performances. Salmons, Bogut, Jennings, Ersinator, etc.

But #2, it sounded like the Grizz did enough to keep the game very close, but didn’t do enough to win it at the end. Weren’t as strong at the end as a playoff team will be.

So… was this game a piece of evidence that we’ll be a factor in the playoffs? Maybe not win but acquit ourselves well? That the surprising team we’ve seen during The Surge continues?

Or did the game point to the Outside Shooting Achille’s Heel that will likely be our playoff downfall?

by unklchuk on Mar 29, 2010 9:18 AM CDT reply actions  

everything kinda changes

when Jennings is aggressive like today today changes the parameters of what this team can achieve really, allows Bogut to establish himself defensively and not really have to force it on offense which he doesnt seem to like to do…..also it allows Salmons to pick his spots which makes him really a weapon rather than have to force stuff and create himself……must credit Ridnour who seems to be finding a groove again, nice steady hand off the bench………..

Using a handy tool known as StatsCube, numbers crunchers have come up with field-goal percentages from various distances. For example, through Monday, among players with at least 100 attempts from between 15 and 19 feet — the classic “mid-range” shot — the most accurate marksman was Milwaukee’s Luke Ridnour at 56.4 percent, with Hornets point guards Chris Paul (51 percent) and Darren Collison (49.7) third and fifth, respectively. Rookie of the Year favorite Tyreke Evans, at 31.9 percent, was 112th among the 114 players listed, well below the league average of 40.4 from that distance.

But one of Evans’ chief ROY rivals had an even more embarrassing stat. In the “at-the-rim” category of shots from 5 feet and in (minimum of 200 attempts), Milwaukee’s Brandon Jennings was dead last at 39.3, way below the league average of 60.2. LeBron James, Orlando’s Howard and Boston’s Kendrick Perkins were the league’s three most accurate at-the-rim shooters.

by ILIKEBJ'S on Mar 29, 2010 10:03 AM CDT up reply actions  

interesting info

Jennings being able to drive the game makes a BIG difference, I agree. Can he do it in the playoffs? Seems iffy, but overall I’m more optimistic than not.

by unklchuk on Mar 29, 2010 10:11 AM CDT up reply actions  

His (in)ability to score around the cup will really be what determines how good he becomes long-term IMO. His ability to finish when there’s any type of shot challenge has been even worse than I anticipated—and it was something we worried about back in Vegas, so it’s not like it’s out of the blue either. Last night he was able to get going to his left with speed a few times and finish through traffic, which was great to see. A couple of those were when the Bucks were making their comeback in the fourth, but when he’s not doing that he becomes wholly reliant on his jump shot and we all know that’s way too streaky. Part of it is a matter of getting stronger, but I also don’t think he’s shown the ability to beat his man one-on-one as much as advertised. That’s probably at least partly attributable to being so much better going to his left (though his step-back going to his right is useful at times).

His three point shooting has been much better than I expected thankfully, but he’s still not in that “I’ll kill you anytime I have an inch of daylight” category of shooters. Hopefully he keeps improving, but 39% on pretty high volumes is already very good.

by Frank Madden on Mar 29, 2010 11:15 AM CDT up reply actions  

It would definitely help because he’s nowhere near Iverson in terms of ability to make shots around the hoop. Say what you will about Iverson, but his knack for finding ways to score around the hoop was pretty amazing.

by Frank Madden on Mar 30, 2010 10:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

very interesting stuff...

i will take 40% at the rime rather than a higher percentage from mid-range any day… at the rim you can set your teammates up and draw fouls… mid range this is usually not an option…

by Superelkman on Mar 30, 2010 12:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

Id like to see....

how much Ridnour & Jennings actually play together on the court….it’s an interesting combo….against Memphis we finished with Bogut, Illy CK, Salmons, Ridnour & Jennings….viable option for limited minutes I suppose…..Ridnour has been solid the last 5 games as well which is what we need

and having Bogut helps on the defensive end when they have to match up against bigger guards..

yeah totally agree with being imperative that Jennings keeps attacking the basket reagardless of this conversion rate at the rim, makes the Bucks that more dangerous…..again obviously helps if he guys out their like Bogut & Illyasova whom are active on the offensive glass

by ILIKEBJ'S on Mar 30, 2010 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

Depends a lot on the other team's 2

Mayo’s slightly small for a 2 and Conley’s no bigger than Jennings, so you can get away with the little backcourt for extended periods. That’s tougher to do against most teams. Interesting to see how much the Bucks go that direction against the Clips (assuming Delfino doesn’t play).

by Frank Madden on Mar 30, 2010 3:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

true

just wondering with Gordon at SG & Blake at PG tonight with the Clipps we are not talking about the land of the giants as well so it will be interesting……..

managed quite well to shut the Grizzlies down at the death, which was a fair effort considering how Randolph was dominant in the paint all night

just considering some possible lineups that will get thrown up during the playoffs where you can get put on the spot a bit depending on the situation and I assume??? Skiles will trim the rotation which can be a bit of a crap shoot at times for the playoffs or maybe im being optimistic!!

by ILIKEBJ'S on Mar 30, 2010 4:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

I love how Ersan

Somehow manages to make the best and worst plays every time he’s on the court.

He’ll outhustle three guys for a loose ball, and then airball a wide open three. It cracks me up.

by ZV on Mar 29, 2010 9:36 AM CDT reply actions  

The Ersan giveth and the Ersan taketh away. Collectively, however, he brings more to the table than he takes off of it, as ’lil Billy Simmons would say.

Chicks Dig The Long Ball.

by ILuvDaBush on Mar 29, 2010 11:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

he's kind of like Kevin Mench was for the Brewers

\but much better.

Mench would biff on an infield pop or duff a throw over to Prince, but would always come back the same game and knock a dinger everytime he screwed up

Go Beer, I mean Bucks

by Take Back Our Bucks on Mar 29, 2010 9:39 AM CDT reply actions  

gotta love Ersan

its kinda like watching a young colt trying to run for the first time, all enthusiasm and heart, uncoordinated limbs flailing all over the place, then suddenly it will click and he will make that great play………I still dream of that 28 ft 3 pointer against Sacramento to tie the game…….

exactly what we need off the bench, something is going to happen when he comes onto the court, and at times we can be a bit passive especially when Jennings is having a slow night

by ILIKEBJ'S on Mar 29, 2010 9:50 AM CDT reply actions  

was out of town so I couldn't catch this one on league pass much to my disappointment...

I’m glad Jennings shot selection is improving and that he showed some aggressiveness… he played so awful last game this is nice to see him bounce back against a pretty good memphis team… He really needs to stop taking those step back 20 footers which are the worst shot in basketball. I’d rather see him go to the rim and get blocked an extra two times a game than take those shots with consistency. So many good things happen when you PG gets to the rim. Drawing fouls, taking defenders off their guys opening up offensive boards, etc.

Ersan is, has been, and will continue to be my favorite Buck this year. He is the epitome of a smart, hard-working player and maximizes his talent to the fullest. There have been too many times to count this year occurences where ’Sova tips a loose ball or rebound to a teammate, hits a sweet open jumper by hustling to get in position, plays pesky defense. I love the way he plays and hope he is a Buck for life.

Lets hold on to a top-6 seed… the Heat are charging right now but thankfully we have the tie breaker with them. Should be a fun stretch run…

by Superelkman on Mar 29, 2010 2:26 PM CDT reply actions  

Bulls have the 12th worst record right now...

looking pretty good that we will be able to swap picks with them… Almost no way they can jump into the top 10 anymore unless they win one of the 1st 3 picks….

by Superelkman on Mar 29, 2010 2:32 PM CDT reply actions  

Aye Carumba!!!!

Just checking the Heats schedule and well its kind of like they get to play against themselves except they have D-Wade and their mirror image team doesnt………does that make sense? maybe this will explain it:

Detroit(a)
Indiana(a)
Minnesota(a)
Philadelphia(h)
Detroit(h)
New York(a)
Philadelphia(a)
New Jersey(h)

by ILIKEBJ'S on Mar 29, 2010 2:49 PM CDT reply actions  

Playoffs are going to be an adjustment for the Heat after that.

by Alex Boeder on Mar 29, 2010 9:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

Flo Ridas

Especially if they get their state rivals in the first round. Outside of Brook Lopez and Al Jefferson, does Jermaine O’Neal get any challenge? “But I was going 25-15 over my last 10 games….”

Chicks Dig The Long Ball.

by ILuvDaBush on Mar 29, 2010 11:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

brand + speights, david lee, troy murphy...

not much of a challenge, although speights can beast it up some nights and murphy can take O’Neal away from the basket

by Superelkman on Mar 30, 2010 12:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

their opponents aren't great but 5 road games helps us...

Even though those teams are cupcakes, I’d expect a couple unexpected losses to some lesser teams…

by Superelkman on Mar 30, 2010 12:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

yes quite the adjustment although..............

it might help convince D-Wades running partners hey we arent that bad after all so it might be helpful confidence wise……….ahh Jermaine O’Neal another soon to join member of the soon to be Tracy McGrady, Michael Redd club of I used to earn 20 million a season and I never won anything my whole professional career expiring contract club

by ILIKEBJ'S on Mar 29, 2010 11:31 PM CDT reply actions  

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