It's March...and the Bucks are still good?
I normally only get to do one "Whoa, the Bucks are actually good!" post per year, and unfortunately it's usually in November. You probably know the drill: the Bucks jump out to a semi-promising start; nervous optimism ensues; plane crashes into mountain about a week later.
But hey, at least there's been consistency. Since we started this website/self-help group in 2007, the first month or two of the season have always provided at least some mostly misplaced hope. Believe it or not, November 2007 offered an opportunity to say nice things about Larry Krystkowiak's coaching (they were 7-4!), while in 2008 we still had some good feelings in late December (one game out of the playoff hunt!).
So it was only natural for the Bucks to offer us some early-season optimism back in November, though the Brandon Jennings Effect meant more talk about Jennings than the Bucks' 8-3 start to the season. But as Scott Skiles told Charles Gardner this week, the Bucks' reaction to their early season success probably wasn't the real story--instead, it's how the Bucks handled the slump that saw them drop 15 of 19 games between November 23 and December 30.
"Sort of the M.O. of our franchise the last several years has been to get down, fall behind a little bit and boom, just cave. And the season's over by now.
"To sum it all up, we didn't quit, and at least we've given ourselves the opportunity to have a very good season. And now we have to take advantage of that with a quarter of the season left to play."
And so here we are, a whopping 62 games into the season and the Bucks are not only in the playoff race, but among the league's hottest teams at 33-29, the fifth seed in the East, and winners of nine of ten. How'd we get here anyway?
If there was a bottoming out point for the 09/10 Bucks, it happened in late December--which was especially awesome given I was home for Christmas and got to see all of them up close. The Bucks lost games against the Lakers, Cavs, and Kings by a combined margin of five points, which added to the whole "can't win close games" frustration that had been a hallmark of the first two months. They may have rebounded with a nervous road win in Indiana, but two absolute clunkers at home against the Wizards and Spurs followed by rather uncompetitive road losses in Charlotte and Orlando erased any holiday warm and fuzzies rather abruptly. And thus the 8-3 Bucks had morphed into the 12-18 Bucks by the end of calendar year 2009. In a sad way, order had been restored.
But give the Bucks credit: they've shown the ability to bounce back from losses all season and they've looked like a different team in the new year. Well, maybe not a different team, but at least a much better version of the squad that faceplanted at the end of 2009. At the end of December, the Bucks ranked just 25th in offensive efficiency (102.3 pts/100 possessions) and a very respectable 7th defensively (103.9 pts/100), and the relative story is similar today, just...better. They trail only the Celtics and Lakers in defensive efficiency (102.8 pts/100) and have upped their offensive efficiency by more than two pts/100 (104.5 pts/100). They still rank just 23rd in the NBA in that category, but it's still progress and they've been dramatically improved of late. Though the defense has allowed about three fewer pts/100 over the past 32 games, the offense has improved even more, adding four points/100 over the first two months' performance.
Offensively it's not hard to see what has changed. The Bucks have benefited greatly from an unselfish, inside-out balance keyed by Jennings' improving game management and the anchor provided by Bogut's post presence, with John Salmons' adding some much-needed shot-creating ability since he arrived 10 games ago [note: in retrospect it's funny how I never even thought to talk about Michael Redd while writing this--see sdsowlsa comment below. Say a lot, no?] Jeremy has a good post on the Bucks' assist/to numbers over the past few years, and the crisp offense we've been seeing on the court is also reflected in the numbers. In the last 10 games the Bucks lead the NBA in assist differential, racking up nearly seven more assists per game than their opponents. In that span they also boast the league's best scoring differential (+11.6 pts/game), the lowest opponent fg% (42.1%), and the league's second-best rebounding differential (+6.1 rpg). Good defense + good defense = profit. Who knew?
The main irony is that the Bucks' offensive revitalization has coincided with Jennings' horrific shooting slump, though his care of the ball and game management have been remarkably good of late. Even after his 25 point effort against Cleveland, Jennings has seen his fg% fall every month of the season--a pretty mind-boggling feat considering he only shot 32.4% in January but has somehow managed to worsen that number in both February (30.7%) and March (30.3% through three games).
Another interesting footnote to the Bucks' success has been the slower pace at which they've been playing. Through December they had ranked 11th in the league in possessions/game (93.4), but have now dropped down to 15th (92.6). That surprises me somewhat because it seems like the Bucks are getting more buckets in transition--as I write this I've got visions of Jennings flying up and down the court, dishing to hustling teammates for easy buckets. And indeed, they've been well above their season average with 18 fast break pts/game over the last three, but they're still fourth from the bottom overall in that category (10.9 pts/game). However, those falling pace numbers could also be attributable to good defense forcing longer opponent shot clock usage, more offensive rebounds by either team (thus keeping possessions alive), and the Bucks' using more clock themselves in the halfcourt. Indeed, the Bucks' offensive rebound rate has increased since January 1, but they still rank just 19th in the league in that category. The pace numbers could also be a reflection of the renewed focus on getting Bogut post touches, which tends to lead to longer possessions.
Defensively, the Bucks' ability to force opponent misses is not surprisingly a big deal. Since Skiles took over, the Bucks have generally been among the league's better teams in terms of forcing turnovers (1st last year, 4th this year) and defensive rebounding (11th and 3rd), which are two of the three basic ways you prevent the other team from scoring. But aside from preventing shots (by forcing TOs) and not allowing second chances (by grabbing defensive rebounds) the Bucks generally have been middle of the road at the most basic part of defense--making teams miss. Last year they ranked just 17th in eFG% (50.2%), but their current run has seen them crack the top ten in that category (48.7%, 9th). Obvious credit goes to Andrew Bogut, whose defense we've already singled out for praise. Bogut's shot-blocking has increased every month this season, in the Bucks' 9-1 run he's averaged a remarkable 3.8 blocks per game, upping his season average to 2.4 bpg. But not to be overlooked is the return of Luc Mbah a Moute to the starting PF spot, where his mobility, rebounding, and harassing defense has complemented the big fella's shot blocking rather nicely. The Bucks' big weakness remains at the foul line, where they still rank dead last offensively and second-to-last defensively in free throw rate, but even that gap has narrowed a bit the past couple months.
With 19 games left, the Bucks need just nine wins to record their first winning season since George Karl's last season in 02/03, which given the overall middling level of talent on the roster speaks volumes about the work Skiles has done in his second year. Skiles deservedly won Eastern Conference Coach of the Month in February, and if the Bucks can continue their surprising run to the playoffs he'll demand serious consideration for coach of the year honors when all is said and done. From Bucks fans everywhere, there's just one thing to say: thanks.
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Nice article as usual Frank...
" In the last 10 games the Bucks lead the NBA in assist differential, racking up nearly seven more assists per game than their opponents. "
This is very evident… the Bucks have been doing a great job of sharing the ball as of late…
A Great Read
Casual Bucks fan here. The entire product is a buy this year, thanks for putiing it into perspective. Glue guys like Ridnour lead talented role playing gymrats like Luc Mbah. Bogut is having a consistent year. I groaned when the Bucks hired Skiles, I wanted Rick Carlisle. Now I applaud the effort and execution and excitement this season has provided.
A very good article
I really hope the Bucks can finish the season strongly and do some damage on the playoffs
insert aussie stereotype here
“If there was a bottoming out point for the 09/10 Bucks, it happened in late December—which was especially awesome given I was home for Christmas and got to see all of them up close.”
This sums up my bucks experience this year. I don’t no why we get the t-wolves at UWEC. Its hard to appreciate the bucks five minutes at a time on a grainy computer screen.
Friends don't let friends be cub fans
Frank, you forgot one thing...
Mike Redd got hurt…. and the Bucks got bettter! Record with Redd: 6 – 12. Record without Redd: 27 – 17. There is really not that much else to say, besides he is an extremely selfish player, does not play team ball, thinks he “needs” to get his own shots, regardless of the situation, and basically can’t guard anyone. I mean, he is fat, does some strange form when he quickly fires line drives at the basket (my brother and I call it the “Crazy K”, based on the form his body takes), and is just plain detrimental to the team. I was very glad when he was injured, not because I want him to fail or be in pain, but because I knew the Bucks would be able to play the way they are meant to play: Jennings and Bogut, and now Salmons, and a bunch of tough, hard-working role players. Looking forward to the Bucks beating the Celtics/NBA/Referees in the first round!
It’s kind of funny because I’m at the point where I don’t even think of him being part of the team. When we play a team with a bunch of injuries my first reaction is always “wow, glad we don’t have any of those” and then a minute later I remember our highest paid player is out for the season. It would have been interesting to see what the Bucks would have been like with a truly healthy Redd, but we never got to see that this year. He just was never right, though with Salmons around even the old Redd is essentially redundant.
by Frank Madden on Mar 8, 2010 10:58 PM CST up reply actions
Unrealistic expectations...
Not of the team, but of this article. I like the writing here – the point of view, the analysis, the humor, the overall tone and balance. So when the first page of this article seemed spot on, I clicked hoping to read a brilliant summation of just what the Bucks have become. Just how much of the current success is surge (a hot streak), and how much is put-it-in-the-bank reality.
I did read good analysis of what the team is doing well, and how its measuring up in the league. Thank you. But I’ve been pondering and wondering what to make of all these victories, the brilliant team play and surprising development of many players. But I finished the article still not sure how good this team will be next week, next month, and in the presumed playoffs. Looking for that answer was, as I say, probably unrealistic expectations. We have to watch the games to see…
I really don't know to be honest
I think the combination of Bogut, Skiles and Jennings is something to feel good about going forward, but I still have a hard time looking at the overall talent on the roster developing into a 50-win team next year. And to me that’s just a testament to what Skiles has accomplished with what he has. That’s the danger of overachieving…good enough to make the playoffs, but not good enough to ever do any damage once you’re there. Hammond’s work is certainly far from done, but the results so far speak for themselves.
by Frank Madden on Mar 9, 2010 12:24 AM CST up reply actions
Lets just enjoy the run and worry about that in due time...
Hammonds has done and will continue to improve this squad. This draft looks to be deep in the spots we need. I want a playoff birth and then we will worry about improving in the offseason. The good thing is that since we have a young core we should get better based on those guys developing. I think we get considerably better once Jennings can consistently shoot over 40%. Not because he needs to score a ton… but because he needs that threat to be there to be an even better distributor.
For the first time in years...
most Bucks fans are looking forward to the next game and/or the next article about them, including Brewhoop. We had 2 full days of rest and Frank couldnt even contain himself to wait to write the game 63 preview that he had to write this article before it….I love it. This year’s team has many new pieces so we don’t know what to expect the rest of the season, but we all agree that making the playoffs and giving our opponents hard rubs at least would qualify as a successful year. Even die hard Brewers fans mention the Bucks to me before ranting about the upcoming baseball season.
Speaking of the Bucks record while attending games I almost consider myself somewhat of a jinx. I left the Midwest after their 2001 East Finals run, and they have sucked pretty much since then. Granted I only get to attend their west coast games (including Phoenix and Portland this year), which they are lucky to win 1 or 2 a year. Hopefully next week’s trip they can pull out at least one win for me against those pesky Clippers, LROY Tyreke’s Kings, or those almost unbeatable at home Nuggets.
Also can people stop writing about how much better our record is without Redd please? We all know this. It’s shame he isnt healthy. Look what he did a few years ago in his all-star year with barely any talent. Imagine that Redd with this group and him heading into a contract year. I know…what if
Sorry for the long rant. One last note. Speaking about Rick Carlisle above, why does he always look so mad even during their last game when they smashed the Twolves and won their 11th in a row? It must be a hard life getting mistaken all the time for actor Jim Carey.
Even Skiles will crack a smile sometimes…though half the time it’s more of a smirk.
by Frank Madden on Mar 9, 2010 10:34 AM CST up reply actions
"Also can people stop writing about how much better our record is without Redd please?"
Absolutely not… Redd screws up the flow of the offense and is a liability as a defender… it is not coincidence that the Bucks are a much better team without him….
seriously
i can’t think of too many players who are more selfish than Mike Redd. Even a 20 year old Brandon Jennings had to tell him to calm down when he was throwing up one of his Crazy-K’s at an crucial moment this year (a game, of course, the Bucks lost). This must be said, and if you don’t realize that he has no place on the current Bucks team of hard-working, unselfish players, than I don’t understand why you are a fan of this team.
I agree with you guys...
just tough seeing Redd go out like this as a Milwaukee Buck. If he had been traded already he would have been seen by most fans in a more positive light. Tough being the highest paid player on a bad team. Just like we broke up the Big 3 before any of them were still on a mediocre Bucks, it would have been nice for that to have happen to Redd.
"I don't know" is a darn good answer
Wouldn’t be surprised if Hammond & Skiles might be looking at each other and wondering just what they’ve got. Changing the team culture, hard effort consistently, players refining their games to what they do productively, playing above-and-beyond defense – that’s all stuff they’ve been holding up as goals. But to achieve this current level this soon would seem to be surprising for them as well. (If it’s just what they knew they could accomplish, then they are a special breed.)
Scattered thoughts:
• I’m feeling better and better about Jennings; think he’s making his team noticeably better and I expect to really enjoy his continuing play.
- Over-achieving is not the solidest of platforms to operate on; it can be a real beginning, but I’d agree that Hammond’s work is clearly not half over. Over-achieving can be a great supporting actor, but talent is the star of the show.
• Yes, it can be a trap being good enough to not get better, stuck in middling. But my expectation (hope?) is that it does NOT have to play that way for our team. The way the Bucks have been in recent years, “middling” will be an achievement that the league and the free agents will notice. Middling will give them upward momentum, and Hammond should be able to build on that. Good things can happen to a team with upward momentum, especially when they play team ball like we have been. We need more talent, but we want team-oriented talent, and that kind of talent will note what we have going here. - All predictions are highly subject to the law of unintended happenings with unintended consequences. Best perhaps to stay in the moment, and enjoy what is. Thanks to Brew Hoop for helping us do that.
Why Skiles wanted Stackhouse?
The other forum posted this URL of Jerry Stackhouse “interacting” with Shaquille O’Neal.
Shaquille O’Neal must have done something to disgruntle his opponents, and you see Stackhouse eyeing O’Neal with comments and an edge to his expression. Then you see O’Neal attempting a dunk.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xrQd9u7TRk&feature=related
I’m not much for on-court machismo but I admit that Stackhouse does tough avenger with cool and intentionality.
That's fantastic
I had totally forgotten about that…how many guards have ever managed to plant Shaq on his rear end? How many 7’1" guys for that matter?
I didn’t foresee Stackhouse being such a useful addition, but that was definitely a great move by Hammond/Skiles. He turns it over way too much and he’s obviously not starting material at this point, but he’s fit in pretty seamlessly on both ends. It’s been a big help to have a guy who can go on 6-8 minute scoring binges with the second unit.
by Frank Madden on Mar 9, 2010 10:41 AM CST up reply actions
It's good to get it from a guard
that was the role that Hakim Warrick served, but after Stack came in, that scoring wasn’t needed out of the low post, and the team could play as well defensively and get that spark off the bench that Warrick provided for them, w/o the defensive liability
Go Beer, I mean Bucks
by Take Back Our Bucks on Mar 9, 2010 11:03 AM CST up reply actions
Warrick was overrated IMO...
He scored in bunches but wasn’t really that effective at it… he was a solid option but nothing to write home about…

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