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Cavs 101, Bucks 98: Milwaukee can't finish the job in Cleveland

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OK, so how do you want to take this one?

If you're an optimist, then consider that the Bucks took the league's best team down to the final 10 seconds for the second time in as many tries in Cleveland.  John Salmons helped the Bucks weather some blistering Cavalier shot-making in the early going, and the Bucks' reserves helped Milwaukee fight back from a 10-point deficit late in the third quarter. It wasn't just that the Bucks were hanging around--they were actually leading by four with three minutes left at the Q. And all that despite some refereeing that was, well, not exactly doing the Bucks any favors.

Consider yourself a pessimist?  Well, there was plenty to gripe about as well.  As much as we might complain about the refs, there's no question Cleveland was the more aggressive team all night long, though they also helped the Bucks out by missing four straight free throws at one point in the final minutes.  And for every big shot the Bucks made in the middle of the fourth--Ilyasova knocking down a pair of jumpers in the corner and Stackhouse, Ridnour and Salmons all burying big threes--there were also plenty of missed opportunities late in the game.  Bogut missed a layup that would have extended Milwaukee's lead to five with 2:25 remaining. Ilyasova missed a wide-open triple with 55 seconds left and the Bucks leading by two.  With 13 seconds left and the Bucks down two, the Bucks curiously ran a play that trapped Salmons in the corner, where J.J. Hickson stripped the ball off Salmons' knee.  And with the Bucks trailing by three and no timeouts, Ridnour squandered the final possession by meekly throwing a cross-court pass that LeBron James (who was merely good rather than great for the night) picked off to seal the Cavs' 33rd home win in 37 tries.

Either way, the Bucks played well enough to have their chances down the stretch--about as much as you can hope for in a gym like Cleveland's.  For that they deserve some credit, but there's also no question that they didn't take advantage of those chances when it mattered most.  Progress?  Maybe.  But with Miami just a half game back there's no longer much time for silver linings.

Star-divide

Three Bucks

John Salmons: 43 min, 28 pts, 9/16 fg, 3/7 threes, 7/7 ft, 7 ast, 5 reb, 1 stl, 3 to
I've always viewed Anthony Parker as a solid defender, but then again I'm also not entirely sure how I got that impression in the first place.  Wherever it came from, Salmons didn't have too much trouble getting wherever he wanted against Parker all night, slithering into the lane and around the cup with ease en route to another big scoring night.

Andrew Bogut: 33 min, 19 pts, 9/17 fg, 1/2 ft, 12 reb, 3 ast, 2 blk, 3 to
Bogut's struggles on back-to-backs are well-chronicled, so it's tough to complain too much about a 19/12 night, though the absence of Shaq and Anderson Varejao left the Cavs fairly shorthanded up front.  Bogut dealt with a steady diet of double teams and wasn't entirely convincing even when single-covered, but he managed enough garbage buckets and got enough help from his teammates to put together a solid line.

Luke Ridnour: 29 min, 11 pts, 5/13 fg, 1/4 threes, 11 ast, 3 reb, 2 to
Brandon Jennings started promsingly enough, picking Mo Williams' pocket for a layup and burying a three in the game's first five minutes.  Then he got hit for a couple unnecessary fouls on Mo and he didn't score again.  Fortunately, part of that was because Skiles had the luxury of riding Ridnour, who contributed not so much with hot shooting (5/13 fg definitely doesn't quaify) but by marshaling the offense and keeping the ball moving against a Cavs team that looked a bit slower in their rotations than usual.

Three Numbers

+36.  The Cavs absolutely destroyed the Bucks at the line, going 36/45 from the stripe compared to just 8/9 from the Bucks. I'm not big on conspiracy theories, but I'll admit a handful of the fouls called against the Bucks were fairly frustrating.  But let's not fool ourselves--referees alone can't come close to accounting for this kind of FT differential, and the aggressiveness differential between the two teams is a problem we've seen on all too many occasions this season.

42-27.  The Bucks got a boost from their reserves, as Ridnour, Ilyasova and Kurt Thomas all cracked double digits en route to a +15 edge in bench scoring.

7.  As we know from his days in Milwaukee, Mo Williams doesn't get to the line much.  Well, usually.  So it was symbolic of the night's struggles that Mo finished 7/8 from the stripe, the first time he's had more than five FTA in a game since Christmas Day.

Two Good

Slammin' Salmons.  Another big night from Salmons, who continues to look startlingly like a #1 scoring option.  That should also pay dividends late in games down the stretch, though Salmons' couldn't conjure up enough late-game heroics tonight.

Consistency.  The Bucks couldn't make enough plays in the final minutes, but in general it's tough to knock the effort level and execution they showed for the vast majority of the night.  Cleveland has more than enough firepower to run most teams out of the building, but the Bucks--starters and reserves alike--kept their composure and gave themselves a chance to win it.  It was in many ways similar to the Bucks' surprise victory in Denver--only Cleveland was better than the Nuggets and it showed in the final scoreline.

Three Bad

Mo'd down.  After a brutal performance in Milwaukee that had Jennings chirping throughout, Mo got revenge with 21 points on 12 shots, six dimes, and no turnovers.  He blew by Jennings with ease on a number of occasions and forced the rookie into two early fouls that seemed to completely derail his evening.

Missing CarlosCharlie Bell valiantly worked to keep James from single-handedly destroying the Bucks, while Stackhouse hit a couple big threes and had the unenviable task of defending James in the final minutes.  That said....Bell missed all five of his shots and Stackhouse was just 2/7 from the field in addition to his customary three turnovers in 25 minutes. Carlos Delfino may not be a world-beater, but the Bucks need him back in the lineup if only to limit the number of minutes demanded of Bell and Stackhouse.

Finishing. Though still probably their Achilles' heel, the Bucks' inability to finish games hasn't been too noticeable of late.  But there's something about watching Lebron James and the Cavs which reminds you just how good you don't have it in late-game situations.

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I'm more optimist than pessimist...

My take: we knew the Bucks need to be tougher. Need to learn how to win at the end of tough games against talented opponents. Need to figure out how to function under pressure – a situation that’s new to younger players and new to a team that had little chance to learn because until recently they’ve been BAD. (Bad teams just lose; they don’t as often find themselves in make-or-break moments.)

Anyway, the Bucks have to learn how to win close games. Skiles post-game comments were crystal clear that he was going to teach big-time with this game. Going to hold up a “mirror” to his players and make sure they understand how they fell short at the end of the game. I think that’s valuable.

In my view, Skiles has now “changed the culture” one more time. He now demands that his players act like winners.

It’s hard making sense this early in the morning (up for an early meeting) but I thought the long Skiles commentary after the game was just the ticket. Over-simplified, he said we played tough and well in lots of areas but we messed up big-time at the end. For this team, now, that’s unacceptable. We’ll learn from this.

Bravo. He’s basically saying: it’s time to be men. If he can push them to develop the toughness he now demands, this loss will be a Victory…

by unklchuk on Apr 1, 2010 6:02 AM CDT reply actions  

Also an optimist...

Gave the Cavs all they could handle at their place.

Did anyone else think that was a dick move by LaBron at the end? Stealing the ball and then trying to draw a foul with a 3 point lead in the closing seconds in order to pad his stats – and then bitching about the no-call? Not sure if he was really bitching, but he looked irritated that he didn’t get the call.

by brandonh981 on Apr 1, 2010 8:07 AM CDT reply actions  

saw that...

I always like when stars stay with their teams being a fan of a small market team but I really hope LeBron goes to the Knicks and never does anything there. That way this division is more for the taking.

by Superelkman on Apr 1, 2010 8:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

Crabbing about the fouls calls is lame...45 to 9??

This stat alone is misleading….

 1. Cavs went to the rim…Bucks shot jumpers.

2. Bucks fouled purposely in the final minutes= 6 FT shot attempts

3. Bucks fouled purposely on Cavs breakaways/dunk attempts= 12 FT shot attempts

Really liked the one were Ridnour attempted to tackle James “high” on the shoulders. LOL

Fouls against called: Cavs 12, Bucks 29

 

I'm Polish...what's your excuse?

by Juannieboy on Apr 1, 2010 9:44 AM CDT up reply actions  

+36

too big of a disparity to not raise eyebrows. I’ll go ahead and say that the Bucks got Donaghy’d.

"That's not a weird stat. Rickie is a run-scorer," Yost said. "It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter," Yost told reporters. "See, you guys have no concept. He's a run-scorer. So there's nothing weird about it. That's what he does."

by Hyatt on Apr 1, 2010 8:23 AM CDT reply actions  

I could only watch this in bits and pieces but the Bucks fought pretty hard in this one….

I wasn’t watching closely enough to see if the FT thing was warranted or not but the Bucks players were sure pissed about it after the game…

Gotta beat the Bobcats on Friday… I’d rather have that one than this one…

by Superelkman on Apr 1, 2010 8:30 AM CDT reply actions  

I think a couple of calls where eyebrow raising.........

and basically Salmons was the the only one savvy/lucky enough to draw many fouls, but that kinda supported how he played………….two turnovers on the last three plays was the killer……also Delfino’s all round contribution was sorely missing

big game against the Bobcats’, yeah this is one we need to grab

by ILIKEBJ'S on Apr 1, 2010 8:57 AM CDT reply actions  

Does anyone think...

that maybe Jennings should have played more? I know Luke Ridnour is a solid backup, but isn’t he just that, a backup? I know Jennings had a rough start, and wasn’t defending great, but that on a few of the last possessions Ridnour seemed tentative and then ended up turning the ball over at the end.

I’m not saying it was all his fault because he played great for most of the game, but with Young Buck being the future of the franchise, and playing pretty decent lately, I wonder how the game would have ended had Jennings been leading the team the last 3 minutes and change. Opinions?

by JoshN on Apr 1, 2010 9:25 AM CDT reply actions  

absolutely

I know Jennings has to dedicate serious time in the off season on lateral quickness training. But one thing I think he already has, is the heart to take big shots, and make plays to win games. In his mind nobody nobody can stop him. He just has that mentality and you have to put him in situations to learn how to execute and utilize that heart when it matters most. Ridnour has it sometimes, but the swagger and determination is there in Jennings. Hopefully Scott is just letting it fester in him at the moment in hopes of channeling his drive to become better now at his weaknesses that make him a liability on the floor on defense. I just have a feeling that Jennings came to the game with heroics in mind, you kind of could see it in his play early on.

by the mil on Apr 1, 2010 10:04 AM CDT up reply actions  

questionable calls came early

In the first quarter when the Cavs looked like they were sputtering, all of sudden the Bucks started getting called for ticky tack fouls. I think it started with a questionable blocking foul on Luc Richard when he actually was set took the charge outside the circle.

by the mil on Apr 1, 2010 10:05 AM CDT reply actions  

onto Salmons........

and the hits just keep rolling…what to do…….what to do

by ILIKEBJ'S on Apr 1, 2010 12:07 PM CDT reply actions  

i have said this before and will again...

Salmons has really played his way into warranting an extension next season even though he is, and will be, 30 when the season ends I wouldn’t mind extending him for 3 years. Salmons has the skill set to age more gracefully than others as he doesn’t rely on superior athleticism and quicks to be effective and is a solid shooter with a solid basketball IQ

He is averaging 5 FTA a game with us and does so well at integrating into the offense when we need him to and getting his own when we need him to. Plus he is a good guy and a positive veteran influence on this team.

by Superelkman on Apr 1, 2010 12:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

if I was wasnt such a cynical prick I might just be sold

as hard as it is im not ready to give it away just yet to JS but a rollicking play-off campaign may leave me just giddy enough to pony up….thankfully John Hammonds has the key and I dont

by ILIKEBJ'S on Apr 1, 2010 12:34 PM CDT reply actions  

where do you get the impression he is a cynical prick? i have never gotten this impression from him before, he seems quiet and reserved but i haven't seen the cynicism

true… it’s tough because if you take a step back and look at this numbers over the last 5 years he is a very slightly above average offensive player… defensively he seems to do pretty well, IMO

Overall, I think he is a slightly above average player who fits in superbly on this team…

No more than 3 years should be given to him and I don’t want Hammond to overpay but he is a guy I would like back…

by Superelkman on Apr 1, 2010 12:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

haha gives me something to work on..........

I am warming to Salmons on a 3 year tour of duty……….in the end its pretty much deductive guess work isnt it……….figure in the guy, his strengths his weaknesses, the environment- his team, his comfortability, his competiveness, the coach, etc etc and you take an educated guess right?? In the end its a bit of everything and a whole bit of luck??? I dont know

by ILIKEBJ'S on Apr 1, 2010 2:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

45 FTs to 9.

I can hear my blood pressure rising.

by SoCalBucksFan on Apr 1, 2010 12:47 PM CDT reply actions  

regarding Salmons...........

you can only ignore so much good play, I mean I know its smart to save money and look for value for money deals

but obviously he has proved a great fit, supremely efficient in the scheme of Bucks basketball, and his heads up to what the team needs, he can sit back and fit in but when we need a basket he can take the ball and do something, a pretty big factor on this squad, hits his ft’s, can hit the big three

Id rather we spend whatever money on him rather than a guy like Gooden, who is earning 4.5m this year, I think for that athletic rebounding guy we can look for a guy who is hungry and can be had for a reasonable salary

also the argument that he is 30 I wouldnt pay so much attention to, he has been a relatively late developer, Id take a 3 year deal as a fair one, but the only thing is plenty of teams will be throwing money around and with this q-uality of pay he may be pricing himself into another unappealing bracket?

by ILIKEBJ'S on Apr 1, 2010 1:12 PM CDT reply actions  

I suppose after all is said and done id be comfortable with the Bucks if we re-signed Salmons and brought him back

if we don’t in all likelihood it’s a step back for a team that has taken great strides forward this year

obviously the caveat being you look at whats available, and what deals are going down, etc etc

by ILIKEBJ'S on Apr 1, 2010 1:24 PM CDT reply actions  

also.....

say you slightly overpay Salmons its kinda covered in that we have Redd/Gadz off the books next year…………Delfino & the Turkish Delight are under great deals, Bogut is locked down, so there is some room to move

by ILIKEBJ'S on Apr 1, 2010 1:29 PM CDT reply actions  

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