Bogut leaves Suns game with serious elbow injury
by Frank Madden on Apr 3, 2010 9:43 PM CDT
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Has Andrew Bogut's breakout season come to an agonizing end? Bogut suffered a gruesome fall on his right arm after a breakaway dunk and foul on Amare Stoudemire in the second quarter, losing his grip on the rim as his body went horizontal to the floor. His right arm was caught under his body as he went crashing to the floor, and Bogut immediately yelled as he writhed on the court in pain. Stoudemire was assessed a flagrant foul for nudging Bogut as he went up, but Brandon Jennings took the free throw as it was immediately obvious Bogut would not be able to continue.
Bogut was taken by ambulance to the hospital, though Gery Woelfel offered at least a glimmer of hope with this follow-up tweet:
Andrew Bogut has slightly dislocated elbow. X_rays show no broken bones. Will have additional tests.
You can watch a replay of the injury above, though honestly I can't bear to watch after seeing it happen live. While we're obviously hoping for the best, it's difficult to see Bogut coming back anytime soon--which would also mean the Bucks' hopes of making noise in the first round of the playoffs are pretty much toast as well.
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Get well soon, Andrew
Rules question: a flagrant foul allows the fouled team to choose the shooter? If it had been a regular foul, the Suns would have been able to pick, correct? I remember Daniel Santiago came in to shoot the FTs when TJ Ford was hurt.
Failure is just success rounded down.
If a player is injured upon being fouled and cannot shoot free throws, the offensive team may designate any player from the bench to shoot in the place of the injured player in college; in the NBA, the opposing team designates the player to shoot, and the injured player can’t return, unless the foul committed was a flagrant-2, in which case the player’s own team also gets to pick the replacement shooter. If a player fouled takes exception to the foul, and starts or participates in a fight, and gets ejected, he or she is not allowed to take his or her free throws, and the opposing team will choose a replacement shooter. In all other circumstances, the fouled player must shoot his or her own foul shots.
Not sure why the Bucks got to pick given Stoudemire was assessed a flagrant 1, not a 2.
by Frank Madden on Apr 3, 2010 10:09 PM CDT up reply actions
The rule was changed
Flagrant Fouls – Penalty 1
2005-06 Rule: If a flagrant foul/penalty 1 is called and the fouled player is unable due to injury to shoot his free-throws, the opposing team’s coach selects a replacement free-throw shooter from among the players on the fouled player’s bench, and the injured player is not permitted to return to the game.
2006-07 Rule: If a flagrant foul/penalty 1 is called and the fouled player is unable due to injury to shoot his free-throws, his team’s coach (not the opposing team’s coach) selects a replacement free-throw shooter from among players on the floor (not players on the bench) at the time of the foul, and the injured player is not permitted to return to the game.
Thanks for the clarification
And for what it’s worth, I couldn’t care less about Stoudemire’s involvement. It’s obviously dangerous to make any contact with a guy from behind, but whatever contact wasn’t intended maliciously. Sadly, Drew tried to help himself by hanging on the rim but it actually made it much worse.
What’s done is done…now we just have to hope it’s not as bad as it looked.
by Frank Madden on Apr 3, 2010 10:23 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm just hoping Woelfel is right
Bucks haven’t confirmed anything…not sure how Woelfel got that info.
by Frank Madden on Apr 3, 2010 11:15 PM CDT up reply actions
Woelfel is usually pretty reliable
He’s been around the Bucks forever, I’m assuming he’s got some sources.
by dishingoutdimes on Apr 3, 2010 11:21 PM CDT up reply actions
From 1250 WSSP, posted in JSOnline Comments:
Andrew Bogut sustained a right elbow injury and left tonight’s game in the 2nd quarter. WSSP Basketball Insider Gery Woelfel has confirmed with Bucks officials that Bogut has suffered a dislocated elbow but x-rays show no broken bones.
by dishingoutdimes on Apr 3, 2010 11:25 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm listening to WSSP right now...
Woelfel standing by the original report, not sure when they got those x-rays in that he reported. No test results yet, you can only hope there’s no significant structural damage…probably need to wait for tomorrow am. Fingers crossed for Drew.
by Frank Madden on Apr 3, 2010 11:33 PM CDT up reply actions
Posterior elbow dislocation, out for season most likely
My wife is a med student and just watching that replay she saw Bogut has a posterior elbow dislocation. He won’t be back in time for the playoffs unless the Bucks advance.
How serious would she guess it was?
I’m kind of resigned to Bogut not being back this season, but at this point I’m just hoping it’s a one month injury rather than a six month thing.
blazer fan here. Sorry for the terrible sickening feeling of watching your center go down with a major injury in the midst of a break out season. We know a thing or two about that.
Hope Bogut recovers fully from this and has a great season next year.
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Celtics fan here. That's not a good thing.
Everyone around the league was rooting for the Bucks to get far. Maybe not against their own teams, but at least as far into the playoffs as possible.
I really don’t like seeing clubs lose important players due to injuries, and this one is just … nasty.
Hope you guys can find a way to cope with this loss, but first and foremost, let’s hope Andrew is going to be alright.
Man that looked horrible.
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Nets fan here. I felt nauseous watching the incident.
Not only am I a Nets fan, I’m Australian. I live about 25-30 minutes away from where Andrew grew up. I have run in to him a few times, but I can’t say I know him personally. What I will say though is how shocked and saddened I am. Most of my closest buddies who follow the NBA are distraught as well… and not one of us is a Bucks fan.
That said, I do really like the Bucks. They were shaping up as the NBA’s real feel-good story of season ‘09/’10 and had shown they were capable of beating any team on their day. Now it’s obviously going to be extremely tough.
Bad luck boys. That’s just what this is. Awful, awful luck.
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Rockets fan here
if anyone knows about losing your franchise center to an injury, it’s us. It sucks even worse when it’s near or during the playoffs. Hopefully Bogut gets well soon, he’s been a star this year and seems like a good guy, it’s really sad that this had to happen right when y’all seemed poised to shake things up in the playoffs. Good luck in the post-season.
Coming from Blazers Edge here.
The video looks terrible. Wishing him a speedy recovery. Blazer fans can relate a bit so we hope it’s a complete recovery.
Travis Outlaw fan from the beginning.
In addition to the dislocated elbow, it seems to be a broken right hand according to ESPN
This sucks. Sorry for you guys.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=5053689
Yeah, unfortunately – according to ESPN – it’s a broken hand and sprained wrist as well as the dislocated elbow.
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If Amar'e caused Bogut to move forward like that, he must be the strongest man in the world.
Amar’e barely touched him.
Clippers fan here
Just to let you guys know that being a clippers fan, we’ve seen our share of horrific injuries and the injury looks bad, but I think Bogut will recover nicely…If Shaun can come back from a ACL, MCL, and whatever else consist a blown knee, Bogut will be back next year…at least it was not his knees. BJennings will need to step up and lead them through the first round…Clipsnation is pulling for you guys…
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