Notes: Tucker joining Bucks in Vegas, Jennings hearts MKE, draft roundup
Woelfel: Tucker joins Vegas squad
Last year's edition of the Vegas Bucks was a pretty fun squad--Brandon Jennings excelling in the role of headliner, Jodie Meeks (remember him?) impressing in support, Joe Alexander flashing some never-to-be-fulfilled upside, with Amir Johnson and Luc Mbah a Moute also making the trip. This year's squad? Who knows. Jennings wasn't sure he'd be participating when asked after the Hawks series ended, Mbah a Moute sounds more interested in going to the World Cup, and the other guys are all ancient history as far as the Bucks are concerned. We do know Darnell Jackson and his non-guaranteed contract will be there, and we can now add a second (and rather familiar) name to the roster: former Badger Alando Tucker.
In his third year, Tucker split time between the Suns and Wolves this past season, but he's mostly struggled to find garbage time minutes since the Suns picked him 29th overall in 2007, mixing in some strong D-League performances with his NBA benchwarming. He left a good impession on Suns fans but never found a spot in the rotation and was mostly an after thought on a bad Minnesota squad before getting released in March. His efficiency numbers were somewhat respectable, but they don't have too much meaning given how sparingly he's played.
"The Bucks called and we discussed and broke down the situation,’’ said Kevin Bradbury, Tucker’s agent. "We had two or three other teams inquiry about Alando, too, but it came down to what he (Tucker) wanted to do."He was excited about the possibility of playing before some of the same fans who rooted for him at Wisconsin and the potential to make the roster.’’
Ford: Watching Anderson and Brackins in Vegas
Chad Ford is doing his annual hype tour of pre-draft workouts, which included a stop on Wednesday at Joe Abunassar's gym in Vegas to check out a bunch of first round prospects: Avery Bradley, James Anderson, Lance Stephenson, and Craig Brackins. We haven't really talked about Anderson much, so let's start with him:
Anderson isn't the quickest nor the most explosive athlete, but he uses his size, toughness and a knowledge of how to get to the basket and get separation to pour in the points. While he wasn't a showstopper in the drills portion on Tuesday, when they rolled out the ball for 3-on-3 play on Wednesday, he dominated. No one who guarded him could do much to stop him. He even displayed an underrated skill -- his ability to hit the open man when the defense collapses in the lane.
I think Anderson's range is pretty well set at this point. It probably starts with the Raptors at 13. The Milwaukee Bucks should have major interest at 15 and he most likely won't get past the Chicago Bulls at 17. Harris, however, is tougher to project, but should go somewhere between 25 and 40.
Ford also brings news that Brackins' vertical has been measured at a surprising 40"--rather outstanding for a 6'10" guy with range on his jumper. But isn't it a bad sign when everyone who's watched you play doesn't think you're particularly athletic? Brackins has always been an intriguing talent, so it will be interesting to see if workout season boosts him back into the first round discussion after a difficult junior season at Iowa State. The Bucks won't have to wait long to take a look for themselves--he's visiting town on Monday.
If you have Insider, be sure to also check out Ford's Monday report from LA, where he saw Paul George (also coming to Milwaukee on Monday), Jerome Jordan, Jarvis Varnado and Jordan Crawford. Here's a teaser about George:
George is closer to Chandler than McGrady at the moment, but it's clear that he's the type of player who could explode with a little coaching. He's been in the gym with former NBA big man Don MacLean for the past three weeks working on the little things that separate the good wings from the great wings. Specifically, he's working on creating his own shot -- ball handling, first step and getting separation off the dribble.
In the workout we saw, George was terrific. He showed deep range on his jump shot, exploded to the rim and had terrific quickness. Scouts have had questions about his consistency and toughness. They've also worried about his love affair with the 3-pointer. But it was also clear that he was rarely pushed at Fresno State.
BDL: Jennings says 'Milwaukee reminds me of Italy'
Trey Kerby is skeptical...though I'm also skeptical of Trey questioning Italians' love of sports. Seriously?
NBA Draft.net: Hayward mocked at #15
Why do I have the feeling we could be seeing the start of a mock draft trend? Much as it may scare a large proportion of the Bucks' fan base, It seems like everyone is hearing the front office likes Butler combo forward Gordon Hayward.
DraftExpress: Finding a Niche for Kevin Seraphin
French big man Kevin Seraphin was one of the names discussed back when we first started talking about the draft, so be sure to check out Jonathan Givony's long piece on him over at DX.
Seraphin clearly has things to work on. His activity level and intensity seem to fluctuate quite a bit from game to game (leading to some inconsistent performances), he has limitations stepping away from the basket, his ball-handling skills are crude, and his mid-range jumper is very much a work in progress – all hints that his future position is clearly center, where his bulk and length should compensate for the inch or two he lacks in prototypical size for an NBA 5-man.Defensively, Seraphin is much more useful at this point. He shows a much greater comfort level on the defensive end, where he’s a terrific presence inside the paint with his superb combination of length, strength and athleticism. He displays nice timing when rotating from the weak side and is especially effective at hedging pick-and-rolls, while still having the mobility to recover back onto his man thanks to his nimble feet and nice lateral quickness. He’s difficult to post up due to his wide frame, and he puts in a good effort on top of that. This puts him in a pretty rare class of prospects when considering his physical tools.
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Gordon Hayward talk scares me
Although I like Hayward as a player, I would prefer Johnson or George, mainly for their athleticism.
Yeah, he doesn’t scare me at 25-30…he knows how to play.
But at 15 I’m worried we’ll be passing on guys with more star power. I wish I had a better sense of whether George and some of these other guys was for real, but I’m really just going off scouting reports.
by Frank Madden on May 14, 2010 11:01 AM CDT up reply actions
In Hammonds We Trust...
This is why the guy gets to do what he does because hopefully he knows something we don’t and gets us a servicable player…
by Superelkman on May 14, 2010 12:13 PM CDT up reply actions
doug gottleibs take on hayward...
9. Gordon Hayward, Butler
Handles like a 2, rebounds and defends like a 4 on the glass. Hayward is probably a year away in terms of strength and consistency in his shooting, but his Mike Miller-meets-Mike Dunleavy style makes him impressive, as does his ability to win. If you want a winner with upside, you want Hayward.
He rates him the 9th overall prospect… interesting…
wooah..... Mike Miller meets Mike Dunleavy style that makes him impressive.......im a bit scared now
I'm not sure if that's a good or bad thing.
"There ain't nothing to do in Milwaukee"
--Josh Smith
OH RLY?
by Jacob Grinyer on May 14, 2010 9:37 PM CDT up reply actions
haha well Mike Miller has been solid enough I guess........not exactly a great number 1 but a serviceable player
but Dunleavy well if we are talking about college Dunleavy vs Pro Dunleavy………….what did he have 1 half decent year in the NBA…………..have either of them won a play off game?
Unless Orlando beats them by 40+ every game
They’d certainty make the Hawks feel better. pats Josh smith on the back
"There ain't nothing to do in Milwaukee"
--Josh Smith
OH RLY?
by Jacob Grinyer on May 14, 2010 10:26 PM CDT up reply actions
Seraphin looks like a project, but sounds like a moldable piece. He sounds like a beast on D, and is ripped. Strength can help make up for experience down low. Plus, he could get some seasoning over seas while the bucks look to add a PF through free agency for a year or two.
I hate Hayward. Please Johnny H, don’t do it.
I love James Anderson. He sounds just like the guy we could use. He can get to the rim, and shoot the three efficiently. He can learn to play team defense and work very well in the bucks system. He isn’t the most athletically gifted, But neither was Sessions when he was drafted, and he made things happen all the time.
That article that Trey wrote on BDL is awful, don’t read it. The quality of BDL has really dropped since Skeets and Tas left. This article in particular has to be one of the worst articles ever on that blog. As someone who has lived in Italy, sports are ridiculously loved, and soccer is king. Soccer is everything. We think we love the Packers or Brewers, but its nothing compared to Italian soccer fans. The Gov’t runs soccer programming, and every single game is watched on TV through PPV, and every house gets it. Trey is an idiot. He doesn’t know anything about Italy or WI, or the people that make up both great places.
Go Beer, I mean Bucks
by Take Back Our Bucks on May 14, 2010 10:12 AM CDT reply actions
“He sounds like a beast on D, and is ripped. Strength can help make up for experience down low.” Dan Gadzuric is also pretty ripped. =)
by Superelkman on May 14, 2010 12:14 PM CDT up reply actions
Have you looked at Seraphin? Tell me where you see Danny G in that guy.
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by Take Back Our Bucks on May 14, 2010 12:20 PM CDT up reply actions
They're both European...and tall.
Other than that…
by Frank Madden on May 14, 2010 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions
well put Frank.
gues you’ve got me there.
As well, I wouldn’t say Danny G is ripped. I’d put him in the “Not Flabby” category
Go Beer, I mean Bucks
by Take Back Our Bucks on May 14, 2010 2:21 PM CDT up reply actions
mostly just kidding here...
i wouldnt hate taking seraphin at 15… he is a big with upside and good defensive fundamentals… i am just really excited for this offseason to happen… hopefully two of our picks become rotation players and we can get one via FA and one via trade…
by Superelkman on May 15, 2010 11:42 AM CDT up reply actions
Two picks in the rotation would be huge—though hopefully it will be by choice, not necessity (ie Salmons/Ridnour leaving and forcing inexperienced guys into tough spots).
by Frank Madden on May 15, 2010 4:00 PM CDT up reply actions
Hammond seems shrewd enough
To not give away what he’s going to do with the pick. It wouldn’t surprise me at all if all the praise of Hayward is just a smoke screen.
I think we could do with a good dose of athleticism......
we arent exactly blessed with an explosive starting lineup, and off the bench well Ilyasova is the energy guy but as much as I love his play he isnt exactly mr fluid co-ordination as endearing as that is…..a guy who can get to the rim and finish consistently wouldnt hurt
of course their is athleticism and Hakim Warrick/Joe Alexander athleticism so hopefully they can play a bit of proper basketball as well :)
Robsinson?
I feel like Stanley Robinson is about to start climbing back up draft boards after reading articles like this: http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/blog?name=nba_draft&id=5188254
However, what do you guys think of packaging number 15 and one of our second rounders (preferably our later one) to move back in the draft and pick up two picks from a team like the Thunder or Griz? That way the team can move up to grab a guy that slips out of the lottery, and we have a chance to grab two late first rounders (including possibly Hayward or Robinson) that can come in and be a part of the rotation right away? It’s an inexpensive alternative in case we lose Salmons, and it couldn’t hurt to have a chance to take two guys we really think will fit the system that won’t make it to the second round.
Thoughts?
he is intriguing… maybe not the guy i would take but certainly should be a rotation guy… while i’d prefer a solid big guy we certainly could do worse than Stanley Robinson…
I’d rather stay at 15 and get one of the lottery guys that falls because a team or two reaches… i think our early 2nd should net us a player who makes the roster…
i guess if we could get larry sanders and luke babbit or someone else decent i wouldnt mind it... i just hope one of the real good players falls to 15
"Intriguing" is probably the best word.
It’s ironic because the first time I heard of Robinson was when Joe Alexander had the huge dunk on him in the Big East tournament a couple years back. And to be honest I think there are some similarities between the guys—both of them extremely athletic guys who are sort of tweeners in terms of size and style. Robinson probably doesn’t end up as bad as Alexander (unless everything goes wrong), but I think you still have to ask about where he fits in. Ideally he ends up on an up-tempo team where he can get out in transition and use his athleticism.
by Frank Madden on May 15, 2010 4:19 PM CDT up reply actions
Judging by that article...
Seraphin doesn’t seem like the Buck’s cup of tea. We all know how long “raw” young players Joe Alexander and Jodie Meeks lasted.
And I’ve heard more people compare Wisconsin to Germany. Never been to Germany, so I can’t judge. Nor have I been to Italy, but that article comes across as fairly ignorant, if you ask me.
In other news, according to NBAdraft.net, Lazar Hayward’s draft stock has fallen all the way to pick # 60. He’s the next Wesley Matthews! (sarcasm)
"There ain't nothing to do in Milwaukee"
--Josh Smith
OH RLY?
We could always bring Lazar to Vegas...
And let him battle Alando for the “Token Wisconsin-Affiliated Guy” on the roster spot…
by Frank Madden on May 15, 2010 4:08 PM CDT up reply actions
An epic battle!
My money’s on Alando.
"There ain't nothing to do in Milwaukee"
--Josh Smith
OH RLY?
by Jacob Grinyer on May 15, 2010 8:23 PM CDT up reply actions
I like the vibes so far.....keep everything under check......lets see what happens when teams get desperate once the big FA are off the table
I think Hammonds and the management have the right Idea with pick 15 shore up that shooting guard/small forward position………just has to be done with Salmons Stack combo uncertain status……..and then have a fly in the second round at a big guy with some potential
then through trades, free agency bottom feeding shore up the back up point guard position and the power forward/back up centre position…………as much as I dont like Gooden I can see why he makes sense for this team
Best player available strategy?
Because the Bucks don’t have just ONE need, do you think Hammonds will adopt the
“best player available” approach?
BPA
‘do you think Hammonds will adopt the "best player available" approach?’
He’s said that in interviews – pointing out that the Bucks have needs (if you include back up) at all 5 positions. So why not BPA?
I think they’re going to want that position to produce on the court next season. So I think the least likely outcome is that they chose a young man with lots of upside who needs time to develop. (Teams need to consider picks like that but not when the imperative is Win Now.)
There may be some men in the draft at #15 they judge can contribute early. If not, I’d expect a trade.
No reason not to...
The 1 and 5 are the only positions where we have a cornerstone piece, but there’s no clear backup right now at either spot and everyone’s very familiar with Bogut’s injury problems by now (hopefully Ridnour’s re-signed, but he’s still a FA). I don’t anticipate a PG being chosen at 15 simply because there aren’t any pure points who look like they’ll be in the discussion except maybe Bledsoe. But I doubt he’ll be the clear BPA at 15, so I have to think the Bucks will be going with a wing player or big man, which also fits a need.
by Frank Madden on May 15, 2010 4:05 PM CDT up reply actions
I hope you guys sign alando, he never got his chance to prove himself in this league. I wish him all the best
P.s, this man can light it up, he is a point per minute man and can also play the sf position
Phoenix, Arizona where BULLY BALL HAPPENS!!!!!!!!
Would be very cool to see him earn a roster spot
Probably depends a lot on whether we take any wing players in the draft, as well as what happens with Salmons and Stackhouse. I’d guess Jerry probably doesn’t come back but I certainly wouldn’t rule it out.
by Frank Madden on May 15, 2010 4:07 PM CDT up reply actions
I dont think it could hurt the bucks to add an extra guy on the wing......
especially someone who can offer a different look to what we have especially on offense…….Stack was as good as you could have expected……..but we reallly need an upgrade to improve and it doesnt have to be an expensive move
well market crashes are all the rage right? Down from $10 million to well the veteran minium......
what is that $400k?
thats only $9.6 million wiped off the board
I think if he was a company he’d have filed for bankruptcy a while ago :) Will be interesting to see if he makes a team next year…hopefully he saved his money.
by Frank Madden on May 15, 2010 5:20 PM CDT up reply actions
Damion James ?
Thoughts on the Bucks maybe taking him?
Interesting player
Terrific rebounder for his size, seems pretty athletic, looks to have developed his perimeter game a bit. From the little I saw of Texas it seems his big challenge is that he was a college PF who needs to become more of a SF in the pros because of his height. Some guys like Blair are freaks and are strong enough to play small at the 4, but that’s pretty rare.
I certainly wouldn’t be shocked if James ends up a tweener who just doesn’t fit either spot, but I don’t know him well enough to make a strong statement either way. If you think he has the lateral quickness and perimeter skills to play the 3 then he’s probably right in the Bucks’ range. If you think he’s a PF trapped in a SF body, then he’s probably an early second rounder. What does everybody else think?
by Frank Madden on May 18, 2010 2:41 PM CDT up reply actions
Agree with your assessment Frank
I would rather have someone who is more easlily slotted somewhere, like Paul George. George seems to be a sleeper in this draft. We desperately need another scorer (espec. if Salmons bolts).
I get scared by the “tweener” label. That’s one reason I am hesitant on Haywood. He can shoot like a 3, but is he quick enough to guard NBA 3’s? Not convinced.
I can't tell if I'm just overreacting to the Alexander experience or what
Not that JA’s problems were limited to being stuck b/w positions, but I think that was a big part of it. And I think it’s really dangerous drafting a guy when you don’t know if he’s a perimeter or inside player. If you don’t know, then you probably shouldn’t be using a high pick on him.
by Frank Madden on May 18, 2010 3:31 PM CDT up reply actions
Damion Jones........
with his age, size and skill set, he seems like a guy you wouldnt mind using a second round pick on and see whether he has the ability and determination to be a rotation guy……get him into training camp and see what the intangibles and his work ethic is like for sure……
first round especially in the teens seems like a stretch for a guy whose position isnt projected in the pro’s because physically he falls into the tweener bracket and skills set wise he has a lot to prove on the perimeter
wouldnt mind him with a second round pick if he lasts

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