Bucks Draft Possibilities - Part 1/3 - The 1st Round Big Guys
My take on potential Bucks draft picks assuming they keep the 15th pick and nothing major happens via trade or free agency between now and then... Also, I'll briefly look at what they could do with their 2nd rounders in a follow up segment... This article will highlight the potential frontcourt players the Bucks could select...
Players Definitely Gone by 15: John Wall, Evan Turner, DeMarcus Cousins, Derrick Favors, Al-Farouq Aminu, Cole Aldrich, Ed Davis, Wesley Johnson, Greg Monroe
The Bigs
Ekpe Udoh PF/C 6'10'' 240 - Good rebounder, passer, and shot-blocker for a big. Upside is a little lower than some other prospects as Udoh will be 23 at draft time. Low shooting percentage is concerning for a big and doesn't have great athleticism. Passing skill for a big is a big plus as it shows his ability to fit within the context of an offense, something Skiles demands. Would be a solid pick as he could come in and be a rotation player right away at a spot that the Bucks need. Pick Rating: 8.5/10 Antlers, At 15, getting a guy at a spot of need that can play right away at both front court spots would be a slam dunk despite a lower upside.
Patrick Pattersen PF 6'8'' 223 - Smart, coachable, strong player who showed a lot of character this season after being forced to take back seat to Wall and Cousins. Efficient scorer who projects to be a good NBA role player. Getting some flack for his rebounding dropoff this year but that can be attributed to moving to the 4 and having DeMarcus Cousins grabbing more than his fair share of the boards. Intangibles are good. Also, would be a solid pick and could contribute right away. Pick Rating: 7.5/10 Antlers, Pattersens physical, smart play would be a good addition to the Bucks frontcourt.
Donatas Motiejunas PF/C 7'0'' 215 - A very skilled European big man. Very polished offensive game and very high upside since he will only be 19 at the time of the draft. Great ball handler at this size and gets to the free throw line at a very high rate. Needs to add muscle to his frame. Poor defender and rebounder and looks awkward at times as he hasn't become completely coordinated in his own frame. High risk/high reward pick who wouldn't contribute right away and may even stay in Europe a few more years depending on his situation. Pick Rating: 7.5/10 Antlers, as much as I hate bigs who can't rebound or play defense this kid would be an incredibly high upside pick and could become Dirk on the offensive end. He is only 19 and hasn't even become coordinated in his own body so his defense and rebounding should improve, especially with some coaching. The fact he gets to the line at such a high clip is very encouraging for a 7 footer. The classic high risk/high reward pick which would hurt the Bucks chances to win now but possibly set them up to be a real contender in a few years.
Daniel Orton C 6'10'' 260 - Quite a bit of an unknown due to only playing 13 mpg in his only college season. Good size, athleticism, coordination for a big. Already has an NBA body and should be a banger. Pick Rating: 4/10 Antlers, while he would definitely fill a need in the frontcourt he will undoubtedly go through A LOT of growing pains for whatever team drafts him. If he had a particularly high upside this would be bearable but I don't want to develop a player who might become Kendrick Perkins(even though he is servicable). The ROI for this pick doesn't make sense given the other talent that will be available.
Hassan Whiteside C 7'0'' 235 - Tall, lanky, aggressive, immature, and unpolished. Another high risk/fairly high reward pick. To me, he can be a Marcus Camby type of player if he develops fully. Dominated the defensive end and the boards in the MAC. Offensively doesn't have any basketball skills as he can't shoot, pass, and doesn't play team offense. Pick Rating: 5/10 Antlers, I think Whiteside will be a bust and out of the league in 3 years but his NBA defensive and rebounding potential is too great to ignore at this spot in the draft especially if he can get his head on straight and get in the weight room. The Bucks and Skiles may be the perfect organization to do this but I won't be holding my breathe.
Larry Sanders PF 6'11'' 235 - Excellent athlete, great wingspan and rebounds very well. Improved his game in each of his three years at VCU. Intensity and effort are suspect at times but should turn into a very good defender with proper coaching. Raw but should be able to contribute as an energy guy off the bench right away and develop into a starting 4. Pick Rating: 7/10 Antlers, I would personally like this pick because of Sanders athleticism and ability to rebound. Although his effort is suspect his FT% has improved 20% since his freshman season which doesn't happen if you don't put in the time. Reminds me of a better rebounding Chris Wilcox.
Kevin Seraphin PF/C 6'9'' 258 - Physical beast, extremely raw and inexperienced. A wildcard because of limited playing experience. Looks the part of an NFL tight end. Good rebounder. Solid defender with the potential to become great. Very interesting player with great upside because of his athelticism, coordination, and limited playing experience. Pick Rating: 7/10 Antlers, I don't know how much Seraphin could help this or next year but he could pay dividends down the road. His upside is higher than most players at this spot but it is very likely he could be another Marcus Haislip. Another Risk/Reward guy. I would prefer him to Whiteside or Orton if we are going to pick a developmental player.
Solomon Alabi C 7'1'' 251 - Tall, excellent defender, solid offensive game. Good character guy. Wouldn't mind selecting him later in the draft. Already 22 so his upside is somewhat limited. Pick Rating: 4.5/10, would be an ok later in the draft but I think Alabi will be a fourth big man in the NBA for many years. Solid offensive game, great size, ok strength, and not much lateral quickness. Appears to be your run of the mill back up big man.
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cool breakdown.....
admittedly the potential combo of Bogut and a athletic 4 is alluring………is there any chance any of these guys drop to the second round maybe not some of the better known guys like Patterson, Whiteside, Udoh & Motiejunad but guys like Sanders, Seraphin & Orton?
well seraphin could possibly drop due to how unknown he is but with the recent success of other unknown frenchmen(Batum, Roddy Beaubois) I would say he won't fall out of the end of the first round...
it looks like orton will go in the late lottery…. there are actually a lot of guys i like in the 2nd including Craig Brackens, Jerome Jordan, Jarvis Varnado, Gani Lawal(who i actually like last year and then he came back and Derrick Favors completely overshadowed him)
the bucks have also shown some interest in trevor booker and this would probably be the spot they would pick him at...
booker would be pretty nice to get as well...
he is uber aggressive and compares to dejuan blair and jason maxiell… he is a good rebounder with attitude… which is exactly the type of player that makes a splash in the league being drafted in the 2nd round
i could see Sanders slipping if he does poorly at the combine...
as much as the NBA combine doesn’t matter(see guys who performed poorly in Kevin Durant and guys who performed excellently in Joe Alexander) I could see Sanders slipping some if he does poorly here because one of his claims to fame is his athelticism… still I don’t see him slipping out of the first…
I am a big Sanders fan but I voted for Udoh here because I think he is more of a sure fire selection even though I would be happy with either of the two...
especially since Udoh will probably be gone at our pick…
Awesome work!
Great breakdown of what’s out there. I voted Patterson but from what I’ve seen I also like Udoh, Sanders and Seraphin…and I haven’t seen them enough to make a really educated pick between them. I especially like Patterson’s maturity, strength and ability to hit open jumpers—he just looks like a guy who could immediately step in and be a nice addition to our rotation.
Sanders and Seraphin are both extremely intriguing because of their physical tools. They would really bring a different dimension to the 4/5 position, though Seraphin might project to be more of a center given he’s already in the 260-270 range.
I’d be excited to get Whiteside if Skiles/Hammond thought he was coachable and smart enough to adapt to the NBA game. But something tells me he’s not really their type…
okay interesting stuff........
personally I can see why Patterson would seem a smart fit. though considering that Mbah a Moute is considered undersized at the 4, I wouldnt mind someone with that extra athleticism and height to be able to spell Bogut for some limited minutes……..I guess the Bucks are hoping for someone to have an impact like Serge Ibaka for the Thunder maybe
and hopefully mean we never have to use Dan Gadz again….sorry Dan
I guess
I’d go with Seraphin, if not for the fact that the Bucks would probably get frustrated with him and he’d be a Joe Alexander Part 2. Then, I’d take Patterson, he seems like just the guy we’re looking for.
I wouldn’t want to take Motiejunas unless something happens to Ersan, just because I see them being fairly similar, and because if we’re looking for a PF, he’d be more of the high-flying, running and jumping variety, correct?
"There ain't nothing to do in Milwaukee"
--Josh Smith
OH RLY?
So, what's part two/three gonna be?
Shooting guards? Swingmen?
"There ain't nothing to do in Milwaukee"
--Josh Smith
OH RLY?
part two will be wing players available at that spot...
part three will be second round guys…
by Superelkman on May 16, 2010 10:47 PM CDT up reply actions
this is in progress... should be complete by sometime late tonight/tomorrow morning
by Superelkman on May 17, 2010 12:30 PM CDT up reply actions
Cool.
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--David Stern
by Jacob Grinyer on May 19, 2010 3:30 PM CDT up reply actions
this could work
This would be an interesting Idea but not sure it would happen. Lets say Minnesota really wants Evan Turner at 2. A lot would have to be done but I think a 3 way deal could go down or maybe it goes down in two 2 team deals whatever.
the 3 team deal
Bucks get: Kevin Love Sixers get: picks 4 and 15 Wolves get: pick 2 ( other picks possible)
I guess it all depends on how crazy the wolves are about Evan Turner and if the sixers would even go for that but I think I would and plus the sixers need a big guy which could be cousins or favors at the 4 spot. I would love this deal because it gives us an already proven PF to play next to Bogut. The wolves could probly do this deal without trading with the bucks as well if the sixers would take picks 4 and 23.
FEAR THE DEER!!! but not til next year =(
by russelTHEmuscle on May 18, 2010 10:47 PM CDT reply actions
would the wolves give up kevin love to move up 2 spots?
there would have to be many other pieces involved i am guessing to make this work…
If I were the Bucks (and I have nothing at stake here as a Kings fan so keep it in mind pls LOL)
I’d think about taking Kevin Seraphin at 15. I don’t like Alabi as he’s too raw and unpolished. I don’t like Whiteside cuz he’s too raw, unpolished, and has shown no real skill. I would be shocked if Udoh drops past the top 8 of the draft, and I’m not the biggest fan of Orton either. I just don’t think guys who haven’t produced at the college level are likely to produce at the NBA level either. Taking Orton would be a major risk. I don’t think Patterson will last until 15, but it’s always possible he does. I’d put nothing past
It comes down to Seraphin, Larry Sanders because he can produce now(who may shoot up boards for this reason), and Donatas Motiejunas. A lot of people I know aren’t fans of Motiejunas, but I think in the Bucks system (especially with the talent the Bucks have) Motiejunas could really grow and produce without being asked to utilize his weaker parts of his game for the Bucks. Being able to score in the variety of ways Motiejunas does would be enough of a starting point I think.
If for nothing else, what the Bucks have is the opportunity to get a talented player who can help them. Given that mistakes are made all the time and good players are picked in the 20’s, worrying about where a player goes according to pundits seems like a pointless endeavor IMO.
Be interesting to see what teams like the Pacers, Hornets, Grizz, Raptors and Rockets decide. There’s a strong possibility that Motiejunas (and Udoh almost certainly will be gone unless he works out very badly) that already will be gone. Seraphin might go to Toronto or Houston who probably have the patience to see a Kevin Seraphin pan out over the long term even if means waiting a year.
There’s a number of intriguing prospects out there, and it shall remain interesting to see who goes where. Excellent writeup elkman.
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Larry Sanders at 15
Sanders Looks to be a very High cieling/upside guy who could probably contribute defensively right away. He has outstanding athleticism and is a very solid block/rebound guy. Plus his posterizing of Tiny Gallon is sick! If he is there at 15 I don’t see why the bucks wouldn’t take him.
FEAR THE DEER!!! but not til next year =(
by russelTHEmuscle on May 19, 2010 11:42 AM CDT reply actions
I know alot of stuff has to play out............
buuuuuuut I still feel the Bucks will seriously look at guys like Henry, Anderson, Hayward or George at this pick just because of Salmons situation and having Stack as the primary wing player off the bench last season was kinda stop gap
having said that a big guy with some upside is very appealing……….we could use depth at all positions so there are needs to fill everywhere!!
Agreed...the nice part is you can still use Salmons regardless
Though if we’re picking a 2/3 I would think we’re less likely to give Salmons a three or four year deal….not that I’m complaining.
by Frank Madden on May 19, 2010 11:42 PM CDT up reply actions
conflicted....
Hambone will go with the BPA at the end of the day, rather than need. My prefernce is in order of: Patterson, Udoh, Sanders in that order, but i don’t think both Patterson and Udoh will be around for us to pick. If they were i’d be swell. Aside from that it’ll be interesting to see the outcome swelling around Minny and the Sixers, that and the relative ambiguity of picks outside the top six. Will also be nice once we see some draft workout footage.(From what I hear Skiles and Co run a ‘intense’ workout.)
BPA...
that’s of the bigs…..
then there’s Hayward, Gorge and Henry to consider who come into the mix after Patterson and Udoh…
Paul George........ a case for
Jonathan Wasserman from NBADraft.net had a few interesting synopsis of George:
Paul George will most likely be picked in the mid first round, due to his ability to stretch the defense with his deep range and quick release… He could be affective along side a strong point guard in the drive and dish game, as well as in transition, and can fit in nicely with teams who have big men that frequently see double teams… Strong athletes who can shoot, finish and have the potential to defend are hard to come by, and could be used by many NBA teams who lack depth at the 3 position…
hmm a point guard who can drive and dish…..and a big guy who can draw double teams…..
yeah
that sounds like the bucks. I am actually starting to like our draft position more and more everytime i look at it. This draft has a lot of depth and we should be able to get a contributor.
FEAR THE DEER!!! but not til next year =(
by russelTHEmuscle on May 20, 2010 1:37 PM CDT up reply actions
Draft Paul George
I like Paul George in the first. An efficient 6’9" shooting guard would be great to have. He might be able to play 3 if they extend Salmons contract too.
I also like the pick because the power forwards I see in the first round don’t distinguish themselves from the power forwards of the second round. I like Charles Garcia and Tiny Gallon more than I like Sanders or Patterson maybe its just because I have more expectations out of the 15th pick tho. Jerome Jordan would be a nice grab in the 2nd round too. Zoubek undrafted maybe.
makes sense with Salmons situation.......just seems a nice fit for our current roster and needs
though if Xavier Henry falls it will be interesting hasnt had much buzz lately and the mock drafts have had him going anywhere from the top 10 to the late teens…………….If he drop to the Bucks it will be interesting…………
whilst people say he doesnt have a great upside in the NBA but will be a solid enough pro….its always nice to remember he still was a freshman this season so lots of room to get better…..draftnet.com projects him as Jimmy Jackson so combined with his supposedly great attitude that’s worth a shot if he lasts I suppose
Ekpe Udoh
saw a mock draft today with us taking Ekpe Udoh. Would be nice but if he falls I don’t think he falls past 14 with the rockets
FEAR THE DEER!!! but not til next year =(
by russelTHEmuscle on May 20, 2010 4:46 PM CDT reply actions
Almost done with the wings guys... sorry it is taking longer than expected.... something came up in my life i had to deal with...
in the mean time if you have espn insider read this http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/draft2010/insider/columns/story?columnist=hollinger_john&page=PERDiem-100521
Hollingers draft ratings… Very interesting… I’ll comment on these in another post…
Udoh - love him, but I don't think it works with the bucks
This guy has some talent, and is most likely gonna be gone by the 15th pick anyways, but his similarities with the Prince lend me to think that this wouldn’t be the bucks pick. You would have to be certain that Udoh and Luc aren’t on the court at the same time, because of their offensive ineptitude, and I’m not sure Udoh is big enough to really spell Bogut for any significant length of time. Essentially, you are getting a taller, more shot block happy Luc, without the all around defensive game. I just don’t know how that would work. At the same time, I’m all about picking the BPA, and if Udoh’s it, we can make it work.
Not sure what to make of his offense
If you read his scouting report it sounds like he has a very well-developed high post game, mid-range jumper, and passing game for a college big man. And yet he also shot only 49% from the field on fairly low usage despite his size and skill.
Even so, a taller Luc who can block shots is already a pretty different player. Luc can get away with playing PF, but he’s too small to be a long-term starter IMO. I think Luc’s long-term role is probably as a defensive stopper off the bench, in which case I wouldn’t worry as much about picking a guy who complements him.
by Frank Madden on May 29, 2010 11:21 AM CDT up reply actions

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