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White Out: Babbitt and Hayward square off

Bucks.com: Hayward debuts, Babbitt returns for second visit
Are we there yet? Not quite, but with the draft just eight days away we're in the home stretch. On Wednesday, Butler swingman Gordon Hayward made his long-awaited first appearance in Milwaukee, but he only shared the day's headlining honors with Luke Babbitt, who made a second trip to Milwaukee less than two weeks after his first workout here. It's very possible neither guy is still available when the Bucks pick 15th, but at least the Bucks will have done their homework in case they are. Oklahoma St. guard James Anderson had also been expected to take part, but he's been struggling with a pulled hamstring and was held out of the workout itself after receiving treatment in Milwaukee yesterday. Gery Woelfel writes that Anderson still hopes to work out at a later date for the Bucks.

And while Hayward and Babbitt were the big names, don't overlook the remainder of today's group: Xavier SG Jordan Crawford (also back for a second time), Mississippi's jumping jack combo guard Terrico White, and New Mexico combo forward Darington Hobson. DX has each of them slotted in the early second. Hit up Bucks.com for tons of quotes from the players and Billy McKinney (see below).

On if what he saw today alters his philosophy on draft night…
"Not really. We’ll still look at taking the best player available for us and we’re still trying to figure out who that’s going to be. There’s about seven players as I’ve talked to teams around the league that are kind of the top seven players and after that it seems like it’s kind of a free-for-all in terms of who will go. Gordon Hayward is a guy that’s been talked in the top 10, Luke Babbitt’s been talked about as a player in the top 10, Hassan Whiteside, who we’ll  have in later, also has been a player that could move up into the top 10. So we’re trying to do as much work as we can to see as many players as possible that could fall into our draft range. It will be best player available."

Star-divide

Babbitt was apparently not thrilled with his workout on June 3, but it's interesting that he wanted to redeem himself for the Bucks when most mock drafts have him going in the lottery. While Babbitt's ability to guard either forward position is an open question, his incredible scoring pedigree is impossible to deny and he's probably a better athlete than he's been given credit for (don't tell me Chris Mullin ever threw down alley-oops with ease). Having him go head-to-head with the smaller Hayward will hopefully have provided the Bucks a better feel for his perimeter defense. I'm less worried about Hayward's positional fit, and I also think he's got the savvy and skill level to be at least a decent pro and possibly a very good one. He's not a sexy pick but I think you could do worse.

It's also worth noting that Hayward and Paul George are among the lottery hopefuls who have refused to work out with Memphis, which holds the 12th overall pick. Memphis has probably been the most disrespected team in recent years around draft time, so in some ways this is just more of the same. But George and Hayward are probably also nervous about potentially competing for time with Rudy Gay--provided he re-signs. The irony is that GM Chris Wallace could be looking at guys like George and Hayward as insurance for when Gay demands some ridiculous amount of money this summer--remember he apparently turned down a $10 million per season extension a year ago. Also be sure to check out Jeremy's interview with UWM coach Rob Jeter at Bucksketball. Aside from seeing Hayward up close in the Horizon League, Jeter also coached a number of this year's prospects at the U19 World Championships last summer.

JS: Patterson cancels workout with Bucks
Charles Gardner reports that the Bucks are still hoping to get Patrick Patterson in for a workout, despite his decision to cancel a planned visit yesterday (McKinney also alludes to it in the video above).

"It's an indication he might be going before us in the draft," McKinney said of Patterson's decision to cancel his appointment with the Bucks, who have the No. 15 pick. "We've watched his body of work for the last several years, and we had a chance to interview him while we were in Chicago (for the draft combine in May).

"He's a very impressive young man and we like what he brings to the table. We're comfortable with him but we would like to get him in for a workout. We will continue to try to do so."

Woelfel reports that Patterson's snub was the combination of both expecting to go in the lottery and also being tired from four straight days of workouts. The good news is that he didn't mean it as a symbol of disinterest in the Bucks, who on paper would seem to be a very good fit for him.

Bucks Beat: No clear winner in Babbitt / Hayward showdown
Paul Imig valiantly tried to pry some answers out of McKinney, Hayward and Babbitt, but of course it was mostly PC responses all around.

“I couldn’t say today that there was one guy that stood out over the other,” McKinney said. “They’re very comparable players. Both are tough as nails. That’s one of the reasons we want to get them both in together, having Luke (Babbitt) back in when Gordon (Hayward) is here, you kind of see apples against apples.”

JS: Bucks get a handle on backcourt prospects
While Patterson's absence was the biggest headline on Tuesday, the Bucks did manage to work out a pair of intriguing combo guards in Alabama's Mikhail Torrance and Oklahoma's Willie Warren. A former teammate of Brandon Jennings' at Oak Hill, Warren was a possible lottery selection a year ago but didn't make much progress as a sophomore--OU as a team was more or less a trainwreck--and has seen his stock plummet to the late first/early second range. Alabama's Torrance is projected around the same range, so they were perfect workout opponents for the Bucks to bring in. Afterwards McKinney commented on Torrance's emergence:

"I drove down (to Ohio) for the game and was very impressed with him," McKinney said. "He did an outstanding job here today. His size is very good; his court vision is excellent. He's a very good defensive player and he has the ability to score around the basket with either hand, which makes him very difficult to stop."

Woelfel: Bucks hone in on top prospects
This is a couple days old (like when Patterson was still expected to be in town), but as usual Gery throws out some interesting rumors and tidbits. Here's one on VCU big Larry Sanders:

Some veteran NBA scouts contend Sanders will be picked between 15 and 25. But he believes his talents are better than those draft projections.

He recently held his own against Cole Aldrich of Kansas in a pre-draft workout with the Toronto Raptors and said he‘s matched up well against more highly-regarded big men in the draft.

BUCKS.com: Summer League starts July 12
Looking beyond the draft, the first look at the Bucks' rookies (whoever that ends up being) will happen in Vegas starting July 12. Details:

Mon., July 12 Dallas 7 p.m. COX Pavilion
Tue., July 13 Memphis 7 p.m. COX Pavilion
Thu., July 15 Atlanta 7:30 p.m. Thomas & Mack Center
Fri., July 16 Miami 9:30 p.m. Thomas & Mack Center
Sun., July 18 Cleveland 3 p.m. COX Pavilion

Ford: Xavier Henry to Bucks
Chad Ford's latest mock once again has the Bucks taking Kansas swingman Xavier Henry, passing on Paul George (who he previously had 12th), James Anderson, and Damion James. The big mover is Patrick Patterson, who jumps from 22nd to 12th. Perhaps most interestingly...

Speaking of upside, we probably should add one more name to the list. It's a long shot but Cincinnati's Lance Stephenson has impressed in workouts and the Bucks have had their eye on him for a while. It seems like that's a bit of a reach at 15, but John Hammond rolled the dice on a former high school phenom with a bad rep last year and it paid off. Will he do it again this year?

The Bucks have yet to work out Stephenson, who until now has mostly been known as a one-time child prodigy who never lived up to the hype. Still, his size (227 lbs, 6'10.5" wingspan), age (he turns 20 in September), and natural talent are expected to get him drafted somewhere in the late first or early second round. He scares the hell out of me at #15, and while I said the same thing a year ago about Brandon Jennings, there are some major limitations to the Jennings' parallel. For one, Stephenson's mediocrity at Cincy is harder to explain away than Jennings' issues in Rome, and good shooting guards just aren't as valuable as good PGs.

DraftExpress: Small Forward Situation Stats
Matt Kamalsky uses Synergy Sports' database to break down the top small forward's scoring efficiency--very interesting read. As a sample, here's some good stuff about one of the guys I've generally been less enthusiastic about.

James Anderson was nothing short of spectacular last season, and it shows here. His 1.07 overall PPP ranks second amongst all players, as do his 20 possessions used per-game. He was above the PPP every in every situation except for guarded catch and shoot situations, and has more experience running the pick and roll (2.9 Pos/G) than any other player on our rankings. High usage/high-efficiency players are extremely difficult to come by, and NBA teams may want to ponder if they’re missing the boat on Anderson due to the fact that he has not been spectacular in workouts. The same thing happened last year with Marcus Thornton.

DX has analyses for every position but the small forward and power forward articles are probably the most interesting from a Bucks' standpoint. Among the PFs, here's what they had to say about Larry Sanders:

Larry Sanders stacks up pretty well with Ed Davis at 1.03 PPP on 13 possessions per-game. He's come a long way from his freshman year, and it shows in his situational statistics. His 55.3% shooting from the post (4th) is incredible considering how raw he was with his back to the basket when he got to VCU. He still has a ways to go, as his 0.421 PPP in jump shooting situations indicates his lack polish from the midrange, but couple his length and athleticism with his 1.421 PPP in finishing situations (3rd) and Sanders seems like a nice long-term option for a team with the time develop him.

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Huh.
Some veteran NBA scouts contend Sanders will be picked between 15 and 25. But he believes his talents are better than those draft projections.

He recently held his own against Cole Aldrich of Kansas in a pre-draft workout with the Toronto Raptors and said he‘s matched up well against more highly-regarded big men in the draft.

I didn’t know Sanders was a scou! ;)

"We follow people who know a lot more about basketball than I do or pretend to..."
--David Stern

by Jacob Grinyer on Jun 16, 2010 8:10 PM CDT reply actions  

Draft a SG

I’m sold on the Bucks getting a SG in the first round. Not a SF, not a PF, but a SG. I’d even advocate for acquiring a 2nd 1st round pick and drafting a second potential SG with one that could play a combo role. Like Gordon Hayward and Lance Stephenson or Xavier Henry and Jordan Crawford or Paul George and Willie Warren.

by FearTheDeer on Jun 16, 2010 8:35 PM CDT reply actions  

Hoops Hype

Says his D is questionable. Knowing what JP said that Hammonds and Skiles are looking for do you think there’s a legit chance they’d pick him, or is Hoops Hype alone in their assesment. BTW his comparison player was Adam Morrison Ouch!

by CanadaBucks on Jun 16, 2010 9:17 PM CDT reply actions  

I have to think they'd consider him

I don’t think they’d bring him in twice otherwise…he might not be their favorite guy because of the tweener/defense questions but he’s a talent and pickings tend to get slim in the middle of the first round.

by Frank Madden on Jun 16, 2010 11:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Babbit Morrison comparisons....

I can see it and the same way Morrison couldnt get his shot in the NBA the same problem Babbit will have unless he is a good jump shooter from open looks, man to man defence cant see it happening

by ILIKEBJ'S on Jun 17, 2010 5:27 AM CDT up reply actions  

Isn’t Babbitt a better athlete and taller than Morrison? He also seems to have a better all-around game than AM.

by victor s on Jun 17, 2010 10:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

Official measurements

Morrison: 6’6.5" w/o shoes, 198 lbs, 6’10" wingspan, 25.5" no step vert, 30.5" max vert, 11 reps
Babbitt: 6’7.5" w/o shoes, 218 lbs, 6’11.25" wingspan, 29.5" no step, 37.5" max, 15 reps

by Frank Madden on Jun 17, 2010 12:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thanx, Frank.

Babbitt is also deadly with the mid-range jumper, which is becoming a lost art in the NBA

by victor s on Jun 17, 2010 1:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wite out: Now with 50 percent more Hayward

"We follow people who know a lot more about basketball than I do or pretend to..."
--David Stern

by Jacob Grinyer on Jun 16, 2010 9:42 PM CDT reply actions  

ZANG

Wouldn’t it be nice to roll out a Ridnour/Hayward/Delfino/Ilyasova/Bogut lineup next year? I guess Delfino is only white by NBA standards, but still…I’ve always envied the Pacers.

by Frank Madden on Jun 16, 2010 11:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Bring back Keith Van Horn!

I've had it with this verkakte flippity-ship!

by TheJay on Jun 17, 2010 10:31 AM CDT up reply actions  

Good thing I have him on speed dial.

"We follow people who know a lot more about basketball than I do or pretend to..."
--David Stern

by Jacob Grinyer on Jun 17, 2010 12:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm sure

Adam Morrison would be available if you want a true white SF.

by CanadaBucks on Jun 17, 2010 10:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think that's a perennial 30 game winner, dontcha think....

"We follow people who know a lot more about basketball than I do or pretend to..."
--David Stern

by Jacob Grinyer on Jun 17, 2010 12:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

LOL!

Squad Six is to the Bucks what beer is to Milwaukee (or anywhere else for that matter)... the catalyst for you doing dumb things in public and not feeling self-conscious!

by Big Crazy Dave on Jun 17, 2010 4:00 AM CDT up reply actions  

I’m liking James Anderson more and more. He makes a LOT of sense for the Bucks.

by victor s on Jun 17, 2010 12:12 AM CDT reply actions  

Babbit twice???

what they want to double check what he cant do twice? :)

Im thinking the Bucks view him as a shorter version of Troy Murphy?? A guy who shoots well for his size and can stretch the defence, Murphy is legit PF size though and he grabs boards aplenty…..and I dont think he has ever played a play off game has he?

by ILIKEBJ'S on Jun 17, 2010 5:20 AM CDT reply actions  

They wanted to have him go with someone else that was closer to his skill level...

When he came in the first time, he was with a bunch of Garbage men who will be tossing bricks next year in Serbia & Montenegro.

Hayward actually has a high skill level, (not that I like him or his skills) but he has more skils than the others that came in with Babbit the first time around. The wanted to push Babbit and see how he could hold up.

Also… Head games. Johnny “B. Ware” Hammonds and Scott “The Cerebral Assasin” Skiles (yes, WWE references) knows what they are doing. They are going to get those guys over drafted and have someone like Patterson, Udoh, or George fall into their laps.

Go Beer, I mean Bucks

by Take Back Our Bucks on Jun 17, 2010 9:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

Joe Alexander visited twice, too

Though I think the second time was just for interviews…just saying :)

by Frank Madden on Jun 17, 2010 12:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

Imagine

Being voted to the Montenegran All-Rookie Team

by CanadaBucks on Jun 17, 2010 1:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

I wouldn't mind Babbit if it is between him and Hayward... Babbits wingspan is 6'11... Haywards 6'8'' so Babbit can legitimately be a stretch 4...

plus Babbitt can shoot the lights out… that said i don’t really want either of them as my first choice… James Anderson baby!!!!

by Superelkman on Jun 17, 2010 3:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed.

Followed by Udoh and George for me.

Go Beer, I mean Bucks

by Take Back Our Bucks on Jun 17, 2010 3:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

To make things clear

I am not a white-o-phobe. I recognize the fact that there are athletically gifted whites that can translate their gifts onto play on the court as well, Rex Chapman and Tom Chambers come to mind. In watching the Luke Babbit vid, I see a good player and a good athlete who should be able to translate that to pro success, he reminds me of rick Barry in a sense, a lights-out shooter who can do so much more. That being said I do not think the Bucks should draft Babbit as I don’t think he fills a major need on this team at the moment. If this was a 50-55 win team with a solid starting 5 I would love to see a Babbit type on the team, a kind of high energy great shooter to come off the bench as a momentum changer. If Babbit’s name was Tom Chambers I’d be all over it though.

by CanadaBucks on Jun 17, 2010 8:54 AM CDT reply actions  

I concur with CanadaBucks

Despite my rep on here of being anti-white player (btw, I am white myself). We need a guy at the right position who fills a need: a “shooting” guard and/or an athletic “rebounding” power forward. Don’t get me wrong, I think Hayward and Babbit are decent players. But they are big perimeter players, for the most part, and share the same profile as some of the current Bucks. As examples, I would take Larry Sanders, Paul George and James Anderson and over both of those guys (assuming Patterson and Udoh are gone).

by tommyr on Jun 17, 2010 9:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yes but

I would have had to look it up to spell it. :)

by CanadaBucks on Jun 17, 2010 10:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

i did!

I didn’t want to admit it, but i will if necessary

Go Beer, I mean Bucks

by Take Back Our Bucks on Jun 17, 2010 11:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

What about 'Hollywood' Don MacLean?

Squad Six is to the Bucks what beer is to Milwaukee (or anywhere else for that matter)... the catalyst for you doing dumb things in public and not feeling self-conscious!

by Big Crazy Dave on Jun 18, 2010 1:11 AM CDT up reply actions  

my take is if that was Babbits highlight reel somebody help us he will get schooled in the pros

about two steps two slow and

wtf your going to get 3pt looks with a defender hanging five meters back in the pro’s who do you think you are Rondo?

by ILIKEBJ'S on Jun 17, 2010 2:53 PM CDT reply actions  

76ers-Kings trade

Philly trades Dalembert to Sacremento for Nocioini and Hawes. That’s pretty much assurance that they won’t be drafting Evan Turner and trading away the #2 pick. It still will probably be between NJ and MN tho, but you never know

*Also for victor s, that’d probably make Courtney Lee much more available?

by FearTheDeer on Jun 17, 2010 2:55 PM CDT reply actions  

But if they don’t trade for Lee – J anderson will be the pick, provided X & George are gone.

even if they resign Salmons, they can bring Anderson along slowly, and allow Salmons to slide to the 3 at times. I like that idea, a lot!!

by victor s on Jun 17, 2010 2:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don’t really see how this deal impacts their draft options. Hawes hasn’t proven much and Dalembert was expiring anyway…Philly neither acquired nor gave up a long-term piece.

by Frank Madden on Jun 17, 2010 3:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yup

I don’t think that has anything to do with how they’ll draft. They’ve basically already made him part of their team.

They could still select Favors, but I don’t think it will be because of this deal.

"We follow people who know a lot more about basketball than I do or pretend to..."
--David Stern

by Jacob Grinyer on Jun 17, 2010 4:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't see

The point of that trade unless I’m missing something obvious.

by CanadaBucks on Jun 17, 2010 3:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

Salary dump, im guessing. I think Dalembert is due BIG money this year.

by victor s on Jun 17, 2010 3:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

But

He’s expiring and Nocioni has another year left. Unless is a move to get below the tax i don’t see the benefit for the sixers.

by CanadaBucks on Jun 17, 2010 3:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think Sammy makes somewhere close to $3 million more next year than Noc/Hawes combined…definitely helps their luxury tax situation.

by Frank Madden on Jun 17, 2010 3:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

And maybe it’s the first of a series of movies, possibly including Brand.

by CanadaBucks on Jun 17, 2010 3:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

On checking Salaries

Philly saves about 2.5m this year and has Nocioni on the books in 2011/2012 and about 6.5m. It leaves Philly with about 62.5m in payroll on 12 players. Sacramento has 8 players at about 38m under contract for this year. As I mentioned before I can really see benefit for Sacramento, not so much for the Sixers.

by CanadaBucks on Jun 17, 2010 4:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

woaah smack me silly but did Stefanski just make a smart move........wait for it

yup I think he did………..blow me away………cant believe he had it in him

get rid of Dalembert who had run his race, guy seems ok but in Philly he was malcontent on that team, get a decent young C in Hawes, Nocioni is expiring next year, his contract and also his game I bet……….plenty more to come dont think they will get sucker a team in to Brand unless they give up the 2nd pick which is silly

but Nocioni and Iggy and Thad Young doesnt go into two so………

by ILIKEBJ'S on Jun 17, 2010 8:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sorry

I dont see the intelligence in it.

by CanadaBucks on Jun 17, 2010 8:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

NBA, Hard cap plz?

Kthxbi

"We follow people who know a lot more about basketball than I do or pretend to..."
--David Stern

by Jacob Grinyer on Jun 17, 2010 4:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

nah... the nba soft cap is just fine for the nba...

it allows for a team to be put in a better position to resign their own players and the luxury tax is a good deterrent for almost all teams….

by Superelkman on Jun 17, 2010 5:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

I would have to disagree

Teams get into all this crap about trying to get under the luxury tax…. I think it’s worse than having no cap at all. But I see where your coming from though.

"We follow people who know a lot more about basketball than I do or pretend to..."
--David Stern

by Jacob Grinyer on Jun 17, 2010 6:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

This is crazy

One of three things will happen because of this trade…they’ll trade Iggy, trade Brand, or trade Turner. If dumping salary was the goal, they’ll dump more. If acquiring a combo guard was the point they’ll draft Favors.

by FearTheDeer on Jun 17, 2010 4:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

From what I understand, L Stephenson has all the talent in the world, but is a head-case/thug.

Anyone think the Bucks should/will take a chance on him if he’s available at pick # 37???

by victor s on Jun 17, 2010 3:15 PM CDT reply actions  

Agreed....

I’d take him at 37 and stick him in the D league for a year to see how he fares….

by victor s on Jun 17, 2010 3:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

But

Aren’t you for drafting a SG at 15?

by CanadaBucks on Jun 17, 2010 3:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yep – but that doesn’t mean I wouldn’t roll the dice on another one in the 2nd round – especially if this knuckle head has the talent they say he does.

by victor s on Jun 17, 2010 4:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Guys that were heavily recruited coming out of HS

But didn’t preform well in college are always worth the risk in the 2nd round, IMO

"We follow people who know a lot more about basketball than I do or pretend to..."
--David Stern

by Jacob Grinyer on Jun 17, 2010 11:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

He might be...

one of those cases where he needs a “tough love” type coach – and Skiles might be able to tap his vast potential and teach him how to be a great pro.

Or Skiles might choke him…..

by victor s on Jun 18, 2010 12:05 AM CDT up reply actions  

2nd that motion

I think he’ll be gone in the first round tho. I’d love to see them trade up for him tho especially if they pick a PF with the 15th pick.

by FearTheDeer on Jun 17, 2010 4:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

I know big expiring deals are more valuable at the trade deadline – but what could the Bucks hope to get in return if they traded Redd and/or Gadz before traing camp? Would it make more sense to hold onto them until the deadline?

And who might want their expiring contracts?

by victor s on Jun 17, 2010 5:01 PM CDT reply actions  

2nd rounders

This is my first post to this site.

Much of this discussion is about who the Bucks should take with the 15th pick understandably.. Little discussion about deals involving the 2nd round picks.. Does trading 15 and the top 2nd rounder get you a signficantly better player then you’d get at 15? What can they get if the package the 2 second rounders? Should they just stay the course- get a 2nd rounder that can help immediately and take more of a gamble or a developmental guy with the 2nd 2nd rounder?

Any thought on this topic are appreciated.

Thanks

by mancl on Jun 17, 2010 6:58 PM CDT reply actions  

2nd Round Picks

I don’t think they are that hot of a commodity tbh, not like the NFL anyway. With the smallest line-up of the big four, basketball likely has the smallest turnover through the draft. The advantage teams might have from trading out of the first round is that they could save some money on contracts. Not saying you can’t get a good player in the 2nd round but it’s not that common. I doubt packaging 15 and 37 would move you up much unless a team at 12-14 had a number of players on the board and would take the 37th as an extra incentive to trade down.

by CanadaBucks on Jun 17, 2010 8:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

I like the idea of staying put at 15, then packaging the two 2nd rounders to move up into the mid-late first round, if there’s a player there that they REALLY like.

This particular draft is odd in that after the first 5-7 picks, no one really knows who’s going where. There’s some serious parity this year – not to mention trades, teams w/ multiple picks, etc…

And if I’m the GM, I draft the best SG available [henry, george, anderson] at 15, then move back into the first round to grab L Sanders ….. : )

by victor s on Jun 17, 2010 8:33 PM CDT reply actions  

If he lasts past 19 or 20 I think the Bucks pull the trigger

by victor s on Jun 17, 2010 8:39 PM CDT reply actions  

Hypothetically…. say the Bucks draft Anderson & Sanders – and they both turn out to be good – then next year they can sign a FA SF [prince, butler?] – and if they re-sign ridnour and/or salmons, I’d say they become a real contender in the East for years to come.

by victor s on Jun 17, 2010 8:42 PM CDT reply actions  

Gooden???

Anyone hear anything more on the Drew Gooden front?

by victor s on Jun 17, 2010 8:44 PM CDT reply actions  

I can’t help it!! : )

I moved to Milw in 1993, and have been a die-hard fan since – but except for the 2-3 good G Karl seasons, this has been a sputtering franchise, at best.

They FINALLY have stability with a real coach AND a real GM, and some good, young talent – which means they have a promising future.

I’m not expecting them to go to the NBA Finals anytime soon – but I’m overjoyed that they are finally relevant.

by victor s on Jun 17, 2010 9:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Excuse my ignorance

But who’s Paul Mokeski?

"We follow people who know a lot more about basketball than I do or pretend to..."
--David Stern

by Jacob Grinyer on Jun 17, 2010 10:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

Dude!

Only THE sexiest man alive! (apparently – no, really, I concur, who the hell is he?)

Squad Six is to the Bucks what beer is to Milwaukee (or anywhere else for that matter)... the catalyst for you doing dumb things in public and not feeling self-conscious!

by Big Crazy Dave on Jun 18, 2010 1:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

AAAAHHH...THIS is Paul Mokeski!

Paul Mokeski
From Wikipedia –
Paul Keen Mokeski (born January 3, 1957 in Spokane, Washington) is a retired American basketball player in the NBA. At 7-foot, his position was center. He was college basketball player out of Crespi Carmelite High School and University of Kansas, most noted for his tenure with the Milwaukee Bucks. After his playing career ended, he coached in the CBA and ABA.

Mokeski was an assistant coach with the Fort Worth Flyers of the NBA D-League.1 In June 2007, he was hired by the NBA’s Charlotte Bobcats as an assistant coach under Sam Vincent.1 He was let go at the end of the 2007-08 season, when Vincent was fired.

He is currently an assistant coach with the Rio Grande Valley Vipers of the NBA D-League.2

Sexiest Man Alive? Things were tough in the ’70’s!

Squad Six is to the Bucks what beer is to Milwaukee (or anywhere else for that matter)... the catalyst for you doing dumb things in public and not feeling self-conscious!

by Big Crazy Dave on Jun 18, 2010 1:29 AM CDT up reply actions  

That Card

Also shows one of our ex-coaches. Mokeski was one of those heart and soul type players, would do whatever it took to win and was tough as nails. He was kind of like Charles Oakley without the talent.

by CanadaBucks on Jun 18, 2010 6:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

Does the Hayward Situation

Remind you a bit of Bryce Drew? Like gaining all this popularity from the Tournament.

by CanadaBucks on Jun 17, 2010 9:55 PM CDT reply actions  

Yep!!

I really hope they dont take him. I think he’d be a decent/good player off the bench for a team – just not the Bucks.

by victor s on Jun 17, 2010 10:08 PM CDT reply actions  

I wish we had a draft crystal ball

To see how each players career would pan out. Chad Ford doesn’t count.

"We follow people who know a lot more about basketball than I do or pretend to..."
--David Stern

by Jacob Grinyer on Jun 17, 2010 11:05 PM CDT reply actions  

That

Would take the fun out of it.

by CanadaBucks on Jun 18, 2010 7:39 AM CDT reply actions  

Shhhh.....

"We follow people who know a lot more about basketball than I do or pretend to..."
--David Stern

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