Bucks/Mavs: Milwaukee kicks off Vegas schedule
by Frank Madden on Jul 12, 2010 6:17 PM CDT
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Normally I'd post projected lineups, but I won't even bother guessing for the first game. Presumably Larry Sanders and Tiny Gallon will start up front, though we might also see Darnell Jackson in for Gallon at the outset. The Mavs have a major advantage merely from the fact that they've already played two games over the weekend (albeit both losses), and I'm not sure the Bucks have the guards to take full advantage of the talented big men on the roster...we'll see. The Mavs backcourt is led by Roddy Beaubois and Dominique Jones.
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Okay, I got my bootleg stream ready ;)
"Now, Maggette's one of those where when he catches, it's probably going to go up--Not to a teammate." --Jon McGlocklin, 11/14/09
My bootleg stream was really sketchy when I tried watching Detroit v Sacramento
I hope it clears up for the Bucks game
by Brick's house on Jul 12, 2010 6:53 PM CDT up reply actions
Mine's working pretty good...
But I haven’t really used it to watch a full game so…
"Now, Maggette's one of those where when he catches, it's probably going to go up--Not to a teammate." --Jon McGlocklin, 11/14/09
by Jacob Grinyer on Jul 12, 2010 6:56 PM CDT up reply actions
This
http://www.dailyfunsports.com/2010/07/link-1.html
"Now, Maggette's one of those where when he catches, it's probably going to go up--Not to a teammate." --Jon McGlocklin, 11/14/09
by Jacob Grinyer on Jul 12, 2010 7:10 PM CDT up reply actions
Not really concerned about whether the Bucks win or lose any of these games...
I just want to see how Sanders and Gallon preform.
"Now, Maggette's one of those where when he catches, it's probably going to go up--Not to a teammate." --Jon McGlocklin, 11/14/09
Sacramento 71 Detroit 46
Summer League is AWESOME!
"Now, Maggette's one of those where when he catches, it's probably going to go up--Not to a teammate." --Jon McGlocklin, 11/14/09
Of course
They would interrupt the Bucks game with David Stern’s announcement. Gosh dang it, what do you have to do to get some respect
What's he announcing?
That the Heat are charged with tampering and LBJ and Bosh will have to go back to their original teams? :D
"Now, Maggette's one of those where when he catches, it's probably going to go up--Not to a teammate." --Jon McGlocklin, 11/14/09
by Jacob Grinyer on Jul 12, 2010 6:59 PM CDT up reply actions
I know it's only SL, but Cousins & Whiteside look gooood!!
Maybe I was a bit hasty to dismiss HW during the draft ; )
Let's just hope Sanders is better
Although, I’m more upset that they passed on Lance Stephenson in the 2nd round, than Whiteside at this moment.
To use a baseball analogy.....
Hammond struck out w/ J Alexander and hit a home run w/ BJ…. let’s hope Sanders turns out to be a nice, solid, double : )
Didn't know Cousins could make that mid range jumper
Anyway it should start soon…
"Now, Maggette's one of those where when he catches, it's probably going to go up--Not to a teammate." --Jon McGlocklin, 11/14/09
Are you kidding me
We got stuck with Kevin McHale announcing. Ugh.
"Now, Maggette's one of those where when he catches, it's probably going to go up--Not to a teammate." --Jon McGlocklin, 11/14/09
Nice block by Sanders!
"Now, Maggette's one of those where when he catches, it's probably going to go up--Not to a teammate." --Jon McGlocklin, 11/14/09
Someone tell the announcers we were better without Redd.
"Now, Maggette's one of those where when he catches, it's probably going to go up--Not to a teammate." --Jon McGlocklin, 11/14/09
Did they just say they expect Salmons back?
by Frank Madden on Jul 12, 2010 7:34 PM CDT up reply actions
McHale said "All signs point to him being back" Lol....
"Now, Maggette's one of those where when he catches, it's probably going to go up--Not to a teammate." --Jon McGlocklin, 11/14/09
by Jacob Grinyer on Jul 12, 2010 7:35 PM CDT up reply actions
Pretty funny story about his first camp though :)
by Frank Madden on Jul 12, 2010 7:38 PM CDT up reply actions
"Turn your head and cough"
"Now, Maggette's one of those where when he catches, it's probably going to go up--Not to a teammate." --Jon McGlocklin, 11/14/09
by Jacob Grinyer on Jul 12, 2010 7:39 PM CDT up reply actions
Unfortunatley for Jay Bilas.
"Now, Maggette's one of those where when he catches, it's probably going to go up--Not to a teammate." --Jon McGlocklin, 11/14/09
by Jacob Grinyer on Jul 12, 2010 7:41 PM CDT up reply actions
Just like Hayward ;)
"Now, Maggette's one of those where when he catches, it's probably going to go up--Not to a teammate." --Jon McGlocklin, 11/14/09
by Jacob Grinyer on Jul 12, 2010 7:42 PM CDT up reply actions
Why do people think Sanders is a PF and not a C???
Do people think he can’t be a C because he’s skinny???
There has been plenty of skinny Centers who have been successful – especially if you’re a hustling rebounder & shot-blocker
All about matchups
Plenty of chances for a guy his size to get minutes at the 5.
by Frank Madden on Jul 12, 2010 7:47 PM CDT up reply actions
Ugh don't get hurt
"Now, Maggette's one of those where when he catches, it's probably going to go up--Not to a teammate." --Jon McGlocklin, 11/14/09
Colonel Sandman?
"Now, Maggette's one of those where when he catches, it's probably going to go up--Not to a teammate." --Jon McGlocklin, 11/14/09
by Jacob Grinyer on Jul 12, 2010 7:46 PM CDT up reply actions
Take him out !!!!!!
Sanders just fell …hehehe
by tommyr on Jul 12, 2010 7:44 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
I am looking it up, my computer is really slow right now
by Brick's house on Jul 12, 2010 7:50 PM CDT up reply actions
It was 7'3 in his pre draft combine
"Now, Maggette's one of those where when he catches, it's probably going to go up--Not to a teammate." --Jon McGlocklin, 11/14/09
by Jacob Grinyer on Jul 12, 2010 7:51 PM CDT up reply actions
Darnell isn't playing around.
"Now, Maggette's one of those where when he catches, it's probably going to go up--Not to a teammate." --Jon McGlocklin, 11/14/09
Nope
You can tell he’s done this before. Something to be said for being that wide…
by Frank Madden on Jul 12, 2010 7:50 PM CDT up reply actions
Did he enter?
"Now, Maggette's one of those where when he catches, it's probably going to go up--Not to a teammate." --Jon McGlocklin, 11/14/09
by Jacob Grinyer on Jul 12, 2010 7:52 PM CDT up reply actions
There's my answer
"Now, Maggette's one of those where when he catches, it's probably going to go up--Not to a teammate." --Jon McGlocklin, 11/14/09
by Jacob Grinyer on Jul 12, 2010 7:53 PM CDT up reply actions
Terrible mechanics
I mean, why on earth does he do that with his legs? Does he hate balance or something?
If you mean diet balance, then yes.
"Now, Maggette's one of those where when he catches, it's probably going to go up--Not to a teammate." --Jon McGlocklin, 11/14/09
by Jacob Grinyer on Jul 12, 2010 7:54 PM CDT up reply actions
Whoo Tiny!
"Now, Maggette's one of those where when he catches, it's probably going to go up--Not to a teammate." --Jon McGlocklin, 11/14/09
Tiny...nice hook
Jumper, not so much.
Btw, am I the only one who doesn’t think he looks like a 300 pounder?
Was actually thinking he looked a bit skinnier
"Now, Maggette's one of those where when he catches, it's probably going to go up--Not to a teammate." --Jon McGlocklin, 11/14/09
by Jacob Grinyer on Jul 12, 2010 8:01 PM CDT up reply actions
That's what I mean
He doesn’t look particularly fat.
by Frank Madden on Jul 12, 2010 8:01 PM CDT up reply actions
Good stuff
"Now, Maggette's one of those where when he catches, it's probably going to go up--Not to a teammate." --Jon McGlocklin, 11/14/09
by Jacob Grinyer on Jul 12, 2010 8:01 PM CDT up reply actions
No doubt
We’re seeing the rough edges on offense, but he moves exceptionally well. Once he calms down and learns to better read plays he should be a good P&R defender.
by Frank Madden on Jul 12, 2010 8:05 PM CDT up reply actions
Boy, I'm really hoping the bucks get a hit w/ Sanders....
I’m not expecting him to be an all-star, but if he can be a solid player off the bench and maybe be an eventual starter in a few yrs, Milw has done well.
Can Lin play PG? ;)
"Now, Maggette's one of those where when he catches, it's probably going to go up--Not to a teammate." --Jon McGlocklin, 11/14/09
The only guys I care to see any play out of is Sanders, Jackson, and Gallon.
Everybody else, give the ball up!
Definitely don't need Delany
Let Nelson run the point, he looks more poised
Sanders just need a PG to throw him some lobs
he’s ahead of everybody every time.
Enter Brandon Jennings...
"Now, Maggette's one of those where when he catches, it's probably going to go up--Not to a teammate." --Jon McGlocklin, 11/14/09
by Jacob Grinyer on Jul 12, 2010 8:14 PM CDT up reply actions
How much better would we look with a good NBA point guard?
I’m surprised the Mavs haven’t figured out a way to thrash us yet.
by Frank Madden on Jul 12, 2010 8:15 PM CDT up reply actions
With all the offense now on the team, I'm hoping BJ can avg 6+apg....
He has too much vision & passing skill not to
Jackson's bit of maturity is showing
He needs some defensive presence tho.
Keep the analysis coming
I only watched the first 10 minutes …(my 10-year old prefers the Home Run derby). What I did see, I liked. Very active. Gets up the court fast. Can you see him running the break with Jennings? Offense is raw; needs to go up stronger. Nice turnaround J.
But he did make one turn around.
"Now, Maggette's one of those where when he catches, it's probably going to go up--Not to a teammate." --Jon McGlocklin, 11/14/09
by Jacob Grinyer on Jul 12, 2010 8:22 PM CDT up reply actions
Keep in mind, it's SL... Skiles would yank LS in a sec if he took those shots in a real game
He’ll know his role the first day of training camp
Yeah, if he can’t go up strong to finish around the hoop he’ll be next to worthless on offense. The good news is he’s a Tasmanian Devil on defense.
by Frank Madden on Jul 12, 2010 8:22 PM CDT up reply actions
Is Kevin McHale hungry?
"Now, Maggette's one of those where when he catches, it's probably going to go up--Not to a teammate." --Jon McGlocklin, 11/14/09
Just wondering
Did Jesse Jackson’s tirade help the players or are they still wearing shackles and leg irons.
by CanadaBucks on Jul 12, 2010 8:32 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
lol +1
"Now, Maggette's one of those where when he catches, it's probably going to go up--Not to a teammate." --Jon McGlocklin, 11/14/09
by Jacob Grinyer on Jul 12, 2010 8:33 PM CDT up reply actions
Sanders 2/8 now!
"Now, Maggette's one of those where when he catches, it's probably going to go up--Not to a teammate." --Jon McGlocklin, 11/14/09
He has to be
"Now, Maggette's one of those where when he catches, it's probably going to go up--Not to a teammate." --Jon McGlocklin, 11/14/09
by Jacob Grinyer on Jul 12, 2010 8:36 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm happy he's working on it...
…I just wish it was better :)
by Frank Madden on Jul 12, 2010 8:36 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't think anyone is expecting much offense from him - atleast this year
He was drafted to do what he’s doing – hustle, rebound, block & alter shots – and he looks good so far!
A good PG will still get him a handful of dunks per game, just based on his hustle & ability to run the floor
Remember, they are all new teammates with each other
in the Summer League ..getting a feel for the sets and fellow players
I expect Sanders to get more comfortable in the next few games.
"Now, Maggette's one of those where when he catches, it's probably going to go up--Not to a teammate." --Jon McGlocklin, 11/14/09
Woah Tiny!
3 ball
"Now, Maggette's one of those where when he catches, it's probably going to go up--Not to a teammate." --Jon McGlocklin, 11/14/09
Didn't flail his feet out quite as much...
Can’t teach touch.
by Frank Madden on Jul 12, 2010 8:43 PM CDT up reply actions
1st lead
"Now, Maggette's one of those where when he catches, it's probably going to go up--Not to a teammate." --Jon McGlocklin, 11/14/09
Nice 40 point win for us
"Now, Maggette's one of those where when he catches, it's probably going to go up--Not to a teammate." --Jon McGlocklin, 11/14/09
by Jacob Grinyer on Jul 12, 2010 8:48 PM CDT up reply actions
Keep in mind... Sanders is probably VERY nervous... this is his first professional game
And it’s not like he was a McDonalds all-american in High School….. he came to basket ball later than most, and went to a small college.
Glad to see him get up
The man has been through too much. I’d really like to see him on this team.
by MadTown Hoops on Jul 12, 2010 8:54 PM CDT up reply actions
I, for one, am fine with Sanders offensive struggles
It’s his FIRST pro game…. he’ll be fine. I love his ability to run the floor, his activity, and his promise as a big time shot-blocker….. he’ll be in the top 5 in bpg by his 3rd year!
"Trying to keep him away from the Brats in Milwaukee"
I am offended by this ;)
"Now, Maggette's one of those where when he catches, it's probably going to go up--Not to a teammate." --Jon McGlocklin, 11/14/09
Sanders is basically Gadzuric right now
Big, mobile, active…and spazzing out on offense. Even hit a turnaround like Dan woud occasionally do. Fortunately he’s 21 and will get better.
That was a charge....
"Now, Maggette's one of those where when he catches, it's probably going to go up--Not to a teammate." --Jon McGlocklin, 11/14/09
Sanders has the physical potential of D Howard
Somebody get us a big mans coach
Bit of an overstatement, I think.
"Now, Maggette's one of those where when he catches, it's probably going to go up--Not to a teammate." --Jon McGlocklin, 11/14/09
by Jacob Grinyer on Jul 12, 2010 9:04 PM CDT up reply actions
Remember.... Bogut avg 9/7 his rookie year, and he was the #1 pick!!!
Sanders skills will shine w/ a quality PG – he tore it up as a soph w/ Eric Maynor…. just imagine BJ settin him up!
And Bogut can really mentor Sanders, too.
He was playing PF! Larry Harris is insane.
by MadTown Hoops on Jul 12, 2010 9:07 PM CDT up reply actions
Good point.... I was LIVID when he traded for J Magloire... but you get my point
With few exceptions, big men take a while to develop
At least he's being excellent defensively
"Now, Maggette's one of those where when he catches, it's probably going to go up--Not to a teammate." --Jon McGlocklin, 11/14/09
by Jacob Grinyer on Jul 12, 2010 9:04 PM CDT up reply actions
Agreed
He looks like a potential back-up pg
Sucks that all our “name” players are PF/Cs.
by Frank Madden on Jul 12, 2010 9:13 PM CDT up reply actions
I was expecting this to be more like a middle school break-down
Jackson 1st qtr, Gallon 2nd, Gallon 3rd, Jackson 4th kinda thing
Just goes to show the importance of a quality PG....
These guys make Diener look like Steve Nash
Thy Sanders.
"Now, Maggette's one of those where when he catches, it's probably going to go up--Not to a teammate." --Jon McGlocklin, 11/14/09
* thx
"Now, Maggette's one of those where when he catches, it's probably going to go up--Not to a teammate." --Jon McGlocklin, 11/14/09
by Jacob Grinyer on Jul 12, 2010 9:11 PM CDT up reply actions
Game's got away from us, methinks.
"Now, Maggette's one of those where when he catches, it's probably going to go up--Not to a teammate." --Jon McGlocklin, 11/14/09
Or not
"Now, Maggette's one of those where when he catches, it's probably going to go up--Not to a teammate." --Jon McGlocklin, 11/14/09
by Jacob Grinyer on Jul 12, 2010 9:20 PM CDT up reply actions
We're good at those :)
Sanders has looked best shooting jumpers…
by Frank Madden on Jul 12, 2010 9:21 PM CDT up reply actions
Tiny game winning 40 footer
"Now, Maggette's one of those where when he catches, it's probably going to go up--Not to a teammate." --Jon McGlocklin, 11/14/09
by Jacob Grinyer on Jul 12, 2010 9:21 PM CDT up reply actions
Does anyone know if Shaun Livingston is healthy???
Even if he’s half the player he was before the horrible knee injury, he’d be a fine backup to BJ.
He still has great handles, vision, and size…. the dude is 6’7"!!!
I read that Minny was interested in him
But they’re interested in everyone so…
"Now, Maggette's one of those where when he catches, it's probably going to go up--Not to a teammate." --Jon McGlocklin, 11/14/09
by Jacob Grinyer on Jul 12, 2010 9:22 PM CDT up reply actions
He's plenty healthy, watched him play all season last season for the Wiz
not a good 2nd stringer tho, still need a guy you can depend on
He's 25
recovering from an injury worse than Michael Redd, it just takes time to get confident and comfortable in the game. He never matured as a player so essentially, he’s a rookie. The Bucks need a guy who you can count on to back up Jennings, not a guy with a ?. I wouldn’t want to see them just sign Livingston without picking up a Anthony Carter too
Ahhh... I gotcha... good points
But SL has all-star skills, no?
He might be a steal if he stays healthy, as long as we had a good 3rd pg.
He definitely could be the biggest steal of the offseason
Which is why he’ll sign a 1 yr contract
Is anyone offering more than we could??
Maybe he waits for a big payday…. until teams get desperate
WASHINGTON MONUMENT!!!
"Now, Maggette's one of those where when he catches, it's probably going to go up--Not to a teammate." --Jon McGlocklin, 11/14/09
"Uh, we know you don't care about this game so once again, John wall is playing next!"
"Now, Maggette's one of those where when he catches, it's probably going to go up--Not to a teammate." --Jon McGlocklin, 11/14/09
Your kidding me.
"Now, Maggette's one of those where when he catches, it's probably going to go up--Not to a teammate." --Jon McGlocklin, 11/14/09
I'm kinda glad it went to overtime
Not only do we get more basketball, but also sports writers will have to mention this game.
Now they just have to win
"Now, Maggette's one of those where when he catches, it's probably going to go up--Not to a teammate." --Jon McGlocklin, 11/14/09
by Jacob Grinyer on Jul 12, 2010 9:28 PM CDT up reply actions
That lob went forever. How could none of our guys swat it?
by MadTown Hoops on Jul 12, 2010 9:27 PM CDT up reply actions
I know it's only SL but... ;)
"Now, Maggette's one of those where when he catches, it's probably going to go up--Not to a teammate." --Jon McGlocklin, 11/14/09
He might develop that first
before he refines (err..develops) his post moves
Dominic James looks like the most offensively challenged PG I've seen in a long time
He’s playing PG like a C who doesn’t want the ball at all. First thought is not create, its pass
The Bucks have a weird thing about bringing in guys for SL that played in WIS
They seem to do it a lot
Every team does it. Hell, the Bobcats once dedicated their draft to their home state. It’s teams signifying they care/don’t care about Summer League. James is alright, but seeing him tonight makes me hope he catches on with a team in Europe and we sign a vet.
by MadTown Hoops on Jul 12, 2010 9:43 PM CDT up reply actions
Who does Roddy think he is? Carlos Delfino?
"Now, Maggette's one of those where when he catches, it's probably going to go up--Not to a teammate." --Jon McGlocklin, 11/14/09
WASHINGTON MONUMENT!!!
"Now, Maggette's one of those where when he catches, it's probably going to go up--Not to a teammate." --Jon McGlocklin, 11/14/09
Well that was an entertaining game
But a win would have been nice
"Now, Maggette's one of those where when he catches, it's probably going to go up--Not to a teammate." --Jon McGlocklin, 11/14/09
Overall, I'm happy w/ what I saw from Sanders.... Tiny didn't get enough PT to fairly judge.
Sanders is young and raw, but has some serious tools to work with.
Only time will tell, but if he can be atleast a decent bench player that hustles, rebounds & blocks shots – Milw will have made a good pick – and that’s really all you can hope for in the unpredictable NBA draft w/ the 15th pick.
Well stated Victor
And it makes the Drew Gooden signing that much more pertinent. Skiles will be able to work in Sanders as he sees fit. He would be a nice compliment to the second unit of scorers, as he can concentrate on defense, and get some garbage points.
Who knows how the roster will shake out, but the more I think about it,,,,,
If we keep the bigs that we expect to – Luc looks to become a D specialist off the bench – which is a luxury for the team….. but a bummer for him, because his PT will be decreased this year.
I just don’t see him in the rotation at PF…. Gooden will get most of the min there, and Ersan needs to get 15-20mpg, IMO – w/ Sanders getting some min at the 4 & 5.
I still think JH trades Luc or Ersan
He trades Delfino
and moves Luc to the 3 with Maggette and CDR
i agree on Sanders...
he definitely passes the eyeball test in that he looks coordinated with and without the ball for a man that size
If Livingston could stay healthy, the Bucks would have one of the best PG duos in the NBA
Provided they sign him : )
I think we learned whoTiny got his eating habits from
Via Woelfel:
Big Baby Davis gave Tiny Gallon a pep talk after Bucks game. Gallon, who played 7 minutes, has known Davis since 9th grade.
http://twitter.com/GeryWoelfel/status/18404562404
These comparisons could hold some merit…
"Now, Maggette's one of those where when he catches, it's probably going to go up--Not to a teammate." --Jon McGlocklin, 11/14/09
At the end of the day.... we have to look 3-5yrs down the road for Sanders
Not only do bigs take longer to develop, Sanders came to the game later than most…. so he is on a steep learning curve.
He very well could become a 12/10/3 player in a few yrs, but there’s going to be some growing pains along the way…. but if the team is patient and brings him along slowly, he looks to be a good one : )
Thats a long wait
If he can’t contribute by next season, he’s tradable.
its all up in the air really who can say.....
maybe Sanders find his rhythm and niche early and finds a role on the bucks and he develops quickly or maybe he cant find any minutes on a play off bound team and he come along at a slower pace………..
its all all guesswork for everyone at the moment…..only been 1 summer league game….Im ready to give the kid a chance and see how it all plays out…….Im pretty confident he can make an impact with his ability to get up and down the floor, and be help out shot blocker
"That," says LeBron, "is for everyone that watches me play. They witness something special. You're all a witness."
Really?... tradeable??.... was Bogut "tradeable" because it took him a few years to blossom???
Sanders is 21 and didn’t play organized hoops until H.S. – it’s not like he’s Tim Duncan coming out of Wake Forest, who was pretty much a finished product.
Most bigs take a while to develop…..
I’m not saying he’s gonna suck for 3-5yrs, but rather it’ll take a few years for him to blossom, because of the steep learning curve he is on.
Amen Victor
Discussing whether Larry Sanders is tradeable at this juncture, is oh so premature. There’s a reason they got Gooden; so they do not have to rush Sanders.
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