Mavs 73, Bucks 72: Guards help Dallas squeak by
Nothing like a zany ending to add a bit of spice to a Vegas game, eh? Despite a major talent deficit in the backcourt, the Bucks hung around and twice almost won their Vegas opener, but Roddy Beaubois (15 pts on 14 shots) and company did just enough to hold off Jim Boylan's crew in overtime. Deron Washington twice gave the Bucks a lead in the waning seconds, but a poorly-defended lob play at the end of regulation and a nice pull-up from Beaubois in OT were enough to see them sneak by in a game they probably should have won going away.
Dallas led early and for a while it didn't seem like anyone except Darnell Jackson (17/7) would score, but to their credit the Bucks kept plugging away and Dallas kept fouling (30-20 fouls). Milwaukee's guards predictably struggled to create good shots, with DeMarcus Nelson slightly better than the rest--mostly because he was smart enough to attack the rim and throw his body at defenders to draw fouls. Larry Sanders struggled from the field, but was an energizer on defense and looked generally OK when he wasn't trying to force up shots.
Larry Sanders - 33 min, 4/15 fg, 1/2 ft, 9 pts, 7 rebs, 3 blk, 1 ast, 1 stl, 6 to
Well, the scouting reports were right in at least one sense: Sanders is a work in progress. Offensively, he struggled with his finishing and often rushed shots from all over the court, but he also hit an early turnaround and buried a couple open 15-18 footers, flashing nice balance and form when he had time to measure his shot. The Bucks obviously want him to work on his offensive game this week, but it would have helped if he calmed down a bit and took his time, as six turnovers and poor shooting were indicative of a lack of patience early on. He's not just an athlete, but he's got work to do.
Though he didn't have too hard of a time establishing position against the Mavs' mediocre big men, it was also clear that he needs to develop a go-to post move other than a turnaround jumper. I was a bit surprised he seemed to get most of his touches on the right block, as I assumed his preferred move would be a righty hook turning into the middle (easier to set up from the opposite side). He also looked a bit meek when he went up for a couple contested looks around the cup, which was probably the most disappointing thing about his game. If nothing else he should be able to use his size and energy to score garbage points, but we didn't really see that tonight. Not having an NBA-caliber point guard definitely hurt, as Sanders used his terrific end-to-end speed to beat his man in transition a half dozen times without getting a look.
On a positive note, Sanders was also a disruptive defender, blocking three shots and altering a few more, mostly in help situations. As was hoped, his length and quickness allow him to make up tons of ground on both ends, giving him excellent potential as a help and P&R defender. He wasn't really tested on the block much, but it's clear he could stand to strengthen his base. As a rebounder he showed decent hands but didn't always find the best position. Some added bulk would definitely help, but his length and athleticism suggest Scott Skiles should be able to find time for him at the 4 and 5.
Darnell Jackson - 26 min, 8/15 fg, 1/3 ft, 17 pts, 7 reb
Jackson looked like an NBA player against the Mavericks' inexperienced frontline, using his wide frame to muscle past taller defenders and get his shot off despite his lack of explosiveness. Jackson's not super-skilled but he just has a good sense for how to play, showing the kind of instincts in the paint that Sanders and Gallon will hopefully gain sooner rather than later. That might make him more useful as a Summer League ringer than an end-of-the-bench type for the Bucks, but they could do much worse with their last roster spot.
Tiny Gallon - 7 min, 2/5 fg, 5 pts, 3 reb, 1 to
The problem with having all your "good" players at the 4/5 is that somebody had to miss out, and in this case it was the 19-year-old rookie. A bit disappointing given Sean Williams is unlikely to make the roster, but Gallon will probably get his chances as the week goes on. Coming off the bench, Tiny quickly forced a 20-footer after stepping on the court, needlessly contorting his body on a fairly open look. But he followed it up by gaining deep position to finish nicely with his right hand off the glass, and gave the crowd something to like by stepping back to hit a straight-away three in the second half. Though he established deep post position a handful of times, he missed two other turnarounds when it would have been nicer to see him attack his defender.
My first reaction to seeing Gallon on the floor was that he didn't look particularly fat; he's just a big-bodied dude. The only time when his size really seemed obvious was when he tried to run at full speed...let's just say he's not a gazelle. Overall, his short time on the court didn't do anything to persuade me he would see real playing time this year, but I won't pretend that the first seven minutes of summer league are anything close to a significant sample size. Let's hope he seems more time tomorrow night, because he clearly needs the time on the court.
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Does this mean we have to stop all the weight jokes now...?
"Now, Maggette's one of those where when he catches, it's probably going to go up--Not to a teammate." --Jon McGlocklin, 11/14/09
yeah leave thd kid alone his just got big bones
"That," says LeBron, "is for everyone that watches me play. They witness something special. You're all a witness."
Heh no problem
"Now, Maggette's one of those where when he catches, it's probably going to go up--Not to a teammate." --Jon McGlocklin, 11/14/09
by Speedingtime on Jul 13, 2010 6:19 AM CDT up reply actions
i was speaking generally ;)
"That," says LeBron, "is for everyone that watches me play. They witness something special. You're all a witness."
Bucks Summer Opener
Sean Williams probably could make the strongest impact as the backup PF because he has two years of NBA experience. He is a strong shot blocker and can finish in traffic. Larry Sanders struggled offensively in the post and with turnovers but played strong defense, hustled and ran the floor well. Darnell Jackson played well but I don’t know if he is long or athletic enough to play significant minutes at power forward.
It doesn't look like any of the Bucks SL PGs are the answer behind BJ.... what's JH gonna do???
Trade for BJs backup – or sign one the remaining FAs??? There’s not much left on the scrap heap…. so he better move quick, if that’s his angle.
Adding Frontcourt Depth
I liked Sean Williams game. He did a good job of gaining position downlow and boxing out for rebounds, offensively and defensively. He also didn’t force any shots or turn the ball over. That’s always a plus. I remember seeing a couple of his highlight reel blocks and dunks when he was at Boston College and when he played for the Nets. Imagine his high-flying antics with Brandon Jennings court vision. That could be a scary theme for opposing teams. I would love to see him make the Bucks 15-man roster and get a second chance to prove himself as an NBA player with the Bucks this season. I’m pretty sure it won’t cost much for his services.
by ignoranceisbliss on Jul 13, 2010 12:44 AM CDT reply actions
The Slim Tiny
As a Bucks fan now living in Vegas I was at the game, and can confirm that Tiny doesn’t look the least bit fat, in fact I’d go so far as to say he looked thin for his frame. You have to wonder where his mind is at, though. Because Tiny has so much entertainment potential I kept a close eye on him tonight. Here’s what I saw:
Ten minutes before scheduled tip off, I was talking to another Wisconsinite in the halls outside the court when they said “Hey look, there’s Tiny Gallon.” Sure enough, there was Tiny trotting to the public bathrooms. Don’t they have bathrooms in the locker room I wondered? Odd.
Pregame shootaround. Summer League is a very informal, social scene. Still, Tiny took a couple minutes to high five and chat with a friend while everyone else was shooting. (He would end up doing the same thing during halftime shootaround as well.) Tiny did find the time to nonchalantly drill a 3-pointer just as the horn signaling game time sounded.
Tiny’s brief first half appearance. I may have been distracted, but I think I saw three touches, three shots. I got the immediate impression that if Tiny sees the ball he’s shooting. On the shot he made he backed down some unknown 7’4" Manute Bol-looking guy from Senegal and launched a blind, backwards shot over his head, but, hey, it went in. It just looked like a no-look shot you’d try in a game of H-O-R-S-E to me. When the Bucks call timeout the entire current lineup is facing Coach Boylan except for Tiny, who is instead watching some grade school girl competing in a timeout shooting contest on the opposite end of the court.
You get the picture. Tiny is a gregarious, talented, smooth-shooting big man that needs to wear horse blinders or hire a personal wrangler to remind him every sixty seconds that “Hey, wake up! You’re trying to make an NBA team here!”
I think...
…that between Skiles, Bogut, Boylan and BJ the Bucks already have a decent wrangling team for Tiny. I’d be lying, tho, if I said that your observations are not a little disturbing as to his attitude/maturity. It’s a scary thought that he could be a less athletic and less skilled Michael Beasley… ADD anyone?
+1 for the blinders quip ;)
Squad Six is to the Bucks what beer is to Milwaukee (or anywhere else for that matter)... the catalyst for you doing dumb things in public and not feeling self-conscious!
by Big Crazy Dave on Jul 13, 2010 2:33 AM CDT up reply actions
I think its all very endearing........
"That," says LeBron, "is for everyone that watches me play. They witness something special. You're all a witness."
also Ima bit disappointed that he isnt as fat as advertised......thats a let down
but lets be realistic this guy is pick 47 right? If he wasnt named Tiny and his proportions and character wasnt to out there we wouldnt really be expecting much at all………
so Im not obviously the kid has some talent but if he didnt have shortcomings he wouldnt have been passed obver 47 times….so honestly if he sticks in the league it will be a great bonus, if he can contribute even a greater deal
but if he flames out that the most likely outcome for a not only a 2nd rounder but for most guys
"That," says LeBron, "is for everyone that watches me play. They witness something special. You're all a witness."
that was a horrible sentence Ill try again haha
if he flames out, that is probably the most likely outcome, not only for a 2nd round pick but for the majority of guys outside the lottery…..how many will still be in the league after 4 years? I assume the rate would not be above 60%?
"That," says LeBron, "is for everyone that watches me play. They witness something special. You're all a witness."
TIGHT tights...?
Squad Six is to the Bucks what beer is to Milwaukee (or anywhere else for that matter)... the catalyst for you doing dumb things in public and not feeling self-conscious!
by Big Crazy Dave on Jul 14, 2010 1:08 AM CDT up reply actions
short shorts
"That," says LeBron, "is for everyone that watches me play. They witness something special. You're all a witness."
:P
Squad Six is to the Bucks what beer is to Milwaukee (or anywhere else for that matter)... the catalyst for you doing dumb things in public and not feeling self-conscious!
by Big Crazy Dave on Jul 14, 2010 4:02 AM CDT up reply actions
On Moussah Seck! That was a nice play…I think Tiny has a long road if he is gonna make a NBA team, because “nothing” stood out to me about him being dominant at 300lbs!
Especially at the end when Boylan wouldn’t put him out to try to disrupt in in bounds pass…He’s a scrub too…BJ3 burned us on a player!
by Marko Schmidt on Jul 13, 2010 5:56 PM CDT up reply actions
funny you should mention Beasley...
but I wouldn’t want to liken Gallon to him. Psychologically speaking, Michael Beasley reminds me of a young Dennis Rodman: self-absorbed, disinterested and willfully oblivious (although hopefully not depressed like Rodman was). Gallon, on the other hand, is more like a big, friendly, outgoing sheepdog with, as you suggested, ADD.
Haha!
That’s a funny visual of Tiny! :)
Squad Six is to the Bucks what beer is to Milwaukee (or anywhere else for that matter)... the catalyst for you doing dumb things in public and not feeling self-conscious!
by Big Crazy Dave on Jul 14, 2010 1:12 AM CDT up reply actions
Nice!
I hadn’t visited this thread in awhile, but let me say well done!
Our bigs looked raw...
(or in Jackson’s case, limited). Our smalls looked point-less. I found some interest in our mediums, like Washington and Nelson and our generic version of Heyward. But there must be a ton of guys with similar talent. Active, athletic, but without that super skill.
As unprepared as he was, I’m not down on Sanders – he just has to learn how to play NBA basketball. I expect him to be able to learn.
Sean Williams didn’t look like a problem. Demeanor wasn’t troubled. Participated with the team. Looked athletic, particularly for 6-10. Did some stuff. Showed some emotion. But he seemed muted. As if meds had smoothed him out. (Not suggesting he was on anything.) Didn’t seem particularly hungry but at the same time he seemed willing. Looked like a talent IF he buys in more deeply…
Mostly I was glad my attempt to sign up for SL broadband at the discounted price had failed. Not that it can’t be good entertainment for broadly-based fans. Rather, that this week in Vegas looked like it has very little to do with the regular season team. The rookies like Sanders who are going to make the team are starting from scratch their ass and wonder what they should have done. They’ll be different after training camp (though Tiny may take longer). And the others? I admire how hard they work. I see skills. I wish them luck in their future endeavors.
Random ramblings...
Sanders is going to be a great defensive presence his rookie year. Our four man BIG MAN rotation of Bogut, Gooden, Sanders and Ersan is certainly an upgrade over last year.
Gallon has loads of talent but an imature approach at this point. D League for sure at minimum until after the Holidays, if not all season. If he does grow up in the next year, you have a gem at 47.
If he doesn’t pan out, Hammond willswiftly move on without him. But for now give him some time. Gaurd play was bad as you all know. making it even more dificult for the bigs to get going.
Darnell Jackson may make this team yet. Nice outing, with a good showing inside. Sean Williams has always been intriqueing to me, but with one open roster spot, that will either go to a backup PG, or remain open as Hammiond likes to go into a season with only 14 players.
If it comes down to Jackson or Williams for the 14th spot (at present), it’s too close to call after last night. That is why someone earlier had said this is the most important stretch of Jackson’s basketball life.
Sean William I think will be in the NBA season somewhere, IF his head is on straight. Gallon may need not have to look any further than his own team, to see someone with emense talent (Williams), who’se head has been his major downfall, in an otherwise very promising career.
So I would think because Jackson has been around working hard for several months, if all things are qual, and given Williams penchant historically of wanting to buck the system, I say the Jackson owns two tie breakers, at least up until now.
Time is what is needed to evaluate Williams, and if his attitude will stay changed.
This WHOLE team looks RAW!
I was totally excited to see some Bucks basketball last night!
With all the hoopla of the James fiasco, and how crappy the Brewers are, this was refreshing.
Maybe it’s just me, or it’s just apparent that it’s the Bucks first game in summer league because we looked Raw!
This is a team full of project players, especially when Sean Williams and Darnell Jackson look like stars! It really looks like we don’t have any future impact players on our practice squad!
Marquette Fans…3 words for ya! …“Dominic James Sucks!”
Back up PG for Brandon…Please!
Bucks better use the “BAE” on a vet, or bring some ’quality" international player over to add to our 7 Nation Army!
After watching tonight’s game, I am actually glad JH went out and signed Gooden because Sanders is a total PROJECT player! (I don’t mean to be so critical, but He’s gonna need some more time!)
I mean he is everything that the announcers were saying about him on draft night. “The Body”, “The Speed”, “The Defensive Mindset”…but, he is not ready to be in the pro rotation, and I doubt a few games in Summer League are go to change that!
I mean Sanders was “missing bunnies”…1 and 2 foot high % “Gimmie” shots with his back faced to the rim!
Defensively, he showed some flashes of brilliance, when he wouldn’t give up on a play, chasing a few shots down from behind, getting a rim slapping block!
But offensively, he is horrid right now. ( Verdict: NBADL him for the roster spot!)
Derron Washington played some good minutes and showed the athleticism he had at Virginia Tech. I loved the DUNK and then the 3. But, what makes me mad is that “DJ” killed the MOJO… coming off the bench!!!
He is just a garbage player! Turkey can have him back!
But, back to Washington, he is still rough…but might be someone the Euro league may be watching.
Some real “circus trick” shots coupled with CRAPPY defense from DJ costed the Bucks this game!
I shouldn’t be so critical, realistically it’s their first game but our team sucks!
I tried to think about Boylan not bringing “Tiny in” to try and disrupt the in bounds pass in the end! But, I guess it wouldn’t have mattered, this team is filled with scrubs!
Let’s do better against Memphis! …Not!
http://www.brewhoop.com/2010/7/13/1568108/silence-is-the-best-weapon-against
"Now, Maggette's one of those where when he catches, it's probably going to go up--Not to a teammate." --Jon McGlocklin, 11/14/09
by Speedingtime on Jul 13, 2010 6:51 PM CDT up reply actions
Theres a thread over here for anybody who want s to join in:
http://www.brewhoop.com/2010/7/13/1568182/summer-league-thread-milwaukee-v
"Now, Maggette's one of those where when he catches, it's probably going to go up--Not to a teammate." --Jon McGlocklin, 11/14/09

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