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Brockman in town, dealing with Redd and Tiny, Jennings in China

Bucks.com: Brockman press conference
One highlight from John Hammond, regarding why Brockman fits in with the Bucks' philosophy:

"Let's also have the toughest, most highly energetic people we can possibly find. Because toughness and energy will also win for you. And I think by NBA standards, Jon is going to be right at the top when you talk about someone that plays with those two aspects in his game.  In that regard he's going to be a great fit. You can never have too many guys like that--we won with guys like that last year. Adding another person like that is only going to help us."

And he digs Big Crazy Dave's artwork, too. Despite Brockman's lack of length, Hammond also said the Bucks viewed him as capable of playing both the power forward and center positions. A good thing given the Bucks' lack of experience behind Andrew Bogut. And yes, I'm sad that Kurt Thomas is heading to Chicago. I assumed he was gone, but the Bulls? Damn, Kurt.

Star-divide

Delfino: An egg that's hatched?
Really enjoyed this piece that our Argentine correspondent Palomba posted on Carlos Delfino (c
redit to unklchuk for the egg metaphor!). Check it out if you haven't already.

JS: Hammond says Redd wants to keep playing
A bit more discussion on the Buck who shall not be named.

"We just say February, but there’s not a February date per se," said Hammond during a press conference to introduce newcomer Jon Brockman. "It could be before or it could be after. I think it’s just somewhat of a targeted date but who knows when that’s going to be?

"But at the end of the day, all we’re doing is supporting Michael as he continues to go through this process and supporting him through the re-hab. He knows we’re there for him. I know he’s working as hard as he possibly can to get himself back. There’s no doubt in my mind that he wants to continue his NBA career and he’s got a long road ahead of him to get to that point."

Bucksketball: Patience a virtue...for some
Pretty much agree with everything in Jeremy's latest piece.

When I see Coach Skiles say Gallon has ‘an awful lot to work on’ and is ‘going to need to be a lot better to make our team and do anything.’ I don’t get concerned. I get excited. That’s how young players get developed in the league. No hand-holding, no bsing, just an organization getting serious with its players. While Coach Skiles is saying that, the assistants are working hard with Gallon to make sure he knows where he needs to improve. To me, Skiles quotes are not an indication that Gallon isn’t going to be apart of Milwaukee’s future, just a comment on how talented Milwaukee is these days.

Dime: Do the Right Thing for Redd
Everyone wants to talk about Redd.

Hopefully the Bucks remember the human element of this game and do the right thing. Whatever that may be, if it’s trading him to a decent team, negotiating a reasonable buyout, or letting him stay with the team and seeing if he can contribute down the stretch during a playoff run. Just remember, he’s not a poker chip.

Honestly, I don't see how the Bucks owe Redd anything in terms of playing time this year. It's a different team from the one he once captained, and if there are doubts about his ability to help the team then there's no room for the Bucks to be charitable. I doubt Redd would want that either, though as a competitor he'll probably always believe he can help the team. Trading his expiring deal is always an option, but that would likely involve committing more long-term dollars to someone who may not be worth it (we'll see).

If and when Redd is ready to return, the Bucks can also consider buying him out. But while he's injured the Bucks are best off collecting insurance checks and letting him rehab on his own--there's no sense in a buyout. Redd will make $18.3 million regardless of what he does on the court, and the Bucks stand to make 80% of that back so long as he's not playing. Why would Redd accept significantly less than what he's owed, and why would the Bucks offer close to that amount until he's back?  

Thorpe: Summer League rookie rankings
David Thorpe has Larry Sanders ranked 8th in his wrap-up of summer league rookies. In case you're curious, here's the same column from last year.

Sanders helps prove a point I always like to make: In the NBA, the first guy to the ball normally wins. Sanders is still thin, but his bounce and energy get his hands to the ball first most of the time. Those two talents also earn him quality shots inside. Although he's not a finisher yet, that kind of upside is exciting to Bucks personnel.

SBNation.comRanking All 30 NBA GMs
Mike Prada takes a valiant crack at ranking basketball's decision-makers. He's got John Hammond coming in at number 11, dropping him for this summer's more free spending approach. 

Hammond would have been higher if not for his curious 2010 offseason, when he seemingly abandoned the principles that allowed his club to have so much success in 2009/10. Last season, the Bucks were the quintessential "more than the sum of their parts" team, and Hammond deserves so much credit because he realized that tough defense is undervalued in this market. He hired a coach who preaches it, made sure to build around a point guard/center tandem and found great bargains to fill the other spots in the lineup. He was also opportunistic in trading for John Salmons when his value was lowest.

The interesting part is that even Hammond has acknowledged the change in philosophy, noting that the Bucks didn't feel like they could stand pat after last season's unexpected success.

Xinhua: Jennings shines in China-NBA charity game
Brandon Jennings apparently wasn't good enough for the Team USA training camp (I smell motivation?), so he's getting his travel on in China, playing in charity games to raise money for Yao Ming's foundation. He scored 23 on 10/17 shooting to lead the US team to victory. Have fun, Brandon...and don't get hurt. 

SI: Worst deals of the summer
Britt Robson is not a fan of the Bucks' summer wing spending.

Maggette hurts his team two ways: no ball movement and no defense. On a Warriors team of chuckers, he ranked behind only guard Monta Ellis in shots per minute, and even that total is deflated by all the shots that don't get tabulated because he was fouled on the play. At the other end of the court, Maggette was a liability. As badly as Golden State plays defense, it was 6.3 points per 100 possessions worse when Maggette was on the court.

It's not guaranteed that Maggette will be a good thing on net for the Bucks, but let's also not confuse ball movement with good offense. The Bucks were 23rd in offensive efficiency last year and moved the ball a bunch in part because they didn't have players capable of creating their own shot. That's why a reputed "ball-stopper" like Salmons didn't hurt them one bit--finally they had someone capable of putting pressure on the defense rather than dumping it off like a hot potato. You can make a good argument for why Salmons and Maggette together aren't a great offensive pairing, but that's also why I'd be happy to see them bring Maggette off the bench.

The defensive concerns are more valid, but one thing to remember is that Maggette was playing mostly out of position as a power forward last year. I'm not going to claim that he's a good defender, but his numbers in Golden State are tough to take at face value, especially on defense. The last time he played SF full time (07/08), the Clippers were actually better defensively by 3.3 pts/100 possessions when he was on the court. I'd be very surprised if the Bucks were better defensively with him on the court this year--Carlos Delfino and Luc Mbah a Moute are actually above average defenders--but I'm not convinced he's going to single-handedly deep six the Bucks' defense.

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I found it odd

How that article thought the Salmons signing was worse then Gooden.

"Now, Maggette's one of those where when he catches, it's probably going to go up--Not to a teammate." --Jon McGlocklin, 11/14/09

by Speedingtime on Jul 25, 2010 12:45 PM CDT reply actions  

Resigning the engine that pushed the bucks into the playoffs is a bad thing?

Wow. Just wow.

Now, Bulls fans can swallow their tongues four times a year, because they traded a role-player within their own division. Brilliant.

There should seriously be some sort of pool as to where the current Bulls end up over the course of their careers. Noah to the Clippers? Deng to the Bobcats? Anything’s possible with the wacky Bulls front office running things…

by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Jul 25, 2010 9:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well I could have told you

that Tiny had an awful lot to work on. I would have been surprised if Skiles DIDN’T say something like that

"But we all know that games aren't played on paper...they are played by little men inside our TV sets." --Kenny Mayne

by dishingoutdimes on Jul 25, 2010 12:59 PM CDT reply actions  

Maggette and Ball Movement

I think I asked this question on another thread but don’t think it was ever answered so here goes again
When are you a “ball-stopper” and when are you a “scorer”? Is Kevin Durant a “Ball-stopper”? Kobe, LBJ, Wade? Not that I’m trying to compare Maggette to any of these players but if you look at last years per 36 minsutes you have
Maggette 15.3 FGA 24 PPG
Durant 18.5 27.5
Kobe 19.9 25
LBJ 18.5 27.4

I know there’s other things to factor in but plain and simple Maggette can score and he does so pretty efficiently compared to these “scorers”

As for his defense I can’t really comment as I don’t see GS play much at all but I’m not convinced that any defense statistics are at all telling, but we’re paying him to score and I’m sure we’ll be happy we have him.

I'm taking my talents to.......The Golden Arches!

by CanadaBucks on Jul 25, 2010 1:27 PM CDT reply actions  

The best way I've tried to see how much a player needs/uses the ball in his hands is USG%

Basically the % of team possessions used by the player while he’s on the floor. It takes into account FGA, FTA and turnovers. Maggette’s last year was 26.69% which was eleventh in the league among SG’s/SF who played over 40 games and averaged over 15 minutes. Some other players in the 25-27% range were Brandon Roy, Joe Johnson, Jamal Crawford, Manu, J.R Smith (!), V.C, Rip, Cap’n Jack, and Barbosa (!!!). Among those players, Maggette has the third highest PER, only behind Roy and Manu.[Yes, better than JJ…;)] So, a lot of the time, Maggette hogs the ball efficiently, if you will…

Might not be the best way to measure it, but hey, I haven’t found an exact stat to measure ball Hog…ness.

"Now, Maggette's one of those where when he catches, it's probably going to go up--Not to a teammate." --Jon McGlocklin, 11/14/09

by Speedingtime on Jul 25, 2010 3:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm convinced

You’re a ball-stopper if you’re on a losing team and a scorer on a winning team, the perception of Maggette may change this year.

I'm taking my talents to.......The Golden Arches!

by CanadaBucks on Jul 25, 2010 3:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's what I think too.

Just as long as said player doesn’t hurt your chances of winning.

"Now, Maggette's one of those where when he catches, it's probably going to go up--Not to a teammate." --Jon McGlocklin, 11/14/09

by Speedingtime on Jul 25, 2010 3:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Can you get those stats for older players too?

Probably not I guess, but I’m curious how it would compare to old-time ball-hogs like World B. Free and Pete Maravich etc.

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by CanadaBucks on Jul 25, 2010 3:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

Actually you can

http://www.basketball-reference.com/

Just search a player and you can find all sorts of stuff. World B’s highest was 32 percent USG, just as an example.

"Now, Maggette's one of those where when he catches, it's probably going to go up--Not to a teammate." --Jon McGlocklin, 11/14/09

by Speedingtime on Jul 25, 2010 3:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wow

So he was a ball hog. I wonder if that was a year where he played with McGinnis and Dr. J?

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by CanadaBucks on Jul 25, 2010 4:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

I checked

It was with the Clips. might explain why it was so high.

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by CanadaBucks on Jul 25, 2010 5:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

And the record for highest USG% goes to...

Kobe Bryant, with 38% in 2005-2006.

"Now, Maggette's one of those where when he catches, it's probably going to go up--Not to a teammate." --Jon McGlocklin, 11/14/09

by Speedingtime on Jul 25, 2010 6:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Holy crap

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by CanadaBucks on Jul 25, 2010 6:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

better than passing it to Smush Parker I imagine

"That," says LeBron, "is for everyone that watches me play. They witness something special. You're all a witness."

by ILIKEBJ'S on Jul 25, 2010 9:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

or Chris Mihm

"That," says LeBron, "is for everyone that watches me play. They witness something special. You're all a witness."

by ILIKEBJ'S on Jul 25, 2010 9:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

hmm poor Kwame just might be

does that make Jordan the worst basketball executive ever? Kwame Brown & Adam Morrison are some greatest hits

"That," says LeBron, "is for everyone that watches me play. They witness something special. You're all a witness."

by ILIKEBJ'S on Jul 26, 2010 2:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

Oden...

Should have something to say about that…

"I want someone who will, you know, let me put it in or who [will] suck on it." – Donald Sterling

by Dow Jones on Jul 26, 2010 4:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

LaRue Martin?

Kandi Man? Not trying to stick up for Kwame but he beats the crap outa those two guys. Even our beloved Kent Benson weasn’t a whole lot better than Kwame.

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by CanadaBucks on Jul 26, 2010 6:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oden's a good defensive player when his knee is in working order.

But he’s got to improve his look in a suit before he can join Luke Ridnour and Jerryd Bayless as “Best Dressed” in the NBA…

by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Jul 26, 2010 11:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Damon Jones!

Maybe he should play first base instead. That is, he should lie out there and we can step on him when we get a hit.

by TheJay on Jul 27, 2010 8:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

True

But this is ball-hog history

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by CanadaBucks on Jul 25, 2010 9:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oh the Laker glory days...

"Now, Maggette's one of those where when he catches, it's probably going to go up--Not to a teammate." --Jon McGlocklin, 11/14/09

by Speedingtime on Jul 26, 2010 1:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

twas a golden era

"That," says LeBron, "is for everyone that watches me play. They witness something special. You're all a witness."

by ILIKEBJ'S on Jul 26, 2010 1:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

From Golden State of Mind

Thread after Maggette was traded.

Maggette was nothing but a class act during his time in Oakland. If Tim Kawakami thinks that Scott Skiles will have trouble coaching Maggette, he’s wrong. Maggette was a solid veteran presence and did wonders for Monta and Steph. He wasn’t the problem here, the problem is Don Nelson. Maggette has played for the Clippers and the Warriors, two of the most dysfunctional franchises and I would like nothing more than to see Corey go out there and start winning.

This isn’t like Stack Jack, who cried his way out of town. This is a guy that suited up and played everyday, no matter where he was or what people said about him. He was constantly booed by fans and dissed in the press, but he didn’t let it get to him. He still played through numerous injuries, giving his all for his teammates and his fans.

This ones for you Corey, many have forced their way out in the past, but you stuck with us. For that I thank you, and wish you the best of luck. Nothing would make me happier than seeing you finally get the recognition you deserve.

Thanks Corey for everything, sorry you had to play for Nellie, Rowell and Cohan.

"Now, Maggette's one of those where when he catches, it's probably going to go up--Not to a teammate." --Jon McGlocklin, 11/14/09

by Speedingtime on Jul 25, 2010 7:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

I like Maggette

I watched him play plenty for the 2007-08 Clippers and he was definately a scorer; very fun to watch and he can put points up in bunches. He has the talent to play some D and if his minutes depend on it, I think he will be at the very least an average defender but he could be much better. As for his attitude, this guy never displayed any of the premadonna type behaviour while he was a Clipper playing on some truly awful teams. If he had some issues with Nelson, I don’t blame him….He was more than willing to come off the bench as well, whatever he could do to help them win. Unfortunately, the clubs he’s been on have been so poor that never happened. Finally he is on a team with talent and I hope Milwaukee fans give Corey his due respect

"I want someone who will, you know, let me put it in or who [will] suck on it." – Donald Sterling

by Dow Jones on Jul 26, 2010 4:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

actually apparently he and Nelson got on like a house on fire.....best pals....which scares me even more

"That," says LeBron, "is for everyone that watches me play. They witness something special. You're all a witness."

by ILIKEBJ'S on Jul 26, 2010 5:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yes BJ's, give Corey his due respect ;)

"Now, Maggette's one of those where when he catches, it's probably going to go up--Not to a teammate." --Jon McGlocklin, 11/14/09

by Speedingtime on Jul 26, 2010 6:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ive pretty complimentary to Corey recently as much as it hurts......he is a Buck after all now

"That," says LeBron, "is for everyone that watches me play. They witness something special. You're all a witness."

by ILIKEBJ'S on Jul 27, 2010 12:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

Hmmm....

didn’t follow him in Golden State, but if thats the case…yikes! I know he didnt get along with Mike Dunleavy but very few players did so not much to glean from that

"I want someone who will, you know, let me put it in or who [will] suck on it." – Donald Sterling

by Dow Jones on Jul 26, 2010 9:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

If he gets the mpg [likely] I believe Maggette will be in the discussion for 6th MOY.... and maybe win it.

And his D will be fine – he was brought here to score, anyways.

Of all of Hammonds moves this Summer, acquiring CM may turn out to be the best one.

by victor s on Jul 26, 2010 6:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Maggette hogs the ball efficiently: you nailed it

if he does that for the Bucks that will be half the battle won

"That," says LeBron, "is for everyone that watches me play. They witness something special. You're all a witness."

by ILIKEBJ'S on Jul 25, 2010 3:43 PM CDT reply actions  

Just remember, he’s not a poker chip.

Of course he IS!!! The minute he accepted his full $18mil salary and went out into the media to say he wouldn’t be back until February, he became a pocker chip.

"I want someone who will, you know, let me put it in or who [will] suck on it." – Donald Sterling

by Dow Jones on Jul 25, 2010 4:11 PM CDT reply actions  

*Poker

"I want someone who will, you know, let me put it in or who [will] suck on it." – Donald Sterling

by Dow Jones on Jul 25, 2010 4:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

He's a poker chip with feelings

"Now, Maggette's one of those where when he catches, it's probably going to go up--Not to a teammate." --Jon McGlocklin, 11/14/09

by Speedingtime on Jul 25, 2010 6:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hahah!

Thanks for making that distinction Speedingtime…He cares about Mike Redd though, not necessarliy the feelings of Milwaukee Bucks fans

"I want someone who will, you know, let me put it in or who [will] suck on it." – Donald Sterling

by Dow Jones on Jul 25, 2010 6:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

Who've been abused for sometime with a wild as heck baseball team,

 a TERRIBLE first round selection in Joe Alexander, and a wacky season that saw the Bucks drop a game to the Clippers. Ouch.

Every team drops a game to the Clippers, though. Even the eventual champs lost to them in a “home” game…

by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Jul 25, 2010 9:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah...

Every once and a while a team will let their guard down enough around the Clips to eek out a loss. But no team bringing their A-game should lose to that sorry squad…and I should know, I have a half-season package of tickets since I refuse to cheer for the Lakers

"I want someone who will, you know, let me put it in or who [will] suck on it." – Donald Sterling

by Dow Jones on Jul 26, 2010 4:17 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Rec'd

because as far as I’m concerned, the Lakers have enough bandwagon fans…

by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Jul 26, 2010 4:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

true that...

lived in Wisco most of my life and have seen very little great Bucks basketball, then I moved to LA 3 years ago and chose the Clips over the Fakers because I can’t stand that team or their fans. Go figure, I must be a glutton for punishment.

I will definately be at the Bucks at Clips game this season though and I’ll let everyone know how it goes!

"I want someone who will, you know, let me put it in or who [will] suck on it." – Donald Sterling

by Dow Jones on Jul 26, 2010 5:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

I was able to watch the Bucks-Suns game this past year...

Maybe I’ll be lucky to watch my favorite teams play this year, the Bucks and the Blazers.

On the other hand, the Bradley Center’s going to be a LONG journey from where I’ll be going to college, so…yeah.

by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Jul 26, 2010 11:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

My favorite teams too!

I went to some games when either team played in Seattle… but with no Sonics I can’t anymore. I’ll just be happy to watch the Huskies run the Pac10 in person and bucks/blazers on tv

by Ezrap97 on Jul 27, 2010 3:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

Talking about foreign correspondants

I would love a Turkish one showed around here. I like Ilyasova’ a lot and he seems to be one of the most debilitated by recent acquisitions. And it also would be fun too to have someone else writing about how Buck’s players are doing in next World Cup. Would you do that with Team USA, Frank?

by palomba on Jul 25, 2010 5:15 PM CDT reply actions  

I would if there were Bucks on Team USA :)

Alas, doesn’t look like it. I did do brief recaps of Ersan’s games at the last Euro Championships and will try to watch them in the WCs this fall if I have time.

I’m happy to leave the Argentina recaps to you :)

by Frank Madden on Jul 25, 2010 10:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

I am very happy that there are no Bucks on the US team

I’m not saying that there is a direct correlation, But the team plays so hard that they really need the offseason. Bogut is considered an injury prone player, and he plays constantly. Think of D-Wade and those couple of down years he had with injuries and fatigue after playing through the summer with the US team.

I am glad Jennings isn’t playing this summer, and for sure happy that Bogut can just rehab and not worry about playing…

Go Beer, I mean Bucks

by Take Back Our Bucks on Jul 26, 2010 8:40 AM CDT up reply actions  

Will Gallon makes the team?

I am becoming increasingly pessimistic about his chances. The acquisition of Brockman is one reason. The other is his uninspiring play in the Summer League, which I am convinced disappointed Skiles and the rest of the Bucks brass.

by tommyr on Jul 25, 2010 5:46 PM CDT reply actions  

Four Options I think with Tiny

1. Walk away (doubtful)
2. Sign him and keep him with the team (Possible but I think he would be inactive most nighta)
3. Sign him and send him to D-League to at least start the season( I know Frank says this is not a preferred method of the Bucks but I see this happening)
4. Trade his rights (for what?)

I'm taking my talents to.......The Golden Arches!

by CanadaBucks on Jul 25, 2010 5:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

A KFC bucket?

"Now, Maggette's one of those where when he catches, it's probably going to go up--Not to a teammate." --Jon McGlocklin, 11/14/09

by Speedingtime on Jul 25, 2010 6:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Like Buckethead?

We could have Buckethead as our 15th player?

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by CanadaBucks on Jul 25, 2010 6:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

That would work.

"Now, Maggette's one of those where when he catches, it's probably going to go up--Not to a teammate." --Jon McGlocklin, 11/14/09

by Speedingtime on Jul 25, 2010 6:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

He could provide some riffs

During the timeouts

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by CanadaBucks on Jul 25, 2010 6:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

And then we can here Skiles tell him to

“Keep the @#$&* music down and get back to the bench! And take that bucket off your head, you look silly.”

"Now, Maggette's one of those where when he catches, it's probably going to go up--Not to a teammate." --Jon McGlocklin, 11/14/09

by Speedingtime on Jul 25, 2010 6:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Bad Joke Alert

Buckethead would be great at “pick” and roll as well as “shredding” the defense

Sorry but I had to

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by CanadaBucks on Jul 25, 2010 6:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

Cue rimshot

Wait where is that thing…Oh wait, here it is.

"Now, Maggette's one of those where when he catches, it's probably going to go up--Not to a teammate." --Jon McGlocklin, 11/14/09

by Speedingtime on Jul 25, 2010 7:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

I read something on the Journal Sentinel a couple days ago

Where Tom Enlund made it sound increasingly likely that Gallon won’t make the team. Not exactly sure if that’s just his own speculation or what…

http://www.jsonline.com/sports/bucks/99156999.html

by ZV on Jul 25, 2010 8:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I read that too

And yay, they corrected the title from “Brockton”

"Now, Maggette's one of those where when he catches, it's probably going to go up--Not to a teammate." --Jon McGlocklin, 11/14/09

by Speedingtime on Jul 25, 2010 8:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

Any chance of a pic of Buckethead

In a Bucks uni?

I'm taking my talents to.......The Golden Arches!

by CanadaBucks on Jul 25, 2010 8:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Best I could do, Dave could do better. ;)

"Now, Maggette's one of those where when he catches, it's probably going to go up--Not to a teammate." --Jon McGlocklin, 11/14/09

by Speedingtime on Jul 25, 2010 9:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Lol not bad.....

This is what we’re getting for Tiny

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by CanadaBucks on Jul 25, 2010 9:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hey he's wearing Cons too

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by CanadaBucks on Jul 25, 2010 9:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

most importantly how many pieces in a KFC bucket...18?

the Bucks dont have to actually do anything with Tiny right? they retain his rights even if they dont sign him right away? just wondering or do they have to make a decision?

"That," says LeBron, "is for everyone that watches me play. They witness something special. You're all a witness."

by ILIKEBJ'S on Jul 25, 2010 9:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Good to see it's a BUCKethead :)

Speedy, not bad for, what, 15 mins work? Don’t worry about how I would do it better, just have fun with it and you’ll keep developing and improving your editing skills :)

Squad Six is to the Bucks what beer is to Milwaukee (or anywhere else for that matter)... the catalyst for you doing dumb things in public and not feeling self-conscious!

by Big Crazy Dave on Jul 26, 2010 1:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

It's contagious....

"Now, Maggette's one of those where when he catches, it's probably going to go up--Not to a teammate." --Jon McGlocklin, 11/14/09

by Speedingtime on Jul 25, 2010 10:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Most fun I've had in years...

…I would be disappointed if all this enthusiasm didn’t rub off ;)

Squad Six is to the Bucks what beer is to Milwaukee (or anywhere else for that matter)... the catalyst for you doing dumb things in public and not feeling self-conscious!

by Big Crazy Dave on Jul 26, 2010 1:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

if we dont sign him we still retain his rights correct?

i know with international players teams hold their rights for years… how does that work with college guys like Gallon…

by Superelkman on Jul 26, 2010 6:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

CDR is going crazy on twitter
I stay stealing moves from great players. Hahahahaha. I don’t care either.

https://twitter.com/cdouglasroberts/status/19521216092

My trainer (Jerry Powell) put me on a plan. Make 10,000 shots in a month. I started today. I swear to God nobody is doing this.
https://twitter.com/cdouglasroberts/status/19524932627
I’m about to show y’all some proof!!! This is why I say #IMBETTERTHANHIM. THIS IS UNHEARD OF RIGHT HERE! http://tweetphoto.com/34942787
https://twitter.com/cdouglasroberts/status/19525118146
Those were Long midrange pull ups & fade-a-ways @ the END of my workout.& I was pissed I missed that many shots. I’m not #%*•¥!@ around!!!!
https://twitter.com/cdouglasroberts/status/19527527023

Well, at least he’s practicing.

"Now, Maggette's one of those where when he catches, it's probably going to go up--Not to a teammate." --Jon McGlocklin, 11/14/09

by Speedingtime on Jul 25, 2010 6:31 PM CDT reply actions  

Good...

If he shoots 89% from the field this year, we’ll be alright…

"I want someone who will, you know, let me put it in or who [will] suck on it." – Donald Sterling

by Dow Jones on Jul 25, 2010 6:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Im not settling for 89%

I’d like some improvement

I'm taking my talents to.......The Golden Arches!

by CanadaBucks on Jul 25, 2010 6:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hopefully around 64 percent from threes.

"Now, Maggette's one of those where when he catches, it's probably going to go up--Not to a teammate." --Jon McGlocklin, 11/14/09

by Speedingtime on Jul 25, 2010 6:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's underachieving.

We need a 90% shooter from beyond the arc.

by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Jul 25, 2010 9:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hammond only #11?

What a joke. Granted this has been a very interesting offseason with the moves he made so far and Im sure not many people expected this roster, but give the man some credit. We had a gritty overachieving team last year and the same results this year would have been much tougher. The added depth and assets seemed like a must and shouldn’t hurt us in the long run.

by 808bucks on Jul 26, 2010 3:18 AM CDT reply actions  

totally agree, yeah top ten without a doubt

within a couple of seasons he has helped get the Bucks from the cellar of the division to a point where there are one of the top teams……….all with some savvy moves that flew under most people’s radar…..the major decision was hiring Skiles, the Bucks were a very poor defensive unit kinda a joke really in a couple of seasons they are one of the better defensive units

he addressed our main weakness in depth and scoring this summer and we didnt give up any major asset to do it, we added 3 draft picks to mix so thats pretty decent

"That," says LeBron, "is for everyone that watches me play. They witness something special. You're all a witness."

by ILIKEBJ'S on Jul 26, 2010 3:40 AM CDT up reply actions  

Who cares what Talking Heads think

about Hammonds and the Bucks. Hammonds and the Bucks have had a GREAT offseason. Outside of what Miami has done, I don’t think any other team has come close to the Bucks. They re-sign Salmons (a guy who proved to have a dramatic effect on the Bucks) for 1/3 the price of Joe Johnson…fantastic signing. Gooden may be the perfect PF complement to Bogut….and they get him signed quickly. Trading useless players (Gadz/Bell) for a very good 6th man (Maggette) was a very good move. As the snipit above noted, Maggette did what his coach asked him to do….he’ll figure out what Skiles expects from him and he’ll do his best to meet those expectations. No, he’s not a stud defender…but when you’re really a SF but being asked to defend PFs every night, that wears on you. Brockman was also a great target to add to the bench toughness. Larry Sanders looks like another great draftee given the draft position. I would have preferred a little better of a playmaking 2nd PG, but Dooling will play better defense than Ridnour ever thought about. With more scoring options now, I think it was okay to go with a more defensive, Dooling-type for back-up PG role. and CDR was cheap and worth the look see. He may work out, he may not…but for the price, definitely worth the risk. These were smart moves and, just as last year when Hammonds’ moves were questioned early…I suspect he’ll look better after the season starts.

by hunter11 on Jul 26, 2010 6:32 AM CDT reply actions  

Really no surprise Hammond finished 11th [even though he won EOY!!]

National writers just don’t Milw any credit. Period.

How else do you explain JH ranking 11th among his peers???

The guy won EOY and has made excellent moves so far this off-season, IMO.

Maybe if Milw knocks the Heat out of the playoffs,JH and the Bucks will finally get SOME respect.

by victor s on Jul 26, 2010 10:31 AM CDT reply actions  

They're clueless

And have their own irrelevent, un-substantiated criteria.

by tommyr on Jul 26, 2010 11:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

Correct

Or when Wade is going to get injured. Or what happens when two of them are out of the lineup? I get the Miami selection; read John Hollinger’s take on ESPN. He lists the best 4 or 5 off-seasons and Milwaukee is one of them.

by tommyr on Jul 26, 2010 11:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

I mean, look at the guys.

Bosh could put up 30 PPG. LBJ could put up 30 PPG. And D-Wade could certainly put up 30 PPG.

It won’t matter at all if Miami gives up 110 PPG because none of them are good defenders…

by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Jul 26, 2010 11:35 AM CDT up reply actions  

I thought three kings was Clooney, Wahlberg & Cube

"That," says LeBron, "is for everyone that watches me play. They witness something special. You're all a witness."

by ILIKEBJ'S on Jul 26, 2010 11:34 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

not sure about Bosh, since he was raptorfied

but Wade and LBJ are pretty good defenders right? LBJ is pretty decent and Cleveland was a very good defensive unit under Mike Brown, Wade has always been up there in the blocks, not that that means your a great defender, but still he aint bad

Haslem is a rugged guy, still I get the point that they are weak outside that

"That," says LeBron, "is for everyone that watches me play. They witness something special. You're all a witness."

by ILIKEBJ'S on Jul 26, 2010 11:40 AM CDT up reply actions  

LBJ's D is overrated.

He might have a ton of blocked shots, but many of those would be fouls without favorable officiating…

Mbah a Moute would get called for a foul on a shot James blocked. It’s just sad.

by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Jul 26, 2010 11:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

True...

And you raise a GREAT question OSH: how will officials call games for the Super Heat? Surely they can’t give all 3 the All-Star foul discount or the entire game would be played at the line. And if they scale back on calls, thats a HUGE part of D-Wades game; flying into the paint and getting calls.

Heck, thats how Wade won his title against the Mavs. Should be really interesting to see if the NBA officials will be more fair or if they will still make all the Star calls. If so, it’ll be VERY boring watching the Heat shoot FT’s all day

"I want someone who will, you know, let me put it in or who [will] suck on it." – Donald Sterling

by Dow Jones on Jul 26, 2010 5:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

Kobe can and will play games at the line...

So the Heat are doomed should they face the Lakers in the Finals…

by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Jul 27, 2010 3:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Haha!

That was the ‘other’ option I had when I did The Three Amigos Pic :)

Squad Six is to the Bucks what beer is to Milwaukee (or anywhere else for that matter)... the catalyst for you doing dumb things in public and not feeling self-conscious!

by Big Crazy Dave on Jul 27, 2010 1:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

LeBron is.

"Now, Maggette's one of those where when he catches, it's probably going to go up--Not to a teammate." --Jon McGlocklin, 11/14/09

by Speedingtime on Jul 26, 2010 12:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Read above comment...

But I am biased. I’ve no respect for LBJ’s D.

by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Jul 26, 2010 12:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I just read that.

I guess you could say he just gets that reputation because he’s a star.

Either way, I have no respect for LeBron period ;)

"Now, Maggette's one of those where when he catches, it's probably going to go up--Not to a teammate." --Jon McGlocklin, 11/14/09

by Speedingtime on Jul 26, 2010 12:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

He cost himself an entire fanbase...

But, as they say…

An NBA FINALS, AN NBA FINALS! My Kingdom For An NBA Finals!

by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Jul 26, 2010 1:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

im so rooting for them to get popped in the 2nd round

"That," says LeBron, "is for everyone that watches me play. They witness something special. You're all a witness."

by ILIKEBJ'S on Jul 26, 2010 1:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

How about they don't make it to the first round? ;)

"Now, Maggette's one of those where when he catches, it's probably going to go up--Not to a teammate." --Jon McGlocklin, 11/14/09

by Speedingtime on Jul 26, 2010 1:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

how about they pounded by Boston just like Cleveland...that'll do me

"That," says LeBron, "is for everyone that watches me play. They witness something special. You're all a witness."

by ILIKEBJ'S on Jul 26, 2010 1:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

How about they lose to Milwaukee...

in the 2nd round !!!! I know, I’m dreaming but hey…stranger things have happened

"I want someone who will, you know, let me put it in or who [will] suck on it." – Donald Sterling

by Dow Jones on Jul 26, 2010 5:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

The 8th seeded Knicks DID beat a top seeded Miami team in the first round

Which isn’t so much a New York win as a Miami EPIC FAILURE on par with trading Antawn Jamison for NOTHING… Nice move, Whizzards…

by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Jul 26, 2010 11:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

Why are you guys hating on a writer because of his opinion?

This isn’t even a national writer, this is a writer for the Wizards blog on SBNation, THE SITE THAT THIS BLOG IS A PART OF. Look, I thought His rank was fair for the GM of a team that’s had one winning season so far. We can prove these guys wrong during the season.

"Now, Maggette's one of those where when he catches, it's probably going to go up--Not to a teammate." --Jon McGlocklin, 11/14/09

by Speedingtime on Jul 26, 2010 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

Okay, scratch the "his opinion" part of the subject line ;)

"Now, Maggette's one of those where when he catches, it's probably going to go up--Not to a teammate." --Jon McGlocklin, 11/14/09

by Speedingtime on Jul 26, 2010 1:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Three Clowns is open if they want it.....Miami can trademark it

"That," says LeBron, "is for everyone that watches me play. They witness something special. You're all a witness."

by ILIKEBJ'S on Jul 26, 2010 11:42 AM CDT reply actions  

Wow.
The meeting went well. It was great to get an opportunity to sit down with Coach Williams, President Weber and our new General Manager Dell Demps. I expressed my desire to win and I like what they said about the direction that they want to take the team. I have been a Hornet my entire career and I hope to represent the city of New Orleans and state of Louisiana for many years to come.

http://twitter.com/Oneandonlycp3/status/19590187206

I take back everything I said about Paul.

"Now, Maggette's one of those where when he catches, it's probably going to go up--Not to a teammate." --Jon McGlocklin, 11/14/09

by Speedingtime on Jul 26, 2010 12:45 PM CDT reply actions  

It was a good "make-up" statement

He unlike Lebron, can undo his screw ups still. Nice catch b4 he caught the bad guy rep like Lebron.

by FearTheDeer on Jul 26, 2010 12:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yup.

He saved his image big time.

"Now, Maggette's one of those where when he catches, it's probably going to go up--Not to a teammate." --Jon McGlocklin, 11/14/09

by Speedingtime on Jul 26, 2010 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

Chris Paul > LBJ?

In terms of press, not playing ability or points per game…

by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Jul 26, 2010 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

I just read an article over on CBS Sports

that said Paul’s latest statement is just a smoke-screen in an attempt to keep his trade value up. In other words, the Hornets convinced him that it’s better for everyone to act happy, and they’ll try to pull some strings to get him out of there.

by ZV on Jul 26, 2010 9:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

told you he was a good kid

"That," says LeBron, "is for everyone that watches me play. They witness something special. You're all a witness."

by ILIKEBJ'S on Jul 26, 2010 1:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

I give, I give :)

Well, except for this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9F3tptzEWmM

"Now, Maggette's one of those where when he catches, it's probably going to go up--Not to a teammate." --Jon McGlocklin, 11/14/09

by Speedingtime on Jul 26, 2010 1:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

you were right it was the damned influence of LBJ's managemet crew

"That," says LeBron, "is for everyone that watches me play. They witness something special. You're all a witness."

by ILIKEBJ'S on Jul 26, 2010 1:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

The NBA should ban LeBron from talking to other NBA players

"Now, Maggette's one of those where when he catches, it's probably going to go up--Not to a teammate." --Jon McGlocklin, 11/14/09

by Speedingtime on Jul 26, 2010 1:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

even his team mates ;)

"That," says LeBron, "is for everyone that watches me play. They witness something special. You're all a witness."

by ILIKEBJ'S on Jul 26, 2010 1:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

Haha would like to see that team's chemistry

"Now, Maggette's one of those where when he catches, it's probably going to go up--Not to a teammate." --Jon McGlocklin, 11/14/09

by Speedingtime on Jul 26, 2010 1:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

They have a team?

I thought they planned to put just the Three Kings on the floor and have no bench.

They’re screwed if someone fouls out…

by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Jul 26, 2010 1:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Im interested to see how Bosh reacts when he gets with reality that he is whipped

"That," says LeBron, "is for everyone that watches me play. They witness something special. You're all a witness."

by ILIKEBJ'S on Jul 26, 2010 1:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

actually what is their bench looking like?

Miller, Arroyo, Z, Howard, Jones, Magloire? thats the dogs breakfast for sure

"That," says LeBron, "is for everyone that watches me play. They witness something special. You're all a witness."

by ILIKEBJ'S on Jul 26, 2010 1:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Isn't Z their starting center?!

Unless haslem is going to play C…

"Now, Maggette's one of those where when he catches, it's probably going to go up--Not to a teammate." --Jon McGlocklin, 11/14/09

by Speedingtime on Jul 26, 2010 1:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

yeah I was wondering.....I went with Haslem because he still has game ;)

Haslem, Bosh, LBJ, Wade, Chalmers…half decent I suppose :)

"That," says LeBron, "is for everyone that watches me play. They witness something special. You're all a witness."

by ILIKEBJ'S on Jul 26, 2010 1:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

he doesnt have to do anything just suit up and stand in a corner

"That," says LeBron, "is for everyone that watches me play. They witness something special. You're all a witness."

by ILIKEBJ'S on Jul 26, 2010 1:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'd actually...

take Chalmers over Baron Davis at this point. BD is literally just collecting a check while he works on his film career.

We call him The Disgrace…

"I want someone who will, you know, let me put it in or who [will] suck on it." – Donald Sterling

by Dow Jones on Jul 26, 2010 6:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

Baron was a bad-ass, but now..... not so much.

He was fun to watch back in the day – and was always a bit under-rated, IMO.

by victor s on Jul 26, 2010 6:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

Now...

he is just going throught the motions…although maybe VDN can get something out of him…we shall see

"I want someone who will, you know, let me put it in or who [will] suck on it." – Donald Sterling

by Dow Jones on Jul 26, 2010 9:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Maybe he just needs another atmosphere...

Imagine living in the shadow of Derek Fisher for most of your career…

I’m not talking Kobe. I’m talking Derek Fisher.

Yuck.

by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Jul 26, 2010 11:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

Okey Dokey
ignore spin out of this Hornets-Chris Paul meeting. He wants out. They don’t want to trade him. Nothing’s changed, except there’s a new GM.
All semantics, but Chris Paul will never directly demand a trade. There’s no need; no use. With two years left on deal, he has no leverage.
Ultimately, a big question for Chris Paul is this: Does he want out of New Orleans as badly as his new business associates want him out?

http://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA/status/19591449455
http://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA/status/19591831512
http://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA/status/19592189656

Hmm….

"Now, Maggette's one of those where when he catches, it's probably going to go up--Not to a teammate." --Jon McGlocklin, 11/14/09

by Speedingtime on Jul 26, 2010 1:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

I actually mentioned somewhere earlier in a fan post last month I think that actually it made the most sense for NO to trade Paul

"That," says LeBron, "is for everyone that watches me play. They witness something special. You're all a witness."

by ILIKEBJ'S on Jul 26, 2010 1:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

For collison to get more minutes?

"Now, Maggette's one of those where when he catches, it's probably going to go up--Not to a teammate." --Jon McGlocklin, 11/14/09

by Speedingtime on Jul 26, 2010 1:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

well yeah so they can break up a team that isnt going anywhere, start building on the cheap with Collison & Thornton

get some good young talent/draft picks in return and go from there, at the moment apart from David West the support cast means they will struggle in the West I guess, they are stuck with Peja & Posey contracts so they cant do anything…….kinda stuck in a cycle of being decent but not great

"That," says LeBron, "is for everyone that watches me play. They witness something special. You're all a witness."

by ILIKEBJ'S on Jul 26, 2010 1:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well hopefully Demps is good at finding good deals and signings

Because if they don’t trade Paul that’s how they’re going to have to build their team. But Demps appears to be more of a draft/young player specialist, so I don’t see that happening. But he learned from one of the best (R.C Buford)

"Now, Maggette's one of those where when he catches, it's probably going to go up--Not to a teammate." --Jon McGlocklin, 11/14/09

by Speedingtime on Jul 26, 2010 1:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

hmm yeah its hard, how could you be the guy to trade Chris Paul......

will be interesting usually once the guy doesnt want to be there it doesnt end well, still if Paul and West are fit, and they can fit Collison and Thornton, Okafor rebounds and defends, Peja scores a bit……still they look way to thin

"That," says LeBron, "is for everyone that watches me play. They witness something special. You're all a witness."

by ILIKEBJ'S on Jul 26, 2010 1:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

Trading CP3

If you know that the guy is going to leave via Free Agency you trade him. Cleveland wishes Lebron would have gave the indications that CP3 is giving so they could have traded Lebron for something other than a fairly worthless trade exception.

It’s the same situation as the Brewers are in with Prince Fielder. If you can’t re-sign him, trade him for something. Bit different situation tho. I don’t look down on Prince’s character because the Brewers won’t pay him what he wants.

Marcus Thornton is going to have a nice pay day next year if he keeps it up tho, he might not be so cheap.

by FearTheDeer on Jul 26, 2010 2:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

off the subject but I was just watching Iron Eagle on cable....

and the kid plugged a jack in his car radio so he could connect a walkman to it….surreal haha

"That," says LeBron, "is for everyone that watches me play. They witness something special. You're all a witness."

by ILIKEBJ'S on Jul 26, 2010 1:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

Lol nice

"Now, Maggette's one of those where when he catches, it's probably going to go up--Not to a teammate." --Jon McGlocklin, 11/14/09

by Speedingtime on Jul 26, 2010 1:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

im just waiting for the scene with the race between a dirt bike and a cessna light plane in a canyon

enough said

"That," says LeBron, "is for everyone that watches me play. They witness something special. You're all a witness."

by ILIKEBJ'S on Jul 26, 2010 1:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Those other guys won't get any touches .,.

Only chances of rebound-putbacks from the Big Three.

by tommyr on Jul 26, 2010 1:27 PM CDT reply actions  

I chuckled a bit when I saw thie title of this article

http://reelreports.com/milwaukee-fishing-salmon-reports-july-26th-2010-13652.html

"Now, Maggette's one of those where when he catches, it's probably going to go up--Not to a teammate." --Jon McGlocklin, 11/14/09

by Speedingtime on Jul 26, 2010 4:13 PM CDT reply actions  

This is totally off topic but I am watching Brewers pre-game and...

[rant on]

who the fuck is this Deuce kid? wtf… this kid sucks… i know he is just a kid but why is this the kid that they are letting write the Brewers kids blog… he can’t barely stop stuttering…

[rant off]

by Superelkman on Jul 26, 2010 6:45 PM CDT reply actions  

Equal Opportunity Employer?

And is there a politically correct term for stutter? Verbally impaired?

I'm taking my talents to.......The Golden Arches!

by CanadaBucks on Jul 26, 2010 7:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

Actually

Orally challenged would be better IMHO

I'm taking my talents to.......The Golden Arches!

by CanadaBucks on Jul 26, 2010 7:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

Syllabically inventive

Maybe he should play first base instead. That is, he should lie out there and we can step on him when we get a hit.

by TheJay on Jul 26, 2010 7:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Good one +1

I'm taking my talents to.......The Golden Arches!

by CanadaBucks on Jul 26, 2010 7:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Next we can ostracize kids with depression...

"Now, Maggette's one of those where when he catches, it's probably going to go up--Not to a teammate." --Jon McGlocklin, 11/14/09

by Speedingtime on Jul 26, 2010 7:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

;)

"Now, Maggette's one of those where when he catches, it's probably going to go up--Not to a teammate." --Jon McGlocklin, 11/14/09

by Speedingtime on Jul 26, 2010 7:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

I could say...

WTF do kids have to be depressed about anyway…wait til you’re older and have real problems you’ll see..

But I won’t

I'm taking my talents to.......The Golden Arches!

by CanadaBucks on Jul 26, 2010 7:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Lol

I could say something about that… But I won’t.

"Now, Maggette's one of those where when he catches, it's probably going to go up--Not to a teammate." --Jon McGlocklin, 11/14/09

by Speedingtime on Jul 26, 2010 8:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Good

Don’t take me seriously by any means

I'm taking my talents to.......The Golden Arches!

by CanadaBucks on Jul 26, 2010 8:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

Trust me

I tell the same thing to people

"Now, Maggette's one of those where when he catches, it's probably going to go up--Not to a teammate." --Jon McGlocklin, 11/14/09

by Speedingtime on Jul 26, 2010 8:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

So the Wolves just got two more possible PG's for Sessions and Hollins...
Cleveland trades Delonte West and Sebastian Telfair to Minnesota for Ramon Sessions, Ryan Hollins and a draft pick, a source told Y! Sports

First thought: I wanted to point and laugh at Kahn for improving his little man collection, but apparently they might waive West and trade Telfair Way to ruin our fun, Kahn.

"Now, Maggette's one of those where when he catches, it's probably going to go up--Not to a teammate." --Jon McGlocklin, 11/14/09

by Speedingtime on Jul 26, 2010 8:23 PM CDT reply actions  

Nice deal for the Cavs IMO

I'm taking my talents to.......The Golden Arches!

by CanadaBucks on Jul 26, 2010 8:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed.

Mo and Sessions are reunited. I don’t really see the point of this for Minnesota though. Even if they trade Telfair, what’s the best they’re getting in return?

I dunno, I think the Wolves could have gotten more for Sessions. Or not.

"Now, Maggette's one of those where when he catches, it's probably going to go up--Not to a teammate." --Jon McGlocklin, 11/14/09

by Speedingtime on Jul 26, 2010 8:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

Last year killed his trade value?

I'm taking my talents to.......The Golden Arches!

by CanadaBucks on Jul 26, 2010 8:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

Probably.

"Now, Maggette's one of those where when he catches, it's probably going to go up--Not to a teammate." --Jon McGlocklin, 11/14/09

by Speedingtime on Jul 26, 2010 8:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

John Hollinger
If they waive West, T’wolves just traded last year’s two free agent signings for a No. 3 point guard. Remind me again what the plan is here?

"Now, Maggette's one of those where when he catches, it's probably going to go up--Not to a teammate." --Jon McGlocklin, 11/14/09

by Speedingtime on Jul 26, 2010 8:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

And by trading Telfair you wouldn't even get

Buckethead

I'm taking my talents to.......The Golden Arches!

by CanadaBucks on Jul 26, 2010 8:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

Buckethead's trade value has dropped drastically though

"Now, Maggette's one of those where when he catches, it's probably going to go up--Not to a teammate." --Jon McGlocklin, 11/14/09

by Speedingtime on Jul 26, 2010 8:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

But the T-Wolves are scary bad

Who is going to score for them?

I'm taking my talents to.......The Golden Arches!

by CanadaBucks on Jul 26, 2010 8:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

Roster

Ridnour/Flynn
Brewer/Ellington
Johnson/Webster
Love/Beasley
Milicic/Koufos

Uhh… That’s a good question. Is Johnson going to be one of the top rookies this year?

"Now, Maggette's one of those where when he catches, it's probably going to go up--Not to a teammate." --Jon McGlocklin, 11/14/09

by Speedingtime on Jul 26, 2010 8:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

+1

"Now, Maggette's one of those where when he catches, it's probably going to go up--Not to a teammate." --Jon McGlocklin, 11/14/09

by Speedingtime on Jul 26, 2010 8:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

Good career move Luke!

I'm taking my talents to.......The Golden Arches!

by CanadaBucks on Jul 26, 2010 8:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hey, you can score 23 PPG on the Timberwolves!

Unfortunately, they’ll still be the Minnesota Timberwolves at the end of the day. They’ll steal a game from the Jazz every now and then, but they won’t go anywhere until they plead for KG to come back to them… And KG’ll reject them for his inifinitely more successful Boston team…

by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Jul 26, 2010 11:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

the TWolves are planning on shutting out teams

"That," says LeBron, "is for everyone that watches me play. They witness something special. You're all a witness."

by ILIKEBJ'S on Jul 27, 2010 12:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah...

…themselves!!!!

Squad Six is to the Bucks what beer is to Milwaukee (or anywhere else for that matter)... the catalyst for you doing dumb things in public and not feeling self-conscious!

by Big Crazy Dave on Jul 27, 2010 1:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

And steal the remaining talent on heir roster

"Now, Maggette's one of those where when he catches, it's probably going to go up--Not to a teammate." --Jon McGlocklin, 11/14/09

by Speedingtime on Jul 26, 2010 9:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

Might get more for Dooling

I'm taking my talents to.......The Golden Arches!

by CanadaBucks on Jul 26, 2010 9:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

Lol another PF?

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by CanadaBucks on Jul 26, 2010 9:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'd still do it...

and try to flip Ersan. Bogut and Love would be a sick starting frontcourt!

"I want someone who will, you know, let me put it in or who [will] suck on it." – Donald Sterling

by Dow Jones on Jul 26, 2010 9:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

Bogut & Love would be scary!!

We’d be like the Bibby/Weber – era Kings…. but w/ defense : )

Imagine how good Love would be on a functional team that took advantage of his unique talents!! Poor guy….

by victor s on Jul 26, 2010 9:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hopefully he won't stab the hearts out of his hometown like Love...

Who turned down local universities who would have EATEN OUT OF HIS HAND to go to UCLA. WTF?

It’s not like John Wooden was coaching at UCLA, either.

Fortunately, karma promptly stabbed Kevin Love in the back and sent him to toil for the Minnesota Timberwolves…

by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Jul 26, 2010 11:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

Who rules the best defenses? Maggette and Brockman

http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=7063

Our incoming forwards look legit. Look at this post at basketball-reference.com. Paine rated players based on their performance against elite defenses and Corey Maggette and Jon Brockman are near the top. Among players who shot the ball more than 23% of the time, Maggette is ranked fifth, while Brockman is second among players with <18%Pos.

On the flip side Brandon Jennings is terrible against good and bad offenses while using a ghastly 26.5 %Pos. For perspective; against bad defenses, only Kevin Durant, Kobe Bryant, Dwayne Wade and LeJudas shot it more. In game, that translates to Young Buck jacking an ill advised three or long jumper with nine on the shot clock with Bogut chilling unguarded at the rim against the Clippers.

Sure we’ll probably win that game, but I hope this is a case of a rookie figuring things out and not a case of another point with skills but not the size to fully utilize them. If he learns how to dish it (I think Sanders will encourage him in this regard, we’ll have our re-stocked arsenal of finishers to crush the competition.

by MadTown Hoops on Jul 26, 2010 9:03 PM CDT reply actions  

Was it Kobe's rookie year

When he took the game tying/winning shot in game 7 of a playoff series and missed? That turned out ok for the Lakers I think.

I'm taking my talents to.......The Golden Arches!

by CanadaBucks on Jul 26, 2010 9:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oh yeah, I’m not especially worried. Though I don’t really know the math used well enough to say this for sure, I’d imagine a lot of players steadily improve as they get to know defenses better. Quite a few young, promising players featured prominently at the bottom of the list.

by MadTown Hoops on Jul 27, 2010 3:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

Hollinger wrote a great piece on the Bucks off-season moves - I read it on nbadraft.net

I for one, couldn’t be happier with his moves.

I know some are wondering about the log jam at PF, but I personally think of Gooden as Boguts insurance policy [knock on wood] – and even if DG starts at PF, it looks like he’ll see a lot of his mpg at C.

Gooden can and has been a decent C, and Milw can still roll out several good PFs if DG has to fill in for Bogut [knock on wood]

by victor s on Jul 26, 2010 9:13 PM CDT reply actions  

As a member of the blog police

I have to inform you that you can only knock on wood once in each post.

I'm taking my talents to.......The Golden Arches!

by CanadaBucks on Jul 26, 2010 9:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

And now the comedy begins
Wolves Jonny Flynn expected to be out 3-4 months after hip surgery next week, NBA sources tell Y! Sports. Missed summer league with injury.

http://twitter.com/SpearsNBAYahoo/status/19621116060

Words cannot describe the hilarity of the Wolves situation right now. Will they think twice about waving Delonte?

"Now, Maggette's one of those where when he catches, it's probably going to go up--Not to a teammate." --Jon McGlocklin, 11/14/09

by Speedingtime on Jul 26, 2010 9:25 PM CDT reply actions  

My thoughts as well

Let’s recap Kahn’s wonderful offseason so far, shall we?:

-Drafted Wesley Johnson over Cousins
-Traded Gomes and Babbit for Webster (Wtf?)
-Signed Darko to a 4 year 20 mil contract
-Traded a 2nd round pick for Beasley (Not bad at all)
-Traded Al Jefferson for a bag of potato chips
-Traded their last year offseason prize (Sessions) for cap relief (even though their roster doesn’t need any) in West and Telfair despite knowing that Flynn was injured and they might need Sessions.

They must be tanking. Only explanation.

"Now, Maggette's one of those where when he catches, it's probably going to go up--Not to a teammate." --Jon McGlocklin, 11/14/09

by Speedingtime on Jul 26, 2010 9:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

It'll be fun when the Bucks play them this year

"Now, Maggette's one of those where when he catches, it's probably going to go up--Not to a teammate." --Jon McGlocklin, 11/14/09

by Speedingtime on Jul 26, 2010 9:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oh yeah, and they traded a draft pick along with Sessions. Disturbing.

"Now, Maggette's one of those where when he catches, it's probably going to go up--Not to a teammate." --Jon McGlocklin, 11/14/09

by Speedingtime on Jul 26, 2010 9:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

And there were GMs ranked

Lower than Kahn.

I'm taking my talents to.......The Golden Arches!

by CanadaBucks on Jul 26, 2010 9:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

I know Barnes is supposed to be great... blah blah blah

But is he worth tanking for? Just curious.

If Barnes has HOF talent, I’d tank if I was Kahn.

by victor s on Jul 26, 2010 10:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

The trade for Webster was evil...

because the Blazers utterly betrayed Martell, then waived Ryan Gomes anyway. WTF? Wasn’t the point to build depth, not send it packing? Guess the Blazers took a tip from last year’s Whizzards.

It doesn’t help Portland’s case that I like Martell, either…

by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Jul 26, 2010 11:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Had to move Martell to get Wes Matthews

As much as I love Martell, it was a smart move. Babbit looked great in summer league and will be awesome in a couple years, plus Wes is Martell with defense.

by Ezrap97 on Jul 27, 2010 3:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

just like Kahn had to draft Flynn and Rubio, and sign Sessions to land Ridnour

he’s like Nash without the passing skills

"That," says LeBron, "is for everyone that watches me play. They witness something special. You're all a witness."

by ILIKEBJ'S on Jul 27, 2010 3:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nothing like that actually...

But I do see the similarities between luke and steve

by Ezrap97 on Jul 29, 2010 4:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

:) yes nothing like it really.....just a personal hobby of mine at the moment to deride David Kahn...

"That," says LeBron, "is for everyone that watches me play. They witness something special. You're all a witness."

by ILIKEBJ'S on Jul 29, 2010 4:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

He actually did shoot as well as Nash for a lot of the year

Passing’s another story though…

"Now, Maggette's one of those where when he catches, it's probably going to go up--Not to a teammate." --Jon McGlocklin, 11/14/09

by Speedingtime on Jul 29, 2010 5:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wes made a TON of hustle plays last season.

Bucks could REALLY have used him in the early going, when they lost to the terrible Pistons.

That game just makes me mad. There was nothing left on the Pistons at that point. LESS THAN NOTHING. Pathetic.

by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Jul 27, 2010 4:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ridnour is now a shoe-in to be the starter : )

Will they still buy out D West? They might need him. Bahahahahahahahaha!!

by victor s on Jul 26, 2010 9:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

At this point, I'd trade anyone on the Bucks roster for Minnys upcoming first rounder, except for BJ & Bogut

They HAVE to be the favorite for the #1 pick in the draft…… worst case scenario, a top 5 pick.

Do they even own their upcoming first rounder, or did Kahn already deal if for a 5th PG???

by victor s on Jul 26, 2010 9:59 PM CDT reply actions  

They're waiting for Rubio to come to his senses...

which will likely be that the “hot” Ricky Rubio would look VERY good in a Lakers jersey…

Until then, their PG situation is a nightmare. Scratch that, their entire ROSTER is a nightmare. They needed big men a year ago and they drafted three point guards in the first round, only one of which wound up on the team. Sm@rt, Kahn. Very sm@rt.

(OBrienSchofieldIsMyHero beings resume, stating emphatically that he could be a MUCH better GM than David Kahn)

by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Jul 26, 2010 11:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

I would hope so.

Maybe 4-5 min pg at the point another 4-5 min at the 2. It basically makes him 3rd string PG & SG.

Squad Six is to the Bucks what beer is to Milwaukee (or anywhere else for that matter)... the catalyst for you doing dumb things in public and not feeling self-conscious!

by Big Crazy Dave on Jul 27, 2010 1:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

Think about Ivey

Garbage time, injuries and foul trouble time. That’s when you need a 3rd point, it’s not a big deal.

I'm taking my talents to.......The Golden Arches!

by CanadaBucks on Jul 27, 2010 9:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

We'll miss you, Royal...

"Now, Maggette's one of those where when he catches, it's probably going to go up--Not to a teammate." --Jon McGlocklin, 11/14/09

by Speedingtime on Jul 27, 2010 9:38 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'm still not over Roko leaving

Maybe he should play first base instead. That is, he should lie out there and we can step on him when we get a hit.

by TheJay on Jul 27, 2010 12:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

I feel the same about Anthony Goldwire

"That," says LeBron, "is for everyone that watches me play. They witness something special. You're all a witness."

by ILIKEBJ'S on Jul 27, 2010 1:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Reece Gaines always had a spot in my heart

"Now, Maggette's one of those where when he catches, it's probably going to go up--Not to a teammate." --Jon McGlocklin, 11/14/09

by Speedingtime on Jul 27, 2010 2:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

That about sums it up for 3rd PGs

You can see the value they have as you all speak so glowingly of them.

I'm taking my talents to.......The Golden Arches!

by CanadaBucks on Jul 27, 2010 3:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Travis Diener you were so nearly there

"That," says LeBron, "is for everyone that watches me play. They witness something special. You're all a witness."

by ILIKEBJ'S on Jul 27, 2010 3:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Czech yourself

That kind of attachment can be dangerous.

Maybe he should play first base instead. That is, he should lie out there and we can step on him when we get a hit.

by TheJay on Jul 28, 2010 8:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

Did everyone catch Colangelo

Ripping Bosh in the BDL article? He called him out big time…..truthfully someone should do that to Brian for some of the moves he made but I thought it was pretty good as LBJ seems to big the one of the three taking the most flak.

I'm taking my talents to.......The Golden Arches!

by CanadaBucks on Jul 27, 2010 3:07 PM CDT reply actions  

Chris puts the Bosh in Bosch apparently

"That," says LeBron, "is for everyone that watches me play. They witness something special. You're all a witness."

by ILIKEBJ'S on Jul 27, 2010 3:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

So he's won two EOY awards and he's ranked as a bad GM?

"Now, Maggette's one of those where when he catches, it's probably going to go up--Not to a teammate." --Jon McGlocklin, 11/14/09

by Speedingtime on Jul 27, 2010 3:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Has he really gone that downhill since 2007?

"Now, Maggette's one of those where when he catches, it's probably going to go up--Not to a teammate." --Jon McGlocklin, 11/14/09

by Speedingtime on Jul 27, 2010 3:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

weeellllll.....he had free reign to put a team together and it didnt work out in the end

he got to pick his coach as well after he sent Sam Mitchell off…..so he cant really blame anyone else when he was running the show oh wait he just did….thats some mighty fine buck passing after Bosh jumped ship

not that I find Bosh particularly endearing with his third wheel act

"That," says LeBron, "is for everyone that watches me play. They witness something special. You're all a witness."

by ILIKEBJ'S on Jul 27, 2010 3:25 PM CDT reply actions  

I think it's six of one half dozen of the other

I think what Colangelo says about the end of the year in regard to Bosh is true. But Colangelo hasn’t been great and having Jay Triano as coach makes me think puppet.

I'm taking my talents to.......The Golden Arches!

by CanadaBucks on Jul 27, 2010 3:34 PM CDT reply actions  

yeah few things didnt pan out...

picking Triano as coach hasnt been a good move, Calderon hasnt panned out as the sole starting pg, but at the time most people wanted TJ out and the reigns handed over to Calderon, and the Bargnani pick hasnt really stood the test…………..then there were some desperation hail mary’s that had panic all over them…..Jarret Jack signing, contract for Turkoglu and then got a bit jumpy locking in Amir Johnson

"That," says LeBron, "is for everyone that watches me play. They witness something special. You're all a witness."

by ILIKEBJ'S on Jul 27, 2010 3:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

I liked Mitchell as Head Coach

I always thought though that Triano was bought in as an assistant as a token Canadian, figured when he got the interim gig it would be short term……….Wrong………

I'm taking my talents to.......The Golden Arches!

by CanadaBucks on Jul 27, 2010 4:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wasn't Mitchell CoTY only a year or two before he was booted?

Squad Six is to the Bucks what beer is to Milwaukee (or anywhere else for that matter)... the catalyst for you doing dumb things in public and not feeling self-conscious!

by Big Crazy Dave on Jul 28, 2010 1:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

yeah I think the season before.....the raptors were pretty much a rabble and he got them organised and disciplined

but from what I can recall he never had a great rapport with his players? CanandaBucks can clue us in I imagine on the details….

and then when Colangelo came in he pretty much wanted his own coach but Mitchell had that CoTY behind him so he couldnt fire him straight away

"That," says LeBron, "is for everyone that watches me play. They witness something special. You're all a witness."

by ILIKEBJ'S on Jul 28, 2010 3:01 AM CDT up reply actions  

Shame. Always though Sam was a good coach.

Hate to see good guys shafted :(

Squad Six is to the Bucks what beer is to Milwaukee (or anywhere else for that matter)... the catalyst for you doing dumb things in public and not feeling self-conscious!

by Big Crazy Dave on Jul 28, 2010 4:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

That reminds me of when the Georgia Bulldogs wanted to fire their coach

But he managed to win the conference tournament and make it to the NCAA tourney so they couldn’t.

Maybe he should play first base instead. That is, he should lie out there and we can step on him when we get a hit.

by TheJay on Jul 28, 2010 8:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

I don't know the real story

But that year expectations were pretty high and the Raps went 3-0 out of the gate I remember, had a couple bad losses and Sam got fired at 8-9. I think it was 2 things, Colangelo wanted his own guy and he was trying to focus the blame on Mitchell. Always thought Sam was a fair guy, told it like it was and didn’t hold any punches, sometimes though that is frowned upon. Any other team I think Triano would have been long gone.

I'm taking my talents to.......The Golden Arches!

by CanadaBucks on Jul 28, 2010 10:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

Why the heck are people so trigger happy?

I mean, at 8-9, there’s still every chance your team can make the playoffs…

It’s only when you start out 0-20 that you should get canned…

by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Jul 28, 2010 2:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

See BJs reply

He wasn’t what Colangelo wanted I guess

I'm taking my talents to.......The Golden Arches!

by CanadaBucks on Jul 28, 2010 3:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

thats what you call getting the shaft.....Colangelo had it in for him from day 1 pretty much

"That," says LeBron, "is for everyone that watches me play. They witness something special. You're all a witness."

by ILIKEBJ'S on Jul 28, 2010 2:33 PM CDT reply actions  

irrational thought process but I think he had it in mind to install Iavaroni who was a assistant at Phoenix at that time

"That," says LeBron, "is for everyone that watches me play. They witness something special. You're all a witness."

by ILIKEBJ'S on Jul 28, 2010 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

the timing just never matched

Mitchell still had some burn from doing a good job the past couple of seasons, and by the time he got around to sending him off, Iavaroni was flaming out in the last days of the Pau Gasol era in Memphis…

"That," says LeBron, "is for everyone that watches me play. They witness something special. You're all a witness."

by ILIKEBJ'S on Jul 28, 2010 3:35 PM CDT up reply actions  


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