UPDATED: 2010 Bucks Free Agency: the backup PG position
by everyoneruns on Jul 4, 2010 12:51 PM CDT
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Brewhoopers: After the verbal commitment to sign from John Salmons and Drew Gooden, the Bucks roster is close to solidified. Starting lineups and who will be considered 11th/12th man aside, the Bucks are a backup point guard away. Looking around the league, here's a look at the free agents (restricted and unrestricted) for the Bucks position to fill.
| Acie Law | Flip Murray |
| Jannero Pargo | Anthony Carter |
| Chucky Atkins | Will Bynum |
| Earl Watson | Bobby Brown |
| Jamaal Tinsley | Marcus Williams |
| Rafer Alston | Carlos Arroyo |
| Royal Ivey | CJ Watson |
| Chris Quinn | Cedric Jackson |
| Eddie House | Kevin Ollie |
| Mustafa Shakur | Anthony Johnson |
| Jason Williams | Allen Iverson |
| Travis Diener | Patrick Mills |
| Earl Boykins | Javaris Crittenton |
Luke Ridnour is on this list based on my belief that while we are in play for him, I wouldn't put it past John Hammond to be looking elsewhere. Not to mention our budget might not fit Ridnour's desire.
So what say you, bloggers? Who do you want to see in a Bucks uniform next year?
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I'm tempted to say Boykins because of the humor factor ;)
I know Fisher is probably going back to the Lakers but how much do you think he would get? Certainly wouldn’t mind him as a backup.
Otherwise, Ridnour would still be my number one choice, but probably not going to happen. I’d leave it down to:
-Duhon (Skiles factor…)
-Kyle Lowry
-Will Bynum
That said, if teams fall out of the Ridnour sweepstakes (lol) than we might have a chance.
"Now, Maggette's one of those where when he catches, it's probably going to go up--Not to a teammate." --Jon McGlocklin, 11/14/09
Too late anyway.
"Now, Maggette's one of those where when he catches, it's probably going to go up--Not to a teammate." --Jon McGlocklin, 11/14/09
by Jacob Grinyer on Jul 7, 2010 4:08 PM CDT up reply actions
just wanna clarify
that duhon is the worst pg in the league.
twitter.com/aighttho
http://aightthen.tumblr.com/
ive had worse ;)
"That," says LeBron, "is for everyone that watches me play. They witness something special. You're all a witness."
Experience
I think any veteran would be fine, if we are ready to make a push you want to have a steadying influence out there, maybe even a guy with playoff experience. Arroyo, Boykins Tinsley, Earl Watson, Jason Williams would all do I think. We dont’ have a lot to spend so we aren’t going to get a game changer, just a steady player would do fine. I think we still need a 3rd centre as well though, someone to play garbage time and to be 6 fouls on nights when Bogut and/or Gooden gets into foul trouble. Hoping for KT there.
lol
"Now, Maggette's one of those where when he catches, it's probably going to go up--Not to a teammate." --Jon McGlocklin, 11/14/09
by Jacob Grinyer on Jul 4, 2010 5:19 PM CDT up reply actions
I personally wouldnt mind though he probably needs a team where he can get a few more minutes?
having said that I dont think he shoots particularly well, and will always be a red flag with his history of injuries unfortunately
Livingston isn't ideal for this team unless we have a vet 3rd stringer
but it looks like that’s Darrington Hobson’s role and if Livingston went down, not sure Hobson is ready to play 2nd string PG. If they signed Deiner (or someone comparable to Deiner who only demands a <$1mil contract) and Livingston, I’d give my wholehearted approval. Letting Livingston get the primary 2nd string minutes, but having Deiner just in case.
Ideally...
Veteran, three point range, bit bigger/stronger than Brandon. Realistically, we’re not going to get all of those in one package for the BAE…
I'll say it again. Patty Mills
Give the boy some court time and you will see what he can do – Patty Mills gets my vote.
He would be a great backup to Jennings. Already has chemisty with Bogut.
Sure he is raw, but so are diamonds before they are cut and polished.
I like Patty Mills, and his talent is intriguing - but most teams would wisely stick him in the D league for a while.
I’m sure Milw would, too. The Bucks need an exp PG behind BJ… atleast this year.
Which Bobby Brown is that....
Wife beater Bobby Brown, Bobby Brown of Frank Zappa fame, or the stiff on the Clips?
As much as I don't care for Jason Williams....
He had an excellent year last year backing up Nelson in Orlando – 20mpg, 6ppg, 4ppg, 44%fg, 38% on 3pointers….. He actually might be the best backup PG available, IMO – and might be had for around the BAE
I just hope he’s lost his attitude from his younger days…
If the Bucks keep Ridinour they are a top team in the West
if they sign Duhon or Watson, I feel they will miss his valuable production and be a worse team. Ridinour was huge last year, had a breakout year and he is going for just 3 mil a year, you can’t pass on that.
Fuck the Lakers...Oh sorry the Fakers
Hard to say
You had a breakout year @ 29. I think most people think it was an anomaly, as well he’s more of a shooter than facilitator I think, shoting hopefully is less needed this year. If Signing Ridnour is the difference between success and failure…………..the Bucks karmais out of whack. BTW we still play in the East.
I'd be good with Jason though
Think I mentioned him in a post nearer the top. Really need a guy with experience and who knows how to play at certain times. On a different note with hopefully a better O this year does BJ shoot less(hopefully).
I'm tempted to play the "attitude" card here.
"Now, Maggette's one of those where when he catches, it's probably going to go up--Not to a teammate." --Jon McGlocklin, 11/14/09
by Jacob Grinyer on Jul 5, 2010 5:26 PM CDT up reply actions
I agree w/ you about Brandons shooting...
If he can raise his FG% and APG – while taking less shots….. he’ll probably be an all-star. With his vision & passing skills, and the offense now on this team, he really should avg 7+apg
Think it's going to take a while
To play out though, nothing going to happen til the big boys are off the board
I think once Ridnour officially snubs whatever the Bucks offer...
They’ll go get their guy… whoever it is.
I think we wait until the lux tax level is official
Maybe Bucks just holding out until they know how much money is available?
by Frank Madden on Jul 6, 2010 12:23 PM CDT up reply actions
touche : )
But I’d think after the way JH gushed about him, they’d atleast make him an offer…. maybe not.
Anyone think it would be worth taking a flyer
On Randy Foye. If he ever lived up to his drafted position you would have a bargain. Haven’t seen him play much as Wiz and Wolves games rare up here. I know he can play either guard, just not sure how well. Any thoughts?
I'd love to get Foye
Not sure if he’d sign for the BAE considering he has a pretty valuable skillset.
I don't know much about Foye, other than he's a higly mediocre combo guard.
But I’d like him for the right price – he’s a talented dude. It’s almost unfair to judge him by the horrible, dysfuntional teams he has been on. He’d probably shine coming off the bench for a good team.
I also think he’d cost more than Ridnour, given his age & stats.
Shhh
..Your making Hammond excited
"Now, Maggette's one of those where when he catches, it's probably going to go up--Not to a teammate." --Jon McGlocklin, 11/14/09
by Jacob Grinyer on Jul 5, 2010 9:34 PM CDT up reply actions
Foye isn't the answer
sure, he’s been on some dysfunctional teams…but he’s part of the reason those teams haven’t functioned efficiently. He’s horrible at moving the ball or creating plays.
Foye would be an excellent addition, if the price was low enough..... but i doubt it will be.
And that would OFFICIALLY make the Bucks the deepest team in the league….. by far.
If the Bucks are gonna go into the tax this year, Foye might be a better choice than Ridnour, but he may prove to be more of a SG than PG.
But maybe he slips through the cracks, and the checked shirt gets him for around the BAE… which would be a STEAL!!
Agreed
Living in DC, I can only go to Wizard games and trust Foye can play the PG spot and nail open jumpers consistently.
the Bucks have just over 3mil to spend on FAs....
Get a backup PG for the BAE and offer K Thomas the vets minimum…. If he gets a better deal, let him walk.
Regardless on how the situation w/ the bigs shake out… KT would be a good mentor to Sanders, and a nice insurance policy to have on the roster for cheap, IMO.
So long, Duhon...
http://basketball.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/67882/20100706/duhon_agrees_to_four_year_$15m_deal_with_orlando/
"Now, Maggette's one of those where when he catches, it's probably going to go up--Not to a teammate." --Jon McGlocklin, 11/14/09
Wow, Orlando really likes to spend money. I liked Duhon, but not at that price.
Now this signing makes me wonder if Orlando intends to resign Reddick. I think he is a goner unless they can find someone to take on Vince Carter.
I feel sorry for the next team that thinks Carter
Is the final piece that will push them over the top….
"Now, Maggette's one of those where when he catches, it's probably going to go up--Not to a teammate." --Jon McGlocklin, 11/14/09
by Jacob Grinyer on Jul 6, 2010 10:07 AM CDT up reply actions
I would never underestimate the stupidity of some NBA executives...
"Now, Maggette's one of those where when he catches, it's probably going to go up--Not to a teammate." --Jon McGlocklin, 11/14/09
by Jacob Grinyer on Jul 6, 2010 10:32 AM CDT up reply actions
fair enough....
When LBJ re-signs w/ Cleveland, maybe they’ll bring VC there to join the continuing caravan of washed up former stars to help get LBJ a titile….
Bahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!! : )
So....... if Duhon is fetching just under 4mil a year....
I think the checked shirt is gonna have to pull a rabbit out of his hat to get a decent backup PG w/ the BAE…. I just hope they don’t overpay a guy like Ridnour.
And the Duhon deal is a great example of why I hope they move on a guy sooner than later – or they will almost definately overpay.
Jason Williams agent already said they expect a raise from the 1.3mil he made last year – so I don’t know if the BAE would cut it.
I still don’t know if i want him as a Buck – he was really D bag back in the day, but he’s 34 now, so maybe he’s mellowed….. plus, Skiles will kick his ass if he stepped out of line.
It would be interesting to see how Skiles & Nate Robinson would work.... if at all.
It would make for good theatre, if nothing else : )
Robinson
Is best suited as a 2nd 2nd option.
Does anyone really see the Bucks signing one of the players from the list above???
I don’t….. Maybe Duhon, but he’s gone.
I’m guessing the checked shirt makes a trade???
Seems like it'd have to be part of a bigger deal
I don’t think anyone currently on the roster is an obvious guy you move for a veteran backup PG. You can always get someone from the list above off the scrap heap though, so no pressure to make a move quickly.
by Frank Madden on Jul 6, 2010 12:25 PM CDT up reply actions
Woelfel
Speaking of the scrapheap, Woelfel alluded to Anthony Carter/Anthony Johnson being potential fallbacks.
http://wssp.radiotown.com/audio/The_Big_Show/070110_Woelfel.mp3
by Frank Madden on Jul 6, 2010 12:26 PM CDT up reply actions
hoopshype.com is reporting that Knicks are interested in Ridnour to be their starter...
and they have also “reached out” to Kurt Thomas. It also appears J Williams will return to Miami.
This free agent point guard watch is becoming a game of lowered expectations.
At this rate, the Bucks will be rolling out a D leaguer as their backup point. Of course, looking at a guy like Sundiata Gaines making an impact at Utah late last year, maybe that wouldn’t be such a bad thing. At least it would be a cheap option.
Realistically though, Jennings still needs a stable vet as a backup.
this market Ridnour is pretty much priced out of our range.....when these deals started going down I kinda felt that
cant see him signing for under $5 million a year now really…….we may see his career shooting year as a one off but its a business for him and his manager will leverage those numbers as he should to get a great deal for him
Yeah... I'm actually concerned about the backup PG spot
I think LR is long gone – and if the Bucks don’t move quick, they won’t even get the best remaing bargain guys, and may have to get a D leaguer. Yikes!!
hmm I know a steady guy is needed but I think we can find someone we like to fill that role
my preference is Earl Watson because he can stick defensively but he cant shoot a lick……but lets be honest before Ridnour played under Skiles he was seen as a bit of a soft offensive and in fact he was benched for Watson in their Seattle days because of his defensive frailties so if we can get someone with a bit of talent Skiles can make mould them into what he Needs….im pretty confident we will be ok there
also Duhons contract are people that shocked???
honestly im kinda yeah ok shrugging my shoulders, after the contracts so far Im figuring thats about average in this surreal market, dude is a pretty solid backup pg just asked to do too much in NY
I know Amare will get his numbers and highlights and will once in awhile dominate a game but I think he is no way a max guy and is more interested in his stats and all star image than winning I think thats a horrible contract
I agree....
Amare will NOT be the same player w/o Nash serving it up to him – but his deal STILL isn’t as bad as J Johnsons – close, but JJ wins.
And w/ the offensive talent on this team, I doubt JH gets some chump to backup BJ – the checked shirt will make a move…
But he'll still be really good.
He was a 20 point scorer even before Nash returned to Phoenix, albeit less efficient.
"Now, Maggette's one of those where when he catches, it's probably going to go up--Not to a teammate." --Jon McGlocklin, 11/14/09
by Jacob Grinyer on Jul 6, 2010 1:41 PM CDT up reply actions
no argument Amare cares about his image enought to be really good.....he could be pretty special tho if he had that killer instinct
but he is a nice complimentary player….yeah interesting to see how much the Nash effect has on him and on Hakim Warrick…..running with Nash Warrick could put up 15/16 ppg I guess
I question whether Amare will be worth the premium over Lee
Amare has a better chance of luring another big FA and will energize the fan base a bit, but on the court I don’t think he’s going to be that much better than Lee (if at all). They could bring back Lee if they don’t get anyone else, but who knows.
Wonder who would play C in that scenario...Lee or Amare?
Squad Six is to the Bucks what beer is to Milwaukee (or anywhere else for that matter)... the catalyst for you doing dumb things in public and not feeling self-conscious!
by Big Crazy Dave on Jul 6, 2010 9:31 PM CDT up reply actions
That would be a bad move
They’d look like the ATL Hawks starting a PF at C. Just doesn’t win championships and eventually one of them would have to roll to the 2nd string if they wanted to set their sights one the championship. You see how Bogut works Lee, Perkins, etc. Just not a good idea.
Probably good for a yr or two.. but I view Amare as a player whos best days are behind him....
His knees will eventually fail him – and when he loses his explosiveness – he’ll be an average player, at best.
I hate to say it... but given the Bucks budget, they might be wise to grab T Diener... now.
Plus…. it’d be good PR material – “local boy comes home” – and all that crap…..
dont no much about the dude but im sure he could surprise
as long as the guy can take care of the ball and shoot an open jumper he should be fine, make an effort to stay in front his man on defense and he will be A-ok
I wouldn't worry too much
About a back-up PG, there are only so many teams that will sign the best of them, there will be something serviceable later. And if not, seeing as Charlie Bell played a little point for us, I’m sure the Warriors could be persuaded to deal him back to us.
Okay I’m JK
No love for Eddie House? C'mon guys...
In all seriousness, though, this is what we have to choose from, fellas. Aside from a D-League pickup or a trade, this is our pool of players. Personally, I’m ecstatic that Duhon got picked up by the Magic. Not that my second favorite team overpaid an at best second string PG, but that Milwaukee wasn’t the team to do so. I’d love to see Derek Fisher in a Bucks uniform. I think he could be a mentor for Jennings as well as a solid backup. He’s no longer guaranteed in LA now that they picked up Steve Blake (can’t believe I’m really typing that), but if he’d be up for a change in scenery, I’d probably take him over Ridnour at this point. Assuming we could afford him.
If we could afford Ridnour, I'd still prefer him over House.
But yes, House is a legitimate option, but we’ll have to sacrifice some ball movement on the offensive end.
"Now, Maggette's one of those where when he catches, it's probably going to go up--Not to a teammate." --Jon McGlocklin, 11/14/09
by Jacob Grinyer on Jul 6, 2010 4:46 PM CDT up reply actions
House is a good option
No less ball movement than Ridnour. Knocks down the open J. Great for playing the inside-out game.
House doesn't seem like a Skiles kind of player....
Streaky, No D, questionable shot selection, not much of a passer….
I don’t like him as the backup PG – but I do like him as the designated shooter off the bench.
Had his best year or two in D'Antoni's offense at PHO IMO...
…career 1.6 AST in about 17mpg…enough said…
Squad Six is to the Bucks what beer is to Milwaukee (or anywhere else for that matter)... the catalyst for you doing dumb things in public and not feeling self-conscious!
by Big Crazy Dave on Jul 6, 2010 5:06 PM CDT up reply actions
Ouch 1.6 career assists?
That’s frightening. Still, considering Jennings will probably play close to 40MPG this year, Eddie House as backup firepower wouldn’t be too bad.
Diener – would he be considered the poor man’s Luke Ridnour?
I think that's fair
Which would make Diener a homeless, urine-soaked man’s Steve Nash. Or something.
by Frank Madden on Jul 7, 2010 10:47 AM CDT up reply actions
Oh God LOL
Why do you torture me with such images?
"Now, Maggette's one of those where when he catches, it's probably going to go up--Not to a teammate." --Jon McGlocklin, 11/14/09
by Jacob Grinyer on Jul 7, 2010 1:09 PM CDT up reply actions
I think Milly would love CJ Watson
I know CJ wants to try to sign into a situation with more guaranteed minutes…and he’s restricted (at some number, GS would certainly match)….but the kid can shoot and he’s tough and he can handle the ball as well as most of the guys on that list.
that wouldn't get CJ's name on an offer sheet, but
considering the new cap number, what if Milly offered CJ the same deal that Duhon just signed in Orlando (4 years, $15ish mil)? The first question is…do you even like the idea of Milly pursuing CJ over some of the other potential targets (i.e., Diener, Earl Watson, J-Will, House, etc.). I think CJ would be a great addition.
ignore that last post
I just read your article on the cap figure and realized I had a brain fart when I posted the suggestion of offering a Duhon-type contract to CJ. To get CJ, it would have to be by way of sign and trade and my guess is that the Warriors would want Ersan (although we were kind enough to take Maggette’s contract off of their books…so perhaps, if CJ wanted to come to Milly and Kurt Thomas or Stackhouse was willing to play ball, Milly could get the sign and trade done with one of them). Also, I’m guessing there would be some sort of issue with base level compensation for CJ that would screw up that last idea. In short, CJ would be a nice addition, but I don’t see pursuing him as a realistic possibility.
Travis Diener...
Here are his stats from 07-08 and 08-09 when he actually got meaningful playing time…
SEASON FG% FT% P/40 R/40 A/40 TS% Ast TO Usg Reb PER
2007-08 .370 .901 13.5 3.4 7.4 49.4 32.7 7.2 16.8 4.6 12.24
2008-09 .413 .800 11.5 4.8 6.8 55.5 37.1 6.4 13.1 6.6 13.74
A couple things to like...
Ast % of 32.7% and 37.1% – fits in perfectly with a 2nd unit with Maggette who will be looking to score….
PER of around 13… not going to find a value like that for the minimum…
TO% of 7.2% and 6.4% – he is very careful with the ball which is what we need…
We already have enough guys off the bench who can score, rebound, and help us out…
Diener would be a good team guy who would fit in, set his teammates up, and not hurt you at all… plus he would only get 10 mins a game…
TD would look to be a solid pickup....
I’d still rather have Arroyo or maybe Earl Watson… but TD would probably be OK.
Biggest concern is defense IMO
That was my main issue with Ridnour backing up BJ—both guys are super small, and Ridnour’s not super quick either. Would be nice if we had a more physical defender who wasn’t Royal Ivey.
I think at the minimum though you can't expect much more from a guy than to have one nba skill...
so it would be tough to find everything we want in a backup PG
I am still convinced...
…that the PG/C conundrum will be solved through a trade…one that JH has been working on for months…and, yes, I am an eternal optimist ;)
Squad Six is to the Bucks what beer is to Milwaukee (or anywhere else for that matter)... the catalyst for you doing dumb things in public and not feeling self-conscious!
by Big Crazy Dave on Jul 7, 2010 7:54 PM CDT up reply actions
Maybe this is my bias against signing hometown guys for the fans* coming through
But counting on Diener as the 2nd string PG seems like counting on a college small forward to be a point guard in the NBA – very, very risky. I’d rather see them sign a veteran guy.
*I know no one is saying that anymore but it always annoys me when fan support is cited as a reason to sign someone. Fans will come to see a winner, not a Diener.
Eagerly awaiting SBN Madison.
I agree.... I hate the whole "local boy comes home" crap....
But TD actually put up decent numbers in Ind. when he was given playing time…
I’d like to see them deal for a PG, but if they go on the cheap – TD is a good as any of the other UFA PGs…… which ain’t sayin much!
i could care less about the fact he is a wisconsin kid...
i have shown you he is a good value for the minimum regardless of where he’s from…
Sure... he's a good value for the minimum... but will he sign for that??? What is he worth???
I don’t know what the vets minimum is for guys w/ his exp – but it’s a lot less than the BAE, which is just over 2mil per…
I seriously doubts he signs for peanuts – and the Bucks probably won’t offer much more than peanuts…
I'd be down w/ that deal.... But I'd be a bit surprised if LR is....
Couldn’t he get more money/years from another team???
I agree w/ B.C. Dave - I think JH trades for a PG
Esprecially considering they have ONE pg – and FIVE bigs…. SIX, if Gallon makes the team
Anyhoo… here’s my wishlist for the UFAs:
Earl Watson
Arroyo
A Carter
A Johnson
Diener
Any of the above should be OK…. but I doubt the checked shirt is gonna go on the cheap for BJs backup…. I say he trades.
he won't play more than 5 minutes a game even if he isn't in the D-League all season..
too young, raw, and out of shape at this point…
i think they will but will be inactive most nights...
hopefully they prove me wrong but they are mere 2nd rounders…
by Superelkman on Jul 13, 2010 10:59 AM CDT up reply actions
I think so, too.... he appears to be a bit goofy... but he's 6'9" 300lbs w/ interesting skills.....
If nothing else…. they could stick him in the D league and see what happens. Of all the rookies, he’s the one I see spending time there – just to get playing time/conditioning.
Hey BJs
Saw on another thread that you were working in columbo. One question, do you have to spell your employee’s names? Ouch that must be the hardest part of the job.
Haha!
Squad Six is to the Bucks what beer is to Milwaukee (or anywhere else for that matter)... the catalyst for you doing dumb things in public and not feeling self-conscious!
by Big Crazy Dave on Jul 8, 2010 4:36 PM CDT up reply actions
I know
Worked in Toronto for w while, I’d see these 40 letter names and they would be like “I’m Joe”
haha my surname has what about 10 letters....that was problem enough growing up in Australia haha
im like yeah just calle me Jay thanks
"That," says LeBron, "is for everyone that watches me play. They witness something special. You're all a witness."
Guys that could backup Mr. Jennings
CJ Watson = previous chemistry with Corey Maggette. (similar game to BJ3) just a poor mans version.
Rafer Alston = bring back “skip to my lou” he could reserect M. Redd with old stories of riding the pine while the ol’ milwaukee big 3 played. Anyone remember that National T.V game against the knicks when M. Redd went nuts.
Will Bynum = He’s a good player simple as that. Detroit just sucked.
Kyle Lowry = He’s a good player simple as that.
We should sign Ibrahim Jaaber
aka the guy Jennings backed up at Roma. He’s playing for the Lakers summer league team.
No idea if he’s any good, mind you, but it would be funny to see happen.
by richardhkirkando on Jul 11, 2010 5:16 PM CDT reply actions
As the scrap heap for PGs dwindles, what will JH do??? Wait until Sep to grab some retread??
Or make a trade???
Keep in mind, the Bucks have SIX bigs [bogut, sanders, gooden, luc, ersan, gallon] and ONE pg……
Add Sessions to that list Brotha!
Add Ramon to that list cause he’s possibly coming back HOME!!!!!!
http://www.brewhoop.com/2010/7/12/1566078/another-stint-for-sessions
Add your opinion on the All ready HOT Sessions Vs. Jennings topic!
ENJOY!!!!
by Marko Schmidt on Jul 12, 2010 5:15 PM CDT up reply actions
Dude... there is no PG topic....stop taking your PEDs, they're frying your brain!!!
Not to mention, shrinking your balls!
When will you ever learn.
"Now, Maggette's one of those where when he catches, it's probably going to go up--Not to a teammate." --Jon McGlocklin, 11/14/09
by Jacob Grinyer on Jul 12, 2010 6:38 PM CDT up reply actions
No... it was "erased" because you posted a bogus report to intentionally mislead readers
You posted a fake story of YOUR fantasy trade…. and I really wish you were banned.
It’s one thing to be a moronic homer who knows nothing about basketball – but it’s a whole nother thing to do what you did.
Did I miss Marko getting into an argument with everybody on that...?
"Now, Maggette's one of those where when he catches, it's probably going to go up--Not to a teammate." --Jon McGlocklin, 11/14/09
by Jacob Grinyer on Jul 12, 2010 6:41 PM CDT up reply actions
I did
But then I left after I commented that he should provide a link and that it should be in the fan posts.
"Now, Maggette's one of those where when he catches, it's probably going to go up--Not to a teammate." --Jon McGlocklin, 11/14/09
by Jacob Grinyer on Jul 12, 2010 6:45 PM CDT up reply actions
Should've known it was fake.
"Now, Maggette's one of those where when he catches, it's probably going to go up--Not to a teammate." --Jon McGlocklin, 11/14/09
by Jacob Grinyer on Jul 12, 2010 6:46 PM CDT up reply actions
Yup - he made the whole thing up.
Then Frank told him what’s up w/ that kind of crap and erased it.
Does anyone know where i can follow the box score from the game tonite?
Does nba.com have a live box score – or just the final box score? Thanks.
Well I can provide you with some goods... wink wink nudge nudge...
http://www.dailyfunsports.com/2010/07/link-1.html
"Now, Maggette's one of those where when he catches, it's probably going to go up--Not to a teammate." --Jon McGlocklin, 11/14/09
by Jacob Grinyer on Jul 12, 2010 6:53 PM CDT up reply actions
Woelfel
The scuttlebutt is Luke Ridnour is on verge of taking 4-year deal from Minnesota.
http://twitter.com/GeryWoelfel/status/18400956925
Thank the lord Kahn isn’t our GM.
"Now, Maggette's one of those where when he catches, it's probably going to go up--Not to a teammate." --Jon McGlocklin, 11/14/09
Now it seems the deal is all but complete
WojYahooNBA
Free agent guard Luke Ridnour is close to accepting a four year, $16 million offer with Minnesota, a league source tells Y!
http://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA/status/18454161481
Have fun, Frodo. Not that far of drive to Minny ;)
"Now, Maggette's one of those where when he catches, it's probably going to go up--Not to a teammate." --Jon McGlocklin, 11/14/09
by Jacob Grinyer on Jul 13, 2010 12:45 PM CDT up reply actions
Seriously.... if they sign LR, they'll have him, Flynn, and Sessions - not to mention Rubio
Could Sessions be had for cheap? Maybe a 2nd rounder or two
His deal has 3yrs @ 4mil per left…. which ain’t bad for a quality backup – we paid LR 6.5mil last year.
is this serious?
"That," says LeBron, "is for everyone that watches me play. They witness something special. You're all a witness."
no fucking way... if we are going to pay that for a middling pg i'd rather just pay ridnour...
by Superelkman on Jul 13, 2010 11:01 AM CDT up reply actions
I take it your not very fond of Sessions
"Now, Maggette's one of those where when he catches, it's probably going to go up--Not to a teammate." --Jon McGlocklin, 11/14/09
by Jacob Grinyer on Jul 13, 2010 11:06 AM CDT up reply actions
he is ok...
i just don’t think he fits for that price…
by Superelkman on Jul 13, 2010 11:10 AM CDT up reply actions
i just really think with the makeup of our 2nd unit we need a guy who can hit open jumpers and play defense...
don’t get me wrong… we could do far worse as far as backup pg’s go… but for the price ridnour is a much better fit…
by Superelkman on Jul 13, 2010 11:13 AM CDT up reply actions
Kahn loves PGs.... and he is a moron.... so I'm guessing they sign Ridnour
Giving them Flynn, Ridnour, Sessions, AND the draft rights to Rubio….. man, this guy is actually worse than L Harris, me thinks.
dude first McHale now Kahn......at least Milwaukee learnt
"That," says LeBron, "is for everyone that watches me play. They witness something special. You're all a witness."
PATTY MILLS FOR BACKUP PG!!!
I hope the Bucks make a run at getting Patty Mills because I’m pretty sure that he won’t stick with the Blazers because they have a logjam at that position and Mills seems like the odd man out.
by ignoranceisbliss on Jul 13, 2010 1:05 AM CDT reply actions
Can Mills run the point? Isn't he mainly a scorer???
We need a solid vet behind BJ, IMO.
Someone that plays D, and can disribute the ball… the Bucks don’t need a scorer off the bench, they’ll have plenty of offense w/ Maggette, CRD, and Ersan….
Yeah, Patty is definitely an 'energy' scorer at this point...
…he does have some great skills but really needs to refine his passing and ball protection (too many TO’s). As much as it kills me to say it, I don’t think he would be a good fit with the Bucks at the moment.
His footwork has really improved and he keeps in front of the ball carrier on D, but he is too small to not be a great passer at the moment.
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by Big Crazy Dave on Jul 13, 2010 1:23 AM CDT up reply actions
i dont think it is important that our backup pg is a distributor as much as he can shoot 3's and play D...
that 2nd unit will have guys that can score on their own without a good pg to set them up… especially with how few minutes the backup pg figures to play…
by Superelkman on Jul 13, 2010 11:02 AM CDT up reply actions
Living the high life!
"Now, Maggette's one of those where when he catches, it's probably going to go up--Not to a teammate." --Jon McGlocklin, 11/14/09
by Jacob Grinyer on Jul 13, 2010 12:02 PM CDT up reply actions
leopard print dinner jacket always screams money to me.......
"That," says LeBron, "is for everyone that watches me play. They witness something special. You're all a witness."
If JH goes w/ an available FA - I'm hoping it's E Watson or A Carter....
Both are solid vets who would know their roles, and fit in nicely….
I would definitely take Earl in a heartbeat...
…if we can snag him for not too much. Brings some toughness to the PG rotation for sure, plus he’s a what…6-7 year vet?
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by Big Crazy Dave on Jul 13, 2010 1:32 AM CDT up reply actions
Earl is a 9yr vet... not much of a scorer, but a solid vet that could prob be had for the BAE, IMO...
Scrappy Floor general-type who plays great D….. Skiles would prob love him!!
Wow...he's been around longer than I thought!
I seem to remember him stealing a ton of minutes from Ridnour a few years back with the Sonics…
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by Big Crazy Dave on Jul 13, 2010 1:40 AM CDT up reply actions
Earl Watson is the obvious choice for the Bucks at the moment
ready to go vet, good on the ball defender, solid distributor, cant shoot with any range but no one is perfect at this stage
"That," says LeBron, "is for everyone that watches me play. They witness something special. You're all a witness."
where are you guys getting the good defender stuff?
maybe 3 years ago… not now….
by Superelkman on Jul 13, 2010 11:09 AM CDT up reply actions
Didn't see him play at all the last 2 seasons...
…was working from assumptions…my bad!
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by Big Crazy Dave on Jul 14, 2010 1:02 AM CDT up reply actions
yes dont see much of Indiana at all which is usually a good thing I imagine....
but my bad too…………okay so he once was a decent defender, so now we can call him a savvy competitor and okay distributor…….
"That," says LeBron, "is for everyone that watches me play. They witness something special. You're all a witness."
if you read recent scouting reports and look at his adjusted defensive ratings over the last few years you'll see that earl is no longer a good defender...
he is getting old and losing his atheltic ability….
he is also an erratic shooter from outside…
what he can do is take care of the ball and distribute however…
IMO, not the best fit but we could do worse at the backup PG spot I suppose…
by Superelkman on Jul 13, 2010 11:08 AM CDT up reply actions
EW was also the starter in Indy for much of last season....
So the team would be in good hands if anything were to happen to BJ…. worst case scenario.
He's a pass-first point.
Which with our sudden scoring ‘prowess’, makes him even more valuable IMO. I think you said in an earlier post that you really hope BJ can focus more on his passing than needing to score…I hope so too, takes a lot of pressure off him to be ‘the guy’ all the time and gives him a chance to set things up and use his great court vision more to the team’s advantage.
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yes Earl and Ridnour had a bit of pg face off in Seattle....basically Ridnour lost his starting role to him
because of defensive reasons obviously though Ridnour has toughened up a bit
"That," says LeBron, "is for everyone that watches me play. They witness something special. You're all a witness."
Luke is going to have his own "Decision"
“This fall, I’m taking my talents to southeastern Wisconsin”
"Now, Maggette's one of those where when he catches, it's probably going to go up--Not to a teammate." --Jon McGlocklin, 11/14/09
he should... if he did that I would absolutely love it no matter who he chose...
it would be hilarious….
by Superelkman on Jul 13, 2010 11:09 AM CDT up reply actions
actually that should be a required contract thing for all free agents....
they all have to open with a press conference with the saying this fall im taking my talents to……..
"That," says LeBron, "is for everyone that watches me play. They witness something special. You're all a witness."
Unfortunately, after Luke makes the announcement...
…he realises that all he can hear is the chirping of crickets…
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by Big Crazy Dave on Jul 14, 2010 1:04 AM CDT up reply actions
T-Wolves trade Jefferson to Utah for a 1st rounder
I don’t care if you want to get rid of salary, you don’t trade Al Jefferson for a 1st round pick. If there’s one thing Kahn doesn’t need, it’s another 1st rounder.
"Now, Maggette's one of those where when he catches, it's probably going to go up--Not to a teammate." --Jon McGlocklin, 11/14/09
hmm I dont know just getting rid of that contract is probably best for the Wolves
probably good for Jefferson too, anyway what does Kahn care he wasnt a pg, or european so out with him
"That," says LeBron, "is for everyone that watches me play. They witness something special. You're all a witness."
The silliest thing about this trade, I think
Was probably that Kahn traded him because he felt bad for him for some reason and was more concerned with where he went and how he’d fit in there then what the Wolves got in return. That’s a pretty crappy way to run a team. See here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lh9X_Efx8gE
"Now, Maggette's one of those where when he catches, it's probably going to go up--Not to a teammate." --Jon McGlocklin, 11/14/09
by Jacob Grinyer on Jul 15, 2010 5:04 PM CDT up reply actions
Ridnour
Ridnour to the Twolves. 4 year 16 million. I guess they didn’t like last years backup PG they got from the Bucks and decided to try another one.
Nothings official yet
But it looks to be going that way.
"Now, Maggette's one of those where when he catches, it's probably going to go up--Not to a teammate." --Jon McGlocklin, 11/14/09
by Jacob Grinyer on Jul 14, 2010 9:35 AM CDT up reply actions
we could but David Kahn doesnt trade point guards... he trades for them... so we are shit out of luck
David Kahn wants to field the 1st 5 PG lineup…
by Superelkman on Jul 13, 2010 11:29 PM CDT up reply actions
Looking forward to that 3 point guard 2 eurocenter lineup next year in Minnesota
by Brick's house on Jul 14, 2010 12:45 AM CDT up reply actions
That roster is a mess.
Kahn’s biggest focus should have to get a really good swing player that can create shots for the Triangle offense, but he goes out and gets another pick and roll point guard. Just dumb.
by Brick's house on Jul 14, 2010 12:54 AM CDT up reply actions
hey hey Kahn has a plan...................it may be complete shite but still he is a man with a plan
"That," says LeBron, "is for everyone that watches me play. They witness something special. You're all a witness."
I admire his outright stubbornes and stupidity....
apparently he is a total douche to trade with as well…..he basically gave Jefferson away but he managed to move that contract which I wasnt sure he could so thats something………….
then he goes and fills it with avg small forwards, a ridiculous amount of pg’s and trashy euro big men…..all whilst trying to run a pseudo triangle
get the ball and run run run….call Jim Cleamons the triangle doesnt work unless your Phil Jackson and loaded with a superstar
"That," says LeBron, "is for everyone that watches me play. They witness something special. You're all a witness."
But Minny DOES have a superstar...
…oh, wait, sorry…that was Ricky Rubio…my bad…!
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by Big Crazy Dave on Jul 14, 2010 4:00 AM CDT up reply actions
haha maybe marketing and hype wise....not sure about actual productive play wise
how many 19 year old pg’s make an impact immediately in the NBA………….
I think Kahn just likes having the rights to Rubio so he can get a converstaion with every other GM who would otherwise hang up on him because the T’Wolves roster is littered with trash? I actually think its partly true the guy is that much of an idiot
if they ever actually got Rubio to play for them they wouldnt know what to do
"That," says LeBron, "is for everyone that watches me play. They witness something special. You're all a witness."
Yeah...a VERY tongue in cheek remark I made ;)
I’m sure Kahn knows what he wants to do, just doesn’t have the ‘nous’, savvy or contacts to make things happen. Unfortunately, they’re probably the 3 main tools an NBA GM needs to have to be successful. I mean, Hammond has all of those in abundance…especially the contacts.
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by Big Crazy Dave on Jul 14, 2010 4:34 AM CDT up reply actions
I also recall hearing that Kahn also had an abbrasive and arrogance when dealing with other GM's that also didnt endear him to his peers
"That," says LeBron, "is for everyone that watches me play. They witness something special. You're all a witness."
Yeah, I heard that too.
I bet when your peerage is only 30 men in size, bridges can be burnt pretty damn quick.
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by Big Crazy Dave on Jul 14, 2010 5:44 AM CDT up reply actions
speaking of GM's the Nets looking at Billy King....seriously??
"That," says LeBron, "is for everyone that watches me play. They witness something special. You're all a witness."
They do have something to look forward to
Darko is obviously the second coming of Chris Webber and Vlade Divac in the making.
"Now, Maggette's one of those where when he catches, it's probably going to go up--Not to a teammate." --Jon McGlocklin, 11/14/09
by Jacob Grinyer on Jul 15, 2010 10:10 AM CDT up reply actions
I cant believe Ridnour went for the T'Wolves??
I know we question Kahn’s mentality but Ill questions Luke’s….the Wolves are a rabble of an organisation and he could have landed a 3 year deal for around $12 so for an extra season he jumped ship to the wolves??? to back up Johnny Flynn
surely it cant be all about dollars there has to be some job satisfaction…thats staggering really
"That," says LeBron, "is for everyone that watches me play. They witness something special. You're all a witness."
Makes you think
There’s something else at play here………
I'm taking my talents to.......The Golden Arches!
with the bucks? wolves? or ridnour?
one of the strangest moves of what has been a pretty strange off season
"That," says LeBron, "is for everyone that watches me play. They witness something special. You're all a witness."
Wolves and collection of PGs
Kahn can’t think he needs that many of them
I'm taking my talents to.......The Golden Arches!
Kahn has outdone himself this summer I have to admit......
he passed on De Marcus Cousins…..then trades Jefferson, signs Darko to a reasonably big contract in Darko terms when no one else had any interest
drafts a small forward at pick 4, and then Lazar Hayward…… then trades for Beasley and Webster
then adds another veteran pg
they have alot of pieces that just dont add up
"That," says LeBron, "is for everyone that watches me play. They witness something special. You're all a witness."
I wouldnt have thought but plenty of GM's just seem out of their depth
whats their projected starting line up?
Darko, Love, Wes Johnson/Beasley, Brewer, Flynn???
thats pretty trashy….at least if they let them run and stopped with this triangle nonsense they could get up and down the court……Love is a nice piece and Brewer and Flynn can get up and down the court…….
"That," says LeBron, "is for everyone that watches me play. They witness something special. You're all a witness."
Hm.
WojYahooNBA
Luke Ridnour has agreed in principle to a 4-year, $16 million deal with Wolves, sources say. Wolves may move Ramon Sessions to Charlotte.
http://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA/status/18526214001
Now it looks like a done deal.
"Now, Maggette's one of those where when he catches, it's probably going to go up--Not to a teammate." --Jon McGlocklin, 11/14/09
by Jacob Grinyer on Jul 14, 2010 10:13 AM CDT up reply actions
Kahn is a joker seriously......I thought this was a joke honestly
watch out lets make we lock up our back up pg this year…otherwise you know who is gonna come calling
"That," says LeBron, "is for everyone that watches me play. They witness something special. You're all a witness."
He probably thinks of himself as a genius
When all he does is make poor decision after poor decision. Although it depends what they get for Sessions. Knowing Kahn, probably a bunch of 1st rounders…
"Now, Maggette's one of those where when he catches, it's probably going to go up--Not to a teammate." --Jon McGlocklin, 11/14/09
by Jacob Grinyer on Jul 14, 2010 10:22 AM CDT up reply actions
Ramon Sessions vs Luke Ridnour
Bucks obviously won’t trade for Sessions if they won’t pay Ridnour the same contract as Sessions. Both $4mil/yr for at least the next 3 years, plus Ridnour is much more veteran savvy and consistent.
Why is Ridnour going to MN to play back-up PG to Flynn? or Rubio when he finally comes? I thought he was leaving Milwaukee because he wanted more minutes than MKE could offer.
Luke took the payday..... I'm sure he could care less about mpg
At his age, this was his last chance for a big payday, so he took the best offer….
You're right, it doesn't make sense from a basketball standpoint.
Maybe Minnesota liked the way Ridnour played with BJ and wanted someone like that for Flynn. I think this move is going to hurt Ridnour on the court. He had the ideal situation here in Milwaukee, aside from being able to start, and left.
by Brick's house on Jul 14, 2010 12:48 PM CDT up reply actions
Itching for a real rumor
Why haven’t I heard that the Bucks are event contacting guys? or what they are thinking about the back-up PG?
Miami Heat
I have to imagine guys desiring to play for the minimum are waiting to hear if Miami calls b4 they sign anything.
Yup - seems to me that JH will have to trade for BJs backup...
I don’t think Milw is even talking to ANY of the available FAs
Im pretty sure Hammonds keeps his cards close to his chest.....I mean the maggette trade came out of the blue pretty much
so when he ponces it’ll be a quick move ;)
"That," says LeBron, "is for everyone that watches me play. They witness something special. You're all a witness."
pounces that is...yikes...sorry :)
"That," says LeBron, "is for everyone that watches me play. They witness something special. You're all a witness."
Glad you clarified...
…you wouldn’t believe the brief image I conjured of JH ‘sashaying’ down Wisconsin Ave with Carson Kressley…aaaaahhhhhh!
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by Big Crazy Dave on Jul 15, 2010 1:25 AM CDT up reply actions
yes enough accusations of such behaviour being thrown around already last few days ;)
"That," says LeBron, "is for everyone that watches me play. They witness something special. You're all a witness."
Haha! By the way dude...
…that is an AWESOME profile pic! Couldn’t work out what it was until I enlarged it. Bloody classic! ;)
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by Big Crazy Dave on Jul 15, 2010 3:19 AM CDT up reply actions
inspired by recent events that have transpired ;)
there is always a silver lining apparently
"That," says LeBron, "is for everyone that watches me play. They witness something special. You're all a witness."
Would it be the first one that you've used...
…that doesn’t have the ‘BJ’ theme?
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by Big Crazy Dave on Jul 15, 2010 4:14 AM CDT up reply actions
I wouldnt think so Im not obsessed with Brandon :)
I was tempted to put a picture of Riewoldt up when he came back but i thought better ;)
"That," says LeBron, "is for everyone that watches me play. They witness something special. You're all a witness."
Didn't mean BJ3 in particular...
…just anything with initials B and J. (except Shotburglar of course!) Maybe I’ve just been deluding myself with perceived clever hidden meanings…
Yeah, dunno if anyone would really truly appreciate the significance of Riewoldt on here… ;)
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by Big Crazy Dave on Jul 15, 2010 5:48 AM CDT up reply actions
THen again...
…you could surmize that the Shotburglar is actually a Burglar of Jumpshots, which would make him a ‘BJ’ ;)
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by Big Crazy Dave on Jul 15, 2010 5:50 AM CDT up reply actions
haha thats pretty abstract.......
"That," says LeBron, "is for everyone that watches me play. They witness something special. You're all a witness."
Abstraction (Distraction?) is my middle name :)
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by Big Crazy Dave on Jul 15, 2010 6:45 AM CDT up reply actions
yeah I think the only one that has been on the radar with the Bucks has been Salmons tango...
even Gooden happened pretty quick
"That," says LeBron, "is for everyone that watches me play. They witness something special. You're all a witness."
True, Gooden was a rumor of Gooden's creation
The Bucks didn’t say anything and got it done, but nobody has been prying at them for it either during all of these interviews.
BTW
Shaun Livingston signed with the Charlotte Bobcats for 2yrs $7mil
good luck to the kid.....happy that he got some stability
"That," says LeBron, "is for everyone that watches me play. They witness something special. You're all a witness."
At least we can take solace in not being able to afford him
by Frank Madden on Jul 14, 2010 9:42 PM CDT up reply actions
yes when the Bobcats can outspend you well....you know we really have zip to spend on a back up pg
"That," says LeBron, "is for everyone that watches me play. They witness something special. You're all a witness."
I'm convinced he would've been a regular all-star if not for the knee....
People forget that he came direct from H.S. and was 6’7" w/ incredible vision & passing skills.
yeah had great court vision and skill......his shooting was always a work in progress.....
but injury wise he just couldnt get a chance to make it happen…..hopefully he can get some continuity and make a go as a part time starter/bench guy….he was fun to watch when he could get on the court
"That," says LeBron, "is for everyone that watches me play. They witness something special. You're all a witness."
He's signing with the team he had his knee injury against..
Cruel irony?
"Now, Maggette's one of those where when he catches, it's probably going to go up--Not to a teammate." --Jon McGlocklin, 11/14/09
by Jacob Grinyer on Jul 14, 2010 5:12 PM CDT up reply actions
Anyone else think we can get anyone we want from the T-Wolves as long as we throw in a 1st rounder?
I’d like to listen to a phone conversation between Hammond and Kahn during trade talks…Would be very comical
"Now, Maggette's one of those where when he catches, it's probably going to go up--Not to a teammate." --Jon McGlocklin, 11/14/09
Anthony Carter re-signs w/ the Nuggets for 1 yr
Scratch another off the list.
BTW – I apoligize for getting too worked up over a certain poster – from now on, I’ll just ignore posts that get under my skin….. regardless how ridiculous they may be.
And sorry for the drama yesterday : )
whats the deal with Acie Law? Is he a total bust?
he was first rounder a couple of seasons back which I know doesnt mean much…but obviously scouts and gm’s saw some skills back then……..is he a viable option as a back up pg…someone who has some talent that just needs an opportunity in a limited role where too much isnt asked of him?
or does he just suck?
"That," says LeBron, "is for everyone that watches me play. They witness something special. You're all a witness."
Delonte West?
Worth taking a chance? Not much risk.
I'm taking my talents to.......The Golden Arches!
thats whole other risk I think........obviously the guy has some personal issues he needs to sort out, and his legal issues
"That," says LeBron, "is for everyone that watches me play. They witness something special. You're all a witness."
If the guy finally sees the light
You got a pretty good talent on the cheap though.
I'm taking my talents to.......The Golden Arches!
anyway Im not sure its about him seeing the light his issues seem to run a bit deeper than that
"That," says LeBron, "is for everyone that watches me play. They witness something special. You're all a witness."
Well, he played it up until last year
But I agree he doesn’t really have point guard skills.
"Now, Maggette's one of those where when he catches, it's probably going to go up--Not to a teammate." --Jon McGlocklin, 11/14/09
by Jacob Grinyer on Jul 16, 2010 8:32 PM CDT up reply actions
Carlos Arroyo is kinda interesting.....again cant shoot much but his handle is okay and he is a decent back up
cant defend a lick so at least he can replace ridnour there ;)
plus he can add to our foreign legion
"That," says LeBron, "is for everyone that watches me play. They witness something special. You're all a witness."
Fun fact- Arroyo had the highest assist to turnover ratios in the league last year
More than Chris Paul, Deron Williams… Heh..
"Now, Maggette's one of those where when he catches, it's probably going to go up--Not to a teammate." --Jon McGlocklin, 11/14/09
by Jacob Grinyer on Jul 15, 2010 2:29 PM CDT up reply actions
Saw him in TO for a bit
Saw flashes of really great PG play, and a bit of the other.
I'm taking my talents to.......The Golden Arches!
Jason Williams was damn solid last year as a back up as well surprisngly....
and he can pop from the outside still which alot of the current back ups cant do
"That," says LeBron, "is for everyone that watches me play. They witness something special. You're all a witness."
Frank reckons he
Wants to stay in the Sunshine State, but I’d be down with that
I'm taking my talents to.......The Golden Arches!
sunshine state is Orlando? pardon my ignorance :)
Orlando signed Duhon as back up pg right?
"That," says LeBron, "is for everyone that watches me play. They witness something special. You're all a witness."
Florida :)
Miami and Orlando are both in Florida.
"Now, Maggette's one of those where when he catches, it's probably going to go up--Not to a teammate." --Jon McGlocklin, 11/14/09
by Jacob Grinyer on Jul 15, 2010 2:33 PM CDT up reply actions
haha ok thanks........hmm yeah Williams makes a ot of sense with his history in Miami
"That," says LeBron, "is for everyone that watches me play. They witness something special. You're all a witness."
well Miami will take anyone with a pulse that will play for the minimum right ;)
Orlando seems pretty full up roster wise
"That," says LeBron, "is for everyone that watches me play. They witness something special. You're all a witness."
actually Miami has done okay so far...curse them
Mike Miller, Haslem, Z, Juwan Howard if he signs
that a decent supporting cast really
"That," says LeBron, "is for everyone that watches me play. They witness something special. You're all a witness."
Yeah... until the nursing home calls the Heat and wants their patients back ; )
So far, the supporting cast in Miami is old!!
Especially Juwan Howard.
If he has to play a lot of minutes it won’t be very good for them.
"Now, Maggette's one of those where when he catches, it's probably going to go up--Not to a teammate." --Jon McGlocklin, 11/14/09
by Jacob Grinyer on Jul 15, 2010 2:40 PM CDT up reply actions
Never really cared either way for the Heat
Certainly my view has changed now
I'm taking my talents to.......The Golden Arches!
I prefer the great state of Intoxication...
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by Big Crazy Dave on Jul 16, 2010 10:44 PM CDT up reply actions
D West is a wingnut, IMO - and doesn't seem to be a Skiles/Hammond kind of guy.
Plus he was just sentenced to two yrs probation – so if he slips up, he ’d be gone. No thanks…. plus he might try to sleep w/ someone elses mom ; )
Hide Jennings from him...
And hide his mother…
"Now, Maggette's one of those where when he catches, it's probably going to go up--Not to a teammate." --Jon McGlocklin, 11/14/09
by Jacob Grinyer on Jul 15, 2010 2:30 PM CDT up reply actions
For the most part, he seems liked by teammates and coaches
His personal and legal problems are a big deal and kinda scary, but to his credit, he does seem to do a decent job of keeping them away from the court/locker room.
Unfortunately, I think he’s even less of a true PG than Mo Williams.
by richardhkirkando on Jul 16, 2010 8:17 AM CDT up reply actions
Head signed w/ N.O. last week for 2.5mil per for 2yrs
But the Hornets yanked the deal because of “medical reasons” – The suttlebutt is that they yanked it after they fired their GM because now they don’t want to pay.
I’m guessing he could be had for the BAE???
Weird.
Well, Head isn’t a terrible player by any stretch of the imagination. I’d be content with him. Not sure I would want him to see a ton of minutes though.
"Now, Maggette's one of those where when he catches, it's probably going to go up--Not to a teammate." --Jon McGlocklin, 11/14/09
by Jacob Grinyer on Jul 15, 2010 5:32 PM CDT up reply actions
He avg 17mpg last year, and put up decent numbers....
They could prob play him & BJ together, since he seems to be a bit of a “combo” guard
I think he’d be better than the remaining FAs available – [not counting Arroyo or J Williams, since they dont wanna leave Fla.]
He also shoots 39% on 3s...
Gotta like that : )
He's not the best passer, which could be a problem
But he’s been solid everywhere he’s been, and stats might suggest he’s been an okay defender as well. Yeah, I guess I would be okay with this. Do you have a link?
"Now, Maggette's one of those where when he catches, it's probably going to go up--Not to a teammate." --Jon McGlocklin, 11/14/09
Never mind, I found it.
"Now, Maggette's one of those where when he catches, it's probably going to go up--Not to a teammate." --Jon McGlocklin, 11/14/09
by Jacob Grinyer on Jul 15, 2010 5:57 PM CDT up reply actions
No problem, did some digging :)
"Now, Maggette's one of those where when he catches, it's probably going to go up--Not to a teammate." --Jon McGlocklin, 11/14/09
by Jacob Grinyer on Jul 15, 2010 5:58 PM CDT up reply actions
...Vandross...?
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by Big Crazy Dave on Jul 16, 2010 12:46 AM CDT up reply actions
I don't know but the name Luther
Conjures up images of sleazy used car salesmen for me. My aplogies to any used car salesman on this blog named Luther.
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Haha!
BTW, love your new tag line ;)
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by Big Crazy Dave on Jul 16, 2010 7:27 AM CDT up reply actions
Thanks
When I head that Al harrington used the same line as LBJ (with Mile High City instead of course) I wondered what would happen if LBJ’s followers started using the same line. So teenagers everywhere would be using my tag line.
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by CanadaBucks on Jul 16, 2010 11:38 AM CDT up reply actions
I always think of "Coach"
And I’m sorry, but I just don’t think we can compete with Jerry Van Dyke as our backup PG
by richardhkirkando on Jul 16, 2010 8:20 AM CDT up reply actions
And what would the headline be if we got Luther?
Bucks get Head?
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by CanadaBucks on Jul 16, 2010 11:40 AM CDT up reply actions
Bucks get cheap Head........
"That," says LeBron, "is for everyone that watches me play. They witness something special. You're all a witness."
Better
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by CanadaBucks on Jul 16, 2010 11:46 AM CDT up reply actions
just piggybacking your idea ;)
"That," says LeBron, "is for everyone that watches me play. They witness something special. You're all a witness."
Then when Jennings gets injured
Head replaces BJ?
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by CanadaBucks on Jul 16, 2010 11:47 AM CDT up reply actions
the potential is limitless....
"That," says LeBron, "is for everyone that watches me play. They witness something special. You're all a witness."
I gotta get out more often
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by CanadaBucks on Jul 16, 2010 11:49 AM CDT up reply actions
haha I had few more elaborate ones.....but I thought better
I do after all have my online reputation to maintain
"That," says LeBron, "is for everyone that watches me play. They witness something special. You're all a witness."
The headline of the Yahoo article is priceless
“Milwaukee seeking suddenly free Head” XD
"Now, Maggette's one of those where when he catches, it's probably going to go up--Not to a teammate." --Jon McGlocklin, 11/14/09
by Jacob Grinyer on Jul 16, 2010 12:27 PM CDT up reply actions
Or if we don't sign him
Bucks say no to free Head
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by CanadaBucks on Jul 16, 2010 12:34 PM CDT up reply actions
But like the other post says
He’s no PG, his stats shout SG.
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by CanadaBucks on Jul 16, 2010 12:36 PM CDT up reply actions
So he's basically Charlie Bell.
"Now, Maggette's one of those where when he catches, it's probably going to go up--Not to a teammate." --Jon McGlocklin, 11/14/09
by Jacob Grinyer on Jul 16, 2010 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, you're prob right
But there’s lots of undersized 2 guards that play the point…. and Skiles will let him know his role, forsure!
Last year
1.5 apg/1.2 tpg no thanks
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by CanadaBucks on Jul 16, 2010 12:41 PM CDT up reply actions
But who is running the show
When Jennings is out then? Who is getting the ball to Maggette?
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they will just run a set offense once they get into the halfcourt...
there aren’t many pg that can really create in the league in general and especially when you are looking at backups… they all usually have one solid skill otherwise they would be starting…
once they get in the halfcourt they will iso Maggette or run a set… the pg just needs to not turn the ball over, give effort on D, and hit open 3’s…
remember guys… this is a guy who will be playing 12 minutes a game
by Superelkman on Jul 16, 2010 10:29 PM CDT up reply actions
and at the end of the day...
what can you expect for the BAE???
A PG that can distribute?
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by CanadaBucks on Jul 16, 2010 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions
If he's the best we can get, fine.
He’s a very good outside shooter, but he’s more of an undersized SG than a point.
And Charlie Bell will always be the poster child for undersized SG’s for me.
"Now, Maggette's one of those where when he catches, it's probably going to go up--Not to a teammate." --Jon McGlocklin, 11/14/09
by Jacob Grinyer on Jul 16, 2010 12:44 PM CDT up reply actions
I agree..
But right now Earl Watson seems to be the cream of the crop as far as traditional PGs… and that ain’t sayin much.
Maybe Skiles can get LH to be more of a pure PG?
Think you're giving Skiles too much credit here
A player usually is what he is
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by CanadaBucks on Jul 16, 2010 12:50 PM CDT up reply actions
maybe... maybe not
Bogut has said repeatedly that Skiles was the difference in his play last year…. different scenario, but certain players can be formed to fit the system, IMO.
Besides, if LH became C Bell, Hammond will dump him quick!
But it's different
Using the talents you have within a system is one thing, but learnin new talents is something else. Luther has not shown himself to be a good distributor throughout his career, I would be surprised if Skiles could suddenly teach him that.
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by CanadaBucks on Jul 16, 2010 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions
OK... go get Diener....
and watch him get torched by sub-par players…
Seriously… who’s available at the BAE that would be good??? Not many, IMO.
It's not really out opinions that count though
Milwaukee will sign who they feel is the best available PG for the price. I am of the opinion that they would want more of a play-maker than a shooter that’s all.
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by CanadaBucks on Jul 16, 2010 12:49 PM CDT up reply actions
I hear ya...
But it would be a fun season listening to Pashke squirm everytime he had to say “Head” ; )
Would make for a good sqaud six chant, regardless
"Now, Maggette's one of those where when he catches, it's probably going to go up--Not to a teammate." --Jon McGlocklin, 11/14/09
by Jacob Grinyer on Jul 16, 2010 12:51 PM CDT up reply actions
We want Head?
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by CanadaBucks on Jul 16, 2010 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions
That was one of the funniest...
…off-topic run of posts I have ever read! ;)
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by Big Crazy Dave on Jul 16, 2010 6:01 PM CDT up reply actions
Did you see the pretend Marko posts the other night
Guy was posting like he was Marko I was in stitches
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No, don't recall...
…which thread was it on?
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by Big Crazy Dave on Jul 16, 2010 6:16 PM CDT up reply actions
Just saw this from a poster on Yahoo RE: Luther Head to Mil
17. Posted by Deepak N Fri Jul 16, 2010 10:43 am EDT Report Abuse
I bet Milwaukee wants some GAY (Rudy) LOVE (Kevin) SESSIONS (Ramon) to go along with the HEAD (Luthor)
Classic!
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by Big Crazy Dave on Jul 16, 2010 6:34 PM CDT up reply actions
hmm seems he is more of shooter than a facilitator..............
but people have been advocating for that type of back up combo guard so its an interesting one…..seems like a reasonable option
"That," says LeBron, "is for everyone that watches me play. They witness something special. You're all a witness."
Head & Shoulders above the rest.....?
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by Big Crazy Dave on Jul 16, 2010 12:48 AM CDT up reply actions
badaboom
"That," says LeBron, "is for everyone that watches me play. They witness something special. You're all a witness."
:)
I don’t think Victor got the gag…
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by Big Crazy Dave on Jul 16, 2010 1:23 AM CDT up reply actions
Arrgh!.. I can't believe I missed that!!... but I have been drinking...
Good one Dave ; )
Haha!
I wish I was drinking too ;)
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by Big Crazy Dave on Jul 16, 2010 2:21 AM CDT up reply actions
Of course!
What else would I do with my spare time? ;)
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by Big Crazy Dave on Jul 16, 2010 7:29 AM CDT up reply actions
I wouldn't go that far... but he has got good sze, exp, and is a good 3pt & FT shooter... and he's fairly young...
and he’d be afforadable….. besides, the FA pg scrap heap is slim-pickins, at this point
I guess I’d rather have LH over E Watson, but regardless…. the cupboard is prety bare, and they seem to be the best that’s left, IMO.
for what it’s worth… I just saw that Acie Law was a lottery pick…. so he had some talent, at some point…. he might be worth a look?
Always wondered to what happened to Acie Earl IV...
…I think he just got lost in the wilderness that is The Hawks…
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by Big Crazy Dave on Jul 16, 2010 1:22 AM CDT up reply actions
yeah thats what I figure....
most guys have some talent to get a chance in the NBA but what they get lost in the system especially if you end up on a team with poor management, and a coach who isnt interested in playing rookies who cant perform straight away………..in the right program with a specific role that doesnt expect too much of them they can be valuable role players
"That," says LeBron, "is for everyone that watches me play. They witness something special. You're all a witness."
It's just a shame that there doesn't seem to be enough good franchises/head coaches around...
…to get these types of players to the point where they are consistent and productive. I know that there is only so much talent that can be turned into a ‘superstar’, but there are some coaches/systems out there that seem to consistently take ‘busts’ or ‘rejects’ and manage to bring out the best in them. If you go back say 40 years, before the money became so MUCH and players (IMO anyway) were more humble and focused on being better players (as oppposed to being wealthier players), I betcha they were able to bring out the best in players because it was their prime focus.
Did any of that make sense? I’m not sure if I actually made my point clear (or what my original point was for that matter – too bad, not gonna retype that rant again!) ;)
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by Big Crazy Dave on Jul 16, 2010 2:28 AM CDT up reply actions
I think alot of it is to do with poor ownership....
guys that want to meddle in team matters to massage their ego and want to ‘run’ a sports team because thats just what they want to throw their money at for the cache….
if your a smart owner you hire people with excellent credentials and knowledge and let them get on with it……..
"That," says LeBron, "is for everyone that watches me play. They witness something special. You're all a witness."
also I suppose franchise expansion has diluted the talent pool of upper management
but really the Nets hiring a guy like Billy King is just nonsensical there are very decent understudies around the league who like Hammonds worked in a good environment and in a succesful organisation…..you cant beat that grounding I think
"That," says LeBron, "is for everyone that watches me play. They witness something special. You're all a witness."
Speaking of which, according to FanHouse the Suns are still looking at Weltman
Hopefully they don’t hire him….
"Now, Maggette's one of those where when he catches, it's probably going to go up--Not to a teammate." --Jon McGlocklin, 11/14/09
by Jacob Grinyer on Jul 16, 2010 9:43 AM CDT up reply actions
hmm from reports it seems Avery Johnson is running the Nets....
Billy King is just kinda figurehead GM not surprising that they couldnt land a more decent guy……that was strange they started off talking about trying lure a guy like Presti and end up with Billy King
not to mention the FA’s they managed to ‘snare’
"That," says LeBron, "is for everyone that watches me play. They witness something special. You're all a witness."
All these big contracts this summer aremaking people forget about Billy King's greatest hits
Perfect time for him to re-emerge…
by Frank Madden on Jul 17, 2010 3:45 PM CDT up reply actions
Avery Johnson, Billy King & Mikhail Prokhorov endless fortune........
a scorned Jay-Z………..the Nets are a must see next season……who cares what they put out on the court
how long do you figure it takes before Prokhorov realises he could school his newly signed back up C Petro in a pick up game
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Acie Earl, the center out of U. of Iowa, or Acie Law, the point guard?
by Brick's house on Jul 16, 2010 9:42 AM CDT up reply actions
Fact about Acie Earl
He held the Raptors all-time single game scoring record for a year or two at 40.
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by CanadaBucks on Jul 16, 2010 11:42 AM CDT up reply actions
AAAAgggghhhh!!!!!
Thanks Brick, meant to be Acie LAW the PG! Wow, amazing how I can mix up 2 guys that play complete opposite positions and were drafted 15 years apart based on the fact that they share the same first name!
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by Big Crazy Dave on Jul 16, 2010 6:05 PM CDT up reply actions
I think that's where he spent most of his time with the Rockets from memory.
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by Big Crazy Dave on Jul 16, 2010 1:24 AM CDT up reply actions
after seeing Scola's deal I think Gooden's deal looks better and better
I really like Scola and what he brings to the table but he is a couple of years older than Gooden their numbers are not that dissimilar, Scola is a bit more cluey on defence I guess and the rockets obviously value and rate what he brings but still Gooden looks decent value these days
"That," says LeBron, "is for everyone that watches me play. They witness something special. You're all a witness."
Uhuh!
Hammond ‘jumped the gun’ by grabbing him early? I don’t think so! Man, JH once again appears like he will exit this Free Agency period smelling more like Moet than Passion Pop (which is what a ton of GMs reek of at this point in time). And all these plaudits for Pat Riley getting The Three Amigos to Miami? Puuu-Leeeease! He did squat, except put some $$$ together! Wade, Bosh and Bron schemed this one themselves!
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by Big Crazy Dave on Jul 16, 2010 2:34 AM CDT up reply actions
yeah Gooden looks a decnt deal for sure......always been productive numbers wise
if Skiles can get him to focus enough on the basics we should be looking decent up front………Scola is a nice complimentary player no doubt but a $10 million a year player not really….still I suppose when guys like Amir Johnson and Tyrus Thomas are getting substantial deals for limited production…..at least with guys like Scola & Gooden you know what they will bring night in night out
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I think of LH like this - similar to Ridnour but less of a natural PG/passer
They’re both good shooters, but LH has better size & D…. he’ll also cost about half of what LR got.
I have faith that Skiles could get him to be a solid PG off the bench
I vote Jeremy Lin for our backup point.
Did anyone see him match up with John Wall:
http://nbaoffseason.com/post/819421951/jeremy-lin-eats-john-walls-lunch-brainworks
I know he is on the Dallas summer league team, but they have a full cupboard of guards with Kidd, Terry, Barea, Roddy B, and Dominique Jones.
I am only half serious about this, but that kid can ball.
Looks good, doesn't he?
I have a feeling DAL will try to find a spot for him, but if not…
by richardhkirkando on Jul 16, 2010 11:28 PM CDT up reply actions
Bulls throwing contracts everywhere
Lost out on Reddick now Ronnie Brewer
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that seems one of the better deals for me.......Brewer 3 yrs at $12 million
and a decent fit for Chicago…….seems they are recruiting the former Utah team ha Boozer, Korver now Brewer……but getting rid of Hinrich’s salary and replacing it with Brewer and Korver is reasonable…..I like Brewer alot as a value guy
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Back-up PG
I just think it’s too much to ask for the Bucks coaching staff to have to develop a rookie back-up PG and a sophomore starting PG at the same time with no veteran player assistance.
It’s probably not good for Jennings development to bring in a rook behind him. A few rooks look like they have potential (patty mills, jeremy lin), but the Bucks need a PG who needs less coaching IMO.
I've settled on my choice
and it is Mustafa Shakur. I thought he looked impressive in the D-League last year. He’s a real point guard, defense is NBA ready, and he’s a fantastic 3 point shooter.
Most importantly, he has the coolest name ever.
by richardhkirkando on Jul 16, 2010 11:43 PM CDT reply actions
Could give him the nickname 'Milk'...
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by Big Crazy Dave on Jul 17, 2010 12:04 AM CDT reply actions
I know.... ;)
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by Big Crazy Dave on Jul 18, 2010 4:10 AM CDT up reply actions
CJ Watson
I know you guys have been jamming on who the back-up point should be, any talk in here if Luther Head doesn’t stick about CJ Watson??
I have had a boner over him the last few weeks, 27.5 minutes per
10.9 ppg 2.8apg 2.6rpg 1.58 spg
Basically he is kinda that SG trapped in the PG body, a little younger, better Luther Head IMO
Check out his stats overall though, G.S refused to give him the 1.25 million qualifying offer, maybe they want to do a longer deal?
Think about baseball...it works.
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by CanadaBucks on Jul 17, 2010 12:30 PM CDT up reply actions
personally I like Head......try saying that with a straight face
"That," says LeBron, "is for everyone that watches me play. They witness something special. You're all a witness."
What about Crttenton
He’s a good shot and quick on the draw.
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another shoot first kinda guy eh
"That," says LeBron, "is for everyone that watches me play. They witness something special. You're all a witness."
I'll take CJ
He’s solid, which is more than you can say about 95% of the other guys still around
by Frank Madden on Jul 17, 2010 3:49 PM CDT up reply actions
elementary my dear Watson.....CJ or Earl will do at this stage of the game
want a bit more offense and a SG in PG role then its CJ
want a decent playmaker who cant shoot my name is Earl
"That," says LeBron, "is for everyone that watches me play. They witness something special. You're all a witness."
haha enough of the slapstick comedy ;)
anyway our ‘options’ are slowly slowly getting smaller…….I guess guys like Head, CJ Watson, Earl Watson are guys who can step and play a role straight away…they know the pro ropes and what it takes to play a 82 game season…..the ups and downs…..alot of the other unknown guys are a real punt basically 3rd stringers who would really have to have surprise to be a genuine back up…….cant see Hammonds taking that kinda risk after gaining so much depth in other positions this summer
"That," says LeBron, "is for everyone that watches me play. They witness something special. You're all a witness."
yeah it seems like a lot of people on here really like Head...
it seems like Head is all you can think and talk about…
actually I hope we dont sign him.....the pressure is too much
"That," says LeBron, "is for everyone that watches me play. They witness something special. You're all a witness."
Think all the teams looking for a back-up PG
Are waiting for someone tomove to “set’ the price”. All the players invloved want more than BAE or minimum if they can get so I think that’s why nothing much is happening. Once D-League is done you might see some action. And my last one………………….
Yue know Sun isn’t the answer
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haha nice agreed
"That," says LeBron, "is for everyone that watches me play. They witness something special. You're all a witness."
"Yue know when it's real"
Wendys.
"Now, Maggette's one of those where when he catches, it's probably going to go up--Not to a teammate." --Jon McGlocklin, 11/14/09
by Jacob Grinyer on Jul 17, 2010 6:08 PM CDT up reply actions
im actually throwing my weight behind Diener.....someone has to suck on this team
otherwise whats the point
"That," says LeBron, "is for everyone that watches me play. They witness something special. You're all a witness."
that "BOLD!" should be mine...
i have said for a while that we should pay Diener minimum money to suck and occasionally hit a 3
BOLD!
"That," says LeBron, "is for everyone that watches me play. They witness something special. You're all a witness."
We need someone to suck
So every one else looks good in comparison
"Now, Maggette's one of those where when he catches, it's probably going to go up--Not to a teammate." --Jon McGlocklin, 11/14/09
by Jacob Grinyer on Jul 17, 2010 6:09 PM CDT up reply actions
It's true though
Every team has the guy that rarely gets burn and the crowd goes nuts if he scores.
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#400 Wow, what better way to display Bucks fans concern over the backup point guard.
400 comments on our backup point guard thread, by far the most active Fanpost ever on Brewhoop.
Haha
Well, to be fair we had a lot of off topic stuff here as well.
"Now, Maggette's one of those where when he catches, it's probably going to go up--Not to a teammate." --Jon McGlocklin, 11/14/09
by Jacob Grinyer on Jul 17, 2010 7:59 PM CDT up reply actions
Us? Off topic?
Imagine how long this thread will get if we have to wait another month for a signing…
by Frank Madden on Jul 17, 2010 8:00 PM CDT up reply actions
No, your right, what was I thinking.
So, had any good meals lately?
"Now, Maggette's one of those where when he catches, it's probably going to go up--Not to a teammate." --Jon McGlocklin, 11/14/09
by Jacob Grinyer on Jul 17, 2010 9:13 PM CDT up reply actions
thai chili boneless chicken wings tonight....
where amazing happens in my belly…
by Superelkman on Jul 18, 2010 12:23 AM CDT up reply actions
boneless chicken wings arent really chicken wings in my humble opinion ;)
its unnatural
"That," says LeBron, "is for everyone that watches me play. They witness something special. You're all a witness."
I was thinking the same thing....Hammonds draws this out a bit longer
this could be massive-ier
"That," says LeBron, "is for everyone that watches me play. They witness something special. You're all a witness."
More nuggets of information...
http://www.journaltimes.com/sports/article_076ab1e0-9229-11df-8444-001cc4c03286.html
According to Woelfel, Gooden’s contract is fully guaranteed… But I’m keeping the hope alive. The Bucks are also supposedly looking at Earl Watson, who I think would be a great fit on this team. And Jeff Weltman might be the frontrunner for the Phoenix job.
"Now, Maggette's one of those where when he catches, it's probably going to go up--Not to a teammate." --Jon McGlocklin, 11/14/09
Out of the names listed
I would say Earl would be my first pick, veteran would be better IMO. No gratuitous Head joke though. As for Gooden’s contract, in the big picture does it really matter that much if the last year is fully guaranteed?
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Maybe not
But a little is better than nothing
"Now, Maggette's one of those where when he catches, it's probably going to go up--Not to a teammate." --Jon McGlocklin, 11/14/09
by Jacob Grinyer on Jul 18, 2010 10:09 AM CDT up reply actions
Earl Watson is a decent compromise.....its a safe move......I suppose for the Bucks who are built to win its the smart one
Im still down with a guy who has a few hidden talents that we can unearth….its a bit riskier no doubt……….
"That," says LeBron, "is for everyone that watches me play. They witness something special. You're all a witness."
Once Gooden emerges as the PF the teams has lacked for yrs, fans won't care about his deal
Nor should they…. it’s pretty modest in the big NBA picture, IMO.
Gooden is 28....has always produced solidly......
If we dont expect to much he will be a fine fit…….i like the combo of Bogut and Gooden its pretty solid in a weird kinda way………..before we were undersized up front now we have legit size and with Sanders some great athleticism so I think we are pretty set
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