What will LeBron James' exodus mean for Milwaukee?
The Bucks angle on LeBron James deserting Cleveland isn't exactly top of mind for the national media, but his decision to join the Heat (and stop holding the sports world hostage) finally allows us to step back and consider the New World Order of the Eastern Conference. One obvious result is that it moves the Bucks and every other playoff contender up a notch in the Eastern Conference pecking order. With the foundation of the defending Central Division champion Cavaliers utterly annihilated, the Bucks and Bulls by default become the presumptive favorites for the division title, which delivers the warm-fuzzies of a stadium banner and also provides practical benefits come playoff seeding time.
Certainly, James' decision to join Dwyane Wade and Chris Bosh also creates a potential long-term dynasty in South Florida, which isn't exactly good news for any team with ambitions of winning an NBA title in the next few years, particularly those residing in the East. But an up-and-coming team like the Bucks can also take solace in the damage it does to East rivals Cleveland and Toronto.
I have no doubt that the Bulls will get significantly more hype than the Bucks as the season approaches, an expected byproduct of their larger market and sexier (if still somewhat disappointing) offseason. Adding Carlos Boozer fills a major hole in the Bulls' lineup, while new coach Tom Thibodeau is considered one of the best defensive minds in the game. They don't scream title contender on paper yet, but they're headed in the right direction and might still remake their roster somewhat if they can add another shooter and possibly move Luol Deng. Still, all the posturing for cap room means they barely have a team beyond their starting five, a fact that's easy to overlook at a time of year when everyone is focused on big names.
Still, we all know the dark horse role suited the Bucks just fine a year ago, when they did in fact finish five games ahead of Chicago in the win column. The pressure in Milwaukee will be heightened--the playoffs are a must, and losing in the first round will be much tougher to swallow--but the Bucks are still likely to fly under the radar as experts confuse the dollar amounts spent on players like Joe Johnson and Amare Stoudemire with actual progress in Atlanta and New York.
With free agency still chugging along, I'd peg the Heat, Magic and Celtics as the East's likely upper-crust, with the Bucks joining Atlanta and Chicago as teams jostling for home court in the first round. And as we usually see every year, one of those teams will likely fall on its face due to injuries, coaching incompetence and other unforeseen circumstances. For instance, the Celtics looked ready to fall off a cliff in the second half of 09/10, yet improbably pulled things together in time for a near-championship run in the playoffs. Will they crank out another 50-win season with KG, Ray Allen and Paul Pierce one year closer to retirement, or will they finally fall back into the chasing pack? As for the Heat, their new triumvirate would seemingly guarantee 50 wins regardless of who else is around, but they still have zero depth up front, where Bosh has shown he needs bigger bodies next to him to succeed. Ask Bryan Colangelo in Toronto...actually, you might not want to rub it in right now. But hey, at least he's got $127 million worth of Andrea Bargnani, Amir Johnson and Hedo Turkoglu to work with.
For the Bucks, the most obvious concerns are the continued health and development of building blocks Andrew Bogut and Brandon Jennings. We're used to being nervous about Bogut's health, though the good news is that he doesn't need to dramatically improve to be one of the top five or six centers in basketball. He's already there. The opposite is true of Jennings, who didn't miss a game as a rookie but is still a major leap away from being one of basketball's best point guards. The tools are all there, and at 20-years-old, the prospects for improvement are bright. Which is good considering he's the only point guard on the roster at this point. Beyond that, the Bucks' increased depth on the wings and up front should make them better able to weather an injury to key players like Salmons, Maggette and Gooden.
And though the Bucks are a backup point guard away from being a fairly complete team, it may take longer for their true ceiling to come into focus. Fifty wins? Clearly possible, and some might even say expected given good health. I'll wait until we're closer to November before making that prediction, but I will go ahead and say this: basketball in MIlwaukee is finally fun again, so enjoy it while it lasts. Just ask Cleveland.
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I think it'll be close - but Milw should win a handful more games just due to their depth...
Bulls – 47 wins
Bucks – 50 wins
Sorry...to clarify, what are the chances he is traded before the year starts?
by brewcrew4eva on Jul 9, 2010 11:57 AM CDT up reply actions
I hear the Clippers are interested.
(this is a joke, but really, not)
Go Beer, I mean Bucks
by Take Back Our Bucks on Jul 9, 2010 12:46 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm becoming slightly suspicious
Hammond made it clear when the trade happened that they were keeping him, but it’s hard to say what’s been going on behind the scenes since then. Is Maggette displeased with the trade? Is he asking to be moved? Honestly nothing would surprise me. Should be interesting to watch, but until I hear more I’ll assume he’ll be in camp.
One other issue is that he’ll be tough to trade. Keep in mind he can’t be aggregated with other salaries in a trade until late August (2 months after he was traded), but he could be dealt in a package deal assuming it can be broken into multiple trades that each work on their own.
i ain't frank...
…but I think Maggette has skills the Bucks need, so I don’t think they got him to trade him. But… getting rid of Gadz and Bell may have been the biggest factor in the trade. And Maggette MAY NOT be the kind of team player and defender they might want. And Hammond will trade anyone if it improves the team. And CM’s contract likely impedes the Bucks a bit.
So… if another team has a high opinion of CM (higher than the league in general seems to have) a trade may happen. Although the fact that he apparently cannot be “aggregated” with other players in a trade may narrow options.
My vote, though, says this is a “mixed” player that Skiles/Hammond probably think they can make surprisingly productive.
I am all for Maggette on this Team.
It is odd that he hasn’t had a presser yet, but he is going to play very well, especially with the second unit.
He will be the new Klaus Daimler (Leader of the B squad)
I don’t think it will make any difference with the amount of money he makes. Skiles will use him in the role that he sees fit, and that is Scoring big on second unit scrubs.
Go Beer, I mean Bucks
by Take Back Our Bucks on Jul 9, 2010 12:49 PM CDT reply actions
Maggette
Maggette is probably one of the best “almost an all star but not quite” players in the league. Not interested in trading him unless I hear the return value.
I think the Bucks will win the division but it will be very close. If Rose becomes a superstar next year than maybe not.
"Now, Maggette's one of those where when he catches, it's probably going to go up--Not to a teammate." --Jon McGlocklin, 11/14/09
Thibodeau will need to get Rose to play better D...
…for him to be a superstar.
Squad Six is to the Bucks what beer is to Milwaukee (or anywhere else for that matter)... the catalyst for you doing dumb things in public and not feeling self-conscious!
by Big Crazy Dave on Jul 9, 2010 5:55 PM CDT up reply actions
Well at least we got an interview with Hammond about him
Hammond and Maggette’s families are very close.
"Now, Maggette's one of those where when he catches, it's probably going to go up--Not to a teammate." --Jon McGlocklin, 11/14/09
by Jacob Grinyer on Jul 9, 2010 1:03 PM CDT up reply actions
I predict turmoil with the new Big Three
It’s inevitable, and will be oh-so-sweet to devour.
Lebron James is a creation of our time, of those who do not think that working hard towards a goal is itself fruitful and worthy. It’s the Gen Y dictum, the one that claims that everything your parents worked hard for, should be handed to YOU without earn, or sweat, or effort. All these sudden millionaires have become spoiled, but James, with his phony spectacle last night, made it an art form.
Lebron james is a creation of the NBA’s obession with the “individual” and not the team.
This will backfire my friends, you can quote me on that.
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"Now, Maggette's one of those where when he catches, it's probably going to go up--Not to a teammate." --Jon McGlocklin, 11/14/09
by Jacob Grinyer on Jul 9, 2010 1:17 PM CDT up reply actions
Sure it has
For some reason, to me, this had a different vibe to it. Maybe it was because there was an entire ESPN show about it. That network is so full of themselves too, that with every event, they seem to pump up the hype and self-serving fuel that much more. I also thought it was distasteful to merge his announcement with the Boys and Girls Club thing. That isn’t to say that he has not done good things for them. It just felt exploitive to have a bunch of kids sitting there.
I concur
Squad Six is to the Bucks what beer is to Milwaukee (or anywhere else for that matter)... the catalyst for you doing dumb things in public and not feeling self-conscious!
by Big Crazy Dave on Jul 9, 2010 5:56 PM CDT up reply actions
Hammond spoke with Doug & Mike this morning on 1250AM
Hammond said that there has been no media day with Maggette as of yet because he had a problem with his physical. Said it required a minor arthroscopic procedure and “will be 100%” at the beginning of the year. In other words the man had some kind of surgery.
Bone chip removal
It’s nothing major, routine for athletes. Unless it was more than that.
"Now, Maggette's one of those where when he catches, it's probably going to go up--Not to a teammate." --Jon McGlocklin, 11/14/09
by Jacob Grinyer on Jul 9, 2010 1:50 PM CDT up reply actions
No, they took the ones from his ankle and added them to his shoulder
by Frank Madden on Jul 9, 2010 2:25 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah, they removed the "ballhog" identity from him ;)
Just for you.
"Now, Maggette's one of those where when he catches, it's probably going to go up--Not to a teammate." --Jon McGlocklin, 11/14/09
by Jacob Grinyer on Jul 9, 2010 2:43 PM CDT up reply actions
Im actually upset that we might not have Maggette now...I talked myself into the 6th man of the year
a little bit of Skiles/Maggette rivalry and some very good bench scoring….
Mag's
I am sorry, despite what Hammond says on 540, 1250, the underlying issue is the fact that Hammond is trying to cover up his own decision.Maggette does not want to be here, and they do not wanna leak that info for nothing. Because the decision for this trade would fall completely on Hammond, and become a distraction in the media and in training camp. A bone spur surgery does not make you immobile, he could have had a boot on talking to the media here in Milwaukee, they don’t want CM saying a word until they either make a deal that sends him somewhere other than here first if they can’t work a trade. They are not announcing him, they are not making mention of him in the presser with Salmons and Gooden. The Bucks are deflecting questions by not having a MAJOR televised press conference where the news groups could only broadcast little bytes of the actual presser. Mags is a problem right now!
It’s the only hypothesis I have!
by Marko Schmidt on Jul 9, 2010 3:17 PM CDT up reply actions
Speculation
If a contract is pending a physical examination, this is SOP. Besides, if Maggette was unhappy about the trade, don’t you think we would had heard something from him by now? Your hypotheses is plausible, but I am not sticking my hat on it until we know for sure.
I guess that's why it's a hypothesis ;)
Squad Six is to the Bucks what beer is to Milwaukee (or anywhere else for that matter)... the catalyst for you doing dumb things in public and not feeling self-conscious!
by Big Crazy Dave on Jul 9, 2010 5:59 PM CDT up reply actions
....divided by the square root of pie
"Now, Maggette's one of those where when he catches, it's probably going to go up--Not to a teammate." --Jon McGlocklin, 11/14/09
by Jacob Grinyer on Jul 9, 2010 2:41 PM CDT up reply actions
Shhhh....Tiny might hear you say 'pie'....
Squad Six is to the Bucks what beer is to Milwaukee (or anywhere else for that matter)... the catalyst for you doing dumb things in public and not feeling self-conscious!
by Big Crazy Dave on Jul 9, 2010 5:59 PM CDT up reply actions
Lock your windows!
"Now, Maggette's one of those where when he catches, it's probably going to go up--Not to a teammate." --Jon McGlocklin, 11/14/09
by Jacob Grinyer on Jul 9, 2010 6:00 PM CDT up reply actions
Haha!
Squad Six is to the Bucks what beer is to Milwaukee (or anywhere else for that matter)... the catalyst for you doing dumb things in public and not feeling self-conscious!
by Big Crazy Dave on Jul 9, 2010 6:26 PM CDT up reply actions
Seriously tho...
…don’t get the wrong idea about my feelings on Tiny. I’m glad he’s with the Bucks, all this teasing about his weight/eating is done through ‘affection’, not malice.
For once, I’m actually not being sarcastic.
Squad Six is to the Bucks what beer is to Milwaukee (or anywhere else for that matter)... the catalyst for you doing dumb things in public and not feeling self-conscious!
by Big Crazy Dave on Jul 9, 2010 6:28 PM CDT up reply actions
We all love Tiny
Who cares if he might want to start a fight with us after reading these comments? ;)
"Now, Maggette's one of those where when he catches, it's probably going to go up--Not to a teammate." --Jon McGlocklin, 11/14/09
by Jacob Grinyer on Jul 9, 2010 6:30 PM CDT up reply actions
More chance you end up in a 'Ten' Gallon head-lock than me Speedy...
…unless he decides to come to Oz on holiday… ;)
Squad Six is to the Bucks what beer is to Milwaukee (or anywhere else for that matter)... the catalyst for you doing dumb things in public and not feeling self-conscious!
by Big Crazy Dave on Jul 9, 2010 6:44 PM CDT up reply actions
Hahahaha!
Squad Six is to the Bucks what beer is to Milwaukee (or anywhere else for that matter)... the catalyst for you doing dumb things in public and not feeling self-conscious!
by Big Crazy Dave on Jul 10, 2010 12:31 AM CDT up reply actions
I see you got the email I sent you ;)
Squad Six is to the Bucks what beer is to Milwaukee (or anywhere else for that matter)... the catalyst for you doing dumb things in public and not feeling self-conscious!
by Big Crazy Dave on Jul 10, 2010 5:17 PM CDT up reply actions
yes cheers...Ill put that to good uses
"That," says LeBron, "is for everyone that watches me play. They witness something special. You're all a witness."
surely he isnt that upset about his forced divorce from Nelson.....
I think it could be Nelson let him get his numbers, not have to be accountable on defense and W never mattered….now he has to go play on a proper team with a real coach…what a bummer

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