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Bucks preseason schedule, Jennings in Taiwan, early East outlook

There's some Jennings footage in here somewhere

Bucks.com: Preseason kicks off October 5 vs. Chicago
The Bucks and Bulls figure to be the front-runners for the Central, so the rivalry might as well start early, right? That's what the schedule-makers must be thinking as the Bulls will make their way up I-94 for the preseason opener at the Bradley Center on October 5--just two agonizingly long months away. The Bucks split a pair of preseason matchups with Chicago last year

The Bucks will play two other games in-state, against Charlotte at the Resch Center in Green Bay October 9 and the MACC Fund game against Minnesota serving as the preseason finale on Friday, October 22. In between the bookend games at the BC, the Bucks will have another five games on the road against Detroit, Washington, Memphis, Minnesota and Cleveland.  

NBA.com: Brandon Jennings Takes China
It looks like Brandon Jennings had plenty of fun touring the Far East--even if he didn't always remember where he was.  

Star-divide

Reed: Delfino vs. the world
Not every Carlos Delfino story comes courtesy of our man Palomba. Just most of them. Today, we've got a nice piece from Truman Reed on Carlitos' basketball education in Argentina. Oh, and he's tweeting now, too.  

Oh, and how sweet is it that he's Carlos Delfino THE FIFTH?  

Thomsen: East's top contenders
Ian Thomsen profiles the East's top six teams, including your Milwaukee Bucks:

Point guard Brandon Jennings will have more passing options between newcomers Corey Maggette (who gives them a newfound presence at the free-throw line) and Drew Gooden (a versatile scorer and reliable rebounder) and a full year each from John Salmons and Andrew Bogut (health permitting). Jennings and Ersan Ilyasova figure to keep improving, and if coach Scott Skiles can wring production from Chris Douglas-Roberts and rookie power forward Larry Sanders, then this will be a deep and well-balanced team.

Pelton: A Matter of Length
Kevin Pelton provides some great perspective on free agent spending:

Looking over all the data, it appears the sweet spot for free-agent contracts is about three years. Past this, the risk escalates quickly. Predicting performance next season is hard enough, so trying to figure out what a player will be like five years down the line (or even whether they'll be healthy then) is nigh impossible. For stars, that risk is an acceptable part of acquiring an elite talent. Among the NBA's middle class, it's difficult to justify going much more than three years. A four-year deal can be justified because the expiring contract becomes valuable as a trade asset the last year, but five-year deals to marginal talents simply aren't worth it.

Not exactly what Bucks fans will want to hear after John Salmons and Drew Gooden landed $65 million in guaranteed money, but hardly surprising. The front-end might be solid value, but I wouldn't be the first person to suggest it's the back-end of those deals that look the diciest, particularly given Salmons is already 30 and Gooden will be on 29 when camp kicks off. 

I don't think the Bucks are naive about it either. Go back to all the Bucks' press conferences this summer and watch John Hammond underscore time and again their determination to get better and "not take a step back." To me it almost sounded like a disclaimer: "We wouldn't normally do this, but...well, gotta spend money to make money, right?" Let's hope so.

Bucksketball: Trader John
Jeremy looks at how Hammond's frequent dealing has helped turn the Bucks around.

 

ESPN Future Rankings: Bucks 18th
I can't say 18th is much to be excited about, but on the bright side it's 11 spots higher than the Bucks were ranked a year ago. Then again, I won't worry too much about a rating system that claims the Knicks have better players than the Bucks (200-180 in their arbitrary point system). 

The moves weren't entirely helpful for the long run. The Bucks overpaid Gooden and perhaps Salmons too, and they gave up future cap space to get Maggette.

But the Bucks look like a team that could be quite competitive in future seasons if things fall into place -- and if Jennings and Bogut continue to improve, they could be downright dangerous.

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18th?!?!

i dont understand how they are ranked 18….

didnt they make the playoffs last year? so without a doubt should be at least in top 16, if they were the 8 seed last year…but they were the 6th, sooo imo they at least should be 14th…but also gotta factor in cavs lost lbj, so 13th

but then u gotta factor in they kept their entire team besides ridnour… but added corey and cdr and might have had the steal of the draft with sanders…

so i think top 12 or top 10 easily!! but then again whats 6 to 8 spots?! guess i love the bucks too much!

by mOraVeC33 on Aug 3, 2010 10:47 PM CDT reply actions  

ESPN dogs the small market again.

I guess I can understand if they aren’t a huge fan of the offseason moves, but how could we regress in this offseason? If nothing else, we are clearly better than the Cavs this year, and I guess if you want to put the bulls ahead of us, we remain in the 6th spot in the east. Obviously I think the bucks are primed for a better finish than that (fighting for the 4 seed IMO), but ESPN has some rando just writing stuff and wondering where Milwaukee is on a map. Wisconsin? They play bball there?

by rulesofredd on Aug 3, 2010 10:58 PM CDT reply actions  

Hollinger

I stand corrected – apparently Hollinger helped writing this article. Didn’t he just get finished saying he liked the bucks moves and thought they were a solid value? Chad Ford must really hate the bucks.

by rulesofredd on Aug 3, 2010 11:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

They base it off of a rating system

So I don’t think it’s necessary small market bias.

"Now, Maggette's one of those where when he catches, it's probably going to go up--Not to a teammate." --Jon McGlocklin, 11/14/09

by Jacob Grinyer on Aug 4, 2010 8:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

The Bucks

Always gotta prove somebody wrong. I guess its good to be the underdog sometime.

by FearTheDeer on Aug 4, 2010 8:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

RE: The 4th and 5th years of Gooden and Salmons contracts

nobody is gonna care that the back end of the contracts are dicey if we make some deep playoff runs in the first 3 years. If we don’t do anything in the playoffs we will be worrying about the front ends of those contracts too. .

"I agree but dont agree"

by juggernaut400 on Aug 4, 2010 12:38 AM CDT reply actions  

I agree

If the Bucks win 50 games and a playoff series – and Salmons & DG are contributors – their contracts will be viewed as good.

Same w/ Maggette, considering the junk we gave up for him.

by victor s on Aug 4, 2010 12:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

I suspect

that Hammonds is working off the assumption that when it gets right down to it, years 4 and 5 for both Salmons and Gooden will be tradeable resources – serviceable veteran bench players that might be enticing for a playoff team looking to make a push, or for a team looking to dump salary to retool. If so, it’s a bit of a gamble, but that $7ish million salary might be the “baby bear” size for other GMs to consider making a move without too much long-term risk.

by swilldog on Aug 4, 2010 9:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yep

Otherwise the Gooden/Salmons would be $71 million guaranteed.

by Frank Madden on Aug 4, 2010 7:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

I nearly had a heart palpatation just reading that ;)

"That," says LeBron, "is for everyone that watches me play. They witness something special. You're all a witness."

by ILIKEBJ'S on Aug 4, 2010 12:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

Uh, how much are we paying Bogut and the OTHER guys on the court?

And what’s the luxury tax going to be in 2015?

My kingdom for a spellchecker. Or Devin Harris. Hopefully both.
Fire KP! He forgot to turn off injuries in dynasty mode. - by Norsktroll on BlazersEdge

by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Aug 4, 2010 10:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

Just looked at our roster

And it seems like we have a solid young core that could Mature together. Jennings (20), Sanders (21), Brockman (21), Ilyasova (23), CDR (23), LRMAM (23) and Bogut (25) could complement each other quite nicely in a few years. We seem to have a win now, plan for the future philosophy with a number of old by NBA standards veterans preparing to make a playoff run. The problem is that the young guys are here on cheap short term deals (sans Bogut), while the veterans are locked up for years.

by MadTown Hoops on Aug 4, 2010 3:29 AM CDT reply actions  

They're not *that* short

I agree that you’d rather have Ersan and Luc signed to cheap five year deals than Gooden/Salmons on the same length at considerably longer, but at least Bogut/Jennings both have effectively four more years left on their deals before they can leave (Jennings has three + QO) . If nothing changes (obviously it will), Maggette’s deal would come off the books when Jennings’ extension would start, which would also be the last year of Bogut’s current deal.

Also, Sham Sports now has the Jon Brockman deal being worth a flat $1 million annually, so I’ll probably do a caponomics post soon on the long-term cap situation now that we know what everyone’s getting (Hobson and Gallon aren’t signed but can’t get more than two year min-level deals).

by Frank Madden on Aug 4, 2010 8:02 AM CDT up reply actions  

there is no way Hammond hasnt gone through all this in his thinking.......

so Im going to trust in the great checked shirt genius and believe that he took on some contracts for the short term production to support Bogut/Jennings/Sanders base he has put together….its kinda like Bogut’s extension it was a bit of a leap of faith but there was definite plan to evolve into something more……..

if we get solid production from Gooden/Maggette/Salmons for a couple of seasons great, it will help ensure we dont take a step back, also Hammond has showed he is willing to make the most of his assets to step it up when it counts and he has plenty to work with, guys like Brockman, CDR, Luc, Delfino, Ersan kinda balance out the more experienced expensive guys….there is plenty to work with in terms of making moves

"That," says LeBron, "is for everyone that watches me play. They witness something special. You're all a witness."

by ILIKEBJ'S on Aug 4, 2010 12:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

I didn't knew that Carlitos was the fifth Carlos in his family.

Funny thing. Such as BJ forgetting he’s in China. By the way, his presence there should carry some attention to the Bucks. Just for being Yao’s teammate, Scola and Argentina National Team have a lot of fans there and some good sponsors as well.

by palomba on Aug 4, 2010 10:09 AM CDT reply actions  

You can never have enough Carlitos!

"Now, Maggette's one of those where when he catches, it's probably going to go up--Not to a teammate." --Jon McGlocklin, 11/14/09

by Jacob Grinyer on Aug 4, 2010 9:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sick of the national media....

They will all try to jump on the Bucks bandwagon when this team is rolling! 18th is a joke. Bogut and Jennings aren’t getting the cred they deserve as big time players.

by puremisery on Aug 4, 2010 12:22 PM CDT reply actions  

the thing is the national media look at the immediate impact of moves and the names and basic stats

they see guys like Gooden/Maggette poster boys for production without real impact, but much like the moves of not signing and bringing back Sessions/Charlie V and trading away Jefferson in a salary dump, then signing Warrick on a bargain deal, Hammond is thinking 5 steps ahead

"That," says LeBron, "is for everyone that watches me play. They witness something special. You're all a witness."

by ILIKEBJ'S on Aug 4, 2010 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

National media puts less effort into teams like the Bucks

None of those guys put equal, objective efforts into their analysis. They go with the wind, like everyone else. Plus, they have predicted good things for the Bulls for 2-3 years now; this is a way to cover their asses. Bias just litters these rankings and prognostications, always have.

by tommyr on Aug 4, 2010 1:51 PM CDT reply actions  

Funny how Jennings spent another summer balling with Amir Johnson.

Last year in Vegas and this summer in China, next year, the moon! Where everyone has a great floater.

by Brick's house on Aug 4, 2010 9:04 PM CDT reply actions  

Budump Bump

"Now, Maggette's one of those where when he catches, it's probably going to go up--Not to a teammate." --Jon McGlocklin, 11/14/09

by Jacob Grinyer on Aug 4, 2010 9:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

Except Willzyx

Maybe he should play first base instead. That is, he should lie out there and we can step on him when we get a hit.

by TheJay on Aug 4, 2010 10:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

On another note

Keyon Dooling seems like a great guy.

http://www.nba.com/bucks/video/2010/08/04/doolingpress100804-1386723/index.html

I’m glad we brought him in.

"Now, Maggette's one of those where when he catches, it's probably going to go up--Not to a teammate." --Jon McGlocklin, 11/14/09

by Jacob Grinyer on Aug 4, 2010 9:54 PM CDT reply actions  

he sells a good story

"That," says LeBron, "is for everyone that watches me play. They witness something special. You're all a witness."

by ILIKEBJ'S on Aug 5, 2010 3:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

Jennings didn't get randomly punched by a maddened Taiwanese government official, did he?

My kingdom for a spellchecker. Or Devin Harris. Hopefully both.
Fire KP! He forgot to turn off injuries in dynasty mode. - by Norsktroll on BlazersEdge

by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Aug 4, 2010 10:53 PM CDT reply actions  

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