NBA Free Agency 2011: Nuggets Extend An Offer Sheet To Bucks' Defensive Specialist Luc Mbah a Moute
by Steve von Horn on Dec 10, 2011 12:16 PM CST
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The Denver Nuggets have extended a four-year, $19 million offer sheet to restricted free agent forward Luc Mbah a Moute, according to Benjamin Hochman of the Denver Post. As a restricted free agent, the Milwaukee Bucks have three days to match the offer sheet presented by the Nuggets. If they do not, Mbah a Moute would become a Nugget. Things will develop fairly quickly with this one.
The Bucks have the ability to match the offer to retain their own player, even if it puts them over the salary cap, but a four-year, $19 million offer sheet that is roughly mid-level exception level may prove to rich for the Bucks' blood.
Mbah a Moute is widely known around the NBA as a skilled defensive specialist, excelling as a matchup defender on the perimeter to accentuate his excellent foot speed and defensive anticipation. Although he has yet to be named to an NBA All-Defensive team, there is a very real possibility he could reach that honor within the course of the next four seasons. The biggest deficiency in his game is perimeter offense. He averaged only 6.7 points and 5.3 rebounds in 2010-11 for the Bucks, and has a shooting range that doesn't reasonably extend beyond 15 feet from the basket.
Then again, the Nuggets aren't looking for offense from Mbah a Moute. Head coach George Karl recently said the Nuggets are more focused on a plan to "build our offense off of being a good defensive team," so this move would fit that plan. Even more so if the Nuggets lose their own matchup defender, Arron Afflalo, who is being pursued by multiple teams through restricted free agency as well.
Will the Bucks match the offer? Should they match the offer? Discuss.
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If they match...
I for one will look at the roster and think it’s still unbalanced at the bigs.
Does the signing cost them the MLE???
it won't.
But with the Dunleavy signing the Bucks either (a) used up a portion of the full MLE, or (b) renounced the MLE. The mention of MLE has more to do with Denver’s end of things and the general size of the offer.
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by Steve von Horn on Dec 10, 2011 12:42 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
If it works...
…and we still have roughly 2.5 cap for a b-up C, I’d rather:
A. Have Moute than Ersan
B. Have a respectable b-up C than Jon Leuer
Both of those seem to make us stronger. But Moute instead of a b-up C probably makes us weaker.
Re Pryz
Yah, that’s OT here. But I read that he plans to spend the holidays with his family (in Milw, I think). And go back to the game after the holidays. The poster seemed to think that was a turn away from us. Don’t see it that way.
He’d only miss a few games. And he and Hammond may have a Hobson. (casual agreement) Pryz gets to see if any team offers him a fatter contract. The Bucks get to see what opportunities present themselves as teams trim down and use amnesty. If neither gets action elsewhere, Pryz joins us for the lion’s share of the season at a budget price.
Works for me.
I know there's two schools of thought here
And I’m in the camp that says"5m a year for a role player is too much" thanks for your time here Luc all the best in Denver.
"He always plays like he's a pit bull that hasn't been fed in about a year and that you've got pork chops in your pockets and that's the basketball." Of course, he's Canadian
Reasonable
My school evaluates Moute’s potential as a very good role player and/or decent starter — probably worth 4.75/yr — IF he wants to be here.
Badgers on now. BTN.
Can anyone confirm the rumour
That Nene Hilario, a career 12 and 7 guy, has been offered a 4y 64m contract by the Nets? smh
"He always plays like he's a pit bull that hasn't been fed in about a year and that you've got pork chops in your pockets and that's the basketball." Of course, he's Canadian
http://denver.sbnation.com/denver-nuggets/2011/12/10/2625934/nene-new-jersey-nets-nba-free-agency-2011/in/2364012
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by Steve von Horn on Dec 10, 2011 2:00 PM CST up reply actions
Ya that's where I saw it
"He always plays like he's a pit bull that hasn't been fed in about a year and that you've got pork chops in your pockets and that's the basketball." Of course, he's Canadian
I wrote that!
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by Steve von Horn on Dec 10, 2011 2:09 PM CST up reply actions
My thoughts
Contract wise, this is just a bit cheaper than I would have guessed. I expected somebody to offer Luc the full MLE, even if that seemed like an overpayment. I just figured some team would be sufficiently enticed by his defense to throw a full exception Luc’s way, assuming they weren’t looking to address some other need with that money.
More than the money concerns, I think Milwaukee needs to decide what role Luc is going to play on this team now and in the future before they decide to match this offer. It’s one thing when the guy is making under a million; when he’s making almost 5, he’s gotta have a clear spot in the rotation. I mentioned recently that Luc’s complaining about “inconsistent minutes” seemed a bit strange considering how many minutes he played, but I can understand if he feels he’s constantly playing out of position or not filling the right role. Still, Tobias Harris fits the same tweener-forward role, so keeping Luc means Harris’ involvement is capped for the near future.
It’s a really tough decision. While I’m obviously a big fan of Mbah a Moute, I think the team could be better off in the long run if they let him leave and fill out the team (both money and minute-wise) with a new combination of players. I’ll be sad to see him go, though, and I can’t help but feel that he’ll leave without fulfilling his full potential.
My thoughts exactly: this offer sheet will help determine the Bucks' new identity
With LRMAM, Bogut, and Jennings (yes, he’s a decent positional defender), the Bucks were a top-5 defense who regularly made opposing offenses stall out. But look at the rest of the pieces and see what you think:
Ersan – Good defender, but wants out and just may get it
Sanders – Potentially good defender, but ridiculously raw
Delfino – Average defender, starting to get a bit old
Jackson – Same as Delfino, better athlete
Dunleavy Jr. – He understands the concept of team defense, but he physically cannot defend very well
Harris/Leuer/Hobson – rookies, who knows?
Udrih/Gooden – offense-first, defense-last
Livingston – an interesting matchup because of his size, but I can’t imagine he’s a shutdown player
Losing LRMAM will turn this team from a defensive stalwart to a more balanced group. Skiles will not be able to rely on his inside-out shutdown duo of Bogut/Moute, so he’ll have to coordinate a more team-oriented defensive scheme. Let’s look at our prospective lineups (minus Ersan, who again wants out of Milwaukee):
STARTERS: Jennings, Jackson, Delfino, Gooden, Bogut
BENCH: Livingston, Udrih, Dunleavy Jr, Harris (?), Sanders
Depending on rotations and situational lineups, there will never be more than three players on the court who can be considered “good” defenders, and that’s even assuming that Sanders will have learned how to not foul once every two minutes. However, the offensive skill sets are much more varied, between the shooting of Delfino/Dunleavy, the low post duo of Bogut and Gooden, the versatility of Captain Jack, the efficiency of Udrih, and whatever Jennings decides to bring to the table on any given night.
Love Luc Richard Mbah a Moute, and I hope that things work out for him either way, but I have to agree with Dan that letting him go to Denver might not be the worst strategic decision.
http://twitter.com/WhalesLarry ...but only if you want to see someone still trying to figure Twitter out.
by Mitchell Maurer on Dec 10, 2011 2:07 PM CST up reply actions
I think Luc's role is clear
He’s our defensive specialist. That very particular role comes with some variation by specific position.
Different question: Does he make the Nuggets better?
http://twitter.com/WhalesLarry ...but only if you want to see someone still trying to figure Twitter out.
by Mitchell Maurer on Dec 10, 2011 2:07 PM CST reply actions
Yes
They won’t have Kenyon or Chandler this year so they will need a PF/SF badly.
Another back-up Centre off the board
The raps have signed Jamaal magliore……Try not to go near any open windows
"He always plays like he's a pit bull that hasn't been fed in about a year and that you've got pork chops in your pockets and that's the basketball." Of course, he's Canadian
This should be an easy match
We’re in good shape if we can make our roster look like:
Jennings, Udrih, Livingston
Jackson
Delfino, Dunleavy, Harris, Hobson
Luc, Gooden, Sanders, Leuer
Bogut, 2nd 7’ C, 3rd 7’ C
Meaning Ersan and Brockman should be sent along with our 2013 and 2014 2nd round pick to somebody for Albert Miralles.
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