Timberwolves vs. Bucks Preview: Ricky Rubio Out As Minnesota Looks For Encore In Milwaukee
by Frank Madden on Dec 21, 2011 12:00 PM CST
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| 2010/2011 NBA Season | ||
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| 0-1 (0-0 home) | 1-0 (0-0 road) |
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| December 21, 2011 | ||
| Bradley Center | ||
| 7:00 PM CT | ||
| Radio: 620 WTMJ TV: FSN Wisconsin |
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| Probable starters: | ||
| Brandon Jennings |
PG |
Luke Ridnour |
| Carlos Delfino | SG | Wayne Ellington |
| Mike Dunleavy | SF | Michael Beasley |
| Luc Mbah a Moute | PF | Kevin Love |
| Andrew Bogut | C | Nikola Pekovic |
| (30th) 101.6 - OFFENSE - 104.1 (24th) |
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| (4th) 102.5 - DEFENSE - 111.2 (27th) |
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| (25th) 89.8 - PACE - 96.5 (1st) | ||
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The Minnesota Timberwolves and Milwaukee Bucks conclude their home-and-home preseason series at the Bradley Center, with Andrew Bogut and Brandon Jennings hoping to bounce back from their 117-96 loss to Kevin Love, Ricky Rubio and Derrick Williams last Saturday. Rick Adelman is expected to rest both Rubio (ankle) and fellow point guard J.J. Barea (thigh bruise) ahead of the team's season opener next Monday.
Tickets are still available and proceeds go to a terrific cause: The MACC Fund. Hit the link to see Bucks players making their annual visit to Children's Hospital earlier this week.
New Jax City. Following a Monday trip to New York for a doctor's visit, Stephen Jackson had an epidural shot on Tuesday and is hoping to play on Wednesday--though he'll first have to convince Scott Skiles he's ready. Barring a setback, Jackson fully expects to be in the Bucks' lineup for the opener against his former employer in Charlotte, but there's a good chance we once again see Mike Dunleavy and Carlos Delfino starting at the 2/3 positions on Wednesday. Luc Mbah a Moute could also get a starting look after getting through his first practices this week.
UPDATE: Via the official BucksPR Twitter feed, Jackson will come off the bench tonight while Mbah a Moute replaces Gooden in the starting lineup. Tobias Harris and Shaun Livingston will not play.
Rotations. The Bucks had less turnover than most teams following the lockout, but that doesn't mean their rotation is well defined. Scott Skiles, what say thee?
"We're trying to figure out exactly where everybody is and what guys can do to help us. Our 2s and 3s are pretty much interchangeable within our offense; our 4s and 5s are interchangeable. It doesn't really matter. It's just who plays well together and those kind of things."
Perhaps the most noteworthy part of that quote is the mention of the Bucks' power forwards and centers being "interchangeable." It's not necessarily surprising given that Skiles played power forwards Drew Gooden, Larry Sanders, Jon Brockman and Ersan Ilyasova as Bogut's backup last year, but it does shed some light on Skiles' approach to the big man positions entering the season. Sure, there may still be a chance of finally adding a true center to spell Bogut in the middle, but Skiles doesn't seem to be sitting around waiting for Joel Przybilla to walk through the door.
Otherwise, everything else seems fairly up for grabs. Jackson will play 30+ mpg when he's healthy enough to play, but after that it's not clear how much Skiles will mix Beno Udrih and Shaun Livingston into the off guard rotation. My guess is a fair bit, if only because the Bucks don't really have many other options beyond Dunleavy, who's more of a natural SF and could also challenge Delfino for the starting 3 spot. The slimmed-down Drew Gooden is the presumed starter next to Bogut, but Skiles has won with Luc Mbah a Moute manning that position in the past and will hopefully be willing to bring Gooden off the bench if he struggles early in the season.
Remembering Kim Jong-Il. Nothing about Kim Jong-Il's death would seem relevant to the Milwaukee Bucks--until you see J.E. Skeets' amazing fantasy basketball team name and avatar. Fear the Deer Leader!
Putting the O back in Bogut. Speaking of Bogut, Jeremy put together an excellent piece on his scoring ambitions for the new season.
Learning on the job. Over at Bucks.com, Jim Paschke has an interesting interview with Scott Skiles, who notes that the compact season will require players (and coaches) to make more adjustments on the fly without the benefit of regular 90-minute practices. Though much of the talk surrounding the compact schedule has understandably focused on the physical toll it may take on veterans and others playing major minutes, young players' development could also be impacted by the more limited time available for practices and skill work with coaches.
That's especially important for the Bucks given the number of young players currently on the roster. Rookie Tobias Harris is still only 19 and missed critical practice time last week after being hospitalized for dehydration. Second round pick Jon Leuer had a terrific game in Minnesota but faces an uphill battle for minutes at the crowded power forward position. Darington Hobson underwent surgery on both hips last season and played his first competitive basketball since spring 2010 in Minnesota. And then there's 2010 first round pick Larry Sanders, who has a year of NBA basketball under his belt but might generously be described as a work in progress.
With the exception of Sanders' two games last year and Joe Alexander's exile in Fort Wayne before being traded in 2010, the Bucks have been notoriously disinterested in utilizing the D-League, instead preferring to keep young players practicing and traveling with the big club in Milwaukee. There's certainly a good case for it given the Bucks' emphasis on team defensive principles and the fact that they don't have their own dedicated coaching staff in Fort Wayne. But while it wasn't really an issue with immediate contributors like Jennings or Mbah a Moute, the remainder of the Bucks' draft picks since 2008 (Alexander, Jodie Meeks, Sanders) had long periods where they struggled for regular playing time. Another rash of injuries could bump some of the current youngsters into the fray early on, but odds are at least a couple of them will spend much of the season struggling to make the active roster. If that's the case and practice time is indeed very limited, the Bucks could be well served letting some of their young players get regular minutes in the D-League.
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top work frank
the season is so close. I can tell by the way my fiance’s eyelid twitches when I talk about the bucks. (I don’t think the lockout was close to long enough for her)
Minn took their victory at home and now defers to us
…at our home by holding out a couple principals. Little courtesies, so that it looks like everybody wins.
I’ll watch (or tape). Won’t expect broad significance (though BrewHoop will later point it out if it’s there). Details will be interesting. Trouble is, the chair I sit in before the TV while housesitting isn’t conducive to sleep. Nodding off can be a pleasant enough ending to a typical exhibition game.
Skiles interchangeable 4s and 5s. Is that a league trend (fueled in part by a league-wide lack of game-changing centers)? Or is it fueled by the Bucks’ lack of serviceable centers?
How did the Bucks fare last season, comparatively, when they went with a 4 at 5? Rebounding? Defense? Are there advanced stats on this? ;)
You can get a sense of it at 82games
Individual player pages show how a player fared at different positions—individually and vs. opponent as well in team-terms (net point differential). Interestingly, the Bucks were notably better with Brockman at center than PF. Ersan was the only other PF who had a positive team point differential while playing center.
Gooden: http://www.82games.com/1011/10MIL15.HTM
Brockman: http://www.82games.com/1011/10MIL13.HTM
Sanders: http://www.82games.com/1011/10MIL14.HTM
Ilyasova: http://www.82games.com/1011/10MIL12.HTM
by Frank Madden on Dec 21, 2011 8:08 AM CST up reply actions
Would it be pushing things too far...
…to think those statistics (which I’m taking right now at your words) suggest:
1. That Brockman was especially bad at PF? Or was he not as bad as everyone-in-general thinks at C?
2. That Ersan just might possibly be our best backup C?
I’m reluctantly assuming my freelance duties now (configuring Mal’s e-Comm shopping cart). Will check in later.
1. Brockman had a slight negative differential at PF and a very positive one at center, so I wouldn’t say it’s one making the other look better.
2. I think it’s really all about matchups with guys like Ersan/Brockman. There are certainly times (namely against low-skill backup big men) where you can get away with them at center, and Brockman in particular can be OK when he has more offensively inclined players around him.
Were Gooden and Sanders’ numbers worse because they were playing against better competition? Tough to say without looking a lot deeper into them. But the one thing that is clear is that while both “look” more like centers (ie they’re taller and in Gooden’s case thicker), they both had poor +/- ratings at the position last year.
by Frank Madden on Dec 21, 2011 8:43 AM CST up reply actions
Am I seeing a pattern?
At the risk of being impudent (which could be fun if you’ll let me get away with it), I’m wondering if there’s a pattern going on. The advanced stats show something that seems surprising. If someone asks if that’s a legit interpretation, Well, one of this forum’s vested savants (just for the record, a vested savant is not the same thing as an idiot savant — but don’t ask me what a vested savant is because I just made it up, I think) replies with something like “tough to say without looking a lot deeper” or a single season’s results can include a lot of noise or another caution not to read too much into anomalies. Those could be both wise and proper cautions.
But don’t they raise the question of how one squeezes the fruit of the advanced stats to produce tasty juice — info to use in making decisions? Advanced stats: don’t they have to yield something we can take to market?
(One shut-me-up rebuttal: they’re a work in progress..)
One thing advanced stats do say
Drew Gooden should not get a five year guaranteed contract.
by Frank Madden on Dec 21, 2011 4:58 PM CST up reply actions
Haha!
I think that they should say that any player should not get a 5 yr contract without performance guarantees.
Fear the 'Dear'? You're damn right I'm scared of my wife!
by Big Crazy Dave on Dec 21, 2011 5:00 PM CST up reply actions
Frank has a knack
…that I much admire for deflecting a long, involved combo of grating questions with a quick, sharp funny remark.
If I was a sarcastic SOB (and, of course, I’m 180 degrees away from that) I might chime in with “thank destiny that we have advanced stats — or we would never have known that…”
Didn't Gooden mostly play C in Dallas, and put up good numbers?
I’m sure playing next to Dirk helped, but I’ve always thought that he has the size and demeanor to play C…
Yeah, he played C exclusively there
Decent individual numbers, but the Mavs were significantly better with him on the bench.
by Frank Madden on Dec 21, 2011 9:47 AM CST up reply actions
I'm not
He is an injury-prone slacker who has learned, with his awarded contracts, how to rob without a gun.
There can always be a lot of noise in any single season’s +/- data, but it’s tough to rationalize why Gooden’s differential has been so consistently bad over the years.
Overall I think we’re left with a guy who’s better than most bench PFs but hasn’t proven he deserves to be paid (and given the minutes of) a starter. He’s always been consistently good as a rebounder, and he has value as a floor-spacing big…we might not love the sight of him shooting jumpers all the time, but he’s actually pretty good at it. Problem is that he needs to mix in more efficient scoring around the hoop, too. His TS% has yo-yo’ed a lot over his career, so it’s certainly possible he gets back closer to average this season. We’ll see.
by Frank Madden on Dec 21, 2011 11:02 AM CST up reply actions
From The Mouth of Your GM....
“We want to provide Gooden with the same…environment he had when he was in Cleveland which provided his best years…when he was teamed up with a true center…..We expect that Bogut will do for Gooden what he has not had in awhile….”
Roughly paraphrased as a reminder of what your GM had in mind when he dug deep for Mr. Gooden. The Gooden / Bogut tandem was to give Gooden the opportunity to shine at the PF position, as well as compliment Bogut I would presume. Injuries aside, for both, we still await this dynamic to reveal itself.
That’s interesting to at least hear the reasoning.
For a couple years I’ve frequently made noises that the Bucks (and Bogut) would benefit having a big, physical PF on the floor. Though I included athletic in my description. They may see Gooden as a poor man’s version of that. The question then, I suppose, is how poor?
I guess Gooden, due to his love of jumpers outside of 15 feet,...
…would theoretically help space the floor on O to allow Bogut to avoid being double teamed as much as he was last season. Provided he hits them at a high % of course… plus, he’s a very capable complimentary rebounder on D, he just needs Bogut to bully him into being a better thinker… ;)
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by Big Crazy Dave on Dec 21, 2011 4:59 PM CST up reply actions
As much as Bogut loves Luc as a player, I can’t imagine he (or the coaching staff) was thrilled by the prospect of playing next to a 6’8" / 230 pound guy over the long term…while Luc can guard bigger players, there are limits to that and it puts pressure on Bogut to defend power post players and do more of the work on the boards. And from a defensive standpoint it is a bit of a waste to have Luc guarding PFs if the other team has an elite wing, though the challenge is figuring out if the offensive tradeoffs are worthwhile.
Ignoring the usual cast of all-star types, my ideal PF next to Bogut would be an athletic finisher/rebounder/shot-blocker who could stick the 15-18 foot jumper. Wouldn’t have to be a great post player. Serge Ibaka would be terrific, Paul Millsap too. That’s what made Sanders so interesting as a prospect—you can see where Ibaka comparisons would come from, but the finished product isn’t anywhere close (especially as a rebounder). Gooden makes midrange shots and rebounds, but his defense and offensive efficiency aren’t there. Seems like less than the sum of his parts.
by Frank Madden on Dec 21, 2011 5:29 PM CST up reply actions
a very fine post
…throughout, but the first graf is one seldom given appropriate weight in PF discussions.
Hammond may have over-done it with Gooden’s contract in trying to keep a commitment to give Bogut some real support. Overpaying for an answer might have been justifiable. But overpaying for a poor player they imagined they could use “like in Cleveland” hurts the franchise. Seems like Hammond sold himself a bill of goods.
Tim Allen's preview (presumably out of Minn; popped up in my Android app) is "interesting" reading. Sure doesn't sentimentalize Bucks players.
by unklchuk on Dec 21, 2011 4:49 PM CST via Android app reply actions
Just read that preview. All I will say in response is that Brew Hoop does not approve the use of single-game +/- for any analysis.
And I cannot support the view that Darko is a better player than Bogut. Ever.
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by Steve von Horn on Dec 21, 2011 6:28 PM CST up reply actions
You should read TA's entire catalogue.
His tongue is very much in his cheek, and the results of the preview are exactly the same for every game. Part of the fun of being a Wolves fan on Canis Hoopus is seeing the fans of other teams not get Tim’s previews.
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by Cynical Jason on Dec 21, 2011 11:32 PM CST up reply actions
Skiles says "our 5s are interchangeable"?
Ok Bogut and ……………
"He always plays like he's a pit bull that hasn't been fed in about a year and that you've got pork chops in your pockets and that's the basketball." Of course, he's Canadian
And klay Thompson has stinker #2
2-15 from the field, 0-7 from three, 5 boards, 3 dimes, 4 steals a block and 3 fouls in 25 minutes. This means absolutely nothing of course, and btw John salmons got another DNP
"He always plays like he's a pit bull that hasn't been fed in about a year and that you've got pork chops in your pockets and that's the basketball." Of course, he's Canadian
And may have earned the nickname
Klay Bricks(golden State of Mind)
"He always plays like he's a pit bull that hasn't been fed in about a year and that you've got pork chops in your pockets and that's the basketball." Of course, he's Canadian
Update: Jackson will play/come off bench, Luc replaces Gooden at starting PF
Glad Skiles is trying different things rather than just defaulting to Gooden.
I'd like Luc to start at PF
if ostensibly he’s supposed to be guarding the other team’s best player wouldn’t it be better to start than come off the bench? Dunleavy is biggish for a 3 as is jackson for a 2. This is nothing to do with Gooden really, just what I think I would do if I were coach.
"He always plays like he's a pit bull that hasn't been fed in about a year and that you've got pork chops in your pockets and that's the basketball." Of course, he's Canadian
Not exactly a risk
Nothing to lose. This team is chock full of marginal, replacement level players.
w00t
Earl barron waived by Portland :)
"He always plays like he's a pit bull that hasn't been fed in about a year and that you've got pork chops in your pockets and that's the basketball." Of course, he's Canadian
I hesitate to even call that a hook
How about “awkward lefty flip shot”?
by Frank Madden on Dec 21, 2011 7:16 PM CST up reply actions
I hear ya, Frank
More like the building is on fire.
I'm impressed with
The jennings that’s shooting less >.<
"He always plays like he's a pit bull that hasn't been fed in about a year and that you've got pork chops in your pockets and that's the basketball." Of course, he's Canadian
Already about three great passes
Sees the floor exceptionally well.
by Frank Madden on Dec 21, 2011 7:29 PM CST up reply actions
Get ready for a lot of that...
Not sure the results will always be so good…
by Frank Madden on Dec 21, 2011 7:29 PM CST up reply actions
Brings back memories of
Downtown freddie brown
"He always plays like he's a pit bull that hasn't been fed in about a year and that you've got pork chops in your pockets and that's the basketball." Of course, he's Canadian
Really?
Just know him from the Sonics
"He always plays like he's a pit bull that hasn't been fed in about a year and that you've got pork chops in your pockets and that's the basketball." Of course, he's Canadian
Why does Bogut stop short of the hoop?
Drives me nuts.
I was just going to post
leuer for back-up 5
"He always plays like he's a pit bull that hasn't been fed in about a year and that you've got pork chops in your pockets and that's the basketball." Of course, he's Canadian
He had very bad post numbers in Synergy last year
Kinda surprised me—I feel like every game he has one play where you’re like “damn, that’s a nice move.”
by Frank Madden on Dec 21, 2011 8:02 PM CST up reply actions
Nice job by Delfino there!
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by the new Bradfather on Dec 21, 2011 8:03 PM CST reply actions
Digging the off-ball movement in general
Not setting the world on fire scoring wise, but nice tempo overall.
Don't laugh gang
Had to switch TVs cuz I promised my 9-year old daughter she could watch the Justin Bieber concert on the big TV. Time to crank Nine Inch Nails on my iPod.
nice penetration for the Bucks
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by the new Bradfather on Dec 21, 2011 8:07 PM CST reply actions
Because nobody goes there-
and when they do they bounce the ball 3/4 of the way up the board… As if that would work. And aren’t even getting fouled for it.
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by TwoShoesMcGooze on Dec 21, 2011 8:49 PM CST up reply actions
Interesting lineup:
Gooden Ilyasova Luc, Hobson, and Jennings. Gooden steps off the bench and hits a 3. Bucks up by 1 at end of the 3rd.
always nice to see the local kids do well
now Bo Ryan has that Ben Brust, he never hits the rim when he shoots from the perimeter, perfect silky jumper
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by the new Bradfather on Dec 21, 2011 9:02 PM CST up reply actions
Skiles rotations puzzling
Hmmmmmmm does that ring a bell?
"He always plays like he's a pit bull that hasn't been fed in about a year and that you've got pork chops in your pockets and that's the basketball." Of course, he's Canadian
Leuer looks sharp
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by the new Bradfather on Dec 21, 2011 9:03 PM CST reply actions
everyone says the Timberwolves
are the next big thing but the Bucks seem to be controlling them fairly well
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by the new Bradfather on Dec 21, 2011 9:05 PM CST reply actions
Drew Gooden looking spry
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by the new Bradfather on Dec 21, 2011 9:06 PM CST reply actions
Going to go out on a limb and say
John Leuer has a chance to be better than Randy Breuer.
"He always plays like he's a pit bull that hasn't been fed in about a year and that you've got pork chops in your pockets and that's the basketball." Of course, he's Canadian
Bucks have forced 21 turnovers so far tonight.
I know the Wolves are a turnover machine, but it is nice to see.
Well
if the Bucks execute and get 4th Quarter leads consistently, this can be a “surprise team” in the East. I think Skiles’ methodology works if everyone follows the gameplan
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by the new Bradfather on Dec 21, 2011 9:09 PM CST reply actions
Nice run.
A samurai sword collection. If you can do it. I don’t know if you’re allowed.
by TwoShoesMcGooze on Dec 21, 2011 9:09 PM CST reply actions
Beno Udrih!
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by the new Bradfather on Dec 21, 2011 9:10 PM CST reply actions
I think Udrih is an upgrade over Salmons
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by the new Bradfather on Dec 21, 2011 9:11 PM CST up reply actions
on offense for sure.
We will see about defense.
by Brick's house on Dec 21, 2011 9:12 PM CST up reply actions
oh yes
while boring, it is essential for success, especially under Skiles
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by the new Bradfather on Dec 21, 2011 9:12 PM CST up reply actions
Udrih looking shmexy
A samurai sword collection. If you can do it. I don’t know if you’re allowed.
by TwoShoesMcGooze on Dec 21, 2011 9:12 PM CST reply actions
Jennings 9/1 a/to ratio
4-13 shooting sucks but oh well.
"He always plays like he's a pit bull that hasn't been fed in about a year and that you've got pork chops in your pockets and that's the basketball." Of course, he's Canadian
a point guard needs to be a distributor
first and foremost, so his performance suffices
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by the new Bradfather on Dec 21, 2011 9:13 PM CST up reply actions
I'm not complaining
"He always plays like he's a pit bull that hasn't been fed in about a year and that you've got pork chops in your pockets and that's the basketball." Of course, he's Canadian
good to know!
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by the new Bradfather on Dec 21, 2011 9:15 PM CST up reply actions
Need to be a smidgen better
Than 39% from the stripe tho
"He always plays like he's a pit bull that hasn't been fed in about a year and that you've got pork chops in your pockets and that's the basketball." Of course, he's Canadian
by CanadaBucks on Dec 21, 2011 9:15 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
what a horrendous way to finish
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by the new Bradfather on Dec 21, 2011 9:15 PM CST reply actions
Yeah, this is coming unraveled in a hurry.
A good teaching opportunity in the film room.
by Brick's house on Dec 21, 2011 9:17 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah, he has a great basketball body, but his basketball IQ is awful.
by Brick's house on Dec 21, 2011 9:18 PM CST up reply actions
Don't understand why Skiles threw him in in the last minutes
wanted to watch him play with some pressure?
Remember him blowing a potential game-winning alley-oop last year preseason?
by Frank Madden on Dec 21, 2011 11:01 PM CST up reply actions
Not so fearless prediction for the year:
Leuer will average more MPG than Sanders. Leuer may not have Sanders length, but already as a rookie he seems to know where he needs to be and what to do with the ball. I think Skiles will trust Leuer on court more. I think Sanders would benefit more from a trip to D League than Leuer. I loved Sanders last summer, but I am starting to lose patience in him and I think Skiles will too.
by Brick's house on Dec 21, 2011 11:12 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
lol meltdown
A samurai sword collection. If you can do it. I don’t know if you’re allowed.
by TwoShoesMcGooze on Dec 21, 2011 9:18 PM CST reply actions
Let's be honest
This 5 will never again be on the court at the end of a tight game
"He always plays like he's a pit bull that hasn't been fed in about a year and that you've got pork chops in your pockets and that's the basketball." Of course, he's Canadian
Ya I meant as a group
"He always plays like he's a pit bull that hasn't been fed in about a year and that you've got pork chops in your pockets and that's the basketball." Of course, he's Canadian
Seriously gross
A samurai sword collection. If you can do it. I don’t know if you’re allowed.
by TwoShoesMcGooze on Dec 21, 2011 9:21 PM CST up reply actions
Nah we run a play for the Sandman
"He always plays like he's a pit bull that hasn't been fed in about a year and that you've got pork chops in your pockets and that's the basketball." Of course, he's Canadian
This is inexcusable
how do the Bucks lose? Sorry guys, but thanks for having me, I shall return. smh
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by the new Bradfather on Dec 21, 2011 9:19 PM CST reply actions
I picked up my son from basketball practice
10 minutes ago …Bucks were up by 11
Maybe your son shoulda been in
"He always plays like he's a pit bull that hasn't been fed in about a year and that you've got pork chops in your pockets and that's the basketball." Of course, he's Canadian
Haha ..maybe
But he lost to his old man in a quick game of horse. ;)
Skiles definitely doesn't believe in pre-season momentum
2nd/3rd stringers in against the Twolves starters in the 4th.
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