Wizards vs. Bucks Preview: John Wall And Brandon Jennings Face Off In Milwaukee
by Frank Madden on Dec 30, 2011 12:41 PM CST
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| 2011/2012 NBA Season | ||
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vs. |  |
| 1-1 (1-0 home) | 0-2 (0-1 road) |
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| December 30, 2011 | ||
| Bradley Center | ||
| 7:30 PM CT | ||
| Radio: 620 WTMJ TV: FSN Wisconsin |
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| Probable starters: | ||
| Brandon Jennings |
PG |
John Wall |
| Stephen Jackson | SG | Jordan Crawford* |
| Mike Dunleavy | SF | Rashard Lewis |
| Ersan Ilyasova | PF | Andray Blatche |
| Andrew Bogut | C | JaVale McGee |
| (19th) 100.6 - OFFENSE - 90.8 (29th) |
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| (9th) 99.5 - DEFENSE - 103.9 (16th) |
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| (5th) 96.0 - PACE - 92.0 (13th) | ||
On the Wizards: Bullets Forever / Truth About It / Washington Post / DC Sports Bog
The Milwaukee Bucks look to improve to 2-0 at home when they host John Wall and the winless Washington Wizards at the Bradley Center.
Young Guns. John Wall's sophomore campaign has gotten off to a bit of a rough start, but there's little debate that the 2010 #1 overall pick is one of the potential breakout stars of the 11/12 season. The bad news: Wall has made just 9/28 shots with almost as many turnovers as assists (10 vs. 11) in Washington's opening two losses of the season, as the Wizards managed just 84 and 83 points against the Nets and Hawks, respectively. The bright side: it's just two games, and Wall's 23 free throw attempts so far provide a reminder of how difficult he is to contain.
Meanwhile, Brandon Jennings might seem like old news compared to Wall, but he's had a solid start to his pivotal third season. Through two games (sample size!), Jennings is averaging 22.0 ppg, 5.5 apg, and just 1.0 turnover per game on .429/.364/.923 shooting (for an above-average 56.5% true shooting). We all love--or at least pay lip service to--the idea of Brandon becoming a more "pure" PG, but realistically the best we can probably hope for is a more refined version of the scoring point we've seen over the past two years. More shooting discretion and an increased assist rate? Yes please. But Jennings also can't be someone he's not.
Bucks getting healthy...ish? Charles Gardner reports that Carlos Delfino (right wrist) made it through a full practice on Thursday and is a good bet to be active on Friday for this first time this season. My guess is that Mike Dunleavy continues to start until further notice; even without his shot going, Dunleavy has shown his passing, off-ball movement and general basketball IQ making him a valuable addition to the Bucks' rotation. Even if Delfino doesn't reclaim his starting spot, he figures to get plenty of opportunity to share time with Dunleavy, Stephen Jackson and Shaun Livingston at the wing positions.
Luc Mbah a Moute (knee tendonitis) took part only in non-contact drills on Thursday but could also return, while rookie Tobias Harris did some light work after his extended absence due to dehydration. The Bucks will also get Drew Gooden back, providing some additional depth behind Andrew Bogut in the pivot.
Speaking of Harris, kudos to Charles Gardner for digging up some details on the Bucks' first round pick's unusually lengthy spell on the sidelines. It's still not clear when he'll be given clearance for full workouts.
Leuer Alcindor. If you're concerned that Jon Leuer doesn't have enough overly hyperbolic nicknames after his breakout evening on Tuesday, fear not. Henceforth Jon shall be known as Leuer Alcindor. No pressure. And should he convert to islam that's no problem either--then he'll just become Kareem Abdul-Jon-Leuer.
Jokes aside, Leuer's contributions against the Timberwolves (14 pts, 8 rebs, 2 blk) shouldn't be understated: he helped stabilize the Bucks when Kevin Love was living at the foul line in the first quarter, and his three point play with a minute remaining helped clinch the victory. He's shown flashes of the perimeter skill everyone saw at Wisconsin and perhaps more importantly hasn't been bullied on the defensive end or on the boards either. Now he just needs to keep it up. One tidbit from his interview with Sparky on WSSP:
It's hard to just say one or two guys because there's been all of them. The veterans have been great to the rookies, in just showing us how to do things the right way. From Stephen Jackson to Bogut to Brandon...all of them have really helped me out a lot.
Young and the Restless. Nick Young was among the few young players who didn't seem to cash in during free agency, opting to accept his one-year, $3.7 million qualifying offer after the Wizards refused to offer him Marcus Thornton-type money (four years, $33 million). The delay in signing meant Young missed most of camp and lost his usual starting gig (momentarily) to second-year gunner Jordan Crawford, though Young has been up to his old scoring tricks off the bench, averaging 18.5 ppg on 57% shooting in the opening two games. Meanwhile, Crawford scored 15 on 12 shots in the opener against New Jersey before struggling through an 0/6 shooting night against the Hawks. I'm guessing Young won't be on the bench for long, possibly beginning tonight.
Though the Wiz don't figure to make a serious run at the playoffs this year, mercurial players like Young and Crawford are exactly why they can be a scary team. Either of Wall's backcourt mates can drop 30+ on any given night, while players JaVale McGee and Andray Blatche (more on him below) are prone to moments of brilliance and idiocy. The Wiz are probably equally likely to steal this game or lose by 25.
My Dinner With Andray. Andray Blatche is in many ways the archetype for NBA players that drive me nuts: high-usage, low efficiency, motivationally-challenged, self-absorbed, defensively indifferent and quite talented. Kind of like Charlie Villanueva with worse judgment.
The latest case of Blatchelism: after years of being known as frustratingly content to launch wayward jumpers, Andray thought it was a good idea to question his lack of post touches after the Wizards' opening two losses. And he's the Wizards' captain. Leadership, huzzah!
Boards. The single biggest issue in the Bucks' opening night loss and their inability to close out the Wolves on Tuesday? Rebounds. Through two games the Bucks are 29th in defensive rebound rate (65.9%), compared to 7th a season ago (74.8%). In other words, the Bucks won't be this bad for long, but mean reversion can't come quickly enough. The good news is that Washington is also dead last in offensive rebound rate after its first two games (15.9%), though that's not likely to hold up either--they were 9th in ORR a season ago.
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Andray Blatche reminds me of a young Drew Gooden...
theoretically talented but has a super ppor bball IQ, doesn’t give good effort, and always seems to contribute to losing
Outstanding pun.
http://twitter.com/WhalesLarry ...but only if you want to see someone still trying to figure Twitter out.
by Mitchell Maurer on Dec 30, 2011 1:39 PM CST up reply actions
Would that make the Verizon Center his Blatche-elor Pad?
…or post match celebrations a Blatche-elor Party? ;)
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by Big Crazy Dave on Dec 30, 2011 6:27 PM CST up reply actions
C'mon... at least Gooden gives effort.
Usually misplaced and/or mistimed – but he does play hard.
Not always smart… but hard.
The Wizards
…should be an agreeable opponent for the Bucks to try to lose those spells of zombie offense.
by unklchuk on Dec 30, 2011 12:57 PM CST via Android app reply actions
I could really go for a blowout tonight
Bucks aren’t getting the absolute toughest of the Western Conference on their forthcoming swing, but it’s still a Western trip. Some confidence and a (barely) winning record would be nice to have going in.
by Frank Madden on Dec 30, 2011 2:22 PM CST up reply actions
I agree... the win is important heading on an extended road trip but...
I really want to see the Bucks pass the eyeball test. If we are to have any hope greater than being Miami’s doormat in the 1st round of the playoffs we need to see crisp ball movement and solid rotations on D. I want to see the Bucks playing as a unit like they did a couple of seasons ago. It was extremely fun to see a team work together to create a synergistic effect on the court.
@BucksPR
Delfino will make his #Bucks season debut tonight. Mbah a Moute (rt knee tendonitis) remains out.
*cue spanish horn*
Oh wait, they got rid of that.
by Jacob Grinyer on Dec 30, 2011 6:47 PM CST up reply actions
¨Don´t cry for me Argentina¨ was last season hit, wasn´t it?
Joining tonight. Believe or not, nothing to do with Carlos´ coming back. Got myself a computer to watch the game during my holidays. (My wife is exultant, by the way)
Big Game Prediction...
Call me crazy but I think Andy B is going to put up a 20-15-5-5 night. Fear the Bogut!
Chicks Dig The Long Ball.
works for me
Better than 50% shooting would be a nice start
by Frank Madden on Dec 30, 2011 7:40 PM CST via iPhone app up reply actions
Does anybody know how to get the NBA League Pass Free Preview?
I am on the site now, but can’t see any way to get to the games without signing up for the pay service.
Maybe the better question, is the free preview something you can watch by streaming or only through TV?
by Brick's house on Dec 30, 2011 7:44 PM CST up reply actions
I think it's also for broadband
I’ve heard a bunch of people asking the same question, not sure what the answer is. I thought Steve might have gotten it to work the other day.
by Frank Madden on Dec 30, 2011 7:52 PM CST via iPhone app up reply actions
Unfortunately, doesn't look like a very crowed game thread today.
by Jacob Grinyer on Dec 30, 2011 7:54 PM CST up reply actions
Try theusagetv.org Brick
My feed is playing up, but that could just be my wireless connection.
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by Big Crazy Dave on Dec 30, 2011 7:56 PM CST up reply actions
The Wizards are not a very intelligent basketball team
Might have the highest ratio of talent : bball IQ in the league.
by Frank Madden on Dec 30, 2011 7:54 PM CST via iPhone app reply actions
Haha!
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by Big Crazy Dave on Dec 30, 2011 8:06 PM CST up reply actions
+1
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by Big Crazy Dave on Dec 30, 2011 8:09 PM CST up reply actions
Interesting that Sanders and Leuer are getting PT before Gooden.
Skiles giving Gooden a little suspension of his own? Sending a message?
Wouldn't hurt!
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by Big Crazy Dave on Dec 30, 2011 8:10 PM CST up reply actions
As we saw last year, he likes to stick with what works.
by Jacob Grinyer on Dec 30, 2011 8:11 PM CST up reply actions
1st quarter gone
some nice defensive rebounding, good outside shooting and an unexpected good connection between Jax and Ersan, so far
That desperation Sanders jumper airball was AWESOME. The form just looked so...interesting.
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Man, those retro Washington jerseys are UG-LEE!
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Someone explain the 1st quarter to me in 20 words or less (a challenge). I missed it diong stuff for my wife
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Well done sir. I'm up to speed.
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by Steve von Horn on Dec 30, 2011 8:18 PM CST up reply actions
Don't forget Roger Mason Jr. getting disqualified mid play for not being on the active roster
Skiles sees everything.
by Jacob Grinyer on Dec 30, 2011 8:19 PM CST up reply actions
ooooooooooo. Good addition to the narrative
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by Steve von Horn on Dec 30, 2011 8:19 PM CST up reply actions
This'll make a thrilling novel someday.
by Jacob Grinyer on Dec 30, 2011 8:20 PM CST up reply actions
It has wizards in it.
That crap sells.
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by Steve von Horn on Dec 30, 2011 8:21 PM CST up reply actions
Wizards getting mauled by deer.
I like it. Beats Harry Potter by a mile.
by Jacob Grinyer on Dec 30, 2011 8:22 PM CST up reply actions
Surely you could've worked some wild wolves into it somehow...
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by Big Crazy Dave on Dec 30, 2011 8:25 PM CST up reply actions
Stephen Jackson leading from the bench! Yeehaw.
Looks like a damn fine start by Ersan.
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Wow! Never seen a dunk before where 3 guys were literally piggy backing the dunker!
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Livingston!!!!!
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by Steve von Horn on Dec 30, 2011 8:20 PM CST up reply actions
Yeeeehaaaaaawwwww!
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by Big Crazy Dave on Dec 30, 2011 8:20 PM CST up reply actions
He's not Draino Udrih...too slow of a start with the team...but I'm waiting to unleash it.
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Andray Blatche is their captain!
I’m so amused by this.
by Frank Madden on Dec 30, 2011 8:23 PM CST via iPhone app reply actions
Andray might be amused by this too...my goodness the defense sucks for the Wiz, it's like a choose your own adventure to the front of the rim, but all options lead there.
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by Steve von Horn on Dec 30, 2011 8:24 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
Hearing any interesting soundbites on the court, Frank et al?
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by Steve von Horn on Dec 30, 2011 8:25 PM CST up reply actions
Dan and I are right under Squad Six
So we’re not hearing much on the court…still fun though, makes the BC feel loud :)
by Frank Madden on Dec 30, 2011 8:28 PM CST via iPhone app up reply actions
We've had a lot of book references today, and I've been in on all of em. I'm learned!
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by Steve von Horn on Dec 30, 2011 8:28 PM CST up reply actions
That's it, I'm calling you...S-elk52 or something now :)
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by Steve von Horn on Dec 30, 2011 8:30 PM CST up reply actions
Haha.
Aaaaaaaand scene.
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by Steve von Horn on Dec 30, 2011 8:32 PM CST up reply actions
Foolproof method of beating the Wizards' defense
Move around really fast and pass.
by Jacob Grinyer on Dec 30, 2011 8:31 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
Game following the same script of the first 2 chapters of the season so far...
…let’s hope that it has a different resolution in plot (did you notice the book reference :)=? )
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More book references!
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by Steve von Horn on Dec 30, 2011 8:32 PM CST up reply actions
Quick, name the Wizards player who has likely read the most books.
….Go.
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by Steve von Horn on Dec 30, 2011 8:33 PM CST up reply actions
ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.............. trick question?
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by Big Crazy Dave on Dec 30, 2011 8:34 PM CST up reply actions
Lol. Cmon now somebody has!
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by Steve von Horn on Dec 30, 2011 8:35 PM CST up reply actions
My guess is Rashard Lewis. He's paid, he missed on college, and he clearly hasn't been using his time to work on his game.
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by Steve von Horn on Dec 30, 2011 8:35 PM CST up reply actions
Roger Mason Jr
By virtue of being older then everyone else.
by Jacob Grinyer on Dec 30, 2011 8:34 PM CST up reply actions
Maurice Evans is offended
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by Steve von Horn on Dec 30, 2011 8:37 PM CST up reply actions
Aw... Well, I think he enjoys being made out to be younger
by Jacob Grinyer on Dec 30, 2011 8:41 PM CST up reply actions
Probably true, well played.
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by Steve von Horn on Dec 30, 2011 8:41 PM CST up reply actions
Nobody else has an opinion on the most well-read Wizard player?
Are you not entertained???
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by Steve von Horn on Dec 30, 2011 8:42 PM CST up reply actions
Ronny T. seems like a scholarly fellow.
by Brick's house on Dec 30, 2011 8:43 PM CST up reply actions
Now that's an interesting challenger. We should probably just look up post-game interview clips of them all and see who seems the most cultured.
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by Steve von Horn on Dec 30, 2011 8:45 PM CST up reply actions
Yes
Terrific exposition so far, hopefully the climax and falling action is as superb…
by Jacob Grinyer on Dec 30, 2011 8:33 PM CST up reply actions
Dunleavy @ 3.5 mil per year looks like a pretty good deal right now...
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See, always listen to Steve :)
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by Steve von Horn on Dec 30, 2011 8:37 PM CST up reply actions
I stand in awe.... ;)
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by Big Crazy Dave on Dec 30, 2011 8:38 PM CST up reply actions
Anything that strikes you in person Frank? Anyone faster or slower or more physical than expected tonight?
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Go to Cleveland-Indiana tie with 4.4
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by Steve von Horn on Dec 30, 2011 8:38 PM CST up reply actions
Kyrie Irving missed a wide open leftie layup to win it....unbelievable. Did well to split the double-team, but missed it flat out with no challenge.
Overtime
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by Steve von Horn on Dec 30, 2011 8:39 PM CST up reply actions
Wow! All shooting % in the .60s!
FG – .615, 3PT – .636, FT – .667
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Translation: domination. That's just plain nasty.
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by Steve von Horn on Dec 30, 2011 8:40 PM CST up reply actions
especially considering our 3PT% was around .25 at one point....!
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by Big Crazy Dave on Dec 30, 2011 8:45 PM CST up reply actions
Is anyone else interested to see Jan Vesely's form on a jumper?
SB Nation’s Mike Prada has been seen tweeting it’s a tough project ahead of Jan and that he should focus on emulating Gerald Wallace…hope he shoots a jumper tonight.
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Well, now you can tell I'm on vacation if that's the case. Fail by me.
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by Steve von Horn on Dec 30, 2011 8:49 PM CST up reply actions
Wow, Marshon Brooks has 21 point on 8-13 shooting for the Nets.
BTW, 20.6 seconds left in ATL/NJ game
On that one now. Looks interesting.
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by Steve von Horn on Dec 30, 2011 8:51 PM CST up reply actions
Then he pulls a Chris Webber and calls a TO when the team had none.
Technical foul.
by Brick's house on Dec 30, 2011 8:51 PM CST up reply actions
Good times.
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by Steve von Horn on Dec 30, 2011 8:52 PM CST up reply actions
Brooks just Chris Webbered!
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J.S. Bucks Blog Portal Needs 'reboot'....
or something that will allow posts to well, post.
Sorry fella’s, but, thought I ‘d use half time to ask any BREWHOOP CREW that has ’insiders’ at JS to ask them to ‘reset’ or otherwise fix their blog sight. Three days, and I can’t get on, as well as no posts on the prior thread since 8:00AM. Their ‘tech staff’ is not responding to two requests since WED. to adjust/reset/reboot/ whatever a portal needs to allow the interaction to take place.
Again, sorry for the interuption, but, as ‘assist’ is needed.
Thanks>
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I"m sitting on my couch watching passing on the front end of a shot. I"m seeing an inside presence relative to points in the paint, and/or, shots given up so passes in the paint can occur. I"m seeing some nice rebounding. Back door cutting. I’m watching, no…experiencing a team that looks nothing like last years shoot only squad. This feels so much better doesn’t it. Abberation? “WE SHALL SEE”
Be careful attributing this to the Bucks instead of the Wizards, but hey...it's still just as fun!
If JS isn’t working, Brew Hoop is always open. We don’t bite.
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by Steve von Horn on Dec 30, 2011 8:54 PM CST up reply actions
Just got home now I got to go out to the repair shop
My comp must be broken, says the Bucks are shoots 60%
"He always plays like he's a pit bull that hasn't been fed in about a year and that you've got pork chops in your pockets and that's the basketball." Of course, he's Canadian
See now the Bucks are down to 55%
Do you feel a little more at home now?
by Brick's house on Dec 30, 2011 9:02 PM CST up reply actions
The Kevin Love Special...
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by Big Crazy Dave on Dec 30, 2011 9:00 PM CST up reply actions
WAIT FOR IT...WAIT FOR IT
by Frank Madden on Dec 30, 2011 9:05 PM CST via iPhone app up reply actions
ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
"He always plays like he's a pit bull that hasn't been fed in about a year and that you've got pork chops in your pockets and that's the basketball." Of course, he's Canadian
Who was that idiot that said we should trade Delfino
Oh ya…me
"He always plays like he's a pit bull that hasn't been fed in about a year and that you've got pork chops in your pockets and that's the basketball." Of course, he's Canadian
Surprised the starters are still on the floor.
If the offense is struggling this much, why not try something else?
Is it me, or has Jennings been blocked on a ton of his drives this year?
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Stephen Jackson leading from the bench again...
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by Steve von Horn on Dec 30, 2011 9:08 PM CST up reply actions
Ersan helping his trade value?
"He always plays like he's a pit bull that hasn't been fed in about a year and that you've got pork chops in your pockets and that's the basketball." Of course, he's Canadian
Ersan has earned the cautious wait-and-see approach. He needs about 20 more games like this in the season to say he's finally figured something out.
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by Steve von Horn on Dec 30, 2011 9:16 PM CST up reply actions
Part of the good Ersan
may be what unkchuk has been saying for months now. He’s a better player when his teammates give him some help, get him the ball where he can do things with it.
Jackson and others are doing that. Last season the Bucks were a bunch of one-on-one individuals, and Ersan was lost.
Did you just refer to your own wisdom in the third person? You win.
Ersan is coming in from the arc too, which has helped for him. I’m waiting and hoping for now, though.
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by Steve von Horn on Dec 30, 2011 9:56 PM CST up reply actions
i'm not shy
Must have said that a half dozen times in two forums, without one comment, pro or con. Sometimes you gotta do it for yourself.
If Ersan was reluctant to return here, my HBT (half baked theory) is because he looks lousy on a selfish team. This year’s team isn’t selfish. Huzzah…
If he and the team can maintain, more or less, I’d now like to keep him.
not a bad little side benefit
by Frank Madden on Dec 30, 2011 9:17 PM CST via iPhone app up reply actions
"Abberation"
Nothing like a third quarter to neutralize an otherwise wonderfull first half.
Now, of course, we begin to ponder ‘finishing’ and ‘closing’ this thing.
WE learned early, 20 point leads mean little in the heartland?
How many TOs for the Bucks this quarter, 10?
"He always plays like he's a pit bull that hasn't been fed in about a year and that you've got pork chops in your pockets and that's the basketball." Of course, he's Canadian
I wish I knew why...I've always hated the second half adjustment angle because it seems fairly superficial to me, but this is just too common
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by Steve von Horn on Dec 30, 2011 9:21 PM CST up reply actions
Ladies and gentlemen, the inexplicable 3rd quarter collapse!
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Different book, same old story...
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by Big Crazy Dave on Dec 30, 2011 9:21 PM CST up reply actions
Winning a third quarter would be a novel idea
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by Steve von Horn on Dec 30, 2011 9:21 PM CST up reply actions
When the Bucks have a big lead, it is forshadowing for a 3rd quarter collapse.
Good times never seemed so good!
It's time to turn the page
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by Steve von Horn on Dec 30, 2011 9:24 PM CST up reply actions
Bob Seger FTW!
"He always plays like he's a pit bull that hasn't been fed in about a year and that you've got pork chops in your pockets and that's the basketball." Of course, he's Canadian
Seems Simple Doesn't IT?
Jon Mac…..“OK, your outside shots are not going down….now, its time to try to get it inside…you’ve had success with Bogut….go to him”……VS. Continue to shoot jumpers.
And yet, the ‘parking lot shots’ continue to color the air!!!
Two guard look with Jennings and Udrih looks pretty crappy right now. That makes me sad.
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I still want to see more true 1/5 or 1/4 high pick and roll with Udrih, but so far he hasn't blown me away.
I think he needs to be in p-n-r, and it would give Jennings the chance to spot up, but we will see it soon enough I think
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by Steve von Horn on Dec 30, 2011 9:30 PM CST up reply actions
On a scale of worried to sad, how the Bucks making you feel right now?
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Both answers are correct.
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by Steve von Horn on Dec 30, 2011 9:38 PM CST up reply actions
ANDRAY BLATCHE IS THE WIZARDS' CAPTAIN!!!
by Frank Madden on Dec 30, 2011 9:35 PM CST via iPhone app reply actions
He didn't get any votes for the most well-read Wizards player...
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by Steve von Horn on Dec 30, 2011 9:36 PM CST up reply actions
Heh!
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by Big Crazy Dave on Dec 30, 2011 9:36 PM CST up reply actions
He brought an eye patch and everything
by Jacob Grinyer on Dec 30, 2011 9:36 PM CST up reply actions
Heh! x2
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by Big Crazy Dave on Dec 30, 2011 9:37 PM CST up reply actions
Being a good player is his white whale
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by Steve von Horn on Dec 30, 2011 9:37 PM CST up reply actions
That really was a nice finish. They are working that 1-5 pick and roll and getting the switch, then Jennings is killing it.
Good stuff
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by Steve von Horn on Dec 30, 2011 9:39 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah, his only real misses are coming from behind the arc.
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by Big Crazy Dave on Dec 30, 2011 9:40 PM CST up reply actions
He's another not so good outside shooter. I imagine teams are giving him a bigger cushion.
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by Steve von Horn on Dec 30, 2011 9:41 PM CST up reply actions
All together now
Whew!!!
"He always plays like he's a pit bull that hasn't been fed in about a year and that you've got pork chops in your pockets and that's the basketball." Of course, he's Canadian
Yea, it's a done deal and looks good on paper to boot.
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by Steve von Horn on Dec 30, 2011 9:44 PM CST up reply actions
Still interesting that Gooden still isn't playing.
You would have that he would have at least gotten a few minutes to break a sweat.
by Brick's house on Dec 30, 2011 9:44 PM CST up reply actions
Not garbagy enough for Gooden?
"He always plays like he's a pit bull that hasn't been fed in about a year and that you've got pork chops in your pockets and that's the basketball." Of course, he's Canadian
There's Beno in high pick and roll. Need more of that.
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I want the C-Note
"He always plays like he's a pit bull that hasn't been fed in about a year and that you've got pork chops in your pockets and that's the basketball." Of course, he's Canadian
How about that and a Leuer dunk as a bonus?
by Brick's house on Dec 30, 2011 9:46 PM CST up reply actions
Works just fine for me
"He always plays like he's a pit bull that hasn't been fed in about a year and that you've got pork chops in your pockets and that's the basketball." Of course, he's Canadian
Comment of the night competition:
BigCrazyDave: For Shrinkage Purposes
vs.
CanadaBucks: Not garbagy enough for Gooden?
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I didn't think it was me...far too witty by half!
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by Big Crazy Dave on Dec 30, 2011 9:49 PM CST up reply actions
Apologies Celtin, consider the revision retroactive
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by Steve von Horn on Dec 30, 2011 9:51 PM CST up reply actions
Jennings looking very poised this year... he is picking his spots much better... his shot selection is better... hopefully this jump in play continues throughout the year because then we actually have a chance to be solid
by Superelkman on Dec 30, 2011 9:47 PM CST reply actions 2 recs
+ ....ummm....what's bigger than infinity?
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by Big Crazy Dave on Dec 30, 2011 9:48 PM CST up reply actions
I'm actually feeling it too, at least to an extent. I could see an average efficiency on the way, and he has always been good at taking care of the ball.
The added bonus is that if the team is playing from the front, he will raise his efficiency just by hitting free throws to ice games during chase and foul scenarios…it’s a win-win.
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by Steve von Horn on Dec 30, 2011 9:54 PM CST up reply actions
Easy to find 3 Bucks this time
Might be hard to narrow it down tho
"He always plays like he's a pit bull that hasn't been fed in about a year and that you've got pork chops in your pockets and that's the basketball." Of course, he's Canadian
Jennings, Bogut & Ilyasova?
Dunleavy if he’d done anything in the 2nd half would have stood a chance too. Gooden for not getting PT and stuffing everything up?
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by Big Crazy Dave on Dec 30, 2011 9:54 PM CST up reply actions
Jennings and Bogut for sure...
I’d probably go Ersan over Delfino for the 3rd buck…
Ersan 16-7-4 on 8 shots
Can't go wrong with any 3 of the 4
But Bogut and Jennings I would say for sure
"He always plays like he's a pit bull that hasn't been fed in about a year and that you've got pork chops in your pockets and that's the basketball." Of course, he's Canadian
15 rebounds, 13points, 2 assists and 3 blocks and a +/- of 14 is a preety good night!
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by Big Crazy Dave on Dec 30, 2011 9:58 PM CST up reply actions
The 15 boards and 3 blocks sold it for me
"He always plays like he's a pit bull that hasn't been fed in about a year and that you've got pork chops in your pockets and that's the basketball." Of course, he's Canadian
*pretty*!
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by Big Crazy Dave on Dec 30, 2011 9:59 PM CST up reply actions
still doesn't look at home on the block...
But so long as he’s rebounding and defending we can live with it.
by Frank Madden on Dec 30, 2011 10:33 PM CST up reply actions
Upcoming schedule
@Denver
@Utah
@Sacramento
@LAC
@Phoenix
Denver is probably the toughest matchup there… LAC and Sacramento are solid as well… We should beat Utah and Phoenix
3-2 on the trip seems reasonable
Crossed fingers!
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by Big Crazy Dave on Dec 30, 2011 9:52 PM CST up reply actions
Phoenix?
We last won there before the 24 second clock was introduced didn’t we?
"He always plays like he's a pit bull that hasn't been fed in about a year and that you've got pork chops in your pockets and that's the basketball." Of course, he's Canadian
Just promise not to say anything to Dunleavy, Udrih, Leuer, S-Jax or Livingston about that and maybe it turns around.
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by Steve von Horn on Dec 30, 2011 9:55 PM CST up reply actions
Haha!
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by Big Crazy Dave on Dec 30, 2011 9:56 PM CST up reply actions
This season?
"He always plays like he's a pit bull that hasn't been fed in about a year and that you've got pork chops in your pockets and that's the basketball." Of course, he's Canadian
Boom. Roasted.
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by Steve von Horn on Dec 30, 2011 9:58 PM CST up reply actions
On a spit!
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by Big Crazy Dave on Dec 30, 2011 10:00 PM CST up reply actions
Ridiculous that they haven't accidentally won one in Phoenix...
I think ‘87 or ’88 was the last win…so I guess we’re due?
by Frank Madden on Dec 30, 2011 10:34 PM CST up reply actions
February 1987
A few months before I was born
I never use a big word when a diminutive word would suffice.
Missed the first half is Sanders injured
Or did he piss Skiles off?
"He always plays like he's a pit bull that hasn't been fed in about a year and that you've got pork chops in your pockets and that's the basketball." Of course, he's Canadian
2 fouls in 56 sec of PT...
…and one god-awful pannicked jumper!
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by Big Crazy Dave on Dec 30, 2011 9:57 PM CST up reply actions
HUES & Chromas of Delight>>>
Well, color me content, after wearing out the edge of my couch for just abit. Don’t want this stuff to be too easy. So, we throw up ‘parking lot’ shots, and forget what worked.
We still won. OK< i’m being abit harsh as some balance was restored toward the end; ceasing the ‘death march’ which was the outside shooting.
This Skiles is just killin me with his rotations. Nice to have choices. Also, might be fun to know whats goin on in his head as he schuffles the deck like only he can. Skiles never made a change he didn’t like?
Nice Win. Team Win.
Denver, and the West Coast Looms.
Now, wheres that Monte Gay?
Watching Jazz-76ers now and the TV crew used the phrase "and that's why they resigned Earl Watson in the offseason"
Just weird to hear or see that collection of words in that particular order.
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by Steve von Horn on Dec 30, 2011 10:02 PM CST reply actions
Everybody wants Earl Watson
So it’s no surprise.
by Jacob Grinyer on Dec 30, 2011 10:05 PM CST up reply actions
2-1 is our best record since end of 2010 season
"He always plays like he's a pit bull that hasn't been fed in about a year and that you've got pork chops in your pockets and that's the basketball." Of course, he's Canadian
Step 1: Acquire Stephen Jackson
Step 2: Start season 2-1
Step 3: CHAMPIONSHIP
by Frank Madden on Dec 30, 2011 10:36 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
Nobody on the team played more than 35 minutes tonight.
Good to see that they were able to spread the minutes even with the Wizards tightening things up in the 3rd quarter. Skiles is going to have to continue using the bench liberally in this condensed season.
Excepting Gooden ofc
"He always plays like he's a pit bull that hasn't been fed in about a year and that you've got pork chops in your pockets and that's the basketball." Of course, he's Canadian
by CanadaBucks on Dec 30, 2011 10:09 PM CST up reply actions
Hopefully, the condensed season will see us able to really get a real advantage with our depth on the bench.
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by Big Crazy Dave on Dec 30, 2011 10:09 PM CST up reply actions
Can you say raw?
Biyombo 5 fouls in 11:51……must have been guarding Howard
"He always plays like he's a pit bull that hasn't been fed in about a year and that you've got pork chops in your pockets and that's the basketball." Of course, he's Canadian
Good lord, Brockman's buddy Spencer Hawes is having a monster game against the Jazz.
For him at least:
15 points on 7/8 shooting, 11 rebounds, 3 blocks.
Mind you, Derek Favors is the startin C for the Jazz...
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by Big Crazy Dave on Dec 30, 2011 10:20 PM CST up reply actions
BTW, I don't think any games on this road trip are going to be a gimme wins for the Bucks.
The Jazz are playing Philly tough and they destroyed Phoenix last night. The Bucks will also be on the 2nd night of a BTB against Utah. Even Phoenix will be on the fifth game in seven nights. I would be happy if the Bucks can win two games and get home with a .500 record since it is their only big west coast trip of the season.
by Brick's house on Dec 30, 2011 10:31 PM CST up reply actions
No arguments here.
I think the 5 in 7 will be an absolute killer.
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by Big Crazy Dave on Dec 30, 2011 10:33 PM CST up reply actions
I am hoping Luc and Tobias will be available by then.
If Skiles has 13 players available on the road trip, that should help spread the minutes enough so they can keep their legs.
by Brick's house on Dec 30, 2011 10:37 PM CST up reply actions
I agree.
Gooden not playing tonight should mean he is very fresh for the trip, and Luc and Harris should be eager and fresh as well.
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by Big Crazy Dave on Dec 30, 2011 10:41 PM CST up reply actions
I'd be OK with two wins
Everything’s a crapshoot right now, so nothing would really surprise me. Each game is winnable…but as we saw in Charlotte every game is lose-able too. Fortunately none of those teams are world-beaters, especially if the Clippers are still feeling things out.
by Frank Madden on Dec 30, 2011 10:44 PM CST up reply actions
Another wild stat
Hornets were 26-90 tonight 28.9%….worse than Bucksian Part of the reason why they got 24 offensive boards.
"He always plays like he's a pit bull that hasn't been fed in about a year and that you've got pork chops in your pockets and that's the basketball." Of course, he's Canadian
The Wiz are a depressing team to watch in many ways
I just can’t get over the way they’re building that team. I love Wall’s potential, but surrounding him with a bunch of young, mostly knuckleheads just seems like a bad idea. They could really use a few quality, character vets who can actually play (ie someone beyond Mo Evans and Roger Mason).
Hey, those guys are likely some of the most well-read on the team, according to my informal poll
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by Steve von Horn on Dec 30, 2011 11:21 PM CST up reply actions
Exactly
Seems like every one of their top eight guys is either under 24, a knucklehead, or both.
by Frank Madden on Dec 30, 2011 11:30 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah.... McGee is a decent piece...
Blatche and Young would ideally be sent to other teams for picks if I’m them
by Superelkman on Dec 30, 2011 11:49 PM CST up reply actions
Young would be good in a Jamal Crawford-esque role somewhere where he can just gun on the 2nd team…
Blatche might be able to be reined in to some extent somewhere else but I doubt it… he has too much Gooden in him
by Superelkman on Dec 30, 2011 11:51 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah, I wouldn't touch Blatche with a ten foot poll
I think Gooden has an infinitely better sense of his place in the world (he’s actually a very well spoken guy, stays out of trouble). I think Blatche actually believes he could be a number one option on a team. Frightening.
by Frank Madden on Dec 30, 2011 11:54 PM CST up reply actions
"better sense of his place in the world"
How many sportswriters would craft that phrase about an NBA player? Well done. It aptly describes something I’ve tried to say less successfully.
Used to think that might help on the court. Not sure now.
I suppose it's something you have to balance
Yeah, on one hand, you want to have a good young core of players that you think can build a championship caliber team around, but you also have to balance that out with some older players that can actually lead by example. And then there’s the fact that you have to make sure that the young players are actually going to be that good in the future…
by Jacob Grinyer on Dec 30, 2011 11:51 PM CST up reply actions
Ha
Someone in the NBA office doesn’t want Roger Mason around:
The NBA provides a roster to teams to circle who will be inactive for each game. The list excluded Mason’s name, and neither Saunders nor the PR staff caught the mistake before sending the final active roster to the league office.
The Bucks statistical staff noticed the mistake when they tried to enter Mason’s basket.
Maybe fellow NBPA vice present Keyon Dooling is next to be forgotten. ;)
I never use a big word when a diminutive word would suffice.
That was an odd one. Skiles said post-game that he only remembered that happening one other time.
by Alex Boeder on Dec 31, 2011 12:58 AM CST up reply actions
See some continuity in this game
A no comment kind of continuity. We’re good. We’re bad. Don’t yet know how our schtick will work against better teams. No prediction; just wait & see.
I feel like we will be the majority of bad teams... lose to the majority of good teams
Where we can separate is by not having more than a few let downs against the bad guys and by winning more than our share against the average teams…
If we play as a team offensively there is no reason this team can’t see a record of about 36-30 and make some noise in the playoffs…
I feel we could even win a few more if we stay healthy, get a little lucky, and the big thing… Brandon plays at the level he has played in the 1st 3 games…
That all said… I could very easily see this team going 30-36
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