Pacers 103, Bucks 97: On Pace For No Playoffs

MILWAUKEE -- They say it's better to be lucky than good. Not so.
Because while the Bucks were lucky enough to play a meaningful game with playoff implications in spite of a 20-32 record, they were not good enough to make it matter.
At one point in the second quarter, Jon Brockman went in for a tomahawk jam (this is a non-fiction website) but was fouled by Roy Hibbert. He missed both free throws. It was that kind of night. It is that kind of season.
Cutting right to the point (or lack thereof), the fourth quarter was a wreck. All of the energy in the building at the start of the game -- and there was quite a lot, for whatever reason -- evaporated as the fourth quarter wound excruciatingly down. The Bucks actually scored six of the first eight points of the quarter, but failed to score for a full five minute and fifty-five second span thereafter. As such, a 78-77 lead turned into a 91-78 deficit. The Bucks poured in 17 points in the final 1:49 of the game, but it was desperate stuff, and the game was over.
Coach Skiles, after the game, on the recent fourth quarter troubles:
Honestly I have never seen anything quite like this. We are trying to get through it. We are trying to let the guys know they have plenty of freedom to go out there and take their shots in rhythm, their threes, their twos. We want to share the ball. Simple concepts like that. For the most part, the guys do that. Having some tough luck right now.
It began with a jolt, as Frank Vogel's Pacers played to an entertaining 32-29 lead after one quarter. Points slowed a bit from there, Corey Maggette had left with lower back pain in the first quarter, and the Pacers led by a couple points at the half. Jennings scored six straight to finish the third quarter, first sinking a jumper and then floating in an and-one (though he missed the free throw) and then getting momentum toward the rim, again drawing a foul (making both free throws). I would detail the first three quarters a bit more, but to focus on the good (or merely okay) in these situations is diverting from the real result.
Ultimately, Jennings (10/6/2) was again outplayed by the opposing starting point guard, this time Darren Collison (22/3/3). Since returning to the starting lineup against the Suns on Feb. 2, Jennings has been outplayed by all of the opposing starting point guards (Steve Nash, Stephen Curry, Ben Gordon/Tracy McGrady, John Wall, Mike Conley, Darren Collison) except one (Jose Calderon). Not coincidentally, the Bucks have only won one of those games, against Calderon and the Raptors. And even before this February sample size, so went Jennings, so went the Bucks.
The Bucks are not going anywhere, and that is not just on Brandon. Everyone is culpable -- no one (really, no one) has met expectations.
Through misfortune and good conditions alike, the Bucks have consistently underperformed. But it's hard to still say that they are underperforming, or unlucky, or underachieving. At some point, maybe after 53 games, this is just who they are.
Three Bucks
Carlos Delfino. Made all sorts of plays that reminded of the glory years, including a reverse layup to start the second quarter, a cut off the ball to shake Paul George that freed him for a wide-open layup on an around-the-back pass from Andrew Bogut, and nifty passes to teammates for rhythmic jumpers. That Carlitos earned player of the game honors sans a barrage of threes (just 1-4 from outside) testifies to his all-around performance, which was so very welcome after four straight forgettable ones.
Earl Boykins. Coach Skiles was not bursting with compliments after the game, but he spoke well of Boykins, who made the most of his 11 minutes by scoring 11 points and adding 4 assists. Those four assists in 11 minutes were twice as many as Brandon Jennings had (2) in 35 minutes.
Keyon Dooling. Some lineup shuffling after Maggette left the game led Dooling to play some off guard, and he played reasonably well taking on a scorer's role. Dooling dropped 13 points on 5-8 shooting in 20 minutes, and he not only led the Bucks with a +13 differential, he led everyone on both teams with a +13 differential.
Three Numbers
0. Zero blocks for Andrew Bogut tonight, after totaling 11 over the past three games. And he didn't make up for that offensively, either. Bogut's hook shot is set to default to such an extent that sometimes he is liable to reflexively turn an open opportunity in the paint into a relatively difficult hook shot, like he did on one play in the second quarter tonight. And that is in part why he shot 4-10 tonight, and why he is making fewer than half of his field goals (49.1 %) this season.
36.0 %. Milwaukee's starters shot 18-50 (.360) from the field as Brandon Jennings and Ersan Ilyasova "led" the way with 10 points each. The starters scored 47 of the team's 97 points. It would appear that this starting lineup is (also) not the answer.
2:1. The Bucks were not all bad -- they had twice as many assists (20) as turnovers (10), compared to the Pacers, who had fewers assists (17) than turnovers (18).
Three Good
Not an important game. The Bucks did not lose at home after leading in the fourth quarter against the team they are currently chasing for the final playoff spot.
Star power. Brandon Jennings and Andrew Bogut stepped it up against comparable opponents Roy Hibbert and Darren Collison.
No adding of injury to insult. No one was hurt in the loss.
Three Bad
Nothing to fear here. The abnormally cheerful atmosphere was Packers-inspired in part, as the Lombardi Trophy was in the house this evening. But the presentation honoring the state's Super Bowl champs was not until halftime, and Bradley Center was abuzz from the tip. And that enthusiasm -- for a team that had lost six of seven -- was nice to see and hear, no matter.
Unfortunately, by the time the game was out of hand and the Bucks were dragging it out by fouling late in the fourth quarter, the enthusiasm and sound was sapped from fans watching a team that was about to lose their seventh of eight. To make matters worse, the final couple minutes heard Area 55 chants ring out, including a mocking version of "Fear the Deer."
The Bucks are 12-12 at the Bradley Center.
Maggette's back. Maggette's back. Not "Maggette is back"
I watched Corey make 13 of 15 threes at one point in pregame warmups, and that isn't necessarily an astounding percentage for an unguarded shooter in warmups. But while Maggette is a professional scorer, he has never been a three point ace (32.2 % on threes in career). Until recently. A night after hitting 4-6 from outside, he started game by scoring the team's first six points -- on a pair of triples.
But his night was cut short after heading back to the locker room in the first quarter with lower back pain. Right when the team gets almost healthy. After the game, he opted not to chat with reporters.
Fourth quarter. Milwaukee actually started the night with an even (0.0) differential in fourth quarters this season, making it their best quarter overall (they do not have a positive differential in any quarter).
But this makes two straight games lost in agonizing fourth quarters. They led going into the final quarter against Memphis before scoring two points in the first six minutes and forty-three seconds of the fourth. In true Bucks fashion, they did that performance one better (worse) tonight against Indiana.
After holding a 78-77 lead a few minutes into the fourth quarter, the Bucks failed to score for five minutes and fifty-six seconds. In that 5:55 scoreless span, the Bucks:
- used seven players
- missed all nine field goal attempts
- did not attempt a free throw
- were called for a palming violation
- committed three charges
- were blocked once
- committed a 24-second violation
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"No one has lived up to expectations"...everyone HASNT been given a Chance
by BuckEm on Feb 13, 2011 1:41 AM CST via mobile reply actions
Everyone's been given a chance.
Some more chances than others…
Editor at BT Powerhouse, a Big Ten Basketball blog.
by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Feb 13, 2011 2:21 AM CST up reply actions
Cdr is sick, seen the guy in person looking like he shud b at home in bed
by FearTheDeer on Feb 13, 2011 9:11 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
Nah, It's clearly Skiles' fault...
The Artist Formerly known as Speedingtime/Speedy
by Jacob Grinyer on Feb 13, 2011 10:08 AM CST up reply actions
The comment by Alex is accurate
NO ONE has lived up to expectations. Just because CDR hasn’t been given as much opportunity as Salmons, doesn’t mean he hasn’t been given a chance.
One could in fact argue his season has been very disappointing – he is on a team with a lot of injuries, terrible offensive problems, and the best he can do is 8ppg and 1 apg?
Jon Brockman went in for a tomahawk jam (this is a non-fiction website)
LOL
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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Feb 13, 2011 2:20 AM CST reply actions
if we need confirmation just look at our starters 18-50 from the field
wtf they should hand back their pay check for tonight
That," says LeBron, "is for everyone that watches me play. They witness something special. You're all a witness.
Agree with you. So why do the same starters continue to start and play the most minutes?
by CDRFORTHEWIN on Feb 14, 2011 10:46 AM CST up reply actions
Maybe because CDR isn't as good as you think he is.
The Artist Formerly known as Speedingtime/Speedy
Herb Kohl needs to fire himself.
by Jacob Grinyer on Feb 14, 2011 3:13 PM CST up reply actions
I think it's obvious to see the problem.
The Bucks are not going anywhere, and that is not just on Brandon. Everyone is culpable — no one (really, no one) has met expectations.
So who is to blame, Skiles. Let Sampson coach them the rest of the way out, or be bold and get Jerry Sloan. Someone has to motivate these guys, they aren’t doing themselves, and Skiles sure as hell isn’t doing it for them.
Go Beer, I mean Bucks
by Take Back Our Bucks on Feb 13, 2011 2:39 AM CST reply actions
FIRE SKILES
Go Beer, I mean Bucks
by Take Back Our Bucks on Feb 13, 2011 2:40 AM CST up reply actions
Would help if we actually had good players that weren't all recovering from some injury or another
The Artist Formerly known as Speedingtime/Speedy
by Jacob Grinyer on Feb 13, 2011 10:04 AM CST up reply actions
I'm not ready to call for Skiles' firing
But I can respect it if people are running out of patience. Still, the thing that I come back to is that in many ways he’s the victim of his own success—he got so much out of the team last year that the expectations were naturally high. I haven’t gotten the sense that the (important) players have an issue with him or won’t play hard for him either.
Sampson is an interesting candidate, especially after seeing what happened in Indiana with O’Brien getting axed for Vogel. I can’t imagine Sloan would come here…if he does coach again I’d think it would be for a team with a better case for contending.
by Frank Madden on Feb 13, 2011 10:24 AM CST up reply actions
I'm sure
That if we fired Skiles right now it would probably have an immediate, maybe positive, affect on the team. I just don’t think it’s a good long term option and I don’t trust the Bucks to hire somebody as good or better.
The Artist Formerly known as Speedingtime/Speedy
by Jacob Grinyer on Feb 13, 2011 10:31 AM CST up reply actions
I think Skiles should get some room to breathe after last year, and with the injuries we have had
and until the last few weeks I havent been too worried, because our defensive effort was still pretty top notch, but the last few games against average teams has been poor………and Skiles hasnt been able to get anything to work offensively the whole year, so maybe we could look at getting someone in the retool that side of the game, but its a major worry as you figure the team wont change that much next year, unless a major overhaul is on the cards, we are going to rely on the same core to get it done….
That," says LeBron, "is for everyone that watches me play. They witness something special. You're all a witness.
I understand that saying "Fire the coach" is often a knee jerk reaction
which can be counter productive in the long term.
However, isn’t it worse to NOT ask questions about the direction of this team. The offense is looking worse than ever, even though we now have some players back from injury.
Regardless of the things Skiles has had to deal with, I don’t see anything which suggests we will have a set starting lineup or decrease in the number of 36% FG nights anytime soon. And that’s why firing Skiles should be considered.
Why can't Skiles repeat successful first seasons?
As someone might remember I was kind of worried when this season started with how this second/third season might turn out for Milwaukee’s coach. That his Chicago experience might have a second version here.
It’s true that nothing could have prepared our coach for having so many injuries. And it’s also true that he had to face most of the season with a diminished star player (thinking of Bogut, not of Carlos ;) ). But even with all his players in good condition, I’m not so sure his plan (assuming, of course, that Hammond’s mainly followed it) would have worked out.
Maybe I’m splitting hairs here, but now that I got to know them, no one of the new players, for example, seem typical choices for a Skiles team (exception of Brockman, maybe). Maggette, Boykins or CDR look like guys that would be more at ease in a fast, offensive team, one that relies more in its individual talent. This is something a Skiles team will never be.
On the contrary, if it has any chance of succeeding, a Skiles team should do it, I think, in its own terms. That means being (quoting Joana here) an “old-fashioned Midwest team”: half court, defensive, collective effort over individual talent.
He had that last season and instead of going deep with it, he chose to change it. Maybe If he hadn’t done that, he could have found a way to back up Bogut’s diminution and Jennings transitional year. Nor Brockman, Gooden or Dooling or Boykins seem now good ways of doing that.
So, I have the feeling that not only Skiles had bud luck, but that he is now paying for sort of going against his nature.
this article makes me cry
There was so much promise and potential… what does it all mean? Will it get worse? Should we hope for the lottery, or just miss the playoffs?
Hammond said “we want to win now…” – now I’m not sure we’re even going to win later…
someone tell Salmons to piss off
That," says LeBron, "is for everyone that watches me play. They witness something special. You're all a witness.
On pace for no playoffs?
A startling revelation indded.
Look, Fank is correct. Skiles was bitten by his own success, but so were a lot of people, including myself.
honestly its kinda embarrasing for the eastern conference that we were in contention for a playoff team, we are no way close to deserving a spot
That," says LeBron, "is for everyone that watches me play. They witness something special. You're all a witness.
4 1/2 games out
Bobcats won at the buzzer, too. Not deserving, not even in contention anymore. Team is sinking like a stone. Go to work, Hammond. Screw the lottery, you almost have to have one of the top 3 picks these days.
by toasterrebound on Feb 13, 2011 4:06 PM CST up reply actions
I'm ready for the lottery.
I won’t actively root for losses while watching the games, but I won’t feel bad at all if we do lose.
The Artist Formerly known as Speedingtime/Speedy
Herb Kohl needs to fire himself.
by Jacob Grinyer on Feb 13, 2011 4:15 PM CST up reply actions
Too many projects
But I hope we get lucky.
by toasterrebound on Feb 13, 2011 4:23 PM CST up reply actions
is Sanders activated at the moment? injured? or just not getting playing time
Id like to see him given some serious time, at least we can get something positive out of the year, not many other things to look back kindly on so far, Dooling I suppose eventually playing some decent ball, Bogut’s defensive effort generally, pretty barren really, clutching at straws which is the most upsetting thing
That," says LeBron, "is for everyone that watches me play. They witness something special. You're all a witness.
Sanders was inactive due to back spasms and is listed as day-to-day.
by Alex Boeder on Feb 13, 2011 12:30 PM CST up reply actions
cheers......should have guessed that would be the case this season
That," says LeBron, "is for everyone that watches me play. They witness something special. You're all a witness.
Just a casual Bucks fan
I grew up in Wisconsin during the 70s — I had the opportunity to enjoy the Bucks’ loan championship with Oscar Robertson, Lucius Allen, and that certain Alcindor-guy.. I have sinced moved out of the state and I have remained only a casual NBA fan, but I was intrigued by the Bucks’s success last year. All signs seemed to point toward a revival for this year, but, wow. they suck all over again. Can anyone give me a (sort-of) brief explanation of what went wrong? I know there have been some injuries and some headaches, but it seems like some of last season’s off-season signings have just turned out to be bad decisions (like, for example, a shooting guard who doesn’t seem to be able to shoot now that he got a 4-year contract).
Basically we blew our cash in a desperate attempt to win now.
Not a lot of people, including me, saw it like that at first though. Some did though. I can only guess the explanation behind this off season was Kohl’s meddling. Otherwise, well, I don’t know what that says about Hammond other then that was some poor decision making.
The Artist Formerly known as Speedingtime/Speedy
Herb Kohl needs to fire himself.
by Jacob Grinyer on Feb 14, 2011 3:23 PM CST up reply actions
I don't think Kohl forced them to spend money
I think he told Hammond/Skiles to go for it given the budgetary constraints that existed, and they did…and let’s face it, front office people don’t get the greenlight to spend and then say “nah, we’re good.”
The Bucks didn’t have cap space, but they had the expiring-ish deals of Gadz/Bell, Bird rights on Salmons, and the MLE. So they used all of them and the pieces haven’t worked out. Maggette in the past couple months has been more or less what we expected, but Salmons has not gotten going for any extended period and Gooden’s basically been out or playing hurt most of the season.
But to me the real problem is that (for various reasons which can be debated), Bogut and Jennings have not improved and Bogut has of course regressed offensively in the aggregate. You can get away with a bad contract here and there, but the bottom line is that Gooden or Salmons alone can’t kill you, and even in tandem you’re not doomed to the lottery because of them. But when your cornerstone building block guys don’t play up to expectations—Bogut to where he was last year, Jennings with some minor to major improvement—then that’s where you get in real trouble as a franchise. If Bogut comes back next year playing the same defense as now with the offensive effectiveness of 09/10, then you’ve got a very nice thing going. And if Jennings takes a big step in terms of becoming more efficient offensively and making other guys better, then you’re really sitting pretty.
by Frank Madden on Feb 14, 2011 4:31 PM CST up reply actions
Very true.
This year has made the positives hard to see for me, unfortunately, although they’re clearly there. The fact that the entire team seems to be devoid of life on the offensive end of the floor and all the injuries makes it hard to evaluate anybody on the roster.
I agree about the contract thing- It shouldn’t have made or break this season. The future of the Bucks lie in Bogut and Jennings’ hands, for better or for worse.
The Artist Formerly known as Speedingtime/Speedy
by Jacob Grinyer on Feb 14, 2011 5:00 PM CST up reply actions
Yes, but ...
I still think that Bucks acquisitions weren’t the better for the team. It could be expected that Bogut would have some problems recovering his full condition and that a young player like Jennings could struggle a bit in his post rookie season. With a better backup center than Brockman and a good international PG, and no Maggettes and other awkward players for Skiles system, maybe Bucks would be doing better, in spite of all the injuries.
Some strong identity this team was starting to develop last year was somehow put in danger with the preseason moves.























