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Draft discussion. (It had to happen sooner or later)

 

It wouldn't be a Milwaukee Bucks season without hoping that the ping pong balls roll your way, amiright?

If the lottery were to start today, the Bucks would begin with the 9th worst record in the league and and a 1.7% chance of landing the #1 pick.  Draft Express pegs us with John Henson out of North Carolina as our pick. Here is DraftExpress's complete mock draft.

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I haven't seen all these guys, but I'm not a big fan of Jared Sullinger, personally

The Artist Formerly known as Speedingtime/Speedy

Herb Kohl needs to fire himself.

by Jacob Grinyer on Feb 14, 2011 4:10 PM CST reply actions  

Sully's not exactly the prototype addition for a team lacking athleticism...

But the dude’s a beast. Maybe a poor man’s Kevin Love? Or is he the next Sean May? My guess is that he’ll be a very productive pro.

by Frank Madden on Feb 14, 2011 6:52 PM CST up reply actions  

He cant be a bust

too strong and physical. 6’10, I’ve heard 260 lbs. And he actually has a decent midrange shot that he doesnt use much cause he can just get to the rim or post up. But he will be gone by the time the Bucks select.

I gots to put the team on my back, doh.

by BlackPack-fan on Feb 14, 2011 8:36 PM CST up reply actions  

I don't think he'll be a bust.

But I don’t think he’ll be a star either.

The Artist Formerly known as Speedingtime/Speedy

by Jacob Grinyer on Feb 14, 2011 9:31 PM CST up reply actions  

sounds like the perfect Bucks player eh

That," says LeBron, "is for everyone that watches me play. They witness something special. You're all a witness.

by ILIKEBJ'S on Feb 15, 2011 1:34 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Nice.

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by Jacob Grinyer on Feb 15, 2011 3:12 PM CST up reply actions  

At least if we are at 9 or below in the lotto

I’d pass on the John Henson, rather have Harrison from UNC. We already have a young PF prospect who’s rail thin.

by FearTheDeer on Feb 14, 2011 6:20 PM CST up reply actions  

You don't want a 200 pound PF???

Henson’s an intriguing talent, but damn he looks raw…200 pounds and 39% from the free throw line. Instant impact!

by Frank Madden on Feb 14, 2011 6:50 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah...Pass on Henson....

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by Jacob Grinyer on Feb 14, 2011 6:58 PM CST up reply actions  

Henson too much of a project, Id take T. Jones

Jones is a combo forward and can shoot the ball. Would be instant-impact but could make big improvements like lateral quickness so he could play SF.

I gots to put the team on my back, doh.

by BlackPack-fan on Feb 14, 2011 8:39 PM CST up reply actions  

Harrison Barnes or Terrance Jones plz.

The Artist Formerly known as Speedingtime/Speedy

by Jacob Grinyer on Feb 14, 2011 6:58 PM CST reply actions  

Agree

Id rather take Jones. Look what I wrote above.

I gots to put the team on my back, doh.

by BlackPack-fan on Feb 14, 2011 8:39 PM CST up reply actions  

Barnes is really horrible at creating his own shot

if you want to see more jump shot offense look no further!

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by Prevenge on Mar 17, 2011 8:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

You're probably right to a point

He seems pretty jump shot oriented, but he’s had is moments.

The Artist Formerly known as Speedingtime/Speedy

by Jacob Grinyer on Mar 17, 2011 4:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

And I know nothing about the European prospects here.

Does anybody here?

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by Jacob Grinyer on Feb 14, 2011 6:59 PM CST reply actions  

I read up on Vesely last year

Intriguing physical talent, but still a project and I’m worried he wants to be a 6’11" small forward. But I love that he tries to tear the rim off whenever he drives.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AvVA62xqX5I

by Frank Madden on Feb 14, 2011 10:13 PM CST up reply actions  

Some people have called him the European Blake Griffin...

Not completely accurate, but It gets people excited…

The Artist Formerly known as Speedingtime/Speedy

by Jacob Grinyer on Feb 14, 2011 10:43 PM CST up reply actions  

Hmmm ...

We saw a lot of YouTube clips last year showing Sanders dunking the ball.

by tommyr on Feb 26, 2011 12:20 PM CST up reply actions  

Heh, maybe a bit later on ;)

Projected in the 2nd round

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by Jacob Grinyer on Feb 14, 2011 10:30 PM CST up reply actions  

Ridiculous if that's the case.

Henson has done…what, exactly? Play for UNC?

Editor at BT Powerhouse, a Big Ten Basketball blog.

by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Feb 14, 2011 10:35 PM CST up reply actions  

Please understand

I’m highly skeptical of someone who’s a sub-50% free throw shooter, averages more than twice as many turnovers per game (2.1) as he does assists (0.8) and who can’t shoot the three, period.

I’m just a little higher on a guy who makes his free throws (84.9%), can shoot the 3 (43.5% from beyond the arc) and hauls in rebounds in a tough, tough league…

The ACC is just awful this year, and Henson’s 2.9 blocks per game is going to wear off FAST come tourney time…or decent officiating…

Editor at BT Powerhouse, a Big Ten Basketball blog.

by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Feb 14, 2011 10:42 PM CST up reply actions  

I hear ya

I don’t want Henson either. I like Leuer a lot as a college player but I think the Bucks could do better with a top 10 pick.

The Artist Formerly known as Speedingtime/Speedy

by Jacob Grinyer on Feb 14, 2011 10:44 PM CST up reply actions  

Leuer would be awesome in the 2nd rd.

And he should be available. But Leuer at #9? Na. Take Barnes, Jones, or even Brandon Knight (a combo guard who can flat out score).

I gots to put the team on my back, doh.

by BlackPack-fan on Feb 15, 2011 10:10 AM CST up reply actions  

Like Vesely and Barnes, depending on where we pick

I’m still buying into Harrison Barnes as the so-called “obvious top pick” at the beginning of the season. His production hasn’t been great, although it’s picked up quite a bit lately, but he still has incredible physical talent and from what I’ve heard he’s a great teammate.

Vesely has HUGE upside though. His position is kinda strange, what with being a paradoxical small forward, but the athleticism is incredible. The only thing that worries me is memories of Joe Alexander. Even if Vesely can jump REALLY high, can he actually PLAY the game effectively?

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by Dan Sinclair on Feb 15, 2011 9:38 AM CST reply actions  

My biggest question is which position he defends

If you’re an offensive tweener that’s not necessarily a bad thing—done right you can take advantage of mismatches—but defensively you’ve gotta be able to line up at a single position night in and night out if you want to be more than a role player. And it really scares me when teams try to make a guy that big (6’11", listed at 240 though that seems inflated) play SF. Remind me how many good 6’11" small forwards there are in the NBA?

by Frank Madden on Feb 15, 2011 3:47 PM CST up reply actions  

Jared Jef--wait, curse your extra adjectives.

I never use a big word when a diminutive word would suffice.

by TheJay on Feb 15, 2011 4:10 PM CST up reply actions  

personally I hope we draft someone who can shoot efficiently at a wing position, just seems like a no brainer

That," says LeBron, "is for everyone that watches me play. They witness something special. You're all a witness.

by ILIKEBJ'S on Feb 15, 2011 9:23 PM CST up reply actions  

Freddette

Scoring is what he does, but he also seems like a good personality (after watching him on Jim Rome) and plays hard.

by FearTheDeer on Feb 16, 2011 12:11 PM CST up reply actions  

Jimmer will not be a good pro.

He won’t even be as good as JJ Redick.

That being said, I hope somebody screws up & drafts him way too high.

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by Dikembe Meiztombo on Feb 19, 2011 9:53 AM CST up reply actions  

Meant to add...

I’m surprised DX has him pegged that low. I realize he’s disappointed, but he’s still a great talent and has picked it up as of late. Although this mock is from the 4th so he could move up in the next mock.

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by Jacob Grinyer on Feb 17, 2011 11:13 PM CST up reply actions  

Reminds me a bit of DeRozan

Not in terms of game so much as how he was a consensus one-and-done guy coming into college who struggled out of the gate and then came around a bit over the course of the year. Curious how the potential lockout may affect the decision-making process for younger guys like him who could improve their stock with another year…

by Frank Madden on Feb 18, 2011 8:08 AM CST up reply actions  

Hopefully he's not the next OJ Mayo

I was hearing OJ Mayo’s name when Lebron was still in HS. He would have easily been the #1 pick b4 the 19yo rule much like Harrison. However, I agree with taking Barnes if he’s available.

by FearTheDeer on Feb 18, 2011 10:40 AM CST up reply actions  

Or you can get

The Marcus Dupree type who is lights-out in HS and for whatever reason never takes it consistently to the next level. But Barnes FTW if available

"You play anybody and if they shoot 70 per cent from three, they're going to be tough to beat." More wise words from Chris Bosh

by CanadaBucks on Feb 18, 2011 12:12 PM CST up reply actions  

I hope we dont draft a shooting guard, Id much rather watch Salmons grind through 82 games

That," says LeBron, "is for everyone that watches me play. They witness something special. You're all a witness.

by ILIKEBJ'S on Feb 15, 2011 1:35 PM CST reply actions  

Brian Skinner now plays on the same team as Donatas Motiejunas in Italy.

Ain’t that lovely.

The Artist Formerly known as Speedingtime/Speedy

by Jacob Grinyer on Feb 15, 2011 3:39 PM CST reply actions  

they have a whole fat and skinny slapstick routine going

That," says LeBron, "is for everyone that watches me play. They witness something special. You're all a witness.

by ILIKEBJ'S on Feb 15, 2011 9:19 PM CST up reply actions  

What is Brian Skinner doing in Italy?

Honestly, did he lose all his money in the recession? He just seems too old to be playing in Europe.

I never use a big word when a diminutive word would suffice.

by TheJay on Feb 15, 2011 9:44 PM CST up reply actions  

For patriotic reason

Kris Joseph in Round 2 please. Love to see an athletic scorer type in Round 1.

"You play anybody and if they shoot 70 per cent from three, they're going to be tough to beat." More wise words from Chris Bosh

by CanadaBucks on Feb 18, 2011 7:42 AM CST reply actions  

Harrison Barnes, Chris Singleton,

are the names that instantly come to mind when I read “athletic scorer”. Brandon Knight can also score and he’s a combo guard but he’s a bit small to play SG (6’3 185).

I gots to put the team on my back, doo.

by BlackPack-fan on Feb 21, 2011 2:52 PM CST up reply actions  

Are there no true PFs anymore?

Looking at the stats of some of the 4s ranked high and all of them shoot a fair amount of 3s. What I would give for a Truck Robinson/Maurice Lucas type but I guess it’s not glamourous enough.

"You play anybody and if they shoot 70 per cent from three, they're going to be tough to beat." More wise words from Chris Bosh

by CanadaBucks on Feb 21, 2011 3:50 PM CST up reply actions  

Anybody want to draft Jimmer Fedrette?

The UFC is a place where they will pay you tens of thousands of dollars for you to fight but only 1 dollar for your soul.

by communication-breakdown on Feb 22, 2011 3:29 PM CST reply actions  

He can only play point guard

The only problem is he is too small to play SG so he would just backup Jennings. I do think he will be a very good NBA player. But we can’t settle for a backup PG in the lottery. We need to think athletic scorer like Barnes or Derrick Williams. If he fell down into the 20s we could trade into the first round for him.

I gots to put the team on my back, doo.

by BlackPack-fan on Feb 22, 2011 8:59 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Williams intrigues me

Doesn’t have ideal size for the 4 but seems like he has the athleticism/scoring skill to be a very good player.

by Frank Madden on Feb 22, 2011 11:48 PM CST up reply actions  

How does this happen?

How is it that the Clippers shop Baron Davis and their 2011 unprotected 1st round pick and the Bucks sit on their hands. I can come up with several permutations of player trades from the Bucks roster that appeal more to the Clippers than Mo Williams and Jamario Moon.

by FearTheDeer on Feb 24, 2011 10:48 AM CST reply actions  

Really?

That take 10M+ off the Clips payroll each of the next two seasons? Moon has a team option(i’d tend to bet that that won’t be picked up), Davis is owed 28.8M over the next two seasons compared to Mo’s 17M over the same time. I think the Clips won huge on this deal, can’t see Cleveland’s POV though. Maggette and Jennings maybe, not sure the Clips would have bitten on that one though.

"You play anybody and if they shoot 70 per cent from three, they're going to be tough to beat." More wise words from Chris Bosh

by CanadaBucks on Feb 24, 2011 6:56 PM CST up reply actions  

Sorry thats's 10m over 2 seasons

"You play anybody and if they shoot 70 per cent from three, they're going to be tough to beat." More wise words from Chris Bosh

by CanadaBucks on Feb 24, 2011 9:01 PM CST up reply actions  

Cavs trade shows desire to re-build quickly

Cavs know they are in Cleveland so tradable assets and draft picks are most useful. I think both teams win, but Cleveland basically paid $9-12 million for a second top 10 pick. Thats something to the effect of Kyrie Irving/Perry Jones and Terrance Jones/Harrison Barnes/Kemba Walker. I don’t think they cared the slightest bit about Baron Davis’ play, they strictly wanted that pick, but if he won’t agree to a buyout, he’s an upgrade for the Cavs.

by FearTheDeer on Feb 25, 2011 11:44 AM CST up reply actions  

Saw Jimmer play for the first time....

Very Impressive, he has a lot of confidence, can score in a lot of different ways and makes a lot of good passes. He also tries to force things a lot though, but when you score as much as he can I guess you can afford too…

I think the only problem would be that for a team looking to get more athletic like the Bucks he’s not the kind of player you would want. But he can create his own shot.

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by Jacob Grinyer on Feb 26, 2011 3:46 PM CST reply actions  

Don't you think that

Utah is drooling over the chance to get him?

"You play anybody and if they shoot 70 per cent from three, they're going to be tough to beat." More wise words from Chris Bosh

by CanadaBucks on Feb 27, 2011 8:42 AM CST up reply actions  

I was thinking the same thing Haha

Utah’s wishing they had their lottery pick one year later.

The Artist Formerly known as Speedingtime/Speedy

by Jacob Grinyer on Feb 27, 2011 10:45 AM CST up reply actions  

Don't they have the Nets though?

"You play anybody and if they shoot 70 per cent from three, they're going to be tough to beat." More wise words from Chris Bosh

by CanadaBucks on Feb 27, 2011 10:48 AM CST up reply actions  

Oh yeah, forgot about that.

And if they continue going down they could end up getting a higher pick anyway, with how strong the Western conference is (as always).

The Artist Formerly known as Speedingtime/Speedy

by Jacob Grinyer on Feb 27, 2011 12:46 PM CST up reply actions  

Saw Vesely on NBATV yesterday

I only saw about 20 minutes of his game against Real Madrid but he looked about how I expected from reading about him. Played SF, looked to post smaller defenders, played with a ton of energy and emotion, active defensively. The only guy he really reminded me of was Kirlenko, but I always hate comparing young players to established players who have very atypical games…for better or worse, AK47 is a very unique player and I’m skeptical Vesely would every get to that the elite level defensively. But he’s probably more athletic and is similar in terms of having that tweener style.

He’d be an intriguing guy to take in the late lottery, but I have to think he’d be a bit of a project rather than someone who could come in immediately and contribute (which isn’t typical for late lotto picks anyway).

by Frank Madden on Feb 27, 2011 12:12 PM CST reply actions  

There is a good, if a bit long, story about Perry Jones in the NY Times.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/13/magazine/mag-13Player-t.html?_r=2&pagewanted=all

Seems to me, the issue with Jones is a lack of aggression or killer instinct. He reminds me of Derrick McKey or Marvin Williams in that respect. Players with immense skills and athletic gifts that lacked the killer instinct to be top level players.

by Brick's house on Mar 9, 2011 12:36 PM CST reply actions  

I certainly got that impression from watching him.

And thus, I do not want him.

The Artist Formerly known as Speedingtime/Speedy

by Jacob Grinyer on Mar 9, 2011 3:18 PM CST up reply actions  

Not that we will have the chance to get him

But I think he’ll either be a bust or be a Michael Beasley type that spends a few years in mediocrity and then becomes a pretty good player that puts up a lot of stats but can’t do much else.

I think the overall mindset of the player you’re drafting is very important.

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by Jacob Grinyer on Mar 9, 2011 3:20 PM CST up reply actions  

speaking of drafts...

how has this years bunch of rookies gone? havent really followed it and havent read anything much about guys standing out, all been about Blake Griffin…..so Im assuming it has been a lean year?

That," says LeBron, "is for everyone that watches me play. They witness something special. You're all a witness.

by ILIKEBJ'S on Mar 9, 2011 3:45 PM CST reply actions  

John Wall

is putting up 15 pts 9 assts. Heres the NBA.com T-Mobile Rookie Ladder

I gots to put the team on my back, doo.

by BlackPack-fan on Mar 9, 2011 8:24 PM CST up reply actions  

If you look at the top 10

All but Neal, Turner and Fields are on lousy teams and are getting lots of burn because of quality of teammates and being out of the playoff picture. I would say that considering how deep last years draft was supposed to be it’s surprising that there hasn’t been more big contributors, especially from the 2nd round.

"You play anybody and if they shoot 70 per cent from three, they're going to be tough to beat." More wise words from Chris Bosh

by CanadaBucks on Mar 12, 2011 11:58 AM CST up reply actions  

seems like the game changing talent in each draft is pretty diluted

the top pick seems to be a real star but after that there is talent but its pretty raw or comes with some issues

That," says LeBron, "is for everyone that watches me play. They witness something special. You're all a witness.

by ILIKEBJ'S on Mar 12, 2011 4:04 PM CST up reply actions  

Which is why

The 8th seed>9-15 in the draft Go Bucks!

"You play anybody and if they shoot 70 per cent from three, they're going to be tough to beat." More wise words from Chris Bosh

by CanadaBucks on Mar 12, 2011 4:50 PM CST up reply actions  

seems like the cursed pick is the 2nd pick in the draft these days

Michael Beasley Derrick Favors Hasheem Thabeet ouch

That," says LeBron, "is for everyone that watches me play. They witness something special. You're all a witness.

by ILIKEBJ'S on Mar 13, 2011 3:14 AM CST up reply actions  

Jury's still out on Favors

The Artist Formerly known as Speedingtime/Speedy

by Jacob Grinyer on Mar 13, 2011 11:21 AM CDT up reply actions  

jury is out on all of them I guess, which is hardly what you expect wih the 2nd pick

I know its not an exact science but to me it seems the quality of talent these days is pretty thin, or needs alot of development, or maybe it’s always been that way apart from a few real quality drafts?

That," says LeBron, "is for everyone that watches me play. They witness something special. You're all a witness.

by ILIKEBJ'S on Mar 13, 2011 12:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think it was better

When most players went 4 years but could be that I’m just stuck in the past. Still had busts then(LaRue Martin, Sam Bowie etc.)but I think it’s trying to project what players could be not what the actually are. The NHL draft has suffered as well since they lowered the age limit, it used to be most first rounders would step right in, now it’s a yeart of two of development. Hard to do that in the NBA though

"You play anybody and if they shoot 70 per cent from three, they're going to be tough to beat." More wise words from Chris Bosh

by CanadaBucks on Mar 13, 2011 1:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

its an interesting question

in recent years over in our AFL comp as the the under age competitions have developed and training and scouting has improved you get a lot more kids who are 18-19 who can step in and play straight away as they are physically more mature and mentally better prepared for the increased professionalism and training regime, about 15-20 years ago it was basically hit or miss with what you got

That," says LeBron, "is for everyone that watches me play. They witness something special. You're all a witness.

by ILIKEBJ'S on Mar 13, 2011 1:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

After watching clips of everybody....

Vesely all the way! I want him on the Bucks b/c the kid looks exciting and fearless. I’ll be advocating for him from now on.

by FearTheDeer on Mar 15, 2011 12:22 AM CDT reply actions  

Not sure if I want another European

or any overseas prospect. I’m done wishing for those guys to be honest, especially with how Yi turned out.

I gots to put the team on my back, doo.

by BlackPack-fan on Mar 15, 2011 10:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

cmon how could you not have been impressed with Yi work out before the draft back then

he really schooled those plastic chairs, the stupidity of Larry Harris, im kinda 95% sure he just took Yi out of spite because his handlers had kinda said they would not be pleased about being drafted by Milwaukee

That," says LeBron, "is for everyone that watches me play. They witness something special. You're all a witness.

by ILIKEBJ'S on Mar 15, 2011 12:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

Defending the Yi pick

Outside of Joakim Noah, there was no one in that draft to pick at 6. The next 5 picks were Corey Brewer, Brandon Wright, Joakim Noah, Spencer Hawes, and Acie Law. Honestly, Yi has had a better career so far than all of them except Noah who refused to play for Milwaukee. It was just a really WEAK draft, one of the weakest ever. When the draft is lacking talent, why not draft the guy who will raise your television ratings tremendously and peak interest in one of the largest internation markets. The pick of Yi basically was because their was no other talent left in the draft and here’s a possible upside pick with instant profits overseas.

by FearTheDeer on Mar 15, 2011 1:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Not having much exposure to NCAA

I am hoping someone call fill me in a bit on Alec Burks. Guy is a scorer for sure and I think we could use one or two of them.

"You play anybody and if they shoot 70 per cent from three, they're going to be tough to beat." More wise words from Chris Bosh

by CanadaBucks on Mar 16, 2011 12:20 PM CDT reply actions  

Poll

What should Bucks do if they win the lottery?

1) Draft Irving (try to trade Jennings?).
2) Draft someone else.
3) Trade down for multiple picks (Cleveland? Utah?).
4) Trade down for pick plus move an undesirable contract or two (bundle Salmons).
5) Trade down for pick plus semi-promising young player(s).

by FearTheDeer on Mar 16, 2011 1:54 PM CDT reply actions  

Given the Bucks history with 1st overall

Exception for Kareem…I’d trade down, option 3 or 4 sounds good

"You play anybody and if they shoot 70 per cent from three, they're going to be tough to beat." More wise words from Chris Bosh

by CanadaBucks on Mar 16, 2011 2:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Option 4.

I gots to put the team on my back, doo.

by BlackPack-fan on Mar 16, 2011 7:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Really like Jimmer.

But what do we do with Jennings? If we got Jimmer, I think we should trade Jennings for a mid-rd pick to take Alec Burks, and get rid of an unwanted contract (Maggette, Gooden, or Salmons).

I gots to put the team on my back, doo.

by BlackPack-fan on Mar 18, 2011 1:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

What's funny to me now, is that in late January/early Feb

Perry Jones was the guaranteed #1 pick. Now on nbadraft.net (my preferred mock draft site) he’s fallen to the Bucks at #9.

Personally, in that 8-12 range I’d take Jones, Jimmer, Marcus Morris or either of the Kentucky kids.

Jimmer is a bit of a risk, but hey, he can definitely score the ball, something the Bucks simply cannot do. Jones is more of a playmaker to compliment Bogut and possibly Gooden. Not sure where Sanders would fit in next year then however.

Marcus Morris and Terrence Jones are both guys that provide some height and athleticism to the 2/3 spot and they both can score as well.

All of it is a toss up, but I think if they could land in the 5-10 range they’ll get a pretty good player. Maybe not a star, but a good player.

Everyone just needs to Grillax a little bit...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xVod3uqtqgk

by jmeks23 on Mar 17, 2011 9:42 PM CDT reply actions  

Just say no

To white guys as first round picks. Other than Bogut I can’t think of a 1st round caucasian that’s been a good pick. Benson, Respert(he was really our pick I think), Alexander, Grunfeld, Breuer etc. etc Need a guy who can score though for sure. like the look of Alec Burks but he’s not a great shooter but can create, get to the hoop and draw fouls. As I just see someone posted about him he would be a reach early but who knows. Other than that a physical PF who has an inside game.

"You play anybody and if they shoot 70 per cent from three, they're going to be tough to beat." More wise words from Chris Bosh

by CanadaBucks on Mar 18, 2011 1:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sorry I meant a Bucks pick

"You play anybody and if they shoot 70 per cent from three, they're going to be tough to beat." More wise words from Chris Bosh

by CanadaBucks on Mar 18, 2011 1:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't really care what race he is as long as he's good....

…And I think Jimmer is good. He’s not some white hustle guy who sits at the 3 point line all day….

The Artist Formerly known as Speedingtime/Speedy

by Jacob Grinyer on Mar 18, 2011 3:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

Possibly correctable, but its most likely

he’s just got limited athleticism like slow lateral quickness & foot speed and no leaping ability.

by FearTheDeer on Mar 18, 2011 4:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Jimmer's a straight up scorer, with a pretty pure jumper as well

Something the Bucks desperately need. However, if they can get someone like Perry Jones at their spot, not sure how you could possibly pass that up. He’s got like a 7’3" wingspan at the 4 spot and he’s a great passer.

Everyone just needs to Grillax a little bit...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xVod3uqtqgk

by jmeks23 on Mar 18, 2011 5:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

From what I can gather

It seems he just doesn’t try

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by Jacob Grinyer on Mar 21, 2011 3:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

He is a competitive guy, if he is only playing 20 minutes a game as a role player, I bet he will at least put forth effort. Whether he will actually stop anyone with his lack of foot speed and length is another matter.

by Brick's house on Mar 24, 2011 3:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

If you were watching him vs Florida...

he was cramping in his calfs so he was hobbling plus he played either the whole game or almost the whole game.

I gots to put the team on my back, doo.

by BlackPack-fan on Mar 27, 2011 8:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think the whole game would involve defense

I once heard a scout say that he’d never seen Jimmer bend his knees on defense. There’s a difference between “doesn’t try on defense” and “is so defensively passive that he barely makes up fo it on the other end despite being a top scorer”. Jimmer is the next Adam Morrison. The Big White Hype. Do what Flava says, don’t believe it.

by MadTown Hoops on Mar 25, 2011 12:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

He'll be better then Morrison

I just don’t know by how much…

The Artist Formerly known as Speedingtime/Speedy

by Jacob Grinyer on Mar 25, 2011 7:44 AM CDT up reply actions  

Anyone like Henson's Hoops IQ?

But it looks now like the Bucks will be in the 8-11 or 15 spot barring a big move by any team near them.

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by CanadaBucks on Mar 20, 2011 8:32 PM CDT reply actions  

I'm really hoping we don't pick Henson

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by Jacob Grinyer on Mar 20, 2011 8:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

I really don't think they will

Can’t see him fitting in with the players we have now. Hoping for a wing

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by CanadaBucks on Mar 20, 2011 9:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

We need someone with good Basketball IQ. Already have a raw guy with Sanders, don’t need more projects. Just get someone sound and smart.

by kanyon on Mar 21, 2011 3:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

What an idot...

he tried to catch the ball, couldve just let it go and won. And on the GW attemtp for Washington he nearly goaltended it but Washington shot a 2 anyways. And he is way to raw, we already have our developmetnal big man in Larry.

I gots to put the team on my back, doo.

by BlackPack-fan on Mar 23, 2011 9:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

We won't be able to pick him but

I think Derrick Williams could be one of the best players in this draft class. His TS% and FT rate are off the charts and he has the athleticism to match. Only problem is that he’s only 6’8.

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by Jacob Grinyer on Mar 23, 2011 4:33 PM CDT reply actions  

6'8"

which is why I don’t want him in a Bucks uni. We already have to many PF’s who are too small either by weight or height. It’s time to get a guy with Markieff Morris’ stature.

by FearTheDeer on Mar 23, 2011 11:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm convinced that when the whole thing is said and done

Harrison Barnes will be the number one pick in the draft.

by FearTheDeer on Mar 24, 2011 11:01 AM CDT reply actions   1 recs

No doubts.

I gots to put the team on my back, doo.

by BlackPack-fan on Mar 27, 2011 8:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

If these names are gone by the time we pick

At this point the only guys I really care to have on this team next year are Harrison Barnes, Enes Kanter, Jimmer Fredette, Jan Vesely, Perry Jones, Kyrie Irving, Alec Burks and maybe Jared Sullinger or Derrick Williams. If those guys are all gone, maybe the Bucks should trade out for a future No. 1. I know its kind of anticlimatic to not pick in the draft after a losing season, but scout 2011, 2012, and 2013 to see which class is projected to be a fairly deep draft (2012?) and swap it out.

by FearTheDeer on Mar 24, 2011 11:18 AM CDT reply actions  

+1 for Burks

who we will have a shot at

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by CanadaBucks on Mar 24, 2011 6:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Not at 12-15

He’s this years Paul George, he’ll move up in the draft come draft day.

by FearTheDeer on Mar 24, 2011 7:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

We're not going to be at 12-15 probs

12-14 will be West Conference teams we’ll be 8-11

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by CanadaBucks on Mar 25, 2011 9:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

A lot of people like him

But I known next to nothing about him. I know he’s guard…And that’s about it, Haha

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by Jacob Grinyer on Mar 24, 2011 8:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

never seen the kid, by generally I suggest just in general never go for someone called Jimmer

That," says LeBron, "is for everyone that watches me play. They witness something special. You're all a witness.

by ILIKEBJ'S on Mar 25, 2011 6:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

I hope we don't get to the point where we have to worry about drafting him

He’s either hit or miss.

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by Jacob Grinyer on Mar 25, 2011 7:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

I thought he was

A cracker but he’s from Glens Falls so I guess not.

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by CanadaBucks on Mar 25, 2011 9:40 AM CDT up reply actions  

we call sprinkles hundreds and thousands down under when I was a kid

I supoose thats how much we might be wasting?

That," says LeBron, "is for everyone that watches me play. They witness something special. You're all a witness.

by ILIKEBJ'S on Mar 25, 2011 9:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

Anyone seen enough of Jordan Hamilton

To comment. I am looking for people who can score and he seems to get a fair amount of positive press, I realize that he would likely be a top 10 reach but maybe trade down if you’re interested.

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by CanadaBucks on Mar 25, 2011 1:03 PM CDT reply actions  

Yeah, but i don't want him

Jennings once said, Hamilton was the best basketball player in HS player in Cali, if that held any weight. After seeing a few of his games, plus the tourney games, I’d say he’s not elite at any one thing, good sized SG, good on the offensive end, average athleticism, low shooting %, questionable IQ.

by FearTheDeer on Mar 25, 2011 3:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

I pray JH makes a big splash and trades Jennings and other pieces for K Irving or another stud

It’s obvious the niether BJ or Bogut are going to be the “stars” that all good teams have – but Bogut still offers a lot in way of Defense, Reb, etc… he’s also 7’ ; )

I’m aware that no draft picks are “sure things” – but I’d also wager the K.I. is better than Jennings right now, let alone a few yrs down the road.

Jennings is and will always be a glorified TJ Ford, IMO.

I’d also be cool w/ B Knight, but he doesn’t seem to be the pospect that K.I. is

by victor s on Mar 25, 2011 2:54 PM CDT reply actions  

Jennings for picks won't and shouldn't happen

We watch Jennings against NBA talent, if he was a Duke Blue Devil, KY Wildcat, or UConn Huskie playing against a bunch of what’s his name PGs in college…the guy would regularly have 55pt games.

by FearTheDeer on Mar 25, 2011 3:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

If It meant getting Irving, then I definetly would

Unfortunatley I don’t think other GM’s are that foolish.

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by Jacob Grinyer on Mar 25, 2011 4:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

Fair enough....

But Irving is bigger, more athletic, better shooter, and appears to have a higher BB IQ than BJ.

And FWIW Kyrie is also supposed to be a high-character, great teammate, sort of dude.

I’m just sayin that what you see is what you get w/ BJ, while K.I. is supposedly one of the best PG prospects to come along in a few yrs, and looks to be an all-star at the NBA level.

Plus, hasn’t BJ alluded to possibly going elsewhere as a FA?

by victor s on Mar 25, 2011 4:24 PM CDT reply actions  

Moot point

You don’t have what it would take to get him…..Jennings + what? If irving is that good who’s going to make that deal

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by CanadaBucks on Mar 25, 2011 7:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

High Character

Jennings just got the NBA Cares Community Assist Award. I’m not ultra high on Jennings, but I think ppl are jumping the gun here. At the beginning of the season, we were talking top 5-10 PG’s, now the Bucks as a whole have a bad year and everyone is talking about trading everybody.

by FearTheDeer on Mar 25, 2011 10:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm with you

Lets give BJ another year to develop. He can have bad games, but he can be really good as witnessed last night. Ever since I have been watching the Bucks(30 odd years)PG has been a position of weakness for this franchise and I think he can be a pretty good one. I really think we need a wing that can score

"You play anybody and if they shoot 70 per cent from three, they're going to be tough to beat." More wise words from Chris Bosh

by CanadaBucks on Mar 26, 2011 9:04 AM CDT up reply actions  

I don't think anybody was talking THAT high

But we were expecting something better.

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by Jacob Grinyer on Mar 26, 2011 9:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

With the lockout looming, there is a chance players won't play next year.

For those that love the game and want to improve, staying in school will be their best chance to do so. If a lot of players stay in school, it will make for a historically bad draft.

by Brick's house on Mar 26, 2011 11:58 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Just a question

Does the position a player get drafted significantly improve the money they will make? Some might be smarter to stay in the to go high in a weak draft as opposed to the other. If we are 8-11 we hopefully will get someone useful.

"You play anybody and if they shoot 70 per cent from three, they're going to be tough to beat." More wise words from Chris Bosh

by CanadaBucks on Mar 26, 2011 12:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

This is the scale for 1st round picks

http://www.hoopsworld.com/Story.asp?story_id=9302

Being picked 4th is twice as much as being 13th – who knows how that will change after the lockout. I’ve thought being picked early or anywhere in the 2nd round is actually better than being picked late in the first round in the sense you can get a bigger deal faster.

I never use a big word when a diminutive word would suffice.

by TheJay on Mar 26, 2011 2:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sucks for the Bucks

Not that they’d be able to pick him but it could probably cause a bunch of other players to drop out of the draf tas well, because of the lockout. He could change his mind but It sounds like he won’t. The Bucks picked a bad year to suck. (Again)

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by Jacob Grinyer on Mar 26, 2011 5:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Just pick some young European guy

He’ll keep playing in Europe and they’ll suck again next year before a deeper draft! I think I’m doing this optimism thing wrong…

I never use a big word when a diminutive word would suffice.

by TheJay on Mar 26, 2011 6:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

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