Bulls/Bucks: Derrick Rose brings MVP campaign to Milwaukee
by Frank Madden on Feb 26, 2011 6:10 PM CST
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2010/2011 NBA Season
vs.
22-35 (14-13 home) vs. 39-17 (13-13 road)
February 26, 2011
Bradley Center
7:30 PM
Radio: 620 WTMJ TV: FSN Wisconsin
Probable starters:
Brandon Jennings
PG
Derrick Rose
John Salmons
SG
Keith Bogans
Carlos Delfino
SF
Luol Deng
Luc Mbah a Moute
PF
Carlos Boozer
Andrew Bogut
C
Joakim Noah
(30th) 101.2 - OFFENSE - 106.8 (17th)
(4th) 102.7 - DEFENSE - 100.6 (2nd)
(25th) 90.1 - PACE - 91.4 (18th)
On the Bulls: Blog a Bull / Bulls By The Horns
The state of Wisconsin gets its first look of the season at the much-improved Derrick Rose, Carlos Boozer, and Joakim Noah when the Bulls make their first of two visits to the Bradley Center on Saturday night.
SBN: Rose, Deng lead Bulls' rally past Heat
The Central-leading Bulls have been busy beefing up their contender credentials of late, beating both the league-leading Spurs and East-leading Heat in the last week. Ignoring the Bulls' letdown loss in Toronto in midweek, that's also helped the burgeoning Derrick Rose-for-MVP campaign, though it's worth noting that Rose still ranks "only" 12th league-wide in PER, behind both Chris Paul and Russell Westbrook. Still, Rose has a few things going for him that tend to be a big boost when it comes to MVP hype: a breakout season, an improved team, a big market, and the sense that he's now realizing the superstar potential everyone thought he had when the Bulls drafted him first overall in 2008.
Noah's back. Joakim Noah returned from a 30-game layoff on Wednesday (thumb) and looked a bit more like his old self against the Heat, grabbing 16 boards despite battling foul trouble for much of the night. Noah's return means less minutes for Milwaukee favorite/Bucks killer Kurt Thomas, who didn't play at all against Miami as Omer Asik took the lion's share of backup center minutes. That might not be bad news for the Bucks, who watched their former teammate torch them for a season-high 22 points (along with nine boards and five assists) in the Bulls' 92-83 win in Chicago on January 24--just the second time all season KT has cracked double digits in scoring.
JS: Skiles challenges Bogut
Andrew Bogut has been something of a sad panda lately, battling through his well-documented arm and other injuries but also appearing to completely lose his confidence on the offensive end. That hasn't been lost on Scott Skiles, who sat down with his best player on Friday to deliver what Charles Gardner termed a "pep talk" that also included a challenge.
"He (Skiles) made a good point about not running as hard as I should, and my elbow shouldn't be a factor in that," Bogut said. "It's frustrating. I've had a whole summer of dealing with it and I'm still dealing with it. I guess I'm more frustrated than ever."
The great tank debate. Bogut also reiterated his need for an arthroscopic procedure to clean up his elbow this offseason, so if you're looking for a way the Bucks could "tank" the rest of the season, there it is: shut down Bogut and get it over with.
Other than that, I always see people reference tanking as though it's some easy switch that can just be flipped, but the reality is that the Bucks simply weren't built for it. As long as Bogut is in the lineup, they're slightly too talented and hard-working to be awful on their own, and with the exception of maybe Corey Maggette, they don't have key veterans who could be dumped for something resembling an expiring deal; certainly they don't have veterans who could be used to acquire young, attractive talent. Unfortunately, no team is going to take Salmons' and Gooden's deals unless they're bribed with younger guys (like Sanders, Ilyasova) and draft picks--and honestly, does that get the Bucks to a better place?
JS: Hammond explains quiet deadline
While I wasn't surprised that the Bucks didn't make any big trades, as a fan it's tough to be excited watching your team do nothing as it struggles to salvage the season. John Hammond provides some explanation of his process over at the JS:
"At this point we have obvious assets on our roster," Hammond said. "We didn't feel it was appropriate to move that type of player."We don't want to be in a stance of dealing from a position of weakness. When people feel like you're concerned about the state of your team, the perception could be, 'This is an opportunity to strike. They're weak.'
"It's not like we didn't have an opportunity over the last couple days. But just to do something, to make a minor move that would not have a true impact on our team, we didn't want to do that."
A big part of the Bucks' "position of weakness" is that key players have underperformed or been hurt. Gooden and Salmons are immovable at the moment, while younger guys like Ilyasova and Mbah a Moute have struggled for long stretches of the season--not that they were worth a ton to begin with. And then there's the bigger issue of Bogut and Jennings struggling to live up to their building block reputation, injuries or otherwise. Even if the Bucks wanted to blow things apart, they'd have a hard time getting good value for a team full of depressed assets.
Sanders returns. Larry Sanders' D-League adventure lasted all of two games, as the Bucks announced today that they had recalled the 15th overall pick from Fort Wayne for tonight's game. After a 15-point/14-rebound effort in his debut, Sanders managed just four points, six boards, and five fouls in 20 minutes on Thursday, but I suppose the Bucks felt like they could use someone other than just Jon Brockman at backup center.
Why didn't they feel that way earlier in the week? Unclear. Will Sanders bounce back down to Fort Wayne at some point? It's certainly possible, especially if the Bucks are serious about wanting Sanders to get more regular game action. The Mad Ants play tonight and tomorrow and then have three days off, so presumably Sanders will stay with the Bucks for a few days.
Portland Tribune: ‘Enormous gulf’ separates players, owners in negotiations
Anyone with a passing interest in seeing an NBA season in 2011-2012 should check out Kerry Eggers' interview with NBA Deputy Commissioner Adam Silver.
We know that small-market teams that have less opportunity to create revenue will not be profitable on a stand-alone basis. The large-market teams are willing to share more revenue in parcel with the new agreement. We also have to insure that it’s not just teams writing checks to other teams. We need to write in built-in incentives.For example, in New York, the Knicks are investing $900 million to renovate Madison Square Garden. The Nets are investing $800 million in a new arena in Brooklyn. There have to be appropriate incentives for teams to do that. If there weren’t, they’re not going to invest that kind of money.
We need a balance. We have a separate committee, a planning committee on revenue-sharing. We need to share more than we have now, but we also don’t want a system where teams are writing checks as a function of market size.
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Ilyasova suffered a concussion during practice.
So, yeah.
The Artist Formerly known as Speedingtime/Speedy
Another one?
Our team must have soft heads or something…crazy how often this has happened.
by Frank Madden on Feb 26, 2011 6:49 PM CST up reply actions
With the low morale of Bucks fans...
… I wouldn’t be surprised to see a lot of Bulls fans in the crowd like the Jordan years.
by Brick's house on Feb 26, 2011 6:55 PM CST via mobile reply actions
It's about sold out
And apparently it’s like 2/3 Bulls fans…
The Artist Formerly known as Speedingtime/Speedy
by Jacob Grinyer on Feb 26, 2011 6:56 PM CST up reply actions
Bogut not looking good tonight.
Not having an impact on either end.
by Brick's house on Feb 26, 2011 7:56 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Looks like Skiles' pep talk really paid off
The Artist Formerly known as Speedingtime/Speedy
by Jacob Grinyer on Feb 26, 2011 7:56 PM CST up reply actions
That he is
An offensive game? What is this?
The Artist Formerly known as Speedingtime/Speedy
by Jacob Grinyer on Feb 26, 2011 7:58 PM CST up reply actions
Looks like it is just you and me, Speedy.
by Brick's house on Feb 26, 2011 8:03 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Nah, I'm still speedy
The Artist Formerly known as Speedingtime/Speedy
by Jacob Grinyer on Feb 26, 2011 8:07 PM CST up reply actions
Bucks games haven't been all that fun to watch the last few weeks
Been a little frustrating and depressing
I'm here though
Impressed because Maggete assisted Sanders while going to the rim. Maybe Alec was right about him when he wrote he was starting to share the ball…
Sad Panda Bogut has appeared again
The Artist Formerly known as Speedingtime/Speedy
by Jacob Grinyer on Feb 26, 2011 8:10 PM CST up reply actions
All technology from the BC is probably left over from the early 90s
The Artist Formerly known as Speedingtime/Speedy
by Jacob Grinyer on Feb 26, 2011 8:32 PM CST up reply actions
Good to see the cult of Derrick Rose is alive and well.
The Artist Formerly known as Speedingtime/Speedy
Stacy King keeps talking about Bogut having a tough night offensively...
… I guess he doesn’t realize this is par for the course this year. BTW, I can’t stand him as an announcer. As bad at that as he was as a player.
by Brick's house on Feb 26, 2011 8:20 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Wonderful,
Lost ball on offense turns into an instant fast break and layup for the Bulls.
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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Feb 26, 2011 8:23 PM CST reply actions
Par for the course.
The Artist Formerly known as Speedingtime/Speedy
by Jacob Grinyer on Feb 26, 2011 8:23 PM CST up reply actions
Jennings with 4, just his second basket of the game.
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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Feb 26, 2011 8:23 PM CST reply actions
I thought CDR was.
The Artist Formerly known as Speedingtime/Speedy
by Jacob Grinyer on Feb 26, 2011 8:25 PM CST up reply actions
The Prince has 3 fouls.
In the 2nd quarter. Draw your own conclusions…
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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Feb 26, 2011 8:24 PM CST reply actions
0 contact
and a foul. Great call, refs. He didn’t even TOUCH him.
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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Feb 26, 2011 8:25 PM CST reply actions
Flopperino.
The Artist Formerly known as Speedingtime/Speedy
by Jacob Grinyer on Feb 26, 2011 8:25 PM CST up reply actions
Boozer with a loose-ball foul on the rebound.
Oops.
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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Feb 26, 2011 8:25 PM CST reply actions
This 2nd Q is depressing after a good start.
by Brick's house on Feb 26, 2011 8:25 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Brockman hits the first free throw.
And the 2nd.
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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Feb 26, 2011 8:26 PM CST reply actions
We seem inclined to let the Bulls get open on the perimeter
and they’re making us pay for it.
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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Feb 26, 2011 8:27 PM CST reply actions
Offensive foul.
About time.
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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Feb 26, 2011 8:27 PM CST reply actions
Delfino gets a long two to fall.
38-37 Bulls.
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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Feb 26, 2011 8:28 PM CST reply actions
Travel on Boozer.
Wastes what had been a ridiculous Chicago possession…
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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Feb 26, 2011 8:28 PM CST reply actions
Put a picture of the Lombardi trophy on the big screen plz.
The Artist Formerly known as Speedingtime/Speedy
Bucks lead!
Delfino with a sweet move and lay-in. 39-38.
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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Feb 26, 2011 8:31 PM CST reply actions
Bad pass, turnover on the Bulls.
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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Feb 26, 2011 8:31 PM CST reply actions
Tie game at the half.
39-39. Still, considering the way the Bulls came out firing in the 2nd, that’s pretty good.
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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Feb 26, 2011 8:34 PM CST reply actions
The Bucks are outshooting the Bulls by 5%? HOW IS THIS POSSIBLE?
The Artist Formerly known as Speedingtime/Speedy
It would seem that way
Can they use their Godly powers to rid the BC of the Bulls fans?
The Artist Formerly known as Speedingtime/Speedy
by Jacob Grinyer on Feb 26, 2011 8:52 PM CST up reply actions
Nice shot by Salmons.
42-39.
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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Feb 26, 2011 8:52 PM CST reply actions
Salmons hit that 3 w Bogans in his grill.
by Brick's house on Feb 26, 2011 8:52 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Dawg.
The Artist Formerly known as Speedingtime/Speedy
by Jacob Grinyer on Feb 26, 2011 8:54 PM CST up reply actions
Mbah a Moute is 6 of 7 shooting!
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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Feb 26, 2011 8:55 PM CST reply actions
Damn. Rose hits a 3 on the other end.
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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Feb 26, 2011 8:55 PM CST reply actions
Bucks answer immediately.
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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Feb 26, 2011 8:56 PM CST reply actions
And then Rose does...
The Artist Formerly known as Speedingtime/Speedy
by Jacob Grinyer on Feb 26, 2011 8:56 PM CST up reply actions
It is embarrassing to see Bulls fans dancing around with MVP signs in Milwaukee.
by Brick's house on Feb 26, 2011 8:57 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Just like any sports fans from Chicago,
if their city is so good why don’t they stay there?
"I haven't been out carousing." -Aaron Rodgers
Chicagoians LOVE Wisconsin that much.
The Artist Formerly known as Speedingtime/Speedy
by Jacob Grinyer on Feb 26, 2011 9:03 PM CST up reply actions
Derrick Rose is actually my favorite player in the NBA
so I don’t mind it as much haha
by ThroughBeingCool on Feb 26, 2011 9:03 PM CST up reply actions
Are the Bucks your favorite team?
If so, that is like me saying I love the Green Bay Packers, but Cutler is my favorite player in the NFL.
"I haven't been out carousing." -Aaron Rodgers
Or, I love the Indiana Pacers, but Richard Hamilton is my favorite player in the NBA...
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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Feb 26, 2011 9:07 PM CST up reply actions
well the Bucks and Bulls really isn't a rivalry other than the fact they are two cities in close proximity
I mean, Michael Jordan was my favorite player growing up. Bucks are my favorite team, but I also root for individual players.
by ThroughBeingCool on Feb 26, 2011 9:44 PM CST up reply actions
I'm a one team kind of guy.
There are players I enjoy watching and I had favorite players from other teams as a kid, but it is Bucks all the way for me.
"I haven't been out carousing." -Aaron Rodgers
WGN
Has some outdated graphics. The Halftime Bucks logo was purple. They changed that in 2006.
"I haven't been out carousing." -Aaron Rodgers
Ugh.
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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Feb 26, 2011 9:02 PM CST reply actions
Please, Bucks, let Bogut have his surgery and move on.
This team ain’t going anywhere.
The Artist Formerly known as Speedingtime/Speedy
surprised the Bucks are only down 7
not surprised that Salmons is 3-10 haha
by ThroughBeingCool on Feb 26, 2011 9:03 PM CST reply actions
That shot just looked like a disaster coming out of Boozer's hands...
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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Feb 26, 2011 9:05 PM CST reply actions
Wow. Salmons with a GIANT block!
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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Feb 26, 2011 9:06 PM CST reply actions
Technical on Jennings.
NO DUMB DECISIONS!
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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Feb 26, 2011 9:08 PM CST reply actions
Ugly.
This quarter has completely gotten away from us. But that’s what happens when you don’t get consistent offense.
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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Feb 26, 2011 9:16 PM CST reply actions
Found this on RealGM in relation to the Bogut-Skiles article, I think it's pretty relevant.
The Artist Formerly known as Speedingtime/Speedy
The rim clearly hates us.
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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Feb 26, 2011 9:22 PM CST reply actions
Salmons for THREE!
3:56 remaining, down 7.
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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Feb 26, 2011 9:36 PM CST reply actions
Great, Ashton Kutcher for 3...
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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Feb 26, 2011 9:39 PM CST reply actions
Kutcher again with a long 2...
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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Feb 26, 2011 9:41 PM CST reply actions
Great. The Bradley Center has been jacked.
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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Feb 26, 2011 9:44 PM CST reply actions
Delfino sucked, but still manages to get 30+mins.
Season END already
by BuckEm on Feb 26, 2011 9:52 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Not like the Bucks have anybody better to turn to.
The Artist Formerly known as Speedingtime/Speedy
by Jacob Grinyer on Feb 26, 2011 9:54 PM CST up reply actions
This season must be what hell is like.
Bulls fans chanting MVP in our own building was only the pinnacle. Wonder where Bogut goes from here, or if this final injury is the one that does it.
The Artist Formerly known as Speedingtime/Speedy
I think losing to the Pistons at home was way worse.
The Bulls are a damn good team this year. But the Pistons? You should never lose to them at home. And we did anyway. ARGH!
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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Feb 26, 2011 10:02 PM CST up reply actions
And they are next
If their players show up.
by toasterrebound on Feb 27, 2011 11:02 AM CST up reply actions
shut her down
That," says LeBron, "is for everyone that watches me play. They witness something special. You're all a witness.
So now Bogut is a girl?!
I knew he was playing bad but geez.. ;)
The Artist Formerly known as Speedingtime/Speedy
by Jacob Grinyer on Feb 26, 2011 10:44 PM CST up reply actions
hey hey collectively I meant ;)
still it’s getting to that point with Bogut, he just seems to be getting worse, and mentally he seems a bit out of it, and I imagine with Bogut thats always the main worry
That," says LeBron, "is for everyone that watches me play. They witness something special. You're all a witness.
hard to shut your main big guy down when er you dont have a back up big man
something they want to address after spending a decent amount on FA’s last year and still not filling many positions
That," says LeBron, "is for everyone that watches me play. They witness something special. You're all a witness.
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