Kings 97 Bucks 90: Royally flushed

MILWAUKEE -- Unbelievable.
With the new, old starting five back in place, the Bucks had just won two games in a row. They scored in triple digits both times. The fourth worst team in the NBA was in town. And their best player was unavailable. This was not only a game that Milwaukee had to win, but a game they very oddly seemed sure to win.
Scott Skiles, before the game:
We've got to play our game. It's obviously another game we have to win, we can't have a setback. Nothing against Sacramento, but a team with their record we can't have a setback against, especially at home. We've got to come out and win this game.
Instead, the Bucks came out and won the first quarter. And lost the rest of the quarters, and lost the game, in a lost season. A high-energy start led by Carlos Delfino and Luc Mbah a Moute gave way to a progressively and criminally lame final couple hours of basketball.
The culmination was watching the adored starting five shoot, pass, and bump its way out of the game. Delfino drained a three with 3:58 remaining to draw within two points at 89-87. After that, the team only scored three more -- another Delfino hit with 1:10 to go. Other than that? Brandon Jennings was invisible other than missing a three-pointer. Luc Mbah a Moute was not an option. John Salmons missed a jumper and a three. And Andrew Bogut committed two offensive fouls -- the first one a moving screen for Jennings with the Bucks down 92-90 -- within the final 43 seconds.
If you are still watching, this was all too believable.
Three Bucks
Carlos Delfino. Carlitos played his first 373 NBA games without reaching 30 points. Since then, he has hit the mark twice in a row. Delfino's 12-point first quarter masked problems elsewhere, but those problems were not on his account. More of the same gamebreaking defense (four steals) we have seen all month along with pretty solid man-to-man stuff by Carlos. Couple that with on another career night on the offensive side and you have someone who Coach Skiles could find no reason to sub out at any point during the final three quarters of the game. Delfino played all but one minute and eight seconds tonight. This was another dead-eye shooting night (5-9 on threes) for Carlos, but he also knifed his way to the basket for a couple hoops in the first quarter, moved off the ball well, and drained a couple of clutch threes as his teammates choked away the game.
Larry Sanders. Stood out in all of the good ways. This was the kind of night when the dribble-through-the-legs, turnaround, fadeaway was falling. And an emboldened Sanders is hit-or-miss, but this was all hit. He made jumpers, he confidently took on Demarcus Cousins one-on-one on a fast break, and along with Delfino was the only Buck to not look like a rookie at some point in the game. Stats do not tell the whole story, but three blocks and two steals in 15 minutes paint the picture of havoc that Sanders drew on the defensive end.
Luc Mbah a Moute. Scored nine points in the first quarter, two points in the second quarter, and none in the second half. But if the Bucks cannot figure out how to beat Sacramento at home without getting more than 11 from The Prince, then this is a lost cause. And it is.
Three Numbers
54-34. The Kings outscored the Bucks 54-34 in the paint. Even in the feel-good first quarter, Sacramento piled up 16 points (8-11 shooting) in the paint, a major red flag going forward. The Kings entered the night fourth in the NBA in points per game in the paint, averaging 44.7. The Bucks are last.
22/4. The starting frontline of Andrew Bogut and Luc Mbah a Moute combined for 22 points in the first half -- 11 each. In the second half, they added up four (all Bogut) together. Neither player scored in the fourth quarter (Salmons also did not score in the fourth).
17. Before the game, Coach Skiles warned about how Sacramento won the battle of the boards in the first matchup earlier this season:
They've got big bodies and hurt us in Sacramento, pretty much dominated us on the glass.
The Kings hauled in 17 offensive rebounds and outrebounded Milwaukee 47-32 overall tonight.
2. After disrupting and pushing their way to seven fastbreak points in the first quarter, the Bucks accumulated just two more fastbreak points in the final three quarters. The Kings allow 17.1 fastbreak points per game, third most in the NBA.
Three Good
Three Bad
Windyiana. The Pacers destroyed the Bobcats 111-88 this evening, pushing the Bucks back to a full 3.0 games behind for the last playoff spot.
Backcourt blues. The Bucks have been Beno'd before. Historically Udrih plays better against Milwaukee than against anyone else -- he came into tonight averaging 12.3 points and shooting 56.8 % on threes in 12 career games against the Bucks. So Udrih's (25/6/6) utter domination of Brandon Jennings (6/4/6) in every facet of the game was highly disappointing but not inconceivable. Unfortunately, Marcus Thornton (27/6/4) also made the previously-hot John Salmons (8/4/3) look like he was born in 1969 instead of 1979. The normally soft-spoken and reserved Salmons earned a technical for dissent tonight and was particularly despondent after the game. The quote that really stuck out, when asked about both the team's play and his individual play:
It's a shame.
And when Milwaukee turned to its backups the results were even more dreadful -- Keyon Dooling (1-6) and Earl Boykins (2-7) were comedically errant and error-prone. I am not sure how Corey Maggette is supposed to work his way back into the rotation, but all of the guards were experts on how to play themselves out of a rotation.
Starting five. A hopeless final hope.
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At the ball
They went to the masquerade ball as RI, Really Improved. But before the night was over, the costume was disheveled and the real character showed through in many places: SD, Still Dysfunctional.
May sound ludicrous, but I still assert they’re better basketball players than the stumble-bums we see on the court. How is it that players who want to win and want to play as a team can fail so completely at both? If they were writers, I might call it writers’ block. If they were lovers, I’d call it impotence.
Oof.
That’s scathing. Accurate, but scathing.
"Finished putting together an Excel spreadsheet at work? BELT. Finally managed to open that uncooperative jar of mayonnaise? BELT. We're all champions in our own ways, my friends." - Frank Madden, BrewHoop
by Mitchell Maurer on Mar 24, 2011 6:41 AM CDT up reply actions
these guys are goooooood
just when you think they are turning it around, they sucker punch you right in the gut with a loss to the Kings
That," says LeBron, "is for everyone that watches me play. They witness something special. You're all a witness.
Time to cue Don Meredith singing
Turn out the lights the party’s over
"You play anybody and if they shoot 70 per cent from three, they're going to be tough to beat." More wise words from Chris Bosh
party sucked anyways
That," says LeBron, "is for everyone that watches me play. They witness something special. You're all a witness.
BUT..at least the "starting five" played together again. That's what's important, right do-or-die Skiles?
Gotta say that Milwaukee fans are true ones. They don’t even QUESTON if tthis coaching may be suspect. Go Bucks.
Yes we do.
The Artist Formerly known as Speedingtime/Speedy
by Jacob Grinyer on Mar 24, 2011 8:48 AM CDT up reply actions
Groups multiply shared individual qualities
To continue my At the Ball post:
I’m convinced lack of on-court leadership (and perhaps disconnect from the coaching) accounts for some of the dysfunction, but it is deep enough and pervasive enough that perhaps there are other causes. Groups multiply the shared individual qualities of its members. Maybe its the hive effect, or maybe not. :-)
Perhaps what our group shares is the mental inability to compete, the lack of a winner’s streak. Maybe Hammond, in shopping for his bargain players, is blind to the lack of winner’s streak.
Maybe we’ve accumulated a roster of men who reinforce each others proclivity for losing.
Typically Hammond is blamed for not acquiring Talent. On a shoestring budget, talent is hard to acquire. But in the world of athletics, there are winner types and their are loser types. Maybe Hammond is type-blind.
The Kings are a bad team. But I saw something in them last night I didn’t see in our team. Partly it was a look in the eyes. As bad as they are, they looked like predators.
And we looked like prey.
Interesting
Without delving too much into pyschology, I think there IS something to the demeanor thing. BJ shows that zeal once in a while, but any team that expects to be led by a 21-22 year old is fooling themselves. I am not sure if you can really qauntify “winner” types and “loser” types. Does a player who always plays on a losing team automatically a “loser” type? Same with a winning team?
I truly think that “talent” is the real issue, as everything flows from that. We are “average” at almost every position. Herb Kohl, John Hammond, et al have to decide what type of team they want here, because this constant re-tooling and switching gears is getting tiresome. Do you build a team to fit the coach? Do to get the players you want and make the coach adjust? It’s a delicate balance.
I am certain there will be further pontification as the season winds down. I just wish we wouldn’t be in tweener mode – not good enough for the playoffs and not bad enough for the lotter.
"Interesting" back at you...
I like basketball because its a team game. Not because it’s a “fight.” Testosterone rising. But if I try to be honest right now, I think the difference between Winner and Loser may be that some animals are Predators (aggressive, attacking, quick to seize advantage) and some are Prey. I don’t think our roster has the kind of predators that can lead the effort to seize victory.
Jennings may be a predator, but he’s just out of the nest. Bogut has moments of dominance, but not many, and they come and go erratically. Salmons is a passive guy who tries to assert, and is thus out of character. Delfino is a wild card.
If I owned the Bucks, I would have no idea what can be done to make them a talented team. It’s a distant goal, and there aren’t many resources. I thought Milwaukee’s best shot was to combine players who would make the whole greater than the sum of the parts. I think Hammond was trying to do that, but its failed.
Not sure I’ll like the coming off-season. But there are a ton of things that may happen.
I agree
We have too many passive players. But I still think “talent” trumps all of that. Maybe one is a subset of the other. Michael Jordan is the best ever because he was A) the most talented and B) the most competitive.
I don’t fault Hammond too much for what he tried. I think he knows that Bogut is one more injury away from the Old NBA Centers Home. He may have thought himself to be in a bit of a hurry, trying to accumulate parts to add to what he “thought” was a legitimate contender to-be.
Headlines
I saw these headlines posted at the JS site:
Japanese war hopes take hit after Hiroshima bombing
Kennedy re-election chances falter after Dallas trip
Twin towers “shaky” after plane crashes
Nation optimistic after Bush election win
I will add to this:
Bucks plan playoff run, two weeks from today.
Is Delfinos contract coming up? He seems to be doing the John Salmons thing.
:-)
Delfino’s contract has (I think) a year to go. But it’s not guaranteed. So he has to show he deserves it.
Although, on a second’s reflection, he might prefer not to be back with this crowd.
Delfino's recent success scares the crap out of me
I do not want to re-sign him, under ANY circumstances. We have to get out of this mode of “we have to bring this guy back” after a season in which the team stunk up the joint. That would be straight out of the Larry Harris GM Playbook.
Granted, injuries and such played a big part in this season’s disapppointments. But to quote Dennis Green, former Arizona Cardinals head coach “They are what we thought they were”
Delfino may have other motivations
than just being resigned by Milwaukee. In August he will play with NT in Argentina for Olympics qualification. Usually the sixth man behind Ginobili and Nocioni, I sense this time he’s fighting to be part of the starting five. (Personally, I think he deserves it; and more important, it would be better for us if he pairs with Manu.)
That said, I believe he will continue to improve as a player. He’s done that since he arrived to Milwaukee and I believe he will continue to do so. If team deveolpment continues and he stays, he will end being the Scottie Pippen to whoever turns to be the Jordan.
Beno is the new Lou Williams
That," says LeBron, "is for everyone that watches me play. They witness something special. You're all a witness.
moute
OK, I know people are starting to throw in the towel and reluctant to sign anyone from this crew for more than the price of a cup of coffee, an understandable sentiment. However, Moute is our toughest and most consistent competitor and our best defender (yes, including Bogut). He is a RFA we must keep. If we let him walk, we are sending a signal that other factors besides competitiveness drive our decisions, not only to our fans but to the other players and to the league.
What offers will Moute get?
If he finishes the season with the emerging offense he’s shown lately he could attract attention.
So one has to decide how much to match, and what to pass on.
Plus, any Buck esp one “from” LA may wish to go elsewhere.
The Bucks will probably panic and offer him a 7 million per year deal.
Always happens.
The Artist Formerly known as Speedingtime/Speedy
by Jacob Grinyer on Mar 24, 2011 2:33 PM CDT up reply actions
The Bucks can't handle unrestricted FA
they buckle to the pressure, but hopefully they won’t make another restricted FA mistake like they did with Ramon Sessions. That is, of course, if John Hammond understands that LRMAM is restricted.
When you talk about the contracts offered or agreed to, I’d say you have to talk about Kohl/Hammond making the decisions. I think a lot of the spending comes from Herb.
One thing in their favour
With a new CBA and a hard cap(If it comes)will make some teams unable to sign FAs which would mean a glut and salaries fall.
"You play anybody and if they shoot 70 per cent from three, they're going to be tough to beat." More wise words from Chris Bosh
It would be rediculous
if the Bucks didn’t pick up Delfino’s option next year. There aren’t many great rookie prospects and there aren’t many good UFAs either. A few decent RFAs but forget about that. As far as Delfino goes, even if they don’t want the guy, he’s fairly decent trade bait as a 3.5mil S&T or expring contract.
It would be equally rediculous for the Bucks not to resign LRMAM. or get a S&T on him either. I just don’t see that happening.
you would hope they get both em on the books for the future..........
be a nice change to pay some players that actually produce
That," says LeBron, "is for everyone that watches me play. They witness something special. You're all a witness.
Personally, I don't care if they keep either one of them
as long as they don’t let them walk for free.
Delfino TBH
Has produced this year for a week. Maybe he’s just getting over his injuries or maybe he just got hot. use the option for one more year if you must but don’t go long-term please.
"You play anybody and if they shoot 70 per cent from three, they're going to be tough to beat." More wise words from Chris Bosh
getting hot for a week puts him a step ahead of his team mates who have been ice cold the whole year
pretty scary when u think about it
That," says LeBron, "is for everyone that watches me play. They witness something special. You're all a witness.
Some players don't get chances like him though
"You play anybody and if they shoot 70 per cent from three, they're going to be tough to beat." More wise words from Chris Bosh
Sorry, Delfino is a keeper
His acquisition is easily Hammond’s best move (well, re-signing Bogut was huge). Players like Delfino and Mbah a Moute are the glue that will bring this team together if we can ever ditch all of this dead weight. Remember, dude is only 28 and he brings the clutch shooting and defense that this team desperately needs. His finger roll would bring tears to Zombie Dr. J’s (controlled by the Zombie Master, Stern) eyes. His love for the game is apparent in every movement. We should do whatever we can to keep him on this team (well, not a max contract naturally).
by MadTown Hoops on Mar 25, 2011 11:26 AM CDT up reply actions
+11111111111111111111
That," says LeBron, "is for everyone that watches me play. They witness something special. You're all a witness.
You forget about the Bucks' secret weapon, Darrington Hobson, toiling away in a gym somewhere, breaking in his newly repaired hips.
He will be the second coming of Paul Pressey and blow the Bucks away whenever the lockout is over. Hey, you gotta have faith in the future when the present is so depressing.
by Brick's house on Mar 24, 2011 4:08 PM CDT up reply actions
His hips don't lie.
The Artist Formerly known as Speedingtime/Speedy
by Jacob Grinyer on Mar 24, 2011 4:11 PM CDT up reply actions
one of several funny lines in this thread
a little M.A.S.H. humor I guess
I always like to put my faith in surgically repaired body parts
That," says LeBron, "is for everyone that watches me play. They witness something special. You're all a witness.
You wouldn't be a Bucks fan if you didn't.
by Brick's house on Mar 24, 2011 5:46 PM CDT up reply actions
it would help of we had prior evidence that he didnt suck with the original parts in tact
That," says LeBron, "is for everyone that watches me play. They witness something special. You're all a witness.
The Writing on the Wall
Says ditch Jennings as soon as possible. This team cannot afford an undersized, no offense, no efficiency, no playmaking backcourt. Hindsight and all that, but I wish we had taken Ty Lawson. We should go all in on moving up the draft to get Kemba Walker.
So, does anyone have confidence in Hammond right now? I don’t see a plan. I see a kindly gramps figure who is in well over his head and clings to dated archetypes. I haven’t noticed a zeal for statistics or talent evaluation. I guess I lost faith in him with that Maggette trade. This season is like a worst case scenario. Limbo.
I think this season is making me bipolar
by MadTown Hoops on Mar 24, 2011 10:31 PM CDT up reply actions
understandable really, usually when teams are stuck around 30 wins they are generally average at most things
the Bucks on the other hand are still very good on one end of the court, while once they cross the other line and get onto offense its like they have no plan
That," says LeBron, "is for everyone that watches me play. They witness something special. You're all a witness.
That onion article hit way too close to home
http://www.onionsportsnetwork.com/articles/confused-milwaukee-bucks-have-no-idea-what-to-do-a,19328/
by MadTown Hoops on Mar 25, 2011 8:49 AM CDT up reply actions
nice
kinda scary that is actually close to reality, we know what to do once we dont have the ball, its once we get thats the major problem
That," says LeBron, "is for everyone that watches me play. They witness something special. You're all a witness.
lets forget the lock out for a sec
you would assume/hope/pray that in the off season we work on some cohesive offense, we dont need/expect the spectacular but something that fits the team and it personnel and is viable, a decently functioning offense and we are around the the mark again
That," says LeBron, "is for everyone that watches me play. They witness something special. You're all a witness.
We need a big man who can both shoot the J and crash down low
In other words, a Kevin Love, David West, Dirk Nowitzki type. I have some hope for Sanders, but he’s so raw. He looks like he’s guided by the laws of ragdoll physics sometimes.
Does anyone know why Jennings doesn’t lob oops in-game? He showed a propensity in summer league and there’s no better way to fire up a crowd and make an offense comfortable. Is it Skiles? Is Skiles making it hard on players by getting too into his players’ heads, trying to get them to play the right way instead of the fun way?
by MadTown Hoops on Mar 25, 2011 9:18 AM CDT up reply actions
My problem with Jennings has been his unmerited overconfidence (arrogance, really)
Like when he was asked by a reporter if he’d participate in Summer League and he just scoffed, like such dalliances were beneath the likes of him. Then he showed up on a lark wearing a designer suit and a Shrek watch. He doesn’t seem to have that “get better every year” drive that the greatest are known for. If this is it, I’m ready to move on.
by MadTown Hoops on Mar 25, 2011 9:22 AM CDT up reply actions
hey hey how can question someone who......
names their sneaker after the air freshner in their camaro its genius
That," says LeBron, "is for everyone that watches me play. They witness something special. You're all a witness.
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