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MILWAUKEE -- At the same time Derrick Rose bursted the Bradley Center with style points, the Bucks did not have any points at all.

And while it took longer than expected, Rose winning the game for Chicago while Milwaukee's offense lost the game for the Bucks was the most logical, most obvious conclusion long before the game started.

Before the Bulls ended the game on a 12-0 run, things were pretty peachy. Facing the top-ranked defensive team in the NBA, the Bucks improbably scored 25, 23, and 26 points in the first three quarters. Carlos Delfino had the hot hand early, John Salmons carried the middle of the game, and the fourth quarter started with what was a wire-to-wire lead and five-point advantage. But Milwaukee saved its worst for last, missing its final seven field goals over the final five minutes of the game. That stretch coincided with a mesmerizing display of point guard perfection by Rose, who scored (10 points) or assisted (2 assists) on every single Chicago basket in those decisive final five minutes.

Five minutes away from a win, less than four weeks left in the season, three more home games, two games out of the playoffs, one basketball team short on hope...

Star-divide

Three Bucks

Carlos Delfino. After netting 5-7 three-pointers tonight, Carlitos has made a nutty 26 threes in the last five games on 61.3 % accuracy. Delfino's three-point shooting is (rightfully, to an extent) overshadowing the rest of his contributions, but active defense, increased rebounding, and competent ballhandling as well as playmaking duties are among those "rest of his contributions."

John Salmons. The fourth quarter (0-5 shooting, 0 points in 11 minutes) makes it very, very difficult for me to type nice things about Salmons. But through three quarters he was the star of the night on the leading team. Salmons got bendy around the hoop, disguising his lack of athleticism by expertly using the rim to shield defenders away from him. He made pull-ups off the dribble like it was 2010. And he gave Coach Skiles no reason to turn to Mike Redd. It was vintage Salmons... until it was just plain old old Salmons.

Andrew Bogut. If these choices were made relative to my expectations and hopes, Bogut's name would be here. He did not continue his four-game run of scoring at least 13 points (he scored 9), he did not outplay Joakim Noah, and he did not lift his team either offensively or defensively when they needed it so badly late in the fourth quarter. But Andrew Bogut being Andrew Bogut and going back and forth for 38 minutes on a basketball court tends to make him one of the three best players (out of eight total) by default on these types of nights.

Three Numbers

42.9 % Before the game, Coach Skiles made the observations that (coming into the game) the Bulls were holding opponents to 42.9 % shooting, and that the Bucks were shooting 42.9 %. Skiles said that the Bucks would have to shoot better than that to win. The Bucks shot 39.2 %. The Bucks, in related news, did not win.

7. Derrick Rose had more assists (7) in the third quarter than any Buck had in the entire game (Brandon Jennings had 5).

0. The Bucks missed 16 shots in the fourth quarter, and yet they did not score a single second-chance point in the final 12 minutes. The Bucks secured exactly zero offensive rebounds in the fourth quarter, and shot 0-3 on second-chance point opportunities. The Bucks also did not score a fastbreak point in the fourth quarter, while the Bulls racked up 8 on the break.

Three Good

First 43 minutes. Not quite all 43, but the Bucks controlled (or at least led) this game until very, very late. Playing at home but not with a home-court advantage against the team with the best record in the East on the second night of a back-to-back, the Bucks were not overmatched whatsoever until the final couple minutes of the game. In fact, they led the entire game until less than two minutes remained. So as much as Derrick Rose took the game, the Bucks gave it away.

Carlito's Way. There was a time this season when Delfino's entire basketball career moving forward was a murky matter. So it is quite wonderful that he is not only back, but playing some of the very best NBA ball of his career of late.

Keeping Pace. The Pacers meekly lost to the Pistons (something the Bucks have also mastered) tonight, so Milwaukee remains just 2.0 games behind them for the final spot. Although, the Bobcats won against the Knicks (as is the rule), so the Bucks are also 1.5 behind them now. Charlotte might end up being the #8 seed despite being on record as not wanting to the #8 seed.

In Jordan's words, the Bobcats didn't "want to be the seventh or eighth seed" every season, and while I wish he would have effused that sentiment years ago while putting together a win-now team for 2010, this is the right course of action.

Three Bad

Fourth quarter flop. Right when Derrick Rose and Ronnie Brewer (seriously) were taking over the game for Chicago, it was Brandon Jennings and John Salmons who were losing it for Milwaukee. Granted, just about everyone on both teams played a part, but the team's respective backcourts were the most striking examples of what went right for Chicago and wrong for Milwaukee.

Jennings and Salmons missed everything in the fourth quarter -- together they shot 0-9 and missed all four shots under three minutes. The Bucks went mostly static late in the game after some really excellent dribble-penetration in the prior three quarters. Salmons was particularly infuriating late in the game. With 2:32 to go and the Bucks still up 87-85, he missed a jumper. On the team's next offensive possession, with the game now tied 87-87, he let the ball slip out of his hands and out of bounds. Then, after Rose gave Chicago its first lead at 89-87, Salmons was stuffed by Joakim Noah.

They missed some very makeable shots, but that line is played out, because there are reasons why Chicago boasts the top-ranked defense and there reasons why Milwaukee is a terrible offensive team -- and none of them are because Bucks players have shots unluckily rim out at some disproportionate rate.

Crowded. The atmosphere in the Bradley Center was amazing for a couple reasons. First, the team sold out (18,717) the BC for the third time this season, and the split allegiances of the fans made everyone on both sides cheer harder and louder. That lent a special, meaningful feeling to the game. But it was also amazing that the Bulls fans outnumbered Bucks fans in their own building, at least in terms of noisiness and color-coordination. As such, this would go in "Three Good" if this was a Bulls website. Alas ("used as an exclamation to express sorrow, grief, pity, concern, or apprehension of evil"), we gluttons for punishment watch and write and read about the Bucks.

Rotation issues. The starters are set at this point. I don't anticipate Skiles switching things up after some pretty credible performances by Jennings/Salmons/Delfino/Mbah a Moute/Bogut over the past couple weeks. And while Larry Sanders, Keyon Dooling, and Jon Brockman did not play so well tonight as a whole, they have done a reasonable job in the last few weeks. But with big-ish names like Corey Maggette, Michael Redd, and Drew Gooden now active but not yet playing, Coach Skiles has a delicate situation to deal with, particularly as the team clings to fading playoff hopes.

With the team finally having more than 12 healthy players to choose from, Skiles had to pick a healthy player for the inactive list, and just in case you weren't already sure where he falls on the depth chart, Chris Douglas-Roberts was that inactive player tonight. He was a low-price pickup, so there is not much harm in it, but that Douglas-Roberts did not pan out in Milwaukee is disappointing to me, as someone who was optimistic about his chances when he was signed. Then there is Redd, who as one of the top players in franchise history, is not a normal player to work back in. Before the game, Skiles, on Redd's status:

If you came and watched us practice, you could not pick out the guy that's been out that long from a conditioning standpoint. But there is no question too, that you know, that he is, I wouldn't say rusty, but timing, things like that have to occur. It would be nice right now if we could and have a week full of practices. But we are in the thick of a battle right now, so we can't experiment too much.

It's not like the Bucks have gotten incredible production from the two spot this year, but Salmons has been coming around somewhat lately, and Skiles has liked going with Dooling as the backup shooting guard for his ballhandling and defense, neither of which Redd offers. Then there is Gooden, who has been active but not playing for a couple games now. But with Mbah a Moute back in the starting five and Larry Sanders showing more and more, it is hard to envision what role he will play either. And Corey Maggette did not play again and hardly looks like a part of the future after playing two minutes over the past five games.

With just 10 games remaining this season, we don't anything know more than we did four months ago. And the little that we do know, we probably wish we didn't know.

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interesting to see how this situation with the veterans on the bench plays out

Redd, Maggette, Gooden……….thats alot of salary for nil production

That," says LeBron, "is for everyone that watches me play. They witness something special. You're all a witness.

by ILIKEBJ'S on Mar 27, 2011 4:43 AM CDT reply actions  

Maybe I'm over simplifying things

But if you play your starters around 75 minutes each on back-to-backs does it not follow that they might run out of gas. And it’s hard to produce when you’re on your ass on the bench.
Junior Bridgeman FTW

"You play anybody and if they shoot 70 per cent from three, they're going to be tough to beat." More wise words from Chris Bosh

by CanadaBucks on Mar 27, 2011 7:51 AM CDT reply actions  

I wonder how it feels for those last 200 or so Bobcats fans

Jordans comments are disgusting and would destroy my love for the team if I were a fan. It’s especially bad because the words are coming from Michael Jordan, a man whose rep as a legendary competitor should be on the line. Karma makes me hope that the Bobcats and Knicks get in, with Milwaukee and Indiana getting the first and second overall picks. Jordan seems like a guy desperate to move his team to Vegas or Atlantic City (Hey, it’s Jordan, he’s a cigar chomping, lecherous, gambling addicted jerk).

by MadTown Hoops on Mar 27, 2011 9:57 AM CDT reply actions  

Don't think the players agree with Mike

And….I never liked athletes that refer to themselves in the 3rd person.

"You play anybody and if they shoot 70 per cent from three, they're going to be tough to beat." More wise words from Chris Bosh

by CanadaBucks on Mar 27, 2011 10:11 AM CDT up reply actions  

Why is it disgusting?

The 8th seed is NBA hell. Not good enough to compete, not bad enough to get great impact players in the draft. I wish the Bucks would have done a similar thing early in the decade but It seems too late now. Jordan has the right idea.

The Artist Formerly known as Speedingtime/Speedy

"You want Josh McRoberts? You can't HANDLE Josh McRoberts!" --Sportscenter anchor

by Jacob Grinyer on Mar 27, 2011 10:13 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Because

It’s pro sports for which fans pay huge amounts of money and players and owners make a lot of money and it shouldn’t be to attempt to lose.

"You play anybody and if they shoot 70 per cent from three, they're going to be tough to beat." More wise words from Chris Bosh

by CanadaBucks on Mar 27, 2011 10:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

Well, then they can just not go to the games and watch them

And then come back when their team is contending…

The Artist Formerly known as Speedingtime/Speedy

"You want Josh McRoberts? You can't HANDLE Josh McRoberts!" --Sportscenter anchor

by Jacob Grinyer on Mar 27, 2011 10:25 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Well, then they can just not go to the games and watch them

And then come back when their team is contending…

The Artist Formerly known as Speedingtime/Speedy

"You want Josh McRoberts? You can't HANDLE Josh McRoberts!" --Sportscenter anchor

by Jacob Grinyer on Mar 27, 2011 10:25 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Double post fail

The Artist Formerly known as Speedingtime/Speedy

"You want Josh McRoberts? You can't HANDLE Josh McRoberts!" --Sportscenter anchor

by Jacob Grinyer on Mar 27, 2011 10:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

One things for fans to be fair-weather

But I don’t want my owner, GM or coach to go public and basically saying they don’t care if they win. I’ll give Skiles credit for coming out and saying that the Bucks need the playoffs to mature. Cuban is another a**hole owner who is basically saying they will be horrible when Dirk is gone. Do something about it then.

"You play anybody and if they shoot 70 per cent from three, they're going to be tough to beat." More wise words from Chris Bosh

by CanadaBucks on Mar 27, 2011 10:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

I get what he means actually, but you dont really come out and say it as the owner of the club I guess

That," says LeBron, "is for everyone that watches me play. They witness something special. You're all a witness.

by ILIKEBJ'S on Mar 27, 2011 12:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's not that they don't care if they win

It’s that before you have to win you have to lose.

The Artist Formerly known as Speedingtime/Speedy

"You want Josh McRoberts? You can't HANDLE Josh McRoberts!" --Sportscenter anchor

by Jacob Grinyer on Mar 27, 2011 12:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

Typically in sports

You talk about rebuilding when you have been winning for a while but are on a decline say like the pistons a few years ago. It’s up to the front office to recognize these changes, react to them and try to have a seamless as possible transition. Yes it’s cyclical and yes it happens but as you said to come right out and say it? And I’d still rather make the playoffs than not.

"You play anybody and if they shoot 70 per cent from three, they're going to be tough to beat." More wise words from Chris Bosh

by CanadaBucks on Mar 27, 2011 12:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed about the front office part.

Anyway, I’m okay with making the playoffs, It won’t kill me. I just personally don’t have a problem with an owner saying these things.

The Artist Formerly known as Speedingtime/Speedy

"You want Josh McRoberts? You can't HANDLE Josh McRoberts!" --Sportscenter anchor

by Jacob Grinyer on Mar 27, 2011 1:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Even though the Bucks were winning the whole game up until the end

It was still just hard to watch, mainly because of all the Chicagoians there. It was basically a Bulls home game.

The Artist Formerly known as Speedingtime/Speedy

"You want Josh McRoberts? You can't HANDLE Josh McRoberts!" --Sportscenter anchor

by Jacob Grinyer on Mar 27, 2011 10:40 AM CDT reply actions  

Bucks fans have become more passive

The cheers after the Delfino free throws were louder than the boos before he shot. But it’s not like the way it was in the old arena. They didn’t even boo during the Sacramento game. You heard the Knicks fans after they lost to us.

by toasterrebound on Mar 27, 2011 11:50 AM CDT reply actions  

Booing is not a measure of fandom

Milwaukee fans aren’t abusive assh*les like the majority of east coast fans. When Prince Fielder started his career with a slump, fans repeatedly gave him standing os until his first hit. A true fan supports a team and each player.

by MadTown Hoops on Mar 28, 2011 5:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

Not to be Ron Obvious or anything but

The next three games are likely the season for the Bucks. Charlotte Monday, the raps Wednesday and the Pacers on Friday. We win all 3 and supposing the Pacers split Detroit and Boston and the Cats split Orlando and the Cavs it would look like this going into Saturday

Bucks 32-43 .427
Pacers 33-44 .429
Cats 31-44 .413

Monday and Friday are definitely both must wins and you would hope they beat the Raps.

"You play anybody and if they shoot 70 per cent from three, they're going to be tough to beat." More wise words from Chris Bosh

by CanadaBucks on Mar 27, 2011 11:51 AM CDT reply actions  

I found this seasion that

When you think they’re back on the track to winning ….they’re not

And when you think they’re done……they’re not

After Friday I either keep on dreaming or abandon hope.

"You play anybody and if they shoot 70 per cent from three, they're going to be tough to beat." More wise words from Chris Bosh

by CanadaBucks on Mar 27, 2011 11:58 AM CDT reply actions  

Still a stretch

One 3 game winning streak all year I believe. They have to go 7-3 to make it. That hasn’t happened all year. A miracle would have to come from our returning players, who never seem to return.

by toasterrebound on Mar 27, 2011 12:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Or get off the bench so it seems

"You play anybody and if they shoot 70 per cent from three, they're going to be tough to beat." More wise words from Chris Bosh

by CanadaBucks on Mar 27, 2011 12:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

I agree it will be tough but

Of the 10 games I would say 6 are against teams either equal to or lesser than us, 1 is against a team a bit better than us(Sixers) and 3 against teams clearly superior. Of those 3 OKC and Orlando will probably have nothing to play for so it is possible. So I’ll keep the white flag down until at least Friday.

"You play anybody and if they shoot 70 per cent from three, they're going to be tough to beat." More wise words from Chris Bosh

by CanadaBucks on Mar 27, 2011 12:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Delfino was interviewed by both main Argentinean newspapers for their Sunday editions.

Both Clarin and La Nacion interviewed Carlos after Bucks win in NY, while covering Argentina’s soccer game vs. USA. Nothing really new. He talked about how much he enjoys playing after being afraid he wouldn’t do it anymore, going to the National team in August (he will be very happy to but now he has his mind in trying to get to playoffs), his soccer team Union, etc.

He was asked if Milwaukee will make the playoffs.

-It’s the idea. We can make no mistakes. We will have to fight until the last moment and don’t give anything up as lost. We’re focused in playing each remaining game as a final game.

by palomba on Mar 27, 2011 12:25 PM CDT reply actions  

I know it's a topic that has been worn out at this point but...

Why in the world does Skiles not even play his bench anymore? The one player off the bench he seems to use the most is Keyon Dooling, and I personally don’t like his game. He’s pretty good with the ball, but he can’t shoot at all and he never penetrates to the basket.

I’m not saying that CDR, and Maggette are necessarily game-changers or anything, but my goodness, he doesn’t even play them for ONE MINUTE. You could arguably add Sanders and Boykins to that list on most nights.

I understand that the full length of our depth is shortened with Gooden, Ilyasova, and Redd all being injured for a while but we still have considerable depth I’d say.
Wasn’t that what this team was built off of? The second team being arguably as good as the first? Constant pressure on the defense because the first and second team provided different playstyles?

Now we’re just back to what worked LAST year. BJ, Salmons, Delfino, LRMAM, and Bogut, with Ridnour and Ilyasova subbing in. That plain and simple just doesn’t work this year, because we don’t have a Ridnour, and Ilyasova is hurt, so we instead sub in Brockman. I like Brockman, but he is not nearly as good as Ilyasova is.

The starting 5 is undersized, but Luc is a beast so it works fairly well, but then your 2 subs that come in stink, so you go back to your starters for an unorthodox amount of minutes and think it will still work.

I just don’t even know what else to say. There is just no point for Skiles not to play his bench, when that was supposed to be the strength of this team.

It doesn’t have to be Dooling/Boykins, CDR, Maggette, Brockman, Sanders (all bench players) but you can at least make it a mix, like BJ, CDR, Maggette, Sanders, Bogut or something along those lines.

Sorry for the rant, just frustrated by this whole season. This team does not deserve a playoff spot, and I think that’s the biggest reason I don’t want them to make it. They do not deserve it.

Everyone just needs to Grillax a little bit...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xVod3uqtqgk

by jmeks23 on Mar 27, 2011 12:51 PM CDT reply actions  

+1000

Other than the part about not wanting them to make the playoffs, I believe Skiles has done a poor job of using people this year, Maggette was good for us when he was starting, now he doesn’t play. many games we have gone through stretches without scoring and you have a proven scorer like Maggette picking splinters. Ok he may not be the best defender and a bit of a turnover machine but he was brought here to score. BJ played around 85 minutes in back-to-back and he struggled in the 4th last night, any chance he was a bit gassed?
I wish the Maggette deal was never done and not because of Corey, just because we could have used Gadz and Bell this year to get someone Skiles might have used(Wallace?)

"You play anybody and if they shoot 70 per cent from three, they're going to be tough to beat." More wise words from Chris Bosh

by CanadaBucks on Mar 27, 2011 1:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed.

I almost feel like Skiles has undermined Hammond this year through some of his use of personnel.

As far as the playoffs thing, I obviously want the Bucks to be a winning franchise, but it just makes me sick that a team that is 29-43 is even in the playoff discussion. They haven’t even won 30 games and March is almost over. That’s sad for the NBA.

Everyone just needs to Grillax a little bit...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xVod3uqtqgk

by jmeks23 on Mar 27, 2011 1:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

it is the most underwhelming playoff run ever.......its like whomever is the least crappest gets the spot

the 8th playoff spot in the east is like a backhanded slap in the face

That," says LeBron, "is for everyone that watches me play. They witness something special. You're all a witness.

by ILIKEBJ'S on Mar 27, 2011 2:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

It may be the East

Has 5 teams better than 500

"You play anybody and if they shoot 70 per cent from three, they're going to be tough to beat." More wise words from Chris Bosh

by CanadaBucks on Mar 27, 2011 2:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think Every Bucks player except Skiles' preferred "starting five" has been viewed and utilized as tangential to the team's success.

Playing the same energy-challenged players excessive minutes (sometimes in back to back games ) seriously undermines productivity.The Bucks current record and standing have a lot to do with Skiles’ blinders-approach to which players are on the court at any given time. SEEMS PLAYER PERFORMANCE IS SECONDARY TO COACH’S PREFERENCE. It’s inexplicable and has surely hindered (maybe sabotaged) the Bucks efforts to win this season. I am a disappointed new fan.. With this current roster (and even allowing for player injuries) I had a reasonable expectation for a far better outcome. New coach needed IMO.

by CDRFORTHEWIN on Mar 27, 2011 3:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Skiles has his flaws, I agree

But he’s tried a ton of different lineups this season and it seems none of them work…I think It’s just a matter of the players we have. When Corey Maggette is your big off season addition on a Skiles team, you’re going to have problems.

If Skiles can’t get get a better group of players that fit his culture to win games, then maybe it’s time for a change, but for now I’d stick with him. We’ll see how next year goes.

The Artist Formerly known as Speedingtime/Speedy

"You want Josh McRoberts? You can't HANDLE Josh McRoberts!" --Sportscenter anchor

by Jacob Grinyer on Mar 27, 2011 3:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Or perhaps, Skiles may consider changing his "culture to win games". It seems not to work. Or perhaps I just don't understand what this coach's "culture for winning" is exactly.

Is it to develop and value a defense strategy to the exclusion of an offense strategy? Is it to sit players who have more offense than defense skills? OK, so Skiles’ team keeps the competitor from high scoring, but the Bucks still lose at a frightening rate. I don’t understand. To the uninitiated, Skiles strategy seems more like a “culture of losing”.

by CDRFORTHEWIN on Mar 27, 2011 3:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

hey hey CDR should be happy

he gets to sit on the bench for a team that has already won more than double the amount of games his last team won

That," says LeBron, "is for everyone that watches me play. They witness something special. You're all a witness.

by ILIKEBJ'S on Mar 27, 2011 3:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm sure he's ecstatic

SARCASM

"You play anybody and if they shoot 70 per cent from three, they're going to be tough to beat." More wise words from Chris Bosh

by CanadaBucks on Mar 27, 2011 4:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

what me ;)

also at least the guys on the bench can’t complain about not knowing their role now

That," says LeBron, "is for everyone that watches me play. They witness something special. You're all a witness.

by ILIKEBJ'S on Mar 27, 2011 4:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nothing to do with the game but

The Bucks are (predictably) the 2nd lowest viewed team locally in the NBA this year and down 28% from last year.

http://www.sportsbusinessdaily.com/Journal/Issues/2011/02/20110207/Media/NBA-ratings.aspx

Wow, the Wolves’ have gone up a lot. Kevin Love will do that for you.

The Artist Formerly known as Speedingtime/Speedy

"You want Josh McRoberts? You can't HANDLE Josh McRoberts!" --Sportscenter anchor

by Jacob Grinyer on Mar 27, 2011 1:31 PM CDT reply actions  

Do you think it would have made a difference

If the Vikes were better this year?

"You play anybody and if they shoot 70 per cent from three, they're going to be tough to beat." More wise words from Chris Bosh

by CanadaBucks on Mar 27, 2011 1:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's a good point

The Artist Formerly known as Speedingtime/Speedy

"You want Josh McRoberts? You can't HANDLE Josh McRoberts!" --Sportscenter anchor

by Jacob Grinyer on Mar 27, 2011 1:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

FSN North has a huge part in that

A lot more people watched Bucks games when they were accessible. Due to blackout, even my League Pass Subscription has limited me to one Bucks game all year, in Indiana.

by MadTown Hoops on Mar 27, 2011 3:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wow

Sacramento beating Philly in OT

"You play anybody and if they shoot 70 per cent from three, they're going to be tough to beat." More wise words from Chris Bosh

by CanadaBucks on Mar 27, 2011 1:58 PM CDT reply actions  

Happy for them

Kings are my 2nd favorite team

The Artist Formerly known as Speedingtime/Speedy

"You want Josh McRoberts? You can't HANDLE Josh McRoberts!" --Sportscenter anchor

by Jacob Grinyer on Mar 27, 2011 2:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

Any particular reason?

"You play anybody and if they shoot 70 per cent from three, they're going to be tough to beat." More wise words from Chris Bosh

by CanadaBucks on Mar 27, 2011 2:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

Not really

I just really like their fanbase, and because they’re another small market team.

The Artist Formerly known as Speedingtime/Speedy

"You want Josh McRoberts? You can't HANDLE Josh McRoberts!" --Sportscenter anchor

by Jacob Grinyer on Mar 27, 2011 2:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

Team with a lot of cap space that could succeed

After they move. Surprised Whiteside isn’t getting any burn with Dalembert on the way out.

"You play anybody and if they shoot 70 per cent from three, they're going to be tough to beat." More wise words from Chris Bosh

by CanadaBucks on Mar 27, 2011 2:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

"After they move"

Ugh. I hate seeing teams move, and in the NBA it happens way too much.

The Artist Formerly known as Speedingtime/Speedy

"You want Josh McRoberts? You can't HANDLE Josh McRoberts!" --Sportscenter anchor

by Jacob Grinyer on Mar 27, 2011 2:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well it's inevitable I think

Probably why the cap hit is so low.

"You play anybody and if they shoot 70 per cent from three, they're going to be tough to beat." More wise words from Chris Bosh

by CanadaBucks on Mar 27, 2011 2:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

I just don't know why they're moving to LA

How many teams does the LA/Bay Area region need?

Although, I do like the sound of the Anaheim Royals better than the Sacramento Kings.

Everyone just needs to Grillax a little bit...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xVod3uqtqgk

by jmeks23 on Mar 27, 2011 4:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

On the subject of the Kings

I live in Sac and I troll on Brewhoop to keep tabs on the Brocknes Monster. The Kings are most likely moving to SoCal because the Maloofs (majority owners of the Kings) are broke. They can make more money in Anaheim. A great article on why.

http://www.sacbee.com/2011/03/27/3506318/marcos-breton-maloofs-deal-looks.html#storylink=omni_popular

Screw the Maloofs.

Whiteside had to have knee surgery, so that is why he hasn’t played. And there have been rumors of Dalembert wanting to stay in Sac, if only the team wanted to stay as well.

Gentlemen... BEHOLD!!!

by Wrath of Kyle on Mar 27, 2011 4:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

seems pretty strange to have so many teams in one area

but what do we know we are only the fans

That," says LeBron, "is for everyone that watches me play. They witness something special. You're all a witness.

by ILIKEBJ'S on Mar 27, 2011 4:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

they dont have a NFL team in LA? they have a stadium though right?

I dont know anything about NFL, but that seems kinda weird, did they have a team in the past? Dont they like footbal in LA?

That," says LeBron, "is for everyone that watches me play. They witness something special. You're all a witness.

by ILIKEBJ'S on Mar 27, 2011 5:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yes

They had the Rams and the Raiders, and I guess it just wasn’t too popular there.

The Artist Formerly known as Speedingtime/Speedy

"You want Josh McRoberts? You can't HANDLE Josh McRoberts!" --Sportscenter anchor

by Jacob Grinyer on Mar 27, 2011 5:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Rams left in 1995 to St. Louis

The Raiders moved back to Oakland a year or so earlier.

by toasterrebound on Mar 27, 2011 5:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

They have Oakland and San Francisco though.

and San Diego…

All are close ENOUGH to be fine for LA fans. Most LA fans are casual fans anyways, they show up late and leave early. Just make ‘appearances’. Best example of that is the LA Dodgers.

Everyone just needs to Grillax a little bit...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xVod3uqtqgk

by jmeks23 on Mar 27, 2011 5:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Don't forget the Lakers

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"You want Josh McRoberts? You can't HANDLE Josh McRoberts!" --Sportscenter anchor

by Jacob Grinyer on Mar 27, 2011 5:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

They'll never lose the Dodgers or Lakers

Maybe the fewer games in football is part of it.

by toasterrebound on Mar 27, 2011 5:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

Or the fact that the cameras

Don’t shine on the fans

"You play anybody and if they shoot 70 per cent from three, they're going to be tough to beat." More wise words from Chris Bosh

by CanadaBucks on Mar 27, 2011 5:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

interesting though

you figure even if the fans are apathetic, some owner would bet they could make a decent amount of money there?

That," says LeBron, "is for everyone that watches me play. They witness something special. You're all a witness.

by ILIKEBJ'S on Mar 27, 2011 5:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

They need expansion

Or a transplant, and the league is pretty well set now.

by toasterrebound on Mar 27, 2011 5:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sacramento pounding on the mediocrity of the Eastern lower playoff teams.....its kinda funny

Bucks, Pacers & Philly all go down in flames

That," says LeBron, "is for everyone that watches me play. They witness something special. You're all a witness.

by ILIKEBJ'S on Mar 27, 2011 2:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

On the topic...

Is it too early to think about what it is going to have to take to keep the Bucks in Milwaukee?

Herb is getting pretty old now, and it’s obvious Milwaukee is a small market…but I do not want to lose the only NBA team I’ve ever known. The Bucks may have been miserable for quite some time, but having NBA basketball is still great to see. Honestly, I wouldn’t even follow the NBA if the Bucks moved.

I guess the only way it would work is to have Herb sell it to someone who was dedicated to Milwaukee and bringing the Bucks back. Then you would obviously need a new arena as well though.

Meh…whole situation sucks.

Everyone just needs to Grillax a little bit...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xVod3uqtqgk

by jmeks23 on Mar 27, 2011 4:11 PM CDT reply actions  

If Kohl went up and asked for new state of the arc arena right now in this economy and with the Bucks struggling

He’d probably get laughed at.

They’re going to be hard to keep. The NBA puts so much focus on the arenas it’s like they’re trying to distract people from what’s on the court…

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"You want Josh McRoberts? You can't HANDLE Josh McRoberts!" --Sportscenter anchor

by Jacob Grinyer on Mar 27, 2011 4:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

dont ask for it, just tell ;)

or else stick it on the end of a bill in a sub clause

That," says LeBron, "is for everyone that watches me play. They witness something special. You're all a witness.

by ILIKEBJ'S on Mar 27, 2011 4:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

Don't ask, don't tell

The Artist Formerly known as Speedingtime/Speedy

"You want Josh McRoberts? You can't HANDLE Josh McRoberts!" --Sportscenter anchor

by Jacob Grinyer on Mar 27, 2011 4:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

a good start is to have a team thats constantly winning

I assume its harder to shutdown a successful team on the court regardless of how much money it is making off the court, Seattle had been struggling since the Kemp/Payton era, Kings have been in the doldrums performance wise for nigh on what 5-6 seasons now

That," says LeBron, "is for everyone that watches me play. They witness something special. You're all a witness.

by ILIKEBJ'S on Mar 27, 2011 4:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

To echo that...

I think what the Bucks really need is a star, or even better a superstar. Unfortunately they can’t sign the big time FA, and nobody wants to be traded to the Bucks.

So they’re left with the draft. I guess the hardest pill to swallow is that 2005 draft when we took Bogut. I realize everyone else would’ve taken Bogut, it was a no brainer. I have no problem with the selection, it’s just looking around at the success of others in the draft that makes me sick.

Deron Williams, Chris Paul, Danny Granger, Monta Ellis, David Lee. There’s a ton of lesser players as well, but look at that list. That’s 2 superstars and 3 big time players.
In 2003, they were unfortunately not lucky enough in the lottery to get into that illustrious top 5 that included LeBron James, Carmelo Anthony, Chris Bosh, and Dwyane Wade.
Picking Yi in 2007 and Joe Alexander in 2008 are even worse…

I mean I could go on for days about drafting, but reflecting on my main point…

Stars and Superstars sell out arenas (IE Derrick Rose last night), and they also help your team win. The Bucks need one of those to stay afloat I think.

Everyone just needs to Grillax a little bit...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xVod3uqtqgk

by jmeks23 on Mar 27, 2011 5:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

woah woah

Ill give you Derron Williams & Chris Paul of course those guys are franchise players, but Danny Granger, Monta Ellis, David Lee whilst pretty good players, havent exactly led any of their NBA teams to great heights

That," says LeBron, "is for everyone that watches me play. They witness something special. You're all a witness.

by ILIKEBJ'S on Mar 27, 2011 5:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

Granger and Ellis are both 20pt a night scorers

and Lee has tremendous double-double potential. I didn’t say they were stars, just really good players. Obviously, they would not be taken with the 1st pick in that draft, which is the one we had.

Everyone just needs to Grillax a little bit...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xVod3uqtqgk

by jmeks23 on Mar 27, 2011 5:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

it is what it is we got Bogut

whilst he isnt a franchise player he is pretty good and a pretty good defensive big man is a very good building block, its kinda an indictment that we havent been able to surround him with better players

That," says LeBron, "is for everyone that watches me play. They witness something special. You're all a witness.

by ILIKEBJ'S on Mar 27, 2011 5:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

Id argue its what we have done since we drafted Bogut that has been a let down

That," says LeBron, "is for everyone that watches me play. They witness something special. You're all a witness.

by ILIKEBJ'S on Mar 27, 2011 5:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ugh.

Yi freaking Jianlian and Joe Alexander, and one year where we didn’t have a pick because we traded it for Jaamal Magloire. My. God.

The Artist Formerly known as Speedingtime/Speedy

"You want Josh McRoberts? You can't HANDLE Josh McRoberts!" --Sportscenter anchor

by Jacob Grinyer on Mar 27, 2011 5:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

exactly

if we hadnt blown those decent picks we would have had a lot more talent around Bogut, its really a waste two top 10 draft picks wasted

That," says LeBron, "is for everyone that watches me play. They witness something special. You're all a witness.

by ILIKEBJ'S on Mar 27, 2011 5:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

Quit taking bigs in the draft

They are always projects and we need a shooter. If we can get Meeks in the second round, I think we’ll do fine.

by toasterrebound on Mar 27, 2011 5:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

Bogut has been with the Bucks what 7 years now right

name one decent power forward he has ever played with on the Bucks

That," says LeBron, "is for everyone that watches me play. They witness something special. You're all a witness.

by ILIKEBJ'S on Mar 27, 2011 5:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

He was the power forward as a rookie

With Magloire at center. Ruben Patterson was alright.

by toasterrebound on Mar 27, 2011 5:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

yeah exactly though since his rookie season who has been supporting him

Patterson was ok but undersized, more of PF in a small forward body, Charlie V, Yi, all not true PF’s in the real sense, guy has been going it alone for along time on the front line

That," says LeBron, "is for everyone that watches me play. They witness something special. You're all a witness.

by ILIKEBJ'S on Mar 27, 2011 5:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

He's not exactly a powerhouse himself...

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"You want Josh McRoberts? You can't HANDLE Josh McRoberts!" --Sportscenter anchor

by Jacob Grinyer on Mar 27, 2011 5:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

hence we needed to draft better, unfortunately we havent

at least that way we can force guys here for a few seasons ;)

That," says LeBron, "is for everyone that watches me play. They witness something special. You're all a witness.

by ILIKEBJ'S on Mar 27, 2011 5:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

See previous post

It has to be what we have or a surprise pick. Sanders was a lottery pick.

by toasterrebound on Mar 27, 2011 5:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Im high on Sanders, but it looks like he may need another season of work

That," says LeBron, "is for everyone that watches me play. They witness something special. You're all a witness.

by ILIKEBJ'S on Mar 27, 2011 5:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

Just like Jennings, he needs to bulk up

Neither of them have NBA bodies right now, and that’s why BJ gets beat up on screens and can’t finish at the rim, and why Sanders can’t muscle up on bigger PF’s.

Everyone just needs to Grillax a little bit...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xVod3uqtqgk

by jmeks23 on Mar 27, 2011 5:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

Just outside the lottery, actually.

The Artist Formerly known as Speedingtime/Speedy

"You want Josh McRoberts? You can't HANDLE Josh McRoberts!" --Sportscenter anchor

by Jacob Grinyer on Mar 27, 2011 6:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

yeah thats the most disappointing outcome of this season

was looking forward to pairing Drew Gooden & Bogut, whilst not an elite combo, they would have been a step up on what most teams put out at PF & C

thats why especially annoyed at Gooden, I expected him to be his consistently avg self, in a good way

That," says LeBron, "is for everyone that watches me play. They witness something special. You're all a witness.

by ILIKEBJ'S on Mar 27, 2011 5:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

im not holding my breath

he has alot to prove to the Bucks fans

That," says LeBron, "is for everyone that watches me play. They witness something special. You're all a witness.

by ILIKEBJ'S on Mar 27, 2011 5:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, you can't get better with a GM like Larry Harris.

That may have been the biggest issue, although Hammond did pick Alexander, correct?

Everyone just needs to Grillax a little bit...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xVod3uqtqgk

by jmeks23 on Mar 27, 2011 5:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think the conclusion can be drawn we have done a really crap job of building a team over the last 6 years

I guess it seemed Hammond had laid a decent foundation last year, but it went pear shaped and we are right back where we started

That," says LeBron, "is for everyone that watches me play. They witness something special. You're all a witness.

by ILIKEBJ'S on Mar 27, 2011 5:25 PM CDT reply actions  

I wish Maggette has putting up these numbers so we could try and palm him off to some sucker

That," says LeBron, "is for everyone that watches me play. They witness something special. You're all a witness.

by ILIKEBJ'S on Mar 27, 2011 5:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

haha i like that thought process

always look on the bright side

That," says LeBron, "is for everyone that watches me play. They witness something special. You're all a witness.

by ILIKEBJ'S on Mar 27, 2011 5:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

I still want him to play

He has played well for the most part.

by toasterrebound on Mar 27, 2011 5:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

hands up I dont like Maggette but......

if we were playing well like last year he would have been a good 6th man I imagine, but on struggling teams he hasnt helped improve them

That," says LeBron, "is for everyone that watches me play. They witness something special. You're all a witness.

by ILIKEBJ'S on Mar 27, 2011 5:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

He was starting and then had injuries

And has been silent since. He needs 20 + minutes.

by toasterrebound on Mar 27, 2011 5:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

+1 and a lot of zeroes

check the man’s scoring per 36 minutes, he’s doing what he’s supposed to.

"You play anybody and if they shoot 70 per cent from three, they're going to be tough to beat." More wise words from Chris Bosh

by CanadaBucks on Mar 27, 2011 5:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

not make the playoffs? ;)

teams Corey Maggette plays on are always pretty good at that

That," says LeBron, "is for everyone that watches me play. They witness something special. You're all a witness.

by ILIKEBJ'S on Mar 27, 2011 5:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nice

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"You want Josh McRoberts? You can't HANDLE Josh McRoberts!" --Sportscenter anchor

by Jacob Grinyer on Mar 27, 2011 6:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Id actually be interested in knowing how many no1 draft picks in the past 10-15 seasons have won NBA titles

thatd be an interesting one to look at Duncan being the obvious one after that I wouldnt have a clue

That," says LeBron, "is for everyone that watches me play. They witness something special. You're all a witness.

by ILIKEBJ'S on Mar 27, 2011 5:34 PM CDT reply actions  

I think none, other than Duncan.

Though Rose, Howard, and LeBron James among others could easily get one soon.

That is telling, considering that shows how much that talent around said #1 pick matters.

However, winning NBA titles isn’t the entire measure of what a superstar/star can bring you. Think about the amount of revenue Cleveland gained during the time with LeBron as opposed to the current time after, and the time before him.

Everyone just needs to Grillax a little bit...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xVod3uqtqgk

by jmeks23 on Mar 27, 2011 5:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

yeah true

but does the average fan care how much revenue his/her team brings in? they measure it in wins and championships I guess

That," says LeBron, "is for everyone that watches me play. They witness something special. You're all a witness.

by ILIKEBJ'S on Mar 27, 2011 5:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

probably not, but revenue would help build a new arena and keep the Bucks in town

Everyone just needs to Grillax a little bit...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xVod3uqtqgk

by jmeks23 on Mar 27, 2011 5:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

Interesting topic that

There was a poll on another blog(NFL to be exact) and it basically said would you rather your team stunk for 30 years and came out of nowhere to win it all(Lets say for exapmle the Clippers win it all next year)or have a team that is competitive every year but never wins it all(the jazz, one losing season since 83-84)

The poll was pretty split but i would have the latter any day.

"You play anybody and if they shoot 70 per cent from three, they're going to be tough to beat." More wise words from Chris Bosh

by CanadaBucks on Mar 27, 2011 6:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

ah yeah then maybe the admiral David Robinson?

cant remember what number Hakeem went in the draft, anyway a pattern emerges, u want a franchise big man, unfortunately Bogut isnt that, but he isnt the Kandi man or Kwame either

That," says LeBron, "is for everyone that watches me play. They witness something special. You're all a witness.

by ILIKEBJ'S on Mar 27, 2011 5:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

Joe Smith might get one this year

I never use a big word when a diminutive word would suffice.

by TheJay on Mar 27, 2011 9:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

be a long time in the wait, old Joe has been going around the traps a long time now

That," says LeBron, "is for everyone that watches me play. They witness something special. You're all a witness.

by ILIKEBJ'S on Mar 28, 2011 1:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

The best way for this team to go

And I know this will be unpopular might be to trade Bogut. Be interested to see if Minny mihgt part with something like Darko, Wes johnson and a couple of 1s for Bogut. I know I’ll take a beating for this but I don’t think bogut is worth what he’s paid, especially if the caps is 56-57m next year.

"You play anybody and if they shoot 70 per cent from three, they're going to be tough to beat." More wise words from Chris Bosh

by CanadaBucks on Mar 27, 2011 5:35 PM CDT reply actions  

look when your perpetually stuck in mediocrity like the Bucks I dont think anyone is untouchable

That," says LeBron, "is for everyone that watches me play. They witness something special. You're all a witness.

by ILIKEBJ'S on Mar 27, 2011 5:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

A few problems with that though,

Who replaces him? Darko is terrible, absolutely no way I use him as my C afterwards.

The 1st rounders from Minnesota (who always seems to have a plethera of them) would be nice, and probably the best part of the deal. Wes Johnson could become special, but I don’t see it. I didn’t even care for him at Syracuse really.

Another question is who becomes the leader? I’m pretty sure despite injuries, Bogut is the unquestioned leader of the team.

If we were going to trade him, I’d rather trade him somewhere else, for something more.

Everyone just needs to Grillax a little bit...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xVod3uqtqgk

by jmeks23 on Mar 27, 2011 5:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think Bogues will back on the offensive upcurve again next year with another off season

no way is he perfect, but he is pretty good, tough to find a trade where we get value back for him I imagine

That," says LeBron, "is for everyone that watches me play. They witness something special. You're all a witness.

by ILIKEBJ'S on Mar 27, 2011 5:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

if we replaced Bogut with Darko I might cry

That," says LeBron, "is for everyone that watches me play. They witness something special. You're all a witness.

by ILIKEBJ'S on Mar 27, 2011 5:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

Darko for a backup would work

We could send Brockman and Dooling for him and Luke. Maybe throw in some cash.

by toasterrebound on Mar 27, 2011 5:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

It was an example

Trying to think of teams that might want Bogut and can afford him. Knicks would die to have him but they got nothing to offer

FYI per 36 minutes this year
Bogut 13p, 11.5r, 2.1a, .7s, 2.7b
Milicic 13p, 7.7r, 2a, 1s, 3b

Terrible? His boards are way under Bogut but Love might have a thing or two to do with that.

Im not saying that’s the best we could get but I might think about pulling the trigger on it.

"You play anybody and if they shoot 70 per cent from three, they're going to be tough to beat." More wise words from Chris Bosh

by CanadaBucks on Mar 27, 2011 6:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

Jazz.

The Artist Formerly known as Speedingtime/Speedy

"You want Josh McRoberts? You can't HANDLE Josh McRoberts!" --Sportscenter anchor

by Jacob Grinyer on Mar 27, 2011 6:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

I mean the Jazz might want Bogut

Or OKC

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"You want Josh McRoberts? You can't HANDLE Josh McRoberts!" --Sportscenter anchor

by Jacob Grinyer on Mar 27, 2011 6:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ok bogut for

Westbrook and Durant done.

"You play anybody and if they shoot 70 per cent from three, they're going to be tough to beat." More wise words from Chris Bosh

by CanadaBucks on Mar 27, 2011 6:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ok but for who

Millsap and Favors? The have some exceptions but I dont want exceptions

"You play anybody and if they shoot 70 per cent from three, they're going to be tough to beat." More wise words from Chris Bosh

by CanadaBucks on Mar 27, 2011 6:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

If Favors is as good as people predict him to be, I'd probably do it.

You still don’t have a center then though, as Favors is a PF.

Maybe Gooden or Ilyasova, and then Sanders backing up Favors? Millsap fitting in there somewhere as well obviously.

Everyone just needs to Grillax a little bit...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xVod3uqtqgk

by jmeks23 on Mar 27, 2011 6:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Not sure utah would but ya

"You play anybody and if they shoot 70 per cent from three, they're going to be tough to beat." More wise words from Chris Bosh

by CanadaBucks on Mar 27, 2011 6:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

We would need someone else

Like Delfino/Ilyasova to make that work

"You play anybody and if they shoot 70 per cent from three, they're going to be tough to beat." More wise words from Chris Bosh

by CanadaBucks on Mar 27, 2011 6:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

maybe try to coax out one of their 1st rounders too

"You play anybody and if they shoot 70 per cent from three, they're going to be tough to beat." More wise words from Chris Bosh

by CanadaBucks on Mar 27, 2011 6:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think that may be more of a reflection of Bogut's bad season

as opposed to Darko’s good season.

Everyone just needs to Grillax a little bit...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xVod3uqtqgk

by jmeks23 on Mar 27, 2011 6:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed....... just sayin

"You play anybody and if they shoot 70 per cent from three, they're going to be tough to beat." More wise words from Chris Bosh

by CanadaBucks on Mar 27, 2011 6:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think they're in for a

Playoff let-down

"You play anybody and if they shoot 70 per cent from three, they're going to be tough to beat." More wise words from Chris Bosh

by CanadaBucks on Mar 27, 2011 5:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

looking tough though might take a few teams down before they go

That," says LeBron, "is for everyone that watches me play. They witness something special. You're all a witness.

by ILIKEBJ'S on Mar 27, 2011 5:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well if we end up in the lottery

Maybe it’ll be our lucky year and we’ll get into the top 6.

Dunno if there’s any superstar caliber players out there, but there’s definitely a lot of good ones. Pair it with BJ and Bogut, could be a good thing. I’m being ultra-optimistic right now however. We’ll probably end up at 11-13.

Everyone just needs to Grillax a little bit...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xVod3uqtqgk

by jmeks23 on Mar 27, 2011 5:52 PM CDT reply actions  

honestly I think thats our best bet, take that step back

we tried to accelerate the progress and push for a 2nd round playoff push by acquiring Maggette & Gooden, it didnt pan out for whatever reasons, Id like to build on what we have Bogut, BJ, Sanders, Prince, Delfino……..aim to nail another draft pick or two

That," says LeBron, "is for everyone that watches me play. They witness something special. You're all a witness.

by ILIKEBJ'S on Mar 27, 2011 5:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

anyway been a lively discussion, cheers all

That," says LeBron, "is for everyone that watches me play. They witness something special. You're all a witness.

by ILIKEBJ'S on Mar 27, 2011 5:55 PM CDT reply actions  

"anyway been a lively discussion, cheers all"

Geez. Is the wake over already? I haven’t yet had enough punch.

Bucks = still quivering, but over. State’s colleges = over. Packers = long gone, a dot disappeared (temporarily) high against the returning sun.

All that shall remain for months and months = Brewers, an interesting option, but for me not requiring forums and such involvement; not requiring alignment with a schedule (they’re always on), just relax in front of the TV and let the nation’s pastime pass on by… Equally good for moments of excitement and for senior naps.

by unklchuk on Mar 28, 2011 9:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

im always up for another round

That," says LeBron, "is for everyone that watches me play. They witness something special. You're all a witness.

by ILIKEBJ'S on Mar 28, 2011 9:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

Bucks v Bobcat's.........this could get ugly

That," says LeBron, "is for everyone that watches me play. They witness something special. You're all a witness.

by ILIKEBJ'S on Mar 28, 2011 11:18 AM CDT reply actions  

Does this qualify as

An absolutely, positively, slam-dunk must win? I’d say so, gets worse when you’re 2 games behind 2 teams as it’s harder to get help.

"You play anybody and if they shoot 70 per cent from three, they're going to be tough to beat." More wise words from Chris Bosh

by CanadaBucks on Mar 28, 2011 12:41 PM CDT reply actions  

never underestimate the eastern conference

we could probably drop a few more games and still be thereabouts when drinks are called for

That," says LeBron, "is for everyone that watches me play. They witness something special. You're all a witness.

by ILIKEBJ'S on Mar 28, 2011 12:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

seriously though looking at the next few games look winnable

that doesnt mean we win any of them considering this season, but they are there to be won if we step up

That," says LeBron, "is for everyone that watches me play. They witness something special. You're all a witness.

by ILIKEBJ'S on Mar 28, 2011 12:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yahoo Breaking Out the Salt

One of the Bulls’ unsung heroes this season is Kurt Thomas, who played last season with the Bucks. Thomas played a key role for the Bucks down the stretch last year, starting for the injured Andrew Bogut. But Thomas became an unrestricted free agent over the summer and, according to Thomas, the Bucks inexplicably made little effort to re-sign him. Suffice to say, the Bulls are happy to have the veteran big man.

“We wouldn’t be where we are without him,” Bulls superstar guard Derrick Rose said of Thomas. “He’s helped us in so many ways. He’s been great.”

Seriously? KT wanted to be here but we made no effort? What the hell was John Hammond thinking?

by MadTown Hoops on Mar 28, 2011 1:00 PM CDT reply actions  

I seriously just want to ignore this completely because it will just piss me off

kinda ridiculous when you think about it that we didnt re sign two guys that really helped make last season possible, in KT who I really wanted to sign during the summer, its even more ridiculous that we didnt even get a proper back up to Bogut, KT is the man even at his age, his defense on the block is very good, last season during the playoffs, Atlanta were constantly trying to get him outta of the block by getting Horford to shoot that pick and pop jumper

the other guy was Ridnour, which I admit at the time I was ambivalent about, but we have missed his steady hand off the bench, and his efficient shooting last year has been sorely missed, would have been handy when Jennings went down

That," says LeBron, "is for everyone that watches me play. They witness something special. You're all a witness.

by ILIKEBJ'S on Mar 28, 2011 1:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

its okay anyway we got Drew Gooden woo hoo

That," says LeBron, "is for everyone that watches me play. They witness something special. You're all a witness.

by ILIKEBJ'S on Mar 28, 2011 1:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

KT didn't want to be here

I thought that was pretty clear. His words were something to the effect of, I want to be on a team that can seriously content and the Bulls in his opinion had a clear competitive advantage.

by FearTheDeer on Mar 28, 2011 1:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

looks like he was right ;)

That," says LeBron, "is for everyone that watches me play. They witness something special. You're all a witness.

by ILIKEBJ'S on Mar 28, 2011 1:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

If KT was such a big factor in our team last year

Then acting like we were reading to take a leap forward by signing Gooden and Salmons and trading for Maggette probably wasn’t the wisest choice….

Although I miss him a lot too. He added leadership that this team lacks sorely.

The Artist Formerly known as Speedingtime/Speedy

"You want Josh McRoberts? You can't HANDLE Josh McRoberts!" --Sportscenter anchor

by Jacob Grinyer on Mar 28, 2011 2:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

"Seriously? KT wanted to be here but we made no effort? What the hell was John Hammond thinking?"

Gooden?
 
 
“Made no effort” may be player-speak for didn’t offer me a nice fat raise. I valued Thomas during his time here, but didn’t necessarily want to pretend he wasn’t old. He gets great press and comments wherever he goes. Maybe he deserves every word. Maybe he’s a shrewd businessman.

At the time, I had the impression he wanted to play for a better team. Thought his nice words for Milwaukee were “situational politics.”

by unklchuk on Mar 28, 2011 1:16 PM CDT reply actions  

regardless of KT I dont see the point in trying to defend Drew Gooden's season

guy has sucked whether that was because of his foot I dont really care

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by ILIKEBJ'S on Mar 28, 2011 1:45 PM CDT reply actions  

I'll defend him then

In the games he has played and I don’t know how healthy he has been, his per/36 would be 15 and 10 and I would dare say that’’s about what we were hoping for. I was just hoping for it in more than 20-30 games. I still argue Salmons is the only one of the “big 3”who hasn’t lived up to statistical expectations, note the statistical though.

I still put 50% of the season down to injuries, there’s some other things too but I think the missed games have cost us at least an easey ride to the playoffs.

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by CanadaBucks on Mar 28, 2011 4:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

We've sucked when healthy , too.

I concur about Gooden. but KT wouldn’t have made this team make their countless missed jump shots. A team on a 60 win pace can praise their entire roster. But I’d take KT over Brockman.

by toasterrebound on Mar 28, 2011 4:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

have we been healthy

Like 100%? I don’t think so

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by CanadaBucks on Mar 28, 2011 5:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

I only look at what he produced actually

only 30 odd games, shot below 45% horrible for a PF, less than 7 rebounds a game I dont know what there is to be impressed about

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by ILIKEBJ'S on Mar 28, 2011 4:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

if he turns it around next season Ill gladly eat my words, but until then I admit nothing

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