Bucks/Thunder: The End of a Season
by Dan Sinclair on Apr 13, 2011 3:42 PM CDT
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On the Thunder: Welcome to Loud City / Daily Thunder
2010/2011 NBA Season
vs.
34-47 (12-28 road) 55-26 (30-10 home)
April 13, 2010
Oklahoma City Arena
7:00 PM CT
Radio: 620 WTMJ TV: FSN Wisconsin
Probable starters:
Brandon Jennings
PG
Russell Westbrook
John Salmons
SG
Thabo Sefolosha
Carlos Delfino
SF
Kevin Durant
Luc Mbah a Moute
PF
Serge Ibaka
Drew Gooden
C
Kendrick Perkins
(30th) 101.5 - OFFENSE - 111.3 (4th)
(4th) 102.5 - DEFENSE - 107.2 (16th)
(26th) 89.7 - PACE - 92.7 (13th)
It's been a long, long year.
A disappointing one, no doubt. Sometimes head-scratching, sometimes infuriating. There has been a lot to complain about this season in Milwaukee, and complain we have. It's our right, maybe even our duty as fans to be vocal about the product we so voraciously consume for five-plus months out of the year. After tonight, we'll spend the next six months reflecting on the few things that went right and the many more that went wrong. We'll look ahead to the off-season landmarks: the draft; the magical transformation of Michael Redd from an $18 million man into a budget surplus; the prospect of Andrew Bogut playing basketball without shrapnel in his elbow.
It's been a long, long year. But after it all, I can't help feeling that we're all going to miss it, if only just a little.
Bucksketball - Bigger Problems than Brandon: Jeremy Schmidt is as intent as the rest of us in diagnosing what ails the Milwaukee Bucks, but in his column today he takes a step back and tries to get a handle on the Brandon Jennings hatewagon that has formed this year. I don't mean to accuse those who are upset with Jennings of being unfair--there are plenty of reasons to feel that way. But I do urge you to read Jeremy's article and consider whether Jennings's position as a vocal leader of the team does earn him some undeserved flak.
Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel - Season "feels like a failure": More of the same when it comes to comments from the players: nobody's happy, everyone's got excuses. Actually, "excuses" probably isn't the best word. There were a boatload of "excuses" for Milwaukee's failure to return to the playoffs, and all of them mattered. Let's call them "reasons" instead.
Basketball-Reference - The Redd-Randolph All-Stars: A cool read looking at the effect of big changes in a players' MPG. Michael Redd is put forth as an example of such a jump. Redd's role as a bench player was generally accepted as doctrine, but his per-minute stats looked just as good as many starters. There have been some cool studies conducted to look at the correlation between performance and minutes, and most have tended to show that rate statistics stay fairly consistent when player roles change (unless the player also changes teams, that is).
Making History the bad way: This Milwaukee Bucks team, despite what you may think, isn't going to set any league records for offensive futility. But it is going to finish with the fifth-lowest recorded offensive rating in franchise history. Plus, in the four years with lower ORtgs, three were still above the league-average--relics of the late 70's NBA. Milwaukee actually made the Finals in 1974 with a 101.2 ORtg (tops in the league that year). There's no getting around it: this is one of the worst offensive squads Milwaukee has ever put together.
Spoiling for spoiling's sake?: Oklahoma City currently sits in fourth place in the Western Conference, but they can still grab the three seed if they defeat Milwaukee tonight and Dallas loses to New Orleans. Milwaukee has no real beef with Oklahoma City, and losing this game is certainly the best plan in terms of bettering their chances in the lottery, but if they do take down the Thunder, at least they're screwing somebody over. And really, isn't that what these games are all about?
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Always sad when a season ends ...
This off-season should be interesting. I guess all we do now is sit, wait, and talk our faces off about the prospects for 2011-2012 (assuming there IS a season, what with an eventual lockout).
Sucks not having summer league and possibly no free agency for some time
We’ll have to get creative to keep busy :)
by Frank Madden on Apr 13, 2011 5:38 PM CDT up reply actions
Let's live blog a 1970s season replay on WhatIfSports
I never use a big word when a diminutive word would suffice.
And have a twitter account like the Brewers' 1982 one.
The Artist Formerly known as Speedingtime/Speedy
"You want Josh McRoberts? You can't HANDLE Josh McRoberts!" --Sportscenter anchor
by Jacob Grinyer on Apr 13, 2011 6:25 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm obviously not with Jeremy on his assessment.
He seems to say it is possible that Jennings can bring his shooting percentage over 40% next year. Just because he set the bar so low doesn’t mean he suceeds if he gets over it at some point. I want him to actually be an asset on offense, not just a guy who doesn’t hurt the team. For example, Jeremy says that Jennings has improved his shooting at the rim by multiple percentage points, which sounds great as a standalone point, but when put back into context of his staggering inefficiency, it doesn’t look as good. Hickory High covered the issue in more detail:
“Among players with at least 100 attempts, [Jennings] ranks dead last in FG% at the rim, shooting 50.3%. We can feel quite certain that his struggles are not a fluke as he shot 42.7% at the rim last season. Although he’s increased his FG% at the rim by 7.6 percentage points he still shoots 13.8 percentage points below the league average of 64.1%.”
And I know this is being technical, but Jennings is actually a third year professional player. His professional experience in Europe still counts, doesn’t it? All he did was play basketball that entire year (and got paid for it), and in Europe they have far more practice time between games than in the NBA, so it would have been prime time to work on that right hand and consistent shooting mechanics.
As far a character goes, maybe he is a more capable leader than he appears when I watch him and listen to what he says in public. With respect to character evaluation, in my opinion the issue of how a player responds to losing/failure is a far more telling than how he responds to winning/success. Anyone can handle things when they are going well, but it has troubled me that Brandon has piled the blame on his teammates and not taken the bulk of blame for a terrible offense he operates and dominates. If he doesn’t truly understand how bad he has been on offense this season, what hope is there that he understands how to improve his performance?
I have no problem that people want to believe in Jennings…it would benefit the Bucks and all us fans greatly if he suddenly became a great player…but other than saying “he is still young, and he had some singular big scoring games” where are the real signals that a huge leap in skill and decision making is coming next season? I love the Bucks, but I can’t join in straining to justify players on their roster just because they wear the uniform of the team I support.
As I mentioned in a prior post, Jennings value on the trade market is composed of three factors: youth, cost-controlled contract, potential. All of these factors are very time sensitive, and if Jennings comes back the same player they are severely undercut. All the evidence I have seen from his performances tells me he isn’t suddenly going to become an efficient offensive player…he will likely remain a streaky, shoot-first PG suited for a 3rd option/6th man role on a good team. The most compelling argument I have seen came from the Hickory High article, in which the author said the following:
“As a rookie last season Jennings shot just 37.1% from the field. That’s the 4th lowest FG% in the history of the NBA, by a rookie who started at least half their team’s games. The good news for Jennings is that several players on that list, such as Chris Duhon, Jason Williams, Kirk Hinrich, Raymond Felton and Nick Van Exel, shot under 40% as rookies but have gone on to careers as solid NBA contributors. Some like Jason Kidd, Russell Westbrook and Chauncey Billups have even gone on to be stars. It should also give Bucks’ fans hope that making a large improvement in FG%, going from a rookie season to a sophmore season, doesn’t seem to be a prerequisite for future success either.”
This maybe he won’t suck logic isn’t exactly a ringing endorsement considering Jennings lacks the size and other skills of Kidd, Westbrook, or Billups.
Adam Dunn is Chicago Tough: "I’m a quick healer, like Wolverine. I asked the doctor yesterday how long these things take and he gave me a general answer for the public. I’m subtracting 15 days off it."
by Juan Uribe's Plate Discipline on Apr 13, 2011 4:26 PM CDT reply actions
Pile the blame on his teammates?
Did I miss something?
I still say it would beneift us more to wait a year, if he doesn’t improve you haven’t lost that much, trades still have to be equal salary wise and if he does improve, you either have your PG for years to come(btw I don’t care if he’s a star or not I just want a better than average pg), or a trading chip that becomes more favourable and teams might be willing to take on some of your less desireable contracts.
"You play anybody and if they shoot 70 per cent from three, they're going to be tough to beat." More wise words from Chris Bosh
Improvement is improvement
…to a certain extent. I understand your point about improving being meaningless if it still leaves you in a bad spot, but I think that improvement in important areas from year one to year two is reasonable evidence that improvement will continue from year two to year three (or four, counting Europe, but I’d argue that college ball in a competitive conference can be more valuable than professional play in Europe).
By my estimation, the biggest issue that anybody can take with Jennings is that he shoots too damn much. I’d totally agree, but I’d argue that the offense this year was so completely dysfunctional that everyone suffered. John Salmons had his lowest offensive rating in five years; Corey Maggette had his lowest in eleven years. Andrew Bogut shot under 50%. Brandon Jennings might take some blame for that too, but I’m willing to separate the PG’s role in playmaking from the shooter’s ability to make a shot, and Synergy Sports tells me that Milwaukee was fairly atrocious in spot-up shooting (39%), and you figure many of those passes are coming from Jennings. Again, plenty of those shots were Brandon’s misses too, but the eye test tells me the kid knows how to make good passes and hit open shooters, even if he doesn’t do it as much as he should.
The same problem we’ve been highlighting here on BrewHoop all season has been the frustration of not really knowing how to fix things. If we just look at a good index for offensive success, such as the Four Factors on Hoopdata, the Bucks weren’t terrible at anything other than shooting; unfortunately, shooting is probably the toughest thing to fix. I can’t blame Brandon for being frustrated, or anybody on the roster. It had to be maddening seeing rim-out after airball after rim-out. Jennings is a young guy with a huge load of responsibility and a coach that likely expects him to handle everything that’s thrown at him. Even if the infrequent complaints or call-outs were unwise, it’d be tough to say there were unwarranted.
If you’ll forgive a terrible metaphor, I’m still letting slack out on Jennings’ leash. There was so much wrong with the offense in Milwaukee this year that I can’t in all good conscience criticize Jennings too harshly. It just doesn’t seem fair to place all the blame on him, even if he does seem totally inefficient in a vacuum, which is where I suppose we should be trying to evaluate players. I’m worried but hopeful. Still, I’m definitely nowhere near the point of calling for Jennings’ departure.
Sorry if I’ve misrepresented your argument here! I’m typically very careful to stay impartial and dispassionate, especially in the interest of encouraging a healthy discussion on topics of interest like this. At some point, though, you’ve just gotta show your hand, you know?
www.Brewhoop.com, http://where55happens.wordpress.com
by Dan Sinclair on Apr 13, 2011 5:25 PM CDT up reply actions
I appreciate the thoughtful response.
I know it seems like I am heaping all of the problems the Bucks have on Jennings, but that is not quite what I mean. When it comes to the biggest deficiency on the Bucks (offensive efficiency), which I believe merits the most scrutinizing analysis and criticism among all things Bucks this season, I can’t help but end up with heavy criticism for Jennings. He simply has the highest usage rate and the lowest shooting efficiency among all of the regulars on the roster. His performance is the primary reason the Bucks are the least efficient offense in the NBA…I’m not sure it could be fairly stated any other way. If anyone wants to speculate that other players on the Bucks would become just as inefficient if more of the shots Jennings took were spread around the roster…but to me that would be nothing more than speculation, because the reason advanced rate stats are preferred to per game stats is because most NBA stats people don’t believe much (if at all) in the concept of diminishing returns when players take additional shots.
In short, I guess this is my stance: I know what Jennings deserves criticism for and I am more than willing to take him to task for it. If I knew what he deserved praise for (last year I praised him for his 3pt% but regression this year has put him below average at his position), I would be more than happy to heap praise on him…but I refuse to praise him for jumping over the low and inefficient bars he set in his first season if he is still inefficient, and I refuse to praise him for simply being young and having raw physical skills that haven’t translated to value on a basketball court.
Adam Dunn is Chicago Tough: "I’m a quick healer, like Wolverine. I asked the doctor yesterday how long these things take and he gave me a general answer for the public. I’m subtracting 15 days off it."
by Juan Uribe's Plate Discipline on Apr 13, 2011 5:43 PM CDT up reply actions
The Jennings effect
I would describe myself as skeptical but hopeful of Jennings’ future, but two numbers that I’ll throw out:
8-11 record w/o Brandon, 26-36 with him
We scored more and surrendered less/possession with him on the bench.
+/- is hardly an unassailable stat—Durant was terrible by that measure his first two years—but it’s worth noting if we want to talk about a player’s impact on his team IMO.
by Frank Madden on Apr 13, 2011 5:49 PM CDT up reply actions
Yea, Adjusted Statistical +/- doesn't like Jennings either.
Adam Dunn is Chicago Tough: "I’m a quick healer, like Wolverine. I asked the doctor yesterday how long these things take and he gave me a general answer for the public. I’m subtracting 15 days off it."
by Juan Uribe's Plate Discipline on Apr 13, 2011 5:52 PM CDT up reply actions
Just out of interest
Record w/o Bogut?
"You play anybody and if they shoot 70 per cent from three, they're going to be tough to beat." More wise words from Chris Bosh
Not too good. I did this at one point, and I can dig it up for this year, but not too good.
Adam Dunn is Chicago Tough: "I’m a quick healer, like Wolverine. I asked the doctor yesterday how long these things take and he gave me a general answer for the public. I’m subtracting 15 days off it."
by Juan Uribe's Plate Discipline on Apr 13, 2011 5:53 PM CDT up reply actions
Ok just curious
because we’re 2 out of the last 3
"You play anybody and if they shoot 70 per cent from three, they're going to be tough to beat." More wise words from Chris Bosh
Just wondering
Should
"You play anybody and if they shoot 70 per cent from three, they're going to be tough to beat." More wise words from Chris Bosh
Sorry fail post
"You play anybody and if they shoot 70 per cent from three, they're going to be tough to beat." More wise words from Chris Bosh
The "with" and "without" stats ..
Are extremely mis-leading …Never take serious stock in such numbers. They mix individual with team stats and rarely reveal anything — especially in the course of 40-50 games.
by tommyr on Apr 13, 2011 9:58 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I haven't mentioned adjusted +/- but one time in the several hundred posts on Jennings.
If you are saying there needs to be a 2-3 year sample for adjusted +/-, I agree. No need to do a post on it.
Adam Dunn is Chicago Tough: "I’m a quick healer, like Wolverine. I asked the doctor yesterday how long these things take and he gave me a general answer for the public. I’m subtracting 15 days off it."
by Juan Uribe's Plate Discipline on Apr 13, 2011 9:59 PM CDT up reply actions
Two questions for you
What’s your take on keeping Luc, he hasn’t improved statistically since his first year.
Would you be happy if we kept Jennings and he ended up being Nick Van Exel v2.0
"You play anybody and if they shoot 70 per cent from three, they're going to be tough to beat." More wise words from Chris Bosh
Are these questions for me?
Adam Dunn is Chicago Tough: "I’m a quick healer, like Wolverine. I asked the doctor yesterday how long these things take and he gave me a general answer for the public. I’m subtracting 15 days off it."
by Juan Uribe's Plate Discipline on Apr 13, 2011 6:20 PM CDT up reply actions
Yes please
"You play anybody and if they shoot 70 per cent from three, they're going to be tough to beat." More wise words from Chris Bosh
Ok, here we go:
(1) LRMAM has some value on defense (not much if any on offense because he can’t hit jumpers to space the defense), but defensive value is very hard to pinpoint, especially for perimeter defenders. He is more valuable to a team that is already stacked on offense than he is on the Bucks, so a sign and trade seems like a really good option to me. If he comes at a reasonable price (less than 4 mill per year) then I suppose they could keep him and I would be ok with it. I don’t expect him to improve much on offense at this point, but he has defensive value of some sort.
(2) Nick Van Exel wasn’t especially efficient either, and the key to keep in mind is that some GM got suckered into paying Van Exel a 7yr/77mil deal based on his per game numbers…so if you factor in the bit about having to pay to keep him, I don’t want the Bucks to have to build around him based on a mistake in resigning him as a cornerstone.
Adam Dunn is Chicago Tough: "I’m a quick healer, like Wolverine. I asked the doctor yesterday how long these things take and he gave me a general answer for the public. I’m subtracting 15 days off it."
by Juan Uribe's Plate Discipline on Apr 13, 2011 6:26 PM CDT up reply actions
Ok fair enough
I agree with both points btw, I just disagree that the time to trade Jennings is now. Wait one more year…worst case?
"You play anybody and if they shoot 70 per cent from three, they're going to be tough to beat." More wise words from Chris Bosh
Worst case is his trade value is gone.
Look at what the Rockets got for Aaron Brooks and expect a similar return. Not good.
Adam Dunn is Chicago Tough: "I’m a quick healer, like Wolverine. I asked the doctor yesterday how long these things take and he gave me a general answer for the public. I’m subtracting 15 days off it."
by Juan Uribe's Plate Discipline on Apr 13, 2011 6:44 PM CDT up reply actions
But would you get much now?
if it’s a mid 1st round pick no thanks…..I’d want to get a player back that i felt could start.
"You play anybody and if they shoot 70 per cent from three, they're going to be tough to beat." More wise words from Chris Bosh
It only takes one GM....it only takes one.
And maybe picks are undervalued this year, but I think someone would do better than a mid round pick.
Adam Dunn is Chicago Tough: "I’m a quick healer, like Wolverine. I asked the doctor yesterday how long these things take and he gave me a general answer for the public. I’m subtracting 15 days off it."
by Juan Uribe's Plate Discipline on Apr 13, 2011 6:47 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't think a top 5 or 6 pick is unreasonable at all
Kemba Walker is currently #5 on DX’s board and I don’t see any guarantee he ends up as good as Brandon already he is…but to be honest that also makes me wary of trading him for essentially a draft pick. I think I prefer B. Knight to Walker, though I’m not super excited about either.
by Frank Madden on Apr 13, 2011 6:53 PM CDT up reply actions
I'd love to know what Jennings is actually worth right now
I imagine there’d be a wide range if you could somehow poll the league…given his value is still driven in part by potential and potential is extremely subjective (as our debates suggest!).
by Frank Madden on Apr 13, 2011 6:48 PM CDT up reply actions
Find the GM with the worst stats department, or the biggest distrust of stats :)
Adam Dunn is Chicago Tough: "I’m a quick healer, like Wolverine. I asked the doctor yesterday how long these things take and he gave me a general answer for the public. I’m subtracting 15 days off it."
by Juan Uribe's Plate Discipline on Apr 13, 2011 6:51 PM CDT up reply actions
I would think about trading him maybe
If you could get Salmons out of town with him. Kind of stealing madtown’s idea but would people do this?
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=3uqdf4n
Would the Knicks? It would mean blowing it up and having 14m more in cap room
Just a though
"You play anybody and if they shoot 70 per cent from three, they're going to be tough to beat." More wise words from Chris Bosh
Salmons matches up in salary almost perfectly with Josh Childress...
I don’t think Childress is all that great either, but he’s like 4 years younger (and those back end years on Salmons’ deal are going to be brutal), so I hold out some irrational scintilla of hope that Salmons can be packaged with delfino or ilyasova for childress, dudley, and a pick or something. Clearly a pipe dream, but I have been dreaming of ways to get Salmons off the books since the moment he was signed.
Adam Dunn is Chicago Tough: "I’m a quick healer, like Wolverine. I asked the doctor yesterday how long these things take and he gave me a general answer for the public. I’m subtracting 15 days off it."
by Juan Uribe's Plate Discipline on Apr 13, 2011 7:06 PM CDT up reply actions
Only think is
Salmons>Childress from outside which we need but yes do the impossible move Salmons
"You play anybody and if they shoot 70 per cent from three, they're going to be tough to beat." More wise words from Chris Bosh
I know Childress isn't a very good alternative at all.
But with the new CBA there won’t be any more matching bad deals coming along any time soon. He is the last of a hopefully dying breed.
Adam Dunn is Chicago Tough: "I’m a quick healer, like Wolverine. I asked the doctor yesterday how long these things take and he gave me a general answer for the public. I’m subtracting 15 days off it."
by Juan Uribe's Plate Discipline on Apr 13, 2011 7:11 PM CDT up reply actions
Efficiency?
@Juan Uribe – Your obsession with “offensive efficiency” and pretty much putting chief blame on Jennings based on the stat, is short-sighted at best. Within the next week, I am going to post something that reveals the “noise” in basketball stats. Context is everyything in a sport such as basketball and it has THE most effect on these stats. Stay tuned.
by tommyr on Apr 13, 2011 9:50 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I don't think anybody can claim that Jennings was really efficient this year at all though...
But I’m looking forward to your post.
The Artist Formerly known as Speedingtime/Speedy
"You want Josh McRoberts? You can't HANDLE Josh McRoberts!" --Sportscenter anchor
by Jacob Grinyer on Apr 13, 2011 9:52 PM CDT up reply actions
Me too!
Adam Dunn is Chicago Tough: "I’m a quick healer, like Wolverine. I asked the doctor yesterday how long these things take and he gave me a general answer for the public. I’m subtracting 15 days off it."
by Juan Uribe's Plate Discipline on Apr 13, 2011 9:53 PM CDT up reply actions
And just to be clear, by efficiency I am referring to the rate at which a team turns possessions into points.
And the team that most efficiently uses it’s possessions will always win a given game, because possessions alternate and each team will have the same number of possessions.
So I am interested to see how you can conceptualize basketball to the point of refuting efficiency in general.
Adam Dunn is Chicago Tough: "I’m a quick healer, like Wolverine. I asked the doctor yesterday how long these things take and he gave me a general answer for the public. I’m subtracting 15 days off it."
by Juan Uribe's Plate Discipline on Apr 13, 2011 9:56 PM CDT up reply actions
I understand
But team efficiency is a team thing, correct? It’ like giving ALL the credit for a run being scored to the player with all the RBI’s.
by tommyr on Apr 13, 2011 10:03 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
But nobody's on base when Jennings misses a jumper
Adam Dunn is Chicago Tough: "I’m a quick healer, like Wolverine. I asked the doctor yesterday how long these things take and he gave me a general answer for the public. I’m subtracting 15 days off it."
by Juan Uribe's Plate Discipline on Apr 13, 2011 10:05 PM CDT up reply actions
I will put it this way ..
To put the blame on ONE player for the woes of this obviously pathetic team, is laughable and just shows that you are biased on one player. I don’t necessarily disagree with you general assessment of Jennings individually, but to put this season’s failures primarily on him is a joke.
by tommyr on Apr 13, 2011 10:18 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I don't see him basing everything on Jennings at all
The Artist Formerly known as Speedingtime/Speedy
"You want Josh McRoberts? You can't HANDLE Josh McRoberts!" --Sportscenter anchor
by Jacob Grinyer on Apr 13, 2011 10:29 PM CDT up reply actions
*blaming
The Artist Formerly known as Speedingtime/Speedy
"You want Josh McRoberts? You can't HANDLE Josh McRoberts!" --Sportscenter anchor
by Jacob Grinyer on Apr 13, 2011 10:31 PM CDT up reply actions
Not disputing efficiency from a team aspect
I am challenging the attribution of that efficiency to a single player. Your post focused on Brandon Jenning’s efficiency, then seem to make the leap to team efficiency. If the four other starters were very efficient and Jennings was not, then there is something to that. But as we now, the lack of offense on this team is hardly relegated to one player. So blaming one player is faulty if based soley on the efficiency stat.
by tommyr on Apr 13, 2011 10:09 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Let it go
We all know how you feel about him. Your argument is redundant and has no relevance to this game.Try looking at something positively. He could be Joe Alexander, instead he leads a dreadful offense and is apparently the worst on the team…
"You don't play against opponents. You play against the game..." - Bobby Knight
Jennings has also received a lot of the blame for this season
Which is absurd. We can trade him, sure, but for what? A lesser PG? Another journeyman at some other position?
A team with probably the brightest future in the league going against one of the darkest
Perfect.
The Artist Formerly known as Speedingtime/Speedy
"You want Josh McRoberts? You can't HANDLE Josh McRoberts!" --Sportscenter anchor
...Way to end the year.
The Artist Formerly known as Speedingtime/Speedy
"You want Josh McRoberts? You can't HANDLE Josh McRoberts!" --Sportscenter anchor
by Jacob Grinyer on Apr 13, 2011 4:46 PM CDT up reply actions
Lol. I like this.
Adam Dunn is Chicago Tough: "I’m a quick healer, like Wolverine. I asked the doctor yesterday how long these things take and he gave me a general answer for the public. I’m subtracting 15 days off it."
by Juan Uribe's Plate Discipline on Apr 13, 2011 5:45 PM CDT up reply actions
It could probably be played at the end of every Bucks offensive possession
The Artist Formerly known as Speedingtime/Speedy
"You want Josh McRoberts? You can't HANDLE Josh McRoberts!" --Sportscenter anchor
by Jacob Grinyer on Apr 13, 2011 5:47 PM CDT up reply actions
Somebody should make a lowlight reel of our fourth quarter offense with that as a soundtrack
I’ll post it on the frontpage…somebody get after it!
by Frank Madden on Apr 13, 2011 5:50 PM CDT up reply actions
If I could get all the juicy footage from somewhere...
It’d be a good way to kill some time ;)
The Artist Formerly known as Speedingtime/Speedy
"You want Josh McRoberts? You can't HANDLE Josh McRoberts!" --Sportscenter anchor
by Jacob Grinyer on Apr 13, 2011 5:55 PM CDT up reply actions
Does anyone want to take my 5:43PM post to task? Or offer up the reasonable and thoughtful counter-argument to those observations?
Not trying to be confrontational, but I really do struggle to avoid blaming Jennings for their lack of offensive efficiency. I know I am probably missing an important angle in my critical approach, but I’m almost at a loss for where to go. Maybe I’m just a crusty 26 year old Bucks fan :)
Adam Dunn is Chicago Tough: "I’m a quick healer, like Wolverine. I asked the doctor yesterday how long these things take and he gave me a general answer for the public. I’m subtracting 15 days off it."
by Juan Uribe's Plate Discipline on Apr 13, 2011 6:43 PM CDT reply actions
Haha
I think we may be running into Brandon debate fatigue…
by Frank Madden on Apr 13, 2011 6:56 PM CDT up reply actions
I know, I know. I will declare victory :)
*Note: I’m just kidding on the last part. As fans of the 2010-11 Bucks, we are all losers.
Adam Dunn is Chicago Tough: "I’m a quick healer, like Wolverine. I asked the doctor yesterday how long these things take and he gave me a general answer for the public. I’m subtracting 15 days off it."
by Juan Uribe's Plate Discipline on Apr 13, 2011 6:58 PM CDT up reply actions
"As fans of the 2010-11 Bucks, we are all losers."
Perfect, I just got the lead-in for my recap tonight…
by Frank Madden on Apr 13, 2011 7:02 PM CDT up reply actions
Haha.
This game is especially painful because the Thunder are the team we used to be emulating…
Adam Dunn is Chicago Tough: "I’m a quick healer, like Wolverine. I asked the doctor yesterday how long these things take and he gave me a general answer for the public. I’m subtracting 15 days off it."
by Juan Uribe's Plate Discipline on Apr 13, 2011 7:04 PM CDT up reply actions
To date myself
Is Juan Uribe any relation to Jose Uribe? I don’t follow baseball anymore
"You play anybody and if they shoot 70 per cent from three, they're going to be tough to beat." More wise words from Chris Bosh
Don't think so. Wikipedia doesn't say he is, so therefore he can't be.
You don’t follow baseball anymore? Expos fan? Otherwise, comon back to the diamond. It’s a beautiful game!
Adam Dunn is Chicago Tough: "I’m a quick healer, like Wolverine. I asked the doctor yesterday how long these things take and he gave me a general answer for the public. I’m subtracting 15 days off it."
by Juan Uribe's Plate Discipline on Apr 13, 2011 7:09 PM CDT up reply actions
Huge Expos fan from 1969 forward
1994 season killed most of my interest, then the BS home run record chase finished it off.
Nothing better than going to a game with a scorecard in one hand and a beer in the other though, I do miss it.
"You play anybody and if they shoot 70 per cent from three, they're going to be tough to beat." More wise words from Chris Bosh
Then you have a good excuse. I connected the Canada tag with a disconnect from baseball and figured you had to be an Expos guy.
Sorry for your loss. If it happens to the Bucks, I fully endorse an adopt-a-team freebie.
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by Juan Uribe's Plate Discipline on Apr 13, 2011 7:14 PM CDT up reply actions
Are you from Montreal, CB?
Pretty awesome city, though I’ve only been there during the winter…
by Frank Madden on Apr 13, 2011 7:14 PM CDT up reply actions
Actually was born and raised half-way between TO and Montreal
Live closer to TO now. Went to 50 or so Expos games over the years….Saw the first ever playoff game in the Big O…3 days before Black Monday. Saw some really good players and teams, just one of those teams that could never get over the hump, always one team better. And yes Montreal is great.
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Not a huge baseball fan myself
But yeah, they’re a lot more fun for me when you actually go to the game as opposed to watching it on TV..
Otherwise I’m as casual as a fan as it gets. I’ll probably end up becoming a bigger fan at some point…
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by Jacob Grinyer on Apr 13, 2011 7:19 PM CDT up reply actions
It's never too early to start!
My beloved White Sox could always use another fan
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by Juan Uribe's Plate Discipline on Apr 13, 2011 7:20 PM CDT up reply actions
Time for another
Disco demolition night!!
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Brewers fan here ;)
But you guys are the better Chicago team, so you got that from us. :)
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by Jacob Grinyer on Apr 13, 2011 7:22 PM CDT up reply actions
Out of all pro sports
I only prefer baseball and soccer live….not taking into account atmosphere etc. just talking about watching the game
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Btw, was reading the RealGM thread about people wanting to fire Hammond...
And I wondered how we would view Presti today if the Thunder/Sonics had won the lottery in the Durant year. Presumably Presti picks Oden, right?
Then what? Westbrook was an inspired pick, but…
by Frank Madden on Apr 13, 2011 7:12 PM CDT up reply actions
Presti would forsee it!!!!!11111 ;)
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by Jacob Grinyer on Apr 13, 2011 7:15 PM CDT up reply actions
It was mentioned earlier in another thread, but same thing with the Spurs model and the Duncan pick.
And Gar/Pax and the Bulls…they are a crazy lottery odds miracle away from being in worse shape than the Bucks.
The Bucks need some luck too, but the Thunder executed a discernable plan.
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by Juan Uribe's Plate Discipline on Apr 13, 2011 7:15 PM CDT up reply actions
If Juan wants to declare victory ..
He can … We’re all punch drunk by the Bucks this season. My guess is that NO player is sacred enough to be untouchable. I think we can ALL agree on that.
by tommyr on Apr 13, 2011 10:46 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Funny
I’d like to cheer for the Thunder during the playoffs but I can’t forgive the whole Zombie Sonics fiasco.
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I blame all of that on Howard Schultz...
Do you think he really expected Bennett to keep them in Seattle?
by Frank Madden on Apr 13, 2011 7:27 PM CDT up reply actions
It is kind of weird...
If he really did, then something was kind of wrong there. You’d think:
Oklahoma businessman + Hornets in Oklahoma City for a year + aging arena + Mediocrity = Oklahoma City Zombie Sonics
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by Jacob Grinyer on Apr 13, 2011 7:31 PM CDT up reply actions
If the world made sense...
They would have just kept the Hornets in OKC.
by Frank Madden on Apr 13, 2011 7:33 PM CDT up reply actions
Charlotte up 15
On Atlanta
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Can't anybody tank correctly anymore?
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by Juan Uribe's Plate Discipline on Apr 13, 2011 7:34 PM CDT up reply actions
It's a lost art
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by Jacob Grinyer on Apr 13, 2011 7:35 PM CDT up reply actions
I dont think Atlanta
Is trying hard either
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looked smooth too
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by Juan Uribe's Plate Discipline on Apr 13, 2011 7:30 PM CDT up reply actions
Wow Jennings 4 steals
he’s a keeper isn’t he :P
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First one I've ever seen
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by Jacob Grinyer on Apr 13, 2011 7:32 PM CDT up reply actions
Jennings with that left hand layup on the right side is getting a one way ticket to swat city
Thunder players read scouting reports apparently.
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by Juan Uribe's Plate Discipline on Apr 13, 2011 7:32 PM CDT reply actions
That's getting blocked regardless of the hand
by Frank Madden on Apr 13, 2011 7:35 PM CDT up reply actions
Consider how much higher the angle is off the glass with the right hand though
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by Juan Uribe's Plate Discipline on Apr 13, 2011 7:36 PM CDT up reply actions
Can the Bucks hire a shooting coach or something to work with Jennings?
Or is his ego too big for that…
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by Jacob Grinyer on Apr 13, 2011 7:36 PM CDT up reply actions
Maybe they can invest inslightly bigger rims at home. Or slightly smaller balls.
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by Juan Uribe's Plate Discipline on Apr 13, 2011 7:37 PM CDT up reply actions
Or slightly smaller balls.
Considering this is part of a discussion about ego, lulzy.
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by Jacob Grinyer on Apr 13, 2011 7:38 PM CDT up reply actions
Lower rims would be ideal
He’s a little guy.
by Frank Madden on Apr 13, 2011 7:40 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm assuming the Knicks
Own the tie-breaker over the Sixers, anyone confirm that?
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The East was set a few days ago.
So they must own the breaker.
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by Juan Uribe's Plate Discipline on Apr 13, 2011 7:39 PM CDT up reply actions
I see they're interviewing Hammond at halftime
Won’t this be fun.
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BJ Lullens?
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by Juan Uribe's Plate Discipline on Apr 13, 2011 7:45 PM CDT up reply actions
Maybe Skiles and Maggette
Will work things out over the off season and he’ll be an integral part of the Bucks next year.
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That implies either Skiles or Maggette is capable of change
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by Juan Uribe's Plate Discipline on Apr 13, 2011 7:45 PM CDT up reply actions
Will you be here all night?
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by Jacob Grinyer on Apr 13, 2011 7:46 PM CDT up reply actions
(That was a stand up comedy reference)
(I was not implying that I want you to leave)
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by Jacob Grinyer on Apr 13, 2011 7:46 PM CDT up reply actions
It was irony
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*Ironing
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by Jacob Grinyer on Apr 13, 2011 7:49 PM CDT up reply actions
And the raps getting beat by the Heat
Bosh, james and Wade haven’t played a minute.
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Speaking of tanking?
Or just terrible basketball
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by Jacob Grinyer on Apr 13, 2011 7:47 PM CDT up reply actions
That Raps roster they were trotting out against the Bucks wasn't much of anything to look at either...
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by Juan Uribe's Plate Discipline on Apr 13, 2011 7:48 PM CDT up reply actions
I know
Thats why It was scary we only beat them by 7 or w/e
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Agreed.
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by Juan Uribe's Plate Discipline on Apr 13, 2011 7:50 PM CDT up reply actions
Larry Sanders needs to take a two-week course in getting good position for pick and roll screens.
He’s always moving around like the guy who sets fruity picks from the Prince sketch in Chappelle Show
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by Juan Uribe's Plate Discipline on Apr 13, 2011 7:47 PM CDT reply actions
He needs to take a 52-week course in rebounding position
also: respect for referencing the Prince sketch.
by Frank Madden on Apr 13, 2011 7:50 PM CDT up reply actions
Ahhhh good times
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by Juan Uribe's Plate Discipline on Apr 13, 2011 7:51 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm not adept enough at all these functions like adding pics and using the blockquote yet, so you will need to carry me into next season.
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by Juan Uribe's Plate Discipline on Apr 13, 2011 7:52 PM CDT up reply actions
Maybe he should then
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by Jacob Grinyer on Apr 13, 2011 7:52 PM CDT up reply actions
Well PLAYED!
*Note: I am not talking about this game or the Bucks’ season. Only the recent reference to Half Baked by Jacob. G
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by Juan Uribe's Plate Discipline on Apr 13, 2011 7:54 PM CDT up reply actions
Haha
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by Jacob Grinyer on Apr 13, 2011 7:56 PM CDT up reply actions
Yo I believe him, B.
I don’t know why, I just do.
by Frank Madden on Apr 13, 2011 7:56 PM CDT up reply actions
If I wanted to hear this much music I would go to a concert, Thunder arena people...
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Ugh, Brandon
I accept that Jennings will always be too small to finish over big guys, but when you’ve got an unimpeded look on your strong hand…
I never watch halftime shows in general
But I might just to see what Hammond has to say.
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I'm scared. I expect most of it to be PR type stuff, and I don't expect to get his actual feelings...
But I hope he doesn’t try to blow sunshine up our collective arses. No “I think we are close” or “if not for some untimely injuries…” or “I really like our core”…please…for the love of basketball…please…
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by Juan Uribe's Plate Discipline on Apr 13, 2011 8:00 PM CDT up reply actions
Also, I keep scrolling up just to see Chappelle as Prince.
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by Juan Uribe's Plate Discipline on Apr 13, 2011 8:01 PM CDT up reply actions
In the little teaser they showed for it he said
“I still think we can right this ship” Does that count? :P
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by Jacob Grinyer on Apr 13, 2011 8:01 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm waiting for the full context...I can wait that long.
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by Juan Uribe's Plate Discipline on Apr 13, 2011 8:02 PM CDT up reply actions
But like I said, I'm scared.
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by Juan Uribe's Plate Discipline on Apr 13, 2011 8:02 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm guessing it'll be a combo of...
Admitting the team didn’t live up to expectations/have to play better and then a few tablespoons of injury excuses.
by Frank Madden on Apr 13, 2011 8:03 PM CDT up reply actions
Guh.
They keep saying the interview is honest and frank….anything like what you described would be a complete letdown….but a great hook to get me to watch the halftime show.
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by Juan Uribe's Plate Discipline on Apr 13, 2011 8:04 PM CDT up reply actions
But he can't NOT mention the injuries...
In the big picture that’s not what worries me about the franchise, but it’s absolutely part of the narrative for the problems this season.
by Frank Madden on Apr 13, 2011 8:09 PM CDT up reply actions
Maybe he says
Look …my bad…..I fu%$$#ed up…thought we were close and signed the only guys that I thought would come. Please forgive me
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Like Kim Hughes formerly of the Nets and Nugggets
Over a span of 4 years he was 61-184 at the line.
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What pick was Mullens again? Late lottery?
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by Juan Uribe's Plate Discipline on Apr 13, 2011 8:03 PM CDT up reply actions
Ad what ever happened to Cole Aldrich.
The Thunder traded two first rounders to move up to the 11th pick and he has only played 18 games this year. I guess this was his red-shirt year.
by Brick's house on Apr 13, 2011 8:15 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Presti has a thing for raw big men I guess
Ibaka worked out…
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by Jacob Grinyer on Apr 13, 2011 8:16 PM CDT up reply actions
Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
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by Juan Uribe's Plate Discipline on Apr 13, 2011 8:08 PM CDT reply actions
NNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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by Juan Uribe's Plate Discipline on Apr 13, 2011 8:08 PM CDT up reply actions
Fire everyone.
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by Juan Uribe's Plate Discipline on Apr 13, 2011 8:09 PM CDT up reply actions
Frank Madden for Bucks GM?
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by Jacob Grinyer on Apr 13, 2011 8:09 PM CDT up reply actions
Haha
I’m sure you would all grow to hate me if it happened. I mean, that’s how these things work…
by Frank Madden on Apr 13, 2011 8:13 PM CDT up reply actions
You only get hired to get fired
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by Juan Uribe's Plate Discipline on Apr 13, 2011 8:16 PM CDT up reply actions
Just saw Kobe was fined 100k for his comment
Chump change really isn’t it?
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Is there a limit on how much they can fine?
I’m surprised this hasn’t happened more often…
by Frank Madden on Apr 13, 2011 8:14 PM CDT up reply actions
Just weird that it's such a sensitive thing and
he gets 100k fine and Charlie V. gets 5 games for what he does
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At least Kobe's thing was a split-second bad judgment thing
CV’s whole thing was a joke…I mean, get into a fight, then try to run the guy down, then go looking for him in the locker room…has there been any explanation offered for what the heck he was so heated about?
by Frank Madden on Apr 13, 2011 8:19 PM CDT up reply actions
Someone asked where his eyebrows went?
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Cold
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by Jacob Grinyer on Apr 13, 2011 8:21 PM CDT up reply actions
Or maybe someone asked him why he looks like this when he hits a 4th quarter shot
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by Juan Uribe's Plate Discipline on Apr 13, 2011 8:31 PM CDT up reply actions
Line-up on the floor
Isn’t conducive to out rebounding the Thunder
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Thunder aren't too worried about Gooden
For good reason
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"You want Josh McRoberts? You can't HANDLE Josh McRoberts!" --Sportscenter anchor
So he's essentially useless
Yay.
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by Jacob Grinyer on Apr 13, 2011 8:32 PM CDT up reply actions
9th suddenly looking like a good chance
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If only this draft didn't completely blow
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by Jacob Grinyer on Apr 13, 2011 8:45 PM CDT up reply actions
Ok Enter Sandman plz
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And he shouldn't sit down again
"You play anybody and if they shoot 70 per cent from three, they're going to be tough to beat." More wise words from Chris Bosh
But Drew Gooden has SO earned the time more...
by Frank Madden on Apr 13, 2011 8:38 PM CDT up reply actions
I thought it was
He’s not in the rotation(Sanders I mean)
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For today yes
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I'm good for the time being
We’ll have a long summer to re-hash it :)
by Frank Madden on Apr 13, 2011 8:41 PM CDT up reply actions
Well it's a good one
because there’s validity on both sides
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CDR arguments >>>>>> Jennings arguments.
But that’s debatable.
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by Jacob Grinyer on Apr 13, 2011 8:44 PM CDT up reply actions
+17
Nothing stirred this board up or received the most controversy/hate comments more than a mere mention of CDR. Those comments would reach the 250-300 mark. What/Who will BrewHoop talk about Next season when CDR is having a breakout season?
by BuckEm on Apr 13, 2011 9:07 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Probably how he deserves the DLeague MVP
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by Juan Uribe's Plate Discipline on Apr 13, 2011 9:08 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
What's your beef with CDR, Starbury...er, Juan?
by CDRFORTHEWIN on Apr 13, 2011 10:02 PM CDT up reply actions
You know who I am! Good call.
I have no beef, but I have no interest either. It is perfectly normal for players to be both young and bad in the NBA. He is just one of those guys.
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by Juan Uribe's Plate Discipline on Apr 13, 2011 10:03 PM CDT up reply actions
Really? Your remarks seem anything but indifferent. They sound decidedly negative. The DLeague MVP?
I know who you are because you announced your identity in the Journal Sentinel and invited posters there to join you on this site where you enjoy a greater freedom of sort. No mystery. But your rancor for CDR (a Buck for all of 6 months) IS somewhat mysterious.. I like CDR too. Hope he joins a team that needs/wants him.
by CDRFORTHEWIN on Apr 13, 2011 10:18 PM CDT up reply actions
Who is this, by the way. A JSOnline guy, but what tag?
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by Juan Uribe's Plate Discipline on Apr 13, 2011 10:06 PM CDT up reply actions
The NBA needs to have one official dedicated to watching for travels
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For teh lulz
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by Jacob Grinyer on Apr 13, 2011 8:52 PM CDT up reply actions
Anyone know Sanders hi in boards?
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Pretty sure he's had a double-double this year
by Frank Madden on Apr 13, 2011 8:54 PM CDT up reply actions
8 blocks!
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by Jacob Grinyer on Apr 13, 2011 8:56 PM CDT up reply actions
And Detroit
3 games prior, just checked the logs
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John McGlocklin loves James Harden
That can only mean one thing…
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Atlanta closes to 4
MJ must have had a half-time chat with the team
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It says 11 point lead for Bobcats for me
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by Jacob Grinyer on Apr 13, 2011 8:59 PM CDT up reply actions
Looks like it's Atlanta's scrubs in that one...
by Frank Madden on Apr 13, 2011 8:59 PM CDT up reply actions
ya 7-0 run
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And he loses a rebound
The Artist Formerly known as Speedingtime/Speedy
"You want Josh McRoberts? You can't HANDLE Josh McRoberts!" --Sportscenter anchor
by Jacob Grinyer on Apr 13, 2011 9:06 PM CDT up reply actions
BJ Lullenz comes through.
And Sanders’ hands are bad.
The Artist Formerly known as Speedingtime/Speedy
"You want Josh McRoberts? You can't HANDLE Josh McRoberts!" --Sportscenter anchor
need to talk to Fred Biletnikoff
about stick-um
"You play anybody and if they shoot 70 per cent from three, they're going to be tough to beat." More wise words from Chris Bosh
Michael Redd for 3
Ahh, nostalgia.
The Artist Formerly known as Speedingtime/Speedy
"You want Josh McRoberts? You can't HANDLE Josh McRoberts!" --Sportscenter anchor
lol
The Artist Formerly known as Speedingtime/Speedy
"You want Josh McRoberts? You can't HANDLE Josh McRoberts!" --Sportscenter anchor
by Jacob Grinyer on Apr 13, 2011 9:10 PM CDT up reply actions
Why did we let him go
Oh ya he sucks
"You play anybody and if they shoot 70 per cent from three, they're going to be tough to beat." More wise words from Chris Bosh
The most regal name in the association
Adam Dunn is Chicago Tough: "I’m a quick healer, like Wolverine. I asked the doctor yesterday how long these things take and he gave me a general answer for the public. I’m subtracting 15 days off it."
by Juan Uribe's Plate Discipline on Apr 13, 2011 9:10 PM CDT up reply actions
The #9 pick is fading
The Artist Formerly known as Speedingtime/Speedy
"You want Josh McRoberts? You can't HANDLE Josh McRoberts!" --Sportscenter anchor
Charlotte did their part
"You play anybody and if they shoot 70 per cent from three, they're going to be tough to beat." More wise words from Chris Bosh
Royal is -9
In 2:49
"You play anybody and if they shoot 70 per cent from three, they're going to be tough to beat." More wise words from Chris Bosh
Can we still make the playoffs as an at-large bid?
by Frank Madden on Apr 13, 2011 9:13 PM CDT up reply actions 4 recs
We'll need to get in via the conference, er, division tournament.
We get the Cavs in the first round.
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Author at Acme Packing Company, a Green Bay Packers blog
by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Apr 13, 2011 9:20 PM CDT up reply actions
It's all a conspiracy
The Artist Formerly known as Speedingtime/Speedy
"You want Josh McRoberts? You can't HANDLE Josh McRoberts!" --Sportscenter anchor
by Jacob Grinyer on Apr 13, 2011 9:14 PM CDT up reply actions
Depends on the BCS ranking
And difficulty of schedule
"You play anybody and if they shoot 70 per cent from three, they're going to be tough to beat." More wise words from Chris Bosh
Our RPI gets a major boost from the sweep of Dallas
not to mention that slaughtering of the Lakers in their own building.
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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Apr 13, 2011 9:20 PM CDT up reply actions
Overtime?! Really?!
Gahhhh
The Artist Formerly known as Speedingtime/Speedy
"You want Josh McRoberts? You can't HANDLE Josh McRoberts!" --Sportscenter anchor
Dallas up big so OKC is 4th no matter what right?
"You play anybody and if they shoot 70 per cent from three, they're going to be tough to beat." More wise words from Chris Bosh
Define "win"
And do it very carefully
Adam Dunn is Chicago Tough: "I’m a quick healer, like Wolverine. I asked the doctor yesterday how long these things take and he gave me a general answer for the public. I’m subtracting 15 days off it."
by Juan Uribe's Plate Discipline on Apr 13, 2011 9:16 PM CDT up reply actions
Well KD and westbrook aren't coming back in
"You play anybody and if they shoot 70 per cent from three, they're going to be tough to beat." More wise words from Chris Bosh
Yes, overtime...
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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Apr 13, 2011 9:20 PM CDT up reply actions
The Thunder play so much damn music during their games
It annoys me.
The Artist Formerly known as Speedingtime/Speedy
"You want Josh McRoberts? You can't HANDLE Josh McRoberts!" --Sportscenter anchor
It should. It sounds like a club.
Adam Dunn is Chicago Tough: "I’m a quick healer, like Wolverine. I asked the doctor yesterday how long these things take and he gave me a general answer for the public. I’m subtracting 15 days off it."
by Juan Uribe's Plate Discipline on Apr 13, 2011 9:17 PM CDT up reply actions
How many possessions have they NOT played some sort of music or sound
The Artist Formerly known as Speedingtime/Speedy
"You want Josh McRoberts? You can't HANDLE Josh McRoberts!" --Sportscenter anchor
by Jacob Grinyer on Apr 13, 2011 9:19 PM CDT up reply actions
Raptors like that too
Why i hate going
"You play anybody and if they shoot 70 per cent from three, they're going to be tough to beat." More wise words from Chris Bosh
The Raptors are trying to distract you from the quality of basketball though...
Adam Dunn is Chicago Tough: "I’m a quick healer, like Wolverine. I asked the doctor yesterday how long these things take and he gave me a general answer for the public. I’m subtracting 15 days off it."
by Juan Uribe's Plate Discipline on Apr 13, 2011 9:23 PM CDT up reply actions
There's that
"You play anybody and if they shoot 70 per cent from three, they're going to be tough to beat." More wise words from Chris Bosh
Ah yes, "Them"
The Artist Formerly known as Speedingtime/Speedy
"You want Josh McRoberts? You can't HANDLE Josh McRoberts!" --Sportscenter anchor
by Jacob Grinyer on Apr 13, 2011 9:25 PM CDT up reply actions
3-10 should silence the critics
"You play anybody and if they shoot 70 per cent from three, they're going to be tough to beat." More wise words from Chris Bosh
Consider me silenced
Adam Dunn is Chicago Tough: "I’m a quick healer, like Wolverine. I asked the doctor yesterday how long these things take and he gave me a general answer for the public. I’m subtracting 15 days off it."
by Juan Uribe's Plate Discipline on Apr 13, 2011 9:19 PM CDT up reply actions
Seriously he has done it when it counts
for the most part this year
"You play anybody and if they shoot 70 per cent from three, they're going to be tough to beat." More wise words from Chris Bosh
BJ Lullens?
Adam Dunn is Chicago Tough: "I’m a quick healer, like Wolverine. I asked the doctor yesterday how long these things take and he gave me a general answer for the public. I’m subtracting 15 days off it."
by Juan Uribe's Plate Discipline on Apr 13, 2011 9:22 PM CDT up reply actions
They are trying to gain momentum
for going into next year.
"You play anybody and if they shoot 70 per cent from three, they're going to be tough to beat." More wise words from Chris Bosh
After the lockout.
The Artist Formerly known as Speedingtime/Speedy
"You want Josh McRoberts? You can't HANDLE Josh McRoberts!" --Sportscenter anchor
by Jacob Grinyer on Apr 13, 2011 9:25 PM CDT up reply actions
Like a good neighbor, State Farm is there....
With a really crappy tank job!
Adam Dunn is Chicago Tough: "I’m a quick healer, like Wolverine. I asked the doctor yesterday how long these things take and he gave me a general answer for the public. I’m subtracting 15 days off it."
by Juan Uribe's Plate Discipline on Apr 13, 2011 9:26 PM CDT reply actions
And a depressing interview with Hammond!
Adam Dunn is Chicago Tough: "I’m a quick healer, like Wolverine. I asked the doctor yesterday how long these things take and he gave me a general answer for the public. I’m subtracting 15 days off it."
by Juan Uribe's Plate Discipline on Apr 13, 2011 9:26 PM CDT up reply actions
Give me the details.
If there are any to be found.
The Artist Formerly known as Speedingtime/Speedy
"You want Josh McRoberts? You can't HANDLE Josh McRoberts!" --Sportscenter anchor
by Jacob Grinyer on Apr 13, 2011 9:29 PM CDT up reply actions
More of these nights from Ersan
Would be nice
"You play anybody and if they shoot 70 per cent from three, they're going to be tough to beat." More wise words from Chris Bosh
110-106.
3 consecutive wins to close out the year.
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Author at Acme Packing Company, a Green Bay Packers blog
by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Apr 13, 2011 9:29 PM CDT reply actions
Somewhat enjoyable, at least.
The Artist Formerly known as Speedingtime/Speedy
"You want Josh McRoberts? You can't HANDLE Josh McRoberts!" --Sportscenter anchor
by Jacob Grinyer on Apr 13, 2011 9:31 PM CDT up reply actions
The Bucks eliminated the Thunder from the regular season, as far as I'm concerned
Adam Dunn is Chicago Tough: "I’m a quick healer, like Wolverine. I asked the doctor yesterday how long these things take and he gave me a general answer for the public. I’m subtracting 15 days off it."
by Juan Uribe's Plate Discipline on Apr 13, 2011 9:32 PM CDT up reply actions
Adam Dunn is Chicago Tough: "I’m a quick healer, like Wolverine. I asked the doctor yesterday how long these things take and he gave me a general answer for the public. I’m subtracting 15 days off it."
by Juan Uribe's Plate Discipline on Apr 13, 2011 9:34 PM CDT reply actions
This kind of sums up the Bucks' season, too
Substituting “season” for “life,” obviously.
I never use a big word when a diminutive word would suffice.
*sob*
The Artist Formerly known as Speedingtime/Speedy
"You want Josh McRoberts? You can't HANDLE Josh McRoberts!" --Sportscenter anchor
by Jacob Grinyer on Apr 13, 2011 9:43 PM CDT up reply actions
At least we're not Wolves fans
"You play anybody and if they shoot 70 per cent from three, they're going to be tough to beat." More wise words from Chris Bosh
I'd be picking apart Rubio's euro shooting numbers right now...
Adam Dunn is Chicago Tough: "I’m a quick healer, like Wolverine. I asked the doctor yesterday how long these things take and he gave me a general answer for the public. I’m subtracting 15 days off it."
by Juan Uribe's Plate Discipline on Apr 13, 2011 9:37 PM CDT up reply actions
Rubio? Numbers? Surely you jest.
Jordan Taylor would be a better investment for that team than Ricky Rubio…
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Author at Acme Packing Company, a Green Bay Packers blog
by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Apr 13, 2011 9:38 PM CDT up reply actions
Try Wes Johnson
"You play anybody and if they shoot 70 per cent from three, they're going to be tough to beat." More wise words from Chris Bosh
Hammond on what went wrong: "First and foremost it's injuries..."
Defiance about this ‘fact.’ Bleh. I’m gonna be sick.
Adam Dunn is Chicago Tough: "I’m a quick healer, like Wolverine. I asked the doctor yesterday how long these things take and he gave me a general answer for the public. I’m subtracting 15 days off it."
by Juan Uribe's Plate Discipline on Apr 13, 2011 9:40 PM CDT reply actions
On why the offense blows: "We can talk about all kinds of scenarios...but I am going to circle back to the injuries"
“Even the injuries affected our ability to shoot the ball..”
“I know that our players realize it, they need to become more efficient.”
At least he says they are looking to improve themselves
Adam Dunn is Chicago Tough: "I’m a quick healer, like Wolverine. I asked the doctor yesterday how long these things take and he gave me a general answer for the public. I’m subtracting 15 days off it."
by Juan Uribe's Plate Discipline on Apr 13, 2011 9:41 PM CDT up reply actions
But so far, so bad on this interview
Adam Dunn is Chicago Tough: "I’m a quick healer, like Wolverine. I asked the doctor yesterday how long these things take and he gave me a general answer for the public. I’m subtracting 15 days off it."
by Juan Uribe's Plate Discipline on Apr 13, 2011 9:42 PM CDT up reply actions
oh oh
If GS loses tonight we could be flipping for 11th
"You play anybody and if they shoot 70 per cent from three, they're going to be tough to beat." More wise words from Chris Bosh
Okay, well, here we are.
The Artist Formerly known as Speedingtime/Speedy
"You want Josh McRoberts? You can't HANDLE Josh McRoberts!" --Sportscenter anchor
"We've already proven what we can do...I have faith in our coach...I have faith in our players..."
Adam Dunn is Chicago Tough: "I’m a quick healer, like Wolverine. I asked the doctor yesterday how long these things take and he gave me a general answer for the public. I’m subtracting 15 days off it."
by Juan Uribe's Plate Discipline on Apr 13, 2011 9:48 PM CDT reply actions
Seriously what would you have him say
"You play anybody and if they shoot 70 per cent from three, they're going to be tough to beat." More wise words from Chris Bosh
Well, hopefully it's just PR stuff
The Artist Formerly known as Speedingtime/Speedy
"You want Josh McRoberts? You can't HANDLE Josh McRoberts!" --Sportscenter anchor
by Jacob Grinyer on Apr 13, 2011 9:52 PM CDT up reply actions
Yea...but All Aboard the FailBoat would have worked for me.
Adam Dunn is Chicago Tough: "I’m a quick healer, like Wolverine. I asked the doctor yesterday how long these things take and he gave me a general answer for the public. I’m subtracting 15 days off it."
by Juan Uribe's Plate Discipline on Apr 13, 2011 9:53 PM CDT reply actions
"John, what do you think-"
“ALL ABOARD THE FAILBOAT!”
The Artist Formerly known as Speedingtime/Speedy
"You want Josh McRoberts? You can't HANDLE Josh McRoberts!" --Sportscenter anchor
by Jacob Grinyer on Apr 13, 2011 9:55 PM CDT up reply actions
Yes!
Adam Dunn is Chicago Tough: "I’m a quick healer, like Wolverine. I asked the doctor yesterday how long these things take and he gave me a general answer for the public. I’m subtracting 15 days off it."
by Juan Uribe's Plate Discipline on Apr 13, 2011 9:57 PM CDT up reply actions
IT'S A TRAP!
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Author at Acme Packing Company, a Green Bay Packers blog
by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Apr 13, 2011 10:02 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
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