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NBA Draft 2011: Will the Milwaukee Bucks swing another draft week trade?

The week of the draft is upon us, and if the past is any indication it could once again be a busy one for the Milwaukee Bucks. Though he doesn't have any incentive to say otherwise, Billy McKinney did go out of his way this week to say the Bucks were happy to keep their pick AND had received high level interest from other teams. Fair enough. However, during his latest chat, Chad Ford suggested the Bucks could once again be active around draft time: 

I've got my eye on the Bucks as well. For the last two years they've made big trades on draft night. They kept their pick both times, but this year might be different. The team thinks that they're a 45- to 50-win ball club if they're healthy. Adding another veteran to the mix might help push that along.

If history is any indication, Ford and McKinney could both be right. John Hammond has pulled off a big deal in the days leading up to the draft every year since arriving in 2008, and none of them have involved the Bucks' first round pick: trading for Richard Jefferson in 2008, dumping Jefferson in 2009, and acquiring Corey Maggette in 2010. It's also worth noting that Ford was seen sitting next to Hammond in Treviso last week during the EuroCamp, though that's hardly a smoking gun indicating a blockbuster is on the way. Aside from the much-denied Brandon Jennings chatter, there's been little buzz about the Bucks looking to make a big move, but that probably shouldn't mean much. The Bucks have been very good at keeping their dealings on the down-low, so odds are if the Bucks do cook something up we won't know about it in advance.

Star-divide

But what could the Bucks actually do in the way of trades?  No one's going to be interested in John Salmons, Maggette, or Drew Gooden, not without giving up something valuable and/or taking another poison pill back. And you could argue it's an especially bad time to try to deal Salmons and Gooden anyway. Their value can't get much lower, given their struggles last year, remaining dollars owed them and the CBA anxiety many teams are feeling. I'd argue Maggette is probably worth moving even if it's just for another bad contract, if only because the Bucks can't afford to let $10 million rot on the bench. If Scott Skiles doesn't think Maggette can give him 20-25 minutes a night then it's important the Bucks find a better fit for both sides, even if they just end up with another overpaid guy.

As far as assets go, things obviously start with Jennings and Andrew Bogut, but I'd be surprised if they moved Jennings and utterly shocked if they dealt Bogut. There was a rumor this morning from Minneapolis of Bogut to the Wolves for the #2 overall pick (h/t RealGM), but no suggestion that the Bucks would have been the ones offering. As much as I like Derrick Williams, I don't think it makes much sense a Bucks perspective, and it would be rather inconsistent with the Bucks' stance on their current roster. On the flip side it makes a ton of sense if you're Minnesota, which has been rumored to be shopping its pick for weeks and is desperate for a center to pair with Kevin Love. So you can probably guess how that started.

As Ford notes, the Bucks' brass doesn't seem to think a blow-up is in order, and they're not well-positioned for that anyway. Blowing it up generally means trading productive but high-priced/aging veterans for expiring deals and picks, but the Bucks simply don't have those kinds of assets. Ersan Ilyasova and Larry Sanders have some appeal, whether it's for another player or to acquire a mid-to-late first rounder.  My bet would be on Ilyasova as the most likely to go, given he's cheap, young and could easily plug into almost any team's rotation. That also makes him useful to the Bucks, but with just one year left on his deal it's anybody's guess if his long-term future is in Milwaukee.

That leaves the Bucks' draft picks, both the 10th and 40th picks this year and whatever they end up with in next year's purportedly strong draft. Hammond has yet to deal a first round pick, and there's a strong argument against swapping cheap upside for more proven but costly veterans. While the Bucks are unlikely to get a star or even an impact player at number ten, there's at least a chance--which you can't say about their hopes in free agency. Moreover, talented youngsters on rookie deals typically play major roles in getting superstar deals dones; see the deals that landed the Nets Deron Williams and the Knicks Carmelo Anthony. An easier deal to pull off could involve other teams' younger players, among which there are a number who would likely make much more of an impact than anyone they could draft: O.J. Mayo, J.J. Hickson, Jordan Hill, Jason Thompson, etc.  Still, building a good team on a reasonable budget almost always requires getting things right in the draft, not simply pawning off picks for shorter term help.

Lastly, the Bucks could stay in the draft but move to trade up or down. Jonathan Givony tweets that the Knicks are apparently looking to trade up from their #17 slot for a chance at Bismack Biyombo, pegging the Warriors at #11 as the team they might need to jump. If Detroit passes on Biyombo at number eight, then the Bucks would fit the bill. Odds are at least one or two of the guys the Bucks have worked out falls as far as the Knicks--Alec Burks, Marshon Brooks, Jordan Hamilton, and Tristan Thompson the most likely--so it would then come down to whether the Bucks have a strong preference and how much they want to risk letting a guy they like slip. The other alternative is looking to add another first to scoop up another prospect who slips. While this draft isn't considered strong up top, many like the depth of the draft once you get outside the top ten, and the Bucks have worked out a few guys likely to be available after the 15th pick, including Markieff Morris, Tristan Thompson, and Tyler Honeycutt.

Personally, I'm still fascinated by Biyombo as well, but I wonder if the Bucks are willing to gamble on another raw young big given their struggles scoring. Biyombo is meeting with the Raptors, Pistons and Knicks in the days leading up to the draft, though only Detroit is considered likely to pick him ahead of the Bucks. Moving up is probably less likely, and may not be worth much given the uncertainty over everyone after the top two and the high price it would take to snag Minnesota's pick. 

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What could the Knicks offer to entice you to move 7 slots?

Landry Fields? Toney Douglas? Renaldo Balkman? Ronny Turiaf? Bill Walker? I’d take Fields but guess that wouldn’t be happening. Oops forgot fellow Canuck Andy Rautins, well never mind.

"He always plays like he's a pit bull that hasn't been fed in about a year and that you've got pork chops in your pockets and that's the basketball." Of course, he's Canadian

by CanadaBucks on Jun 18, 2011 1:54 PM CDT reply actions  

How about.....

I’m w/o ESPN trade check at work but try this…..

Fields, Turiaf(assuming he takes his option) and 17 for Salmons and 10. Would you do it? Think I would and take any of Leonard, Marcus Morris, Tyler Honeycutt, Kenneth Faried or Tobias Harris(like this guy just not sure if he’s a Hobson with more upside).

"He always plays like he's a pit bull that hasn't been fed in about a year and that you've got pork chops in your pockets and that's the basketball." Of course, he's Canadian

by CanadaBucks on Jun 18, 2011 2:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't think the Bucks really want to get rid of Salmons just yet

I don’t see much as far as options between the Knicks and Bucks personally. Fields, 17 for 10? Maybe, but I’d still want the Bucks to be able to get one of Marshon Brooks, Klay Thompson, or Alec Burks.

by FearTheDeer on Jun 18, 2011 2:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

I agree with Fields

He would be the only one I want, but if you had Salmons, Fields plus one of the three you mentioned do you even need Salmons? Thought the Knicks might be looking for a 2 guard if they’re giving us Fields as well. Doubt anything like that will happen anyway, don’t think the Bucks will move back unless something too good to say no to comes up(I keep thinking about 14 and 23 from the Rockets)

"He always plays like he's a pit bull that hasn't been fed in about a year and that you've got pork chops in your pockets and that's the basketball." Of course, he's Canadian

by CanadaBucks on Jun 18, 2011 2:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

14 & 23

Best trade option for the Bucks by far. They’d definitely miss Klay Thompson, but Burks or Marshon would still be on the board.

by FearTheDeer on Jun 18, 2011 10:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

What's in it for Houston?

Not sure what they’re after, but I would assume they don’t have a huge urge to move up four spots unless they’re getting more in return, right?

by Frank Madden on Jun 19, 2011 1:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

I was dreaming

Not saying they would do it but if they were really hot for someone(Leonard maybe)and he was at 10 would they pull the trigger? As I was saying I doubt there will be much worth moving back for but that would be something I would do it for. A team once traded 9 and 19 for 6 so I heard.

"He always plays like he's a pit bull that hasn't been fed in about a year and that you've got pork chops in your pockets and that's the basketball." Of course, he's Canadian

by CanadaBucks on Jun 19, 2011 7:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

10th pick

There is a lot in it for Houston if the want a particular player. Biyombo, Leonard, etc. That’s the only thing that’s ever in it

by FearTheDeer on Jun 19, 2011 8:46 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Does anybody trust Hammond anymore? Why?

Each of his moves last year was a collossal failure. He laughably stated that the players we were getting would have value both for the team and in the league via trades, yet each player not only was worthless for the Bucks, but the way we used those players decreased their value exponentially. He was gifted 2012 cap space in the forms of Michael Redd and Gadzuric’s expiring contracts and he parlayed it into Corey Maggette. He went all in on the dreggiest dregs of the summer of LeBron, outbidding himself on a bunch of washed up career losers. If this month doesn’t work out well for the team, I think we need to seriously consider hitting the reset button during the lockout and try to hire Kevin Pritchard.

by MadTown Hoops on Jun 18, 2011 3:19 PM CDT reply actions  

Had to delete your previous comment because of the swearing, but feel free to repost a cleaned up version.

by Frank Madden on Jun 18, 2011 3:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

Just for the record, I never proposed giving MN the 10th pick in a deal for Bogues

Bogut for 2, 20, and a decent player to make the money work… that’s what I proposed.

by victor s on Jun 19, 2011 1:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Define decent player

On the Minny roster. Love and ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

"He always plays like he's a pit bull that hasn't been fed in about a year and that you've got pork chops in your pockets and that's the basketball." Of course, he's Canadian

by CanadaBucks on Jun 19, 2011 1:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

Luke Ridnour......oh wait

That," says LeBron, "is for everyone that watches me play. They witness something special. You're all a witness.

by ILIKEBJ'S on Jun 19, 2011 1:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

Actually Randolph would be ok

But we would have to clear out some of our PFs. other than those two no one on Minny would make me pull the trigger.

"He always plays like he's a pit bull that hasn't been fed in about a year and that you've got pork chops in your pockets and that's the basketball." Of course, he's Canadian

by CanadaBucks on Jun 19, 2011 2:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sorry I didn't mean

That Love or Randolph would make me do the trade just that those are the only two players I might be interested in.

"He always plays like he's a pit bull that hasn't been fed in about a year and that you've got pork chops in your pockets and that's the basketball." Of course, he's Canadian

by CanadaBucks on Jun 19, 2011 2:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hehehe. Well, they're not giving up Love

But Flynn or W Johnson would sweeten the deal a bit…. but it’s all about D Williams

I wouldn’t even suggest trading a player like AB unless I thought DW is an all-star type talent [plus a pick and player]. He’s also a high character guy that would be a good face for the franchise

by victor s on Jun 19, 2011 7:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

It wasn't a comment of yours, it was a rumor cycling around Hoopshype a few days ago

http://hoopshype.com/rumors.htm

Great place to see it before it happens, a lot of tweets from scouts and the like.

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=3rydxzx

If this trade still seems to favor Minny, that’s because it probably does. Andrew Bogut is irreplaceable. The only reason I’d trade him was if I thought he was truly damaged beyond repair.

by MadTown Hoops on Jun 19, 2011 5:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

I respectfully disagree about Bogut being irreplaceable.....

Don’t get me wrong, I love Bogues….

But unless he comes back to the level he was before the injury AND has added a jump shot, he’s replaceable IMO

D Williams, #20 and W Johnson would do it for me…. ducking ; )

by victor s on Jun 19, 2011 7:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wes Johnson

No thanks….39% shooting and that’s all he does.

"He always plays like he's a pit bull that hasn't been fed in about a year and that you've got pork chops in your pockets and that's the basketball." Of course, he's Canadian

by CanadaBucks on Jun 19, 2011 7:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think Bogut is a top-5 NBA defender, so he's pretty close to irreplaceable in my mind too.

Nobody would ever trade a top 5 offensive player in the league, and I would apply the same logic to defensive talent as well.

"Don't worry, I've got an idea. An idea so smart my head would explode if I even began to know what I was talking about..."

by Steve von Horn on Jun 19, 2011 7:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hmmmm.... that's a really good point, SVH.

Damnit! ; )

I get the feeling I’m alone on this one…

by victor s on Jun 19, 2011 7:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well I know not everyone thinks he's a top-5 defender, and the voters haven't done anything to help improve his reputation...

so I might be just as alone in such high praise of his defense, but I think we had enough articles of outrage when he got snubbed in voting that I think Frank, Dan, Alex, Mitchell, and Jacob are at least leaning with me on this one.

"Don't worry, I've got an idea. An idea so smart my head would explode if I even began to know what I was talking about..."

by Steve von Horn on Jun 19, 2011 7:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

I grudingly agree w/ you about AB being a top 5 D-player

And maybe instead of a player from MN – ask for a future first. Yeah, that sounds better.

D Williams, # 20 and a future first – plus whatever player they have to throw in to make the salaries work.

by victor s on Jun 19, 2011 8:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

We got lots of shooters that can hit 39%

"He always plays like he's a pit bull that hasn't been fed in about a year and that you've got pork chops in your pockets and that's the basketball." Of course, he's Canadian

by CanadaBucks on Jun 19, 2011 7:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

He's gotta be the oldest top-5 pick in at least the last 20 years, right?

"Don't worry, I've got an idea. An idea so smart my head would explode if I even began to know what I was talking about..."

by Steve von Horn on Jun 19, 2011 7:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

Think so

Funny thing is he’s like only 2 or 3 years younger than Bogut.

"He always plays like he's a pit bull that hasn't been fed in about a year and that you've got pork chops in your pockets and that's the basketball." Of course, he's Canadian

by CanadaBucks on Jun 19, 2011 7:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

Exactly...it's nuts to think he went top 5 without DOMINATING college ball

Which is what I would have demanded to overcome his age

"Don't worry, I've got an idea. An idea so smart my head would explode if I even began to know what I was talking about..."

by Steve von Horn on Jun 19, 2011 7:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

David Kahn the gift that keeps giving

That," says LeBron, "is for everyone that watches me play. They witness something special. You're all a witness.

by ILIKEBJ'S on Jun 19, 2011 9:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I forgot his age.

Still gotta think he’ll get his % up

by victor s on Jun 19, 2011 8:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

Don't forget that JH let Sessions, Charlie V, and R Jefferson walk, rather than over-paying them..

So, yeah, I still trust the guy.

Yes, he looks to have made a bad signing w/ Salmons, but Gooden played well when healthy [and it’s not like he’s had an injury history]

Maggette is a tough call because of the way Skiles handled him – but he still got a 20ppg scorer for less than 5mil per when you factor in Gadz and C Bell….

So…. in the big picture, JH sill gets a thumbs up IMO.

by victor s on Jun 18, 2011 5:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hammond's biggest mistake...

I’d say it was not dumping Redd for expirings/picks in 2008. Would have been a chance to hit the reset button, but instead they doubled down with RJ, which wasn’t a bad trade in itself but kept the Bucks in that mid-30 win purgatory another year.

He definitely overpaid for Gooden/Salmons, but coming off 46 wins there was obvious pressure not to take a step back. Individually none of the deals were hugely problematic—not like giving Redd $90 million—but in the aggregate it leaves the Bucks with less flexibility than they’d obviously like. Still, Redd’s deal coming off the books leaves them in rather reasonable shape from a cap perspective. To me the big problem isn’t the cap situation so much as Jennings not having taken a major leap last year + Bogut not being physically capable of doing what he did in 09/10. If Bogut had been 100% and Jennings puts up 18-20 pts/8 assists on better efficiency then everybody’s happy. But it’s up in the air if either of those things can be relied on going forward, and when that’s in doubt then all the veteran pieces look a lot worse.

by Frank Madden on Jun 18, 2011 5:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think this coming season will be the benchmark

If the 11/12 sesaon isn’t lost to the lockout, I think it will be a year on a mildly-hot seat for both Hammond and Skiles. If the Bucks don’t make the playoffs, I don’t see Skiles keeping his job, and Hammond might be at risk too. But I’m willing to cut both a large amount of slack for last season, because everything that could have gone wrong did go wrong. I really wish Skiles would figure out some way to incorporate Maggette into the rotation with some consistency, but I don’t know the whole story behind that situation.

by Dan Sinclair on Jun 18, 2011 5:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think this is Boguts make or break season

If we don’t win this upcoming season, the Bucks will trade Bogut.

by FearTheDeer on Jun 18, 2011 10:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

The thing I like about Hammond is that he seems willing to admit his mistakes and move on to make the best of the situation.

From RJ to Joe Alexander and everything in between, Hammond hasn’t had an ego about his own moves or picks…the guys just haven’t quite been good enough. But that’s one of the issues of being in NBA hell, it’s hard to get better.

"Don't worry, I've got an idea. An idea so smart my head would explode if I even began to know what I was talking about..."

by Steve von Horn on Jun 18, 2011 6:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Overall I still think we are in a better position since Hammond took over

he has made some wrong moves, but you could see the reasoning behind the moves, and he has made some decisions that led to the playoff run the season prior, and his coaching hire Skiles at least has the Bucks playing style known around the league as a strong defensive unit, prior to that we were kinda in limbo in terms of direction and style……but as Dan said this season will be the one that counts the goodwill from the playoff run, the injury curse and lack of chemistry wont cut it

That," says LeBron, "is for everyone that watches me play. They witness something special. You're all a witness.

by ILIKEBJ'S on Jun 18, 2011 9:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

If I recall

until Redd got hurt the Bucks were doing fairly well with Redd and RJ.

by FearTheDeer on Jun 18, 2011 10:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

I just feel like between last year's signings, the second rounders of '10 and the expirings, Hammond has lost a lot of value

While at the same time his comments have sounded more and more delusional. Nobody will be happy with last year’s team part two. It’s clear that a few sweeping changes are necessary, but if that involves moving Bogut for scraps, I will lose faith. It seems like that little trophy got to his head.

by MadTown Hoops on Jun 19, 2011 11:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

I don't blame people for losing faith in Hammond, but I'm not there

It’s definitely a glass half-full/empty type thing right now. Nothing went right for Bucks last year in terms of injuries, lack of chemistry, etc., and that really magnified the downside of the money spent last summer. Is Hammond as sold on the current roster as he’s let on? I don’t know if that’s true, but it really doesn’t serve his interest to say last summer was a mistake and they need to dump everyone. I think he’s willing to move guys even if he’s playing it coy publicly.

Honestly I think we overrated how good they were a year ago and are underrating them this year, but that’s how it goes. The 46-win team had everything go right, the 35-win team had everything go wrong. Bottom line: there’s no clear path to 55 wins and legit contention right now, but they should be competitive and make the playoffs.

by Frank Madden on Jun 19, 2011 11:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

I feel things could be worse

Look at Orlando……Turk, Arenas, Howard asking for a re-tool with not much salary leeway. I’ll give Hammond credit for being bold and having the “all-in” mentality last summer. As Frank said, the team is probably midway between what we saw in 09/10 and 10/11, so 42ish wins next year? I’d probably be cool with that.

"He always plays like he's a pit bull that hasn't been fed in about a year and that you've got pork chops in your pockets and that's the basketball." Of course, he's Canadian

by CanadaBucks on Jun 19, 2011 11:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think this team could win or lose fifty games next year, so I suppose that's why my opinion vacillates wildly

It’s true Hammond has been humble about his mistakes, but they really have added up over the years. Joe Alexander, the RJ experiment, re-signing Salmons and going all in on Maggette and Gooden, Tiny Gallon, Darington Hobson (how did they not know his hips were messed up from the physical?), and not getting anything for Redd.

by MadTown Hoops on Jun 19, 2011 12:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ok I'll play Hammond's PR guy here

1. Alexander-ya bad pick absolutely should not have picked him
RJ-Good deal to get rid of Yi and Simmons, then dumped the last year of RJ’s deal, don’t see the problem with this move
Re-signing Salmons-Lets wait another year, Salmons was getting better at the end of the season
Maggette/Gooden-Same as above, Gooden was hurt and I’m curious to see if Corey has a bigger impact this year
Gallon/Hobson-Other than Landry Fields who in the 2nd round did anything? Can’t answer about Hobson’s hip though. Who could you have taken that would have had an impact
Redd-Pretty sure the brass didn’t want to take on 17m more salary beyond this past year so I don’t know what you could have done. If they were more in contention at deadline might they have? Expiring deals not very sought after last year anyway, the Raptors get Alexis Ajinca for Peja’s expiring.

"He always plays like he's a pit bull that hasn't been fed in about a year and that you've got pork chops in your pockets and that's the basketball." Of course, he's Canadian

by CanadaBucks on Jun 19, 2011 1:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Would it be worth going after one of the Bulls picks?

"He always plays like he's a pit bull that hasn't been fed in about a year and that you've got pork chops in your pockets and that's the basketball." Of course, he's Canadian

by CanadaBucks on Jun 18, 2011 7:09 PM CDT reply actions  

Tank next year?

http://ca.sports.yahoo.com/highschool/blog/prep_rally/post/Top-junior-hoops-prospect-may-have-longest-wings?urn=highschool-wp2931

"He always plays like he's a pit bull that hasn't been fed in about a year and that you've got pork chops in your pockets and that's the basketball." Of course, he's Canadian

by CanadaBucks on Jun 19, 2011 9:20 AM CDT reply actions  

Time to get excited
In fact, according to that aforementioned database, only two players have ever been within an inch of Anya’s prodigious spread: 2008 prospect John Riek, measuring at 7-feet-8.75 and 2006 draftee Saer Sene, who is listed at 7-feet-8.5.

If he compares favorably to those guys, who can stop him?

I never use a big word when a diminutive word would suffice.

by TheJay on Jun 19, 2011 11:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

In talent?

He would need a whopping 7 points to surpass their combined NBA totals

"He always plays like he's a pit bull that hasn't been fed in about a year and that you've got pork chops in your pockets and that's the basketball." Of course, he's Canadian

by CanadaBucks on Jun 19, 2011 11:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

"The German Ship"

Based on past history, between other things, I am (almost) convinced the Bucks won’t draft Bismark with their 10th pick, even if he is still available.

My opinion is not based on his skills, or the Euro-workout flunk. They are based on the many other holes the team has. It’s also based on my own perception of how they like to construct their team. That perception is neither pretty, nor positive… For that reason, I will keep it to myself for now.

Of course, Frank, I can hope, and hope they will still draft “The German Ship” and prove me wrong. Very wrong… [smile]

Nice article.

"Players earn their minutes." Yeah, right...

by Power(less) Forward on Jun 19, 2011 11:46 AM CDT reply actions  

Have to agree with you

But I don’t think they’ll have the option anyway, someone is going to drink that Congolese lemonade.

"He always plays like he's a pit bull that hasn't been fed in about a year and that you've got pork chops in your pockets and that's the basketball." Of course, he's Canadian

by CanadaBucks on Jun 19, 2011 3:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wow DX Biyombo comparisons

http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Bismack-Biyombo-5902/ Pretty high worst case.

"He always plays like he's a pit bull that hasn't been fed in about a year and that you've got pork chops in your pockets and that's the basketball." Of course, he's Canadian

by CanadaBucks on Jun 19, 2011 3:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

6'9 version of Dwight Howard....someone is taking the piss surely?

if your taking a swing at the German Ship in the late first round fair play, worth a look definitely. In the top 10? that has future warning parable for draft day tomfoolery written all over it

That," says LeBron, "is for everyone that watches me play. They witness something special. You're all a witness.

by ILIKEBJ'S on Jun 19, 2011 4:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

Good use of tomfoolery.

In fact, I just live the way that last sentence reads.

"Don't worry, I've got an idea. An idea so smart my head would explode if I even began to know what I was talking about..."

by Steve von Horn on Jun 19, 2011 4:41 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

"Congolese lemonade"

Nice touch!

"Players earn their minutes." Yeah, right...

by Power(less) Forward on Jun 20, 2011 10:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

SBN is reporting that the Bucks have talked to the Wolves about Bogut

And were apparently the ones who initiated the talks. maybe victor “leaked” the story. No word on what we would be getting other than #2 but it did say Minny would be getting #10.

"He always plays like he's a pit bull that hasn't been fed in about a year and that you've got pork chops in your pockets and that's the basketball." Of course, he's Canadian

by CanadaBucks on Jun 20, 2011 9:44 AM CDT reply actions  

Here's the link fwiw

http://www.sbnation.com/nba/2011/5/21/2182746/nba-draft-rumors-2011

"He always plays like he's a pit bull that hasn't been fed in about a year and that you've got pork chops in your pockets and that's the basketball." Of course, he's Canadian

by CanadaBucks on Jun 20, 2011 9:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

maybe a subtle poke in the ribs at Bogut to see if it lighst a fire? he can be frustratingly obtuse at times

but thats kinda the laidback aussie in him

That," says LeBron, "is for everyone that watches me play. They witness something special. You're all a witness.

by ILIKEBJ'S on Jun 20, 2011 1:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Bogut and/or...

… any other player can be traded by a team in need, like the Bucks…

… as long as the “Price is Right.”

"Players earn their minutes." Yeah, right...

by Power(less) Forward on Jun 20, 2011 10:41 AM CDT reply actions  

Was trying to think of something with Indiana and Hibbert

Like maybe Hibbert, George and the pacers first round pick. You would likely have to take back a year of James Posey though.

"He always plays like he's a pit bull that hasn't been fed in about a year and that you've got pork chops in your pockets and that's the basketball." Of course, he's Canadian

by CanadaBucks on Jun 20, 2011 11:34 AM CDT up reply actions  

Youth movement!

The way I remember hearing it, Indiana is going to stick with their youth movement.

Even though Hibbert and George would be great, I don’t see how/why Indiana would trade either.

Question – What Bucks player(s) and/or draft picks do you think it would require to get those two?

"Players earn their minutes." Yeah, right...

by Power(less) Forward on Jun 20, 2011 1:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

I was just saying

That’s an example of a trade i could see Milwaukee profiting by.

"He always plays like he's a pit bull that hasn't been fed in about a year and that you've got pork chops in your pockets and that's the basketball." Of course, he's Canadian

by CanadaBucks on Jun 20, 2011 1:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

In the sense that

I would want a centre back plus one other player that I think could be significant for us.

"He always plays like he's a pit bull that hasn't been fed in about a year and that you've got pork chops in your pockets and that's the basketball." Of course, he's Canadian

by CanadaBucks on Jun 20, 2011 2:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thanks for sharing.

I am much better at reacting/responding to trade rumors than I am at creating my own trade scenarios.

If Indiana would be willing to part with those two players, I am sure they would be asking for more than just a draft pick…

Agree?

"Players earn their minutes." Yeah, right...

by Power(less) Forward on Jun 20, 2011 2:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

I meant for Bogut

"He always plays like he's a pit bull that hasn't been fed in about a year and that you've got pork chops in your pockets and that's the basketball." Of course, he's Canadian

by CanadaBucks on Jun 20, 2011 2:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

But I would agree you're more likely

To get young stars from teams in the “win now” mode and indiana isn’t quite there yet.

"He always plays like he's a pit bull that hasn't been fed in about a year and that you've got pork chops in your pockets and that's the basketball." Of course, he's Canadian

by CanadaBucks on Jun 20, 2011 2:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

That sounds fair enough.

"Players earn their minutes." Yeah, right...

by Power(less) Forward on Jun 20, 2011 4:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sorry...

… I am not ready to do that, except by responding to other rumors.

For example, there was a rumor going on with Jennings to Toronto. A trade like that (rumor) would make sense to me.

The Bogut to MN rumor seems to have different variations. Depending on the variation, the price could be right.

"Players earn their minutes." Yeah, right...

by Power(less) Forward on Jun 20, 2011 1:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think that the wildcard that will define our draft is Kawhi Leonard

Draft day mentality can create some interesting scenarios. With the stock of Burks, Brooks and Thompson on the rise, I wonder if the selection of Kawhi Leonard will create a run on wing positions. Any of those three could inexplicably go to the Kings, Pistons, or Charlotte, teams who are known to take the guy they want in the face of popular opinion. Would the Bucks be ready to jump in on the point guard surprise if Walker fell or would the Bucks settle for a Morris or Singleton?

by MadTown Hoops on Jun 20, 2011 7:39 PM CDT reply actions  

Jordan hamilton maybe

But I’d be shocked if none of the 3 were there at 10, don’t think Kemba falls either.

"He always plays like he's a pit bull that hasn't been fed in about a year and that you've got pork chops in your pockets and that's the basketball." Of course, he's Canadian

by CanadaBucks on Jun 20, 2011 8:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

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