Mavericks 102, Bucks 76: Resistance Is Futile As Bucks Remain Winless On Road
Andrew Bogut has yet to hit his stride on the court this season, but the Bucks don't seem likely to hit theirs without him.
With Bogut a late scratch due to a concussion suffered late in Thursday's win over the Pistons, the Bucks offered little defensive resistance in Dallas, hanging with the defending champions for less than a quarter en route to their seventh road loss in as many tries. Not coincidentally: five of those losses have come without Bogut. Vince Carter set the tone by facing up and driving past Carlos Delfino for a monster flush on the opening possession, and he did it again a few trips later en route to a 14-point first half.
And one half was really all the Mavericks needed. The Bucks' starters played it close for most of the first quarter thanks to early hot shooting from Brandon Jennings (19 points, 7/12 fg, 3/4 threes, 4/4 ft, 4 rebs, 1 ast, 1 to) and Stephen Jackson, but wholesale changes with just over two minutes remaining in the first would mark the end of the Bucks' competitiveness. Jason Terry and Lamar Odom sparked a 10-3 run to end the quarter before Odom and Roddy Beaubois scored the first five of the second to swell a 22-20 Maverick advantage into a more crooked 37-23 advantage.
And while the Bucks may have come back from a 20-point deficit in Dallas a year ago, they wouldn't get any closer than nine this time around. Dallas scored 26 in the paint and shot 58% overall in the first half, including 6/12 from deep, and they didn't cool much in the second, finishing at 52% for the night. Dirk Nowitzki cracked the 23,000 point mark in the first half but was barely needed in the end, with his 11 points on seven shots coming in just 22 minutes.
No Maverick played more than Terry's 25 minutes or scored more than his 17 points, but with a bench pouring in 55 points and a defense that locked the Bucks down for the final three quarters it didn't matter. The Mavs showed hard on the Bucks' P&R action and rotated with precision all night, all while showing little concern for the Bucks' interior (in)abilities. Jennings and Shaun Livingston (15 pts, 6/8 fg, 1 ast, 0 to) were the only Bucks to find any consistent seams in the Maverick defense, though it spoke volumes of the Bucks' toothless attack that their point guards scored 34 points (on just 20 shots) but managed just two assists combined.
Three Bucks
Shaun Livingston. Livingston couldn't miss from mid-range, saving a series of ugly possessions with late-in-the-clock pull-ups from his favored 10-15 range.
Brandon Jennings. Jennings buried a pair of triples to keep the game close in the early going, but another tidy shooting night wasn't nearly enough, especially with Beaubois (7/12 fg, 15 pts) and Delonte West (3/5 fg, 8 pts, 4 ast) doing plenty of damage themselves.
Jon Brockman. Brockman's insertion late in the second quarter felt like a white flag, but what his first significant minutes of the season lacked in meaning they made up for in...well, rebounds. In 19 minutes, Brockman grabbed half of the Bucks' offensive rebounds (6) and a quarter of their total boards (9). Hey, at least one guy on the team still remembers how to clean the glass.
Three Numbers
52%. The Bucks allowed better than 50% shooting for the third time in four games.
55. Dallas' bench scored 55 points on 43 shots.
+15. The Bucks turned it over only once more than the Mavs (19-18), but surrendered 15 more points off turnover (33-18).
Three One Good
Still perfect at home! Even the glass half-full types will have a hard time finding a silver lining in this one. Aside from the basic disappointment of seeing Skiles' crew lose in lopsided fashion, the youngsters provided little solace and Bogut's status for Monday's game remains unclear.
Three Bad
Bogut's brain. Bogut knocked his head on the court after Ben Gordon crashed into him on Thursday, but continued to play the final few minutes against Detroit despite looking visibly shaken by the blow. In previous seasons he might have still played in Dallas, but the NBA's new concussion guidelines required that he first pass an assessment specifically designed to safeguard players against the dangers of playing with head injuries. Unfortunately he could not pass the test, but there should also be no questioning his absence. Given Bogut's migraine history and the Bucks' concussion problems a year ago, the last thing the Bucks should be doing is endangering Bogut's livelihood.
The defense rests. Another worrying effort from the Bucks' defense, which has looked increasingly pedestrian in the absence of both Andrew Bogut and Luc Mbah a Moute. At times it didn't seem like Dallas could miss, but the Bucks didn't make it particularly difficult on them either.
The kids are not alright. Blowouts normally provide a good opportunity to give young players some burn, but there was precious little consolation in the performances of Jon Leuer (12 minutes, 1/3 fg), Tobias Harris (1/6 fg), Larry Sanders (0/2, 6 fouls) and Darington Hobson (0/8 fg, scoreless).
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you wrapped it
time to bury it.
by unklchuk on Jan 14, 2012 3:09 AM CST via Android app reply actions
4-0 and 0-7. I know some teams struggle on the road, but this dichotomy is taking it to the logical extreme. Something has to give, right? Tankers aside, we’d all be ecstatic if the Bucks went .500 for the season. The silver lining is that many of the games we’ve lost on the road have featured substantial Bucks leads. Only two games have been true blowouts.
The justifier in me wants to say, “Hey, Bogut was out, it will be different when he’s healthy,” but in truth it’s getting to the point that I can’t remember a forty game stretch in which he was healthy. 2007 seems so long ago. I still think we should stick with Bogues, he’s an incredible defensive force when he does play, but this backup center issue has to be addressed. When your best centers (I’m being generous) are Drew Gooden, Larry Sanders and Jon Brockman, and not even necessarily in that order, you have to do something about it. When Andrew goes down, let’s face it he will go down, that is our reality. It does not matter if it’s that dude from Portland or a Millsap-esque hybrid, we just need someone to hold it down low.
They are everywhere
Former Bucks that is. After checking Mavs Moneyball last night and posting on the game preview here, I went to bed feeling secure that the Bucks would lose and that no true former Bucks would taunt me in the box score in the morning. Then the Mavs go ahead and activate Yi. I hate billionaires like Cuban:-)
by Southern Marxist on Jan 14, 2012 7:28 AM CST reply actions
How much swagger?
…should my optimism lose to the reported fact that we face the 3rd most difficult remaining schedule in the league? Is it a small difference separating us from average difficulty? Or a big difference?
I questioned this last night but didn't see a response but....
Is it based on last years record or this years? Either way it’s a mostly meaningless stat as last years teams are totally different, and this year’s record are too small a sample. Just chat to talk up air time IMO.
"He always plays like he's a pit bull that hasn't been fed in about a year and that you've got pork chops in your pockets and that's the basketball." Of course, he's Canadian
by CanadaBucks on Jan 14, 2012 11:55 AM CST up reply actions
I think it was based on this season’s winning %
by Dan Sinclair on Jan 14, 2012 11:59 AM CST up reply actions
Which is too small a sample to really consider
"He always plays like he's a pit bull that hasn't been fed in about a year and that you've got pork chops in your pockets and that's the basketball." Of course, he's Canadian
by CanadaBucks on Jan 14, 2012 12:01 PM CST up reply actions
Bogut is like a friend's troubled marriage
They have difficulty making it work. But they try. They say and believe that things have been worked out. But the marriage gives off hints repeatedly that it’s still struggling. Not so major that the result is predictable. But enough that your gut is never comfortable.
Bogut has missed games this perhaps-to-be-remembered-as-blighted season because of his mysterious family. And because he banged his head. Those seem unrelated and not additive. So why am I doubting that he will participate like most normal players in this season?
Back when the world was new, the cartoon Peanuts (or was it just maybe Pogo?) had a character that always stood under a dark, rainy, stormy cloud. Took it with him everywhere. I don’t think that character was called “Bogut” but maybe…
The strip was Li'l Abner
From the cartoon strtip Li’l Abner
Wikipedia: "Joe Btfsplk: The world’s worst jinx, Joe Btfsplk had a perpetually dark rain cloud over his head. Instantaneous bad luck befell anyone unfortunate enough to be in his vicinity. Though well-meaning and friendly, his reputation inevitably precedes him — so Joe is a very lonely little man. He has an apparently unpronounceable name, but creator Al Capp “pronounced” Btfsplk by simply blowing a “raspberry,” or Bronx cheer.12 Joe’s personal storm cloud became one of the most iconic images in the strip."


by unklchuk on Jan 14, 2012 10:09 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
You need to start posting right away, Chuk
Your comments are getting better and better. You´re like the New Orleans Chris Paul of Brewhoops comments: you should be immediatly promoted to post format and play along with ¨ Steve van Griffin ¨and all this blog big guys. Seriously.
I predict
…there may not be a lot of comments today. Today, being a Bucks fan, and practicing your fandom, is like being someone who has long been very fond of ham and pork chops after you and everyone in this circle have just sat through a highly-graphic documentary on how corporate agribusiness raises and treats those sad pigs…
You (and I) are not likely to change your/our consumption. But for the time being, it’s a topic best avoided.
I'm a bacon guy, myself.
A samurai sword collection. If you can do it. I don’t know if you’re allowed.
by TwoShoesMcGooze on Jan 14, 2012 9:00 AM CST up reply actions
Why is it?
It seems that every year we have at least one player who is being paid big bucks and all we can hope for is the time he is no longer on the Bucks. Anyone who had hopes that Gooden would help this team, please go to your room for a timeout. Other than hitting an occasional mid-range jumper when wide open, I am having a hard time remembering anything he has contributed other than PF’s in the box score. Last night was no different.
Let the Rooks play and learn rather than waste time with him on the floor.
The Bucks major mistake w/ Gooden was over-estimating what they were as a team
When they signed him, they were coming off a 46 win season w/ a promising young PG and a all-NBA C…
They figured all they needed to compete in the East was a scorer [salmons] and PF that could score a lil bit and rebound [gooden]
Problem is… BJ is still “developing” and Bogut can’t stay on the court [and when he is, he’s more ben wallace than david robinson]
so, yeah, Gooden has been a bit of a flop – but I blame it more on the team than him. He’s actually played just like he always has and stats are right on par w/ his career stats.
Because Steve told me advanced stats are my best friend
Go here and check out Drew’s, you’ll find Gooden has been well off in a lot of categories. He isn’t all to blame for the Bucks failures of late but in hindsight, it wasn’t a good signing and his skills are on the decline.
http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/g/goodedr01.html
"He always plays like he's a pit bull that hasn't been fed in about a year and that you've got pork chops in your pockets and that's the basketball." Of course, he's Canadian
by CanadaBucks on Jan 14, 2012 12:15 PM CST up reply actions
BJs shooting % has gotten much better [though it couldn't have gotten much worse]
But how does a starting NBA PG get ONE assist in 25 min???
It boggles my mind – and you’re probably not gonna win a lot of games w/ your PG getting ONE assist.
I’m fully aware that he had a good shooting night, blah, blah, blah….
As much as it pains me to see/admit, I see this heading for NBA hell. Again.
I have a bridge for sale too
If you believe that one
by Dreadrastaman on Jan 14, 2012 9:51 AM CST up reply actions
I actually didn't think Brandon's distribution was particularly poor last night
Felt like the Mavs defended the P&R exceptionally well, and even when Brandon did find the screener (usually Drew or Ersan) they closed out very well and forced another pass.
I’d love it if Brandon could more consistently create easy buckets for teammates, but he is what he is. Best case scenario he’s more of Billups-type when it comes to assists: drive/kick, nothing flashy, let your shooters do their thing.
by Frank Madden on Jan 14, 2012 12:29 PM CST up reply actions
It's hard to get assists when other than the other PG
The team was 16-58. Plus I think the Bucks are going with nore of a facilitator by committee this year to allow BJ more opportunities for spot-ups. Seems to be helping his % and as long as the team is sharing the ball, does it matter who gets the dimes? Looks like you’re off the hook for the Fan Post though, based on apg anyway
"He always plays like he's a pit bull that hasn't been fed in about a year and that you've got pork chops in your pockets and that's the basketball." Of course, he's Canadian
by CanadaBucks on Jan 14, 2012 11:58 AM CST up reply actions
I guess I'd be a bit easier on the kid if he and the team just admitted he's a "scoring" PG
But that crap last yr about avg 10 apg really irked me.
I might have to change my comparison of him from TJ Ford v.2 to a glorified Mo Williams….
"I might have to change my comparison of him from TJ Ford v.2 to a glorified Mo Williams…."
I cringe, but don’t deny the possibility. Though I don’t think Mo is smart, and I do think Jennings is. In his fashion.
Brandon def has more defensive potential than Mo
His defense isn’t as consistent as I’d like it to be, but he works hard and generally keeps teams honest.
Supporting cast helps too.
by Frank Madden on Jan 14, 2012 12:22 PM CST up reply actions
I make an exception for Mo
Despite the stereotypes that have lodged in my head since early youth, I don’t think not being smart comes anywhere close to defining a person (NOT saying you or anyone else does). But when Not Smart is combined with Willful Egotism, then the hounds of my criticism are loosed.
Well said, chuk
Let’s face it – most pro athletes are not the sharpest knives in the drawer…
But when you throw in a bit of narcissism, it gets tough to pull for them.
side bar – I once heard that Danny Granger was offered an ACADEMIC scholarship to Harvard…. Don’t know if it’s true – but pretty cool if it is.
Why not start(or play more) Brockman if we're having trouble on the glass
Seriously it’s his one skill and he does it well.
"He always plays like he's a pit bull that hasn't been fed in about a year and that you've got pork chops in your pockets and that's the basketball." Of course, he's Canadian
really? The other team doesn't even guard him
so you are in affect playing 4 on 5 on the offensive end.
I'm probably not willing to go that far...not yet.
Brockman wasn’t the same monster on the boards last year that he was as a rookie, so I’m not sure how well it would work overall given his other limitations. But I do prefer the idea of him at PF to center. Among the other bigs, he probably would work better next to Gooden since we know Drew is going to take enough shots for both of them and Brock can crash the offensive glass while Drew hucks jumpers.
by Frank Madden on Jan 14, 2012 12:31 PM CST up reply actions
Just sayin
We got enough starters who are willing to shoot, need some to do the little things too. I don’t think 10-15 mpg is too much to expect when Luc is out. When Luc comes back inactiveate Brockman but think we need his toughness now.
"He always plays like he's a pit bull that hasn't been fed in about a year and that you've got pork chops in your pockets and that's the basketball." Of course, he's Canadian
a short big with kangaroo arms?
Really? I’d love to have a physical big playing for the Bucks. Athletic, tough. But personally, I’ve stopped thinking about Brockman as a PT option for us.
Care to see a human demonstration of the randomness of all existence? Feed Brockman the ball underneath and watch him try to figure out what to do with it. He’s a bit like Mr. Everyman whose gift assignment (for some TV show) has been to be accepted (for entertainment purposes) on a NBA roster.
Hope I’m flat-out wrong about him. His spirit is NBA level. Maybe I’m underestimating the rest of him.
Brandon's shooting splits
FWIW:
.443/.357/.811 and 53.6% true shooting. I’d be absolutely thrilled if he maintained those numbers for the remainder of the season.
No clue
Nothing would surprise me after the Delfino situation last year…could play on Monday or could be out 30 games.
by Frank Madden on Jan 14, 2012 12:35 PM CST up reply actions
Why is it that in the NFL guys get lit up with a concussion and they come back next week
but if you play in the NBA or MLB most of those guys are out for months..
It is weird.
There obviously aren’t nearly as many concussions in the NBA, and the ones I’ve seen haven’t generally been as violent as many of the hits you seen in the NFL. Curious if the NFL’s concussion policy is less stringent or what…also wonder how many guys suffer mild concussions that aren’t even noticed.
From what I understand, the effects of concussions also worsen with each one, which makes it especially strange that NFL players will get multiple concussions and seem to keep coming back with minimal down time.
by Frank Madden on Jan 14, 2012 12:44 PM CST up reply actions
i've been reading
that the NFL is now much more strict on concussions. Not just the NBA.
Lawsuits from retired players
Tends to make that happen. Read up on Eric Lindros and his concussion problems in the NHL.
"He always plays like he's a pit bull that hasn't been fed in about a year and that you've got pork chops in your pockets and that's the basketball." Of course, he's Canadian
Trade idea: Bogut for Horford
Being talked on RealGM. Bogut for Horford and a pick. They also think Jackson has played well enough to be convertible to a pick or younger player from a contender. Don’t recall if they have a scheme to also move Gooden. They think our pick could well be top 5.
That’s a rebuild I might support. It sacrifices this season but not for a better time far and uncertain in the future. Horford and a Top Five would make us pretty good next season. Cap space and additions would help too.
While I think Kohl & Co. are stuck in their own mud and wouldn’t consider this (unless they have behind-the-scenes headaches) I do like the idea of OK-now-and-trimmed-down-for-the-future.
I'm a huge Al Horford fan
I’d do that deal.
I kinda doubt Atlanta would deal him just because he’s hurt, but there is certainly some appeal to the idea of pairing Smith at PF with a “real” center like Bogut. FWIW, I think Al’s fine as a center—he’s strong as an ox as a post defender and centers can’t keep up with him in P&R.
by Frank Madden on Jan 14, 2012 12:50 PM CST up reply actions
I may have the Horford & pick wrong
Maybe it’s straight up, or we add something. But Atlanta is said to be definitely Win Now. Bogut restores that, and extends into the future too.
the hawks are a team that surely needs a roster shakeup, they aren't winning anything
with that group except a bunch of regular season games.
Problem is that Horford is the one guy you'd actually want to keep
I’m sure they’d deal Smith for the right piece…too bad I don’t want Josh Smith :)
by Frank Madden on Jan 14, 2012 12:53 PM CST up reply actions
Horford is the only attraction for us
RealGM thinks Bogut is of interest to the Hawks. And would fit well.
That trade proposal is intriguing
Tanking w/o tanking so to speak.
"He always plays like he's a pit bull that hasn't been fed in about a year and that you've got pork chops in your pockets and that's the basketball." Of course, he's Canadian
If it's true that this deal is on the table for the Bucks(If RealGM says so, is it gospel?)
If it just came down to an “are we improving our team” decision, they Bucks would be nuts for turning this down. I can see there might be other things involved, but this would be a no-brainer IMO.
"He always plays like he's a pit bull that hasn't been fed in about a year and that you've got pork chops in your pockets and that's the basketball." Of course, he's Canadian
Did I mislead??
Meant to say that RealGM had hatched the idea and were all over it. AFAIK, neither team has thought it.
Somewhere in the discussion thread I though it said
This was on the table, unless I was reading between the lines. I’ll check again.
"He always plays like he's a pit bull that hasn't been fed in about a year and that you've got pork chops in your pockets and that's the basketball." Of course, he's Canadian
Ok I thought I read it
But I’m at work and multi-tasking so that’s my excuse. I can see both sides to the Hawks doing this deal(yes and no)but again, if I am the Bucks and this deal is on the table……I would do it in a Moosonee minute.
"He always plays like he's a pit bull that hasn't been fed in about a year and that you've got pork chops in your pockets and that's the basketball." Of course, he's Canadian
i would too
it’s Now and it’s Future (immediate future)
hard for me to see Hammond doing it, and even harder to see Kohl
it’s in 2 threads at realgm.com
1. TI: Bogut for Horford ….
2. Stephen Jackson trade ….
Off I am to UU church
Hammonds would do it I think
Unless he thought/knew he waqs gone if the Bucks didn’t make the playoffs this season. Jackson I’d hold off on…..barring a Godfather offer.
"He always plays like he's a pit bull that hasn't been fed in about a year and that you've got pork chops in your pockets and that's the basketball." Of course, he's Canadian
That should read
Hammond would do it, Hammonds wouldn’t
"He always plays like he's a pit bull that hasn't been fed in about a year and that you've got pork chops in your pockets and that's the basketball." Of course, he's Canadian
I have no official ruling on this :)
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by Steve von Horn on Jan 14, 2012 9:23 PM CST via iPhone app up reply actions
Joe Btfsplk
No one has said a word. Guess he doesn’t speak to you young whippersnappers.
But do NOT say anything now. You can’t afford to cave in to my whining.
Treat me like an adult and I may act like one.
My dad read Lil' Abner
But I wasn’t a fan. I think Daisy ws the inspiration for Catherine Bach’s character in Dukes of Hazzard though(Not a fan of the show but she was something to look at)
"He always plays like he's a pit bull that hasn't been fed in about a year and that you've got pork chops in your pockets and that's the basketball." Of course, he's Canadian

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