Nuggets vs. Bucks Preview: Denver Starts Road Trip Hoping To Ruin Bucks' Perfect Home Record
by Frank Madden on Jan 17, 2012 7:30 AM CST
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| 2011/2012 NBA Season | ||
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| 4-8 (4-0 home) | 8-5 (2-3 road) |
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| January 17, 2012 | ||
| Bradley Center |
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| 7:00 PM CT |
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| Radio: 620 WTMJ TV: FSN Wisconsin |
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| Probable starters: | ||
| Brandon Jennings |
PG | Ty Lawson |
| Carlos Delfino |
SG | Aaron Afflalo |
| Stephen Jackson | SF | Danilo Gallinari |
| Jon Leuer | PF | Nene |
| Andrew Bogut |
C | Timofey Mozgov |
| (22nd) 100.2 - OFFENSE - 107.7 (6th) |
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| (17th) 103.5 - DEFENSE - 102.2 (13th) |
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| (13th) 92.2 - PACE - 96.6 (1st) | ||
On the Nuggets: Denver Stiffs / Roundball Mining Co. / Denver Post / Nugg Love
Two weeks after Danilo Gallinari, Al Harrington and Ty Lawson led a fourth quarter comeback against the Bucks in Denver, the Nuggets visit Milwaukee hoping to deal the Bucks their first home loss.
Nugget road trip. Having just concluded a four game homestand, Denver kicks off a five-game road trip tonight before heading to Philadelphia, Washington, New York and Sacramento. The Nuggets split their homestand 2-2 and are coming off a disappointing loss to the Jazz, allowing Paul Millsap to rack up 26/12 as Utah shot 52% from the field.
No escaping Nene. The Bucks couldn't take advantage of Nene's absence in Denver, though it may not have helped the Bucks as much as you might think. George Karl's decision to play sixth man of the year candidate Al Harrington at center down the stretch was critical to putting the game away, but that's less likely to happen with Nene available. The Brazilian hasn't had a great start to the season (by his standards), but he's still a beast around the rim (68%) and has been rebounding exceptionally well (17.6%). Given Nene's strength down low, I'm curious to see if Scott Skiles actually lets Jon Leuer defend him early or if he cross-matches him with Bogut. For what it's worth: Leuer's allowed a solid 0.75 points per play this season defending post-ups via Synergy, although the sample size is a miniscule eight plays. Bogut's allowed 0.59 PPP in 17 attempts.
Bogut the Shooter. Andrew Bogut was 0/24 on jumpers between 16 and 23 feet last season. This season? Try 7/13, including 3/6 in Philly. He's now 63/212 in his career. Otherwise, Bogut's 7/7 finishing night at the rim in Philly upped his effectiveness around the cup to a career-high 79% (26/33); he's generally been between 64% and 66% over his career. But Bogut continues to struggle from slightly further out, having hit just 9/44 shots between 3-9 feet after shooting at least 42% every season leading up to this one. Go figure.
The story's been slightly different for Jon Leuer, who came into the league pegged as a stretch four but has excelled mainly because of his work close to the hoop. Leuer entered Monday's game hitting a Larry Sanders-esque 29% on long twos (5/17) and didn't hit his first three until the closing seconds of the first half in Philadephia (1/3 overall). Thankfully he's been lights-out from 10-15 feet (69%) and virtually automatic around the hoop (71%). Not bad for a big white guy.
Fast paint. Denver leads the league in points in the paint (50.2 ppg) and attempted a season-high 45 shots at the rim in the teams' first meeting. Note to Bucks: you may want to rebound this time around. Not coincidentally, the Nuggets also lead the league in fastbreak scoring (22 ppg) and pace. Who doesn't like layups?
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Who doesn’t like layups?
The Bucks. The Bucks don’t like layups.
http://twitter.com/WhalesLarry ...but only if you want to see someone still trying to figure Twitter out.
by Mitchell Maurer on Jan 17, 2012 8:27 AM CST reply actions 1 recs
I now have a crush on Jennifer M
The Chai Book Lady. Discovered through that link.
Mostly because she is youthful. Jumpstarts, stops, rapid changes in direction. Rather like a jitterbug point guard. Thoughts that are thoughtful, but hardly lingered on. Life is too much a tree with hanging fruit to spend time in over contemplation.
I don’t know if personas like Jennifer have always been. Or if she is partially formed by the Internet, and today’s academia. I’ve come across others that share some traits. So my crush is not monogamous. Neither is it in the slightest possessive. I simply throw a friendly salute as Pippa passes.
There are a host of grounds
…on which it can be considered confusing. I’ll just try to address a couple of the pedestrian ones. Mitchell’s WhalesLarry link led to someone’s Twitter page (Mitchell’s, I think). One of the twits (OK, tweets) was from a Jennifer M. I clicked, and that led to one of her pages. I clicked and that led to her blog article on her selection of the best books of last year. I read the article (haven’t read any of the books) and found her “charming.”
On a slow winter day, that was IMO clearly worth a crush. Shelf life: unknown.
“Pippa passes” is a reference to a Browning poem, which I am not expert in – but believe celebrates young woman as part of the grand splendor of the world.
If you have further questions, and decide to articulate them (a decision that could go either way) please write up.
A Thought from SAM SMITH:
Former beat reporter for the Chicago Bulls, and long time NBA Guru with this observation posted for your consideration:
“Most of the league has hit the 20 percent mark of the shortened 66-game season. That’s usually when teams get a feel for who they are and what they have, when teams begin to decide whether they can make a run for the playoffs, or maybe need to start building toward next season… "(continue reading at Bulls.com)
While it does seem abit early on my clock, observing what we have coming from your Milwaukee Bucks seemingly makes this decision an easy one? Doesn’t it?
One attempts to speculate what change, if any, a fresh “Prince” would have had on this club?. Dunleavy not going down, change anything? Zero road wins. Moments of team ball followed by quarters and halfs of ’shoot the rock if you got it" mentality. All seems to familiar to last years overt ovatures of doom. Trouble closing quarters, games. Hell, trouble closing plays.
Well, if Sam is correct I say again, this group has done a fine job of making this decision an easy one? Its January, a dozen games in, and some in fandom land speak only of this teams tomorrows?
Sad.
"shoot the rock if you got it"
Skiles wants them to take these shots, lol. As long as they are in the flow, let it go (hell, look at Delfino…) When the shots aren’t falling it looks bad, but most of these bad shots are open looks (outside of Jackson really)… I hate when the players who have these absurd misses settle on the open shot, because the defense usually concedes on purpose!
Who turned the light's out?? Because I don't see nobody!
This is getting sloppy...
I knew our pace would slow down, but it’s like someone poured cement on our team! Tonight’s game will be interesting, because the Nuggets take a lot of shots at the rim, and the way our defense has been playing I don’t know if we can stop it
Who turned the light's out?? Because I don't see nobody!
I do think that Luc and Dunleavy would've certainly helped this team....
But they are by no means “savior” type players.
The Bucks just seem to be a hodge-podge of marginal talent thrown together. They have a few nice pieces, along w/ a bunch of mediocre-at-best pieces… and no real chemistry or identity that I can see.
Getting a scorer seems to be paramount for this team – yet, I doubt it happens….
by victor s on Jan 17, 2012 10:07 AM CST reply actions 1 recs
+1
I’d think one of the things NBA GMs pride themselves on (in contrast to fans) is not over-reacting. I’m sure they think over-reacting leads to big mistakes. A “rookie” behavior.
So… is the Bucks front office practicing No Over-Reactions? Or are they simply frozen like a Buck in the headlights of an oncoming truck?
yes... if BrewHoop were a representative democracy you would get my vote for most closely resembling my views on the Bucks..
by Superelkman on Jan 17, 2012 11:25 AM CST up reply actions
I'd like to think that the Bucks staff would realize that they have an offensively challenged team. Again.
Jax was/is supposed to be the man – but at this point in his career, I don’t think he can be counted on to put up 20+ppg consistently.
That’s why I’d love to see them get a young scoring SG/SF [Mayo, K Martin, M Thorton, etc..] – and I think Jax and the other pieces would compliment said scorer well…
true enough...
when you add someone at the top of the work pyramid, it tends to demote everyone beneath them closer to their point of competency.
Kind of a reversal of the Peter Principle: “In a hierarchy, every employee tends to rise to his own level of incompetence.”
I would also think the Bucks have the ammo to land a scorer...
Ersan – affordable, competent big off the bench w/ expiring deal
Gooden – well, some team must have a use for him
Beno/Livingston – not sure of the slary situation, but both are excellent options at back-up PG
Dunleavy – When healthy, he’s a versatile, effective role player at a bargain price
Basically, anyone except Bogut, Jax, BJ and Luc should be considered, IMO.
Even our first round pick – do we really need another late lottery/mid round pick?
I’d think some combo of this list would land a legit scorer…. No?
not so sure
fan forums tend to dump on the guys at the mid and bottom of the roster – except when they talk trade. then they turn the coin over and admire the shiny stuff. i suspect if Ersan had value in the league he’d be gone my now. the loooong contract for Gooden and his fish-out-of-water play dims his appeal. Maybe the 1st is the brightest item. But so far this season is pointing at a pretty high pick. too high to surrender.
plus, I have the notion that a legit scorer who doesn’t have big holes in his game or his character is the kind of player the NBA is going to over-value. be more like the Bucks to pick up some guy who can shoot (well, but not great) but can’t move much or play defense, or doesn’t think “team.” in that case, I’d probably be as conflicted about him as I am about so much of their roster.
Plus
If Steve is as right as he looks right now about Jackson not being a quality addition, then Hammond has made another low-yield trade. Not sure I’m comfortable with him giving up the pick for who knows what. (You’re right, I’m not comfortable with him using it either… except that at the end of the season there’s a somewhat greater likelihood of someone else being GM.)
Chuk you have to remember the jackson trade wasn't an expected yield trade
But a “Clean up Hammonds mess” trade that allowed us to jettison both Salmons and Maggette. Please don’t trade our first round pick it’s looking better each day.
"He always plays like he's a pit bull that hasn't been fed in about a year and that you've got pork chops in your pockets and that's the basketball." Of course, he's Canadian
1. Agree completely on the pick. Unless what we got was jaw-dropping. And I’m not sure I’d want Hammond to judge jaw-dropping.
2. I have a very very limited tolerance for “clean up mess” trades. I fear they’re habit-forming. Even if Jackson himself constitutes a mess, his contract goes away sooner than Salmons. That doesn’t help right now, but it’s a factor.
If Hammond(s) gets fired at the end of the season
What would his legacy be?
"He always plays like he's a pit bull that hasn't been fed in about a year and that you've got pork chops in your pockets and that's the basketball." Of course, he's Canadian
The Richard Jefferson trade was good
And I’m trying to think of another to no avail.
"He always plays like he's a pit bull that hasn't been fed in about a year and that you've got pork chops in your pockets and that's the basketball." Of course, he's Canadian
It's just my humble opinion that if the Bucks are serious about competing this yr, they need a proven scorer...
And even then, I don’t see them finishing more than a few games over .500.
I’m all for keeping the roster as is, with the hopes of a high pick in the lottery – the downside is, they’re at least 4 – 5 teams that will have more ping-pong balls than Milw, so “staying the course” is a gamble, as well…
And given the Bucks luck, I see them finishing with what would get them the 7th pick in the lotto – only to have the balls not bounce our way and end up with the 9th or 10th pick…. Yuck.
I don't think we have the firepower to get anybody special without giving up Bogut or Jennings
I hate to say it, but everybody else is spare parts as far as other teams who are rebuilding are concerned. More then likely the only way we’re going to get a scorer to take us somewhere is by sucking very badly and getting a top 5 pick. Or if Tobias becomes LeBron. Either way.
by Jacob Grinyer on Jan 17, 2012 6:15 PM CST up reply actions
Some of the guys might be deadline deals
But nothing to grab you a good player. I really don’t want to trade our pick.
"He always plays like he's a pit bull that hasn't been fed in about a year and that you've got pork chops in your pockets and that's the basketball." Of course, he's Canadian
Good points, chuk.
But if they deal their pick for a scorer sometime soon – it would be predicated on a run at the POs – giving them a mid-round first.
I gotta think there’s some team that can use Ersan and/or the other pieces i mentioned.
I love the idea of OJ Mayo – the Griz seem to be trying to give him away, and they need a backup PG, and could probably use depth up front. Ersan & Beno or SL for Mayo seems like a good deal to me…
OK, I’m done playing GM. For now ; )
Mayo = a longshot?
Haven’t followed him. But hasn’t he fallen off the table, value-wise? Lack of production? Attitude? Why?
If I was Bucks GM, I would be convinced that something needs to be done. Have no idea if Hammond thinks that.
Mayo for Ilyasova and beno would work monetarily I think
Trade machine is down but I think the salaries match, it would be a low risk deal for the bucks as OJ has a QO next year at 7m so if you weren’t happy with him…….BAM! like CDR Trade like that couldn’t hurt but again i wonder if Ilyasova has any value at all, and seeing as mayo is expiring, they moght not want Beno’s extra year.
"He always plays like he's a pit bull that hasn't been fed in about a year and that you've got pork chops in your pockets and that's the basketball." Of course, he's Canadian
It's a mystery to me why'd they let him go.... but they did give away Pau Gasol, so who knows...
They also just gave up on X Henry, which seems a lil pre-mature to me.
But if Mayo is indeed available, I’d hope JH would make a run at him, unless he knows something we don’t…
Nuggets fan here
Just curious about you guys opinion of G.K. as a coach?
Formerly KS and CS
by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Jan 17, 2012 2:09 PM CST reply actions
From the geezer perspective...
With the Bucks, I thought he was a terrific fit. For a while. Seemed good with players, good at evaluating them. Seemed smarter than the rest of our franchise. But our owner, Herb Kohl, seems to have trouble getting along with strong minded coaches. (Maybe the resist his meddling?) So the day came, as it had with Don Nelson, when Karl had to go.
He’s gone through quite a bit since then. Has he kept the best parts? And the fire? Is he complacent? I don’t know.
"BIG THREE" and a pain in the ass>>>
George Karl himself states he learned alot from those three guys on how to better relate and communicate with ‘star’ players. He singled out Ray Allen in particular, and took full blame for what turned out to be the “Curt Flood” of your Milwaukee Bucks.
Karl gave us the turn of the century love fest with a team that was both a joy to watch, and faired well together. That group, ending in 03 / 04 was the beginning of the end of what would then be a decade of musical chairs; both in terms of players, and suits directing this mess which still lingers without resolve from your current hosts Skiles / Hammonds.
Personally, I liked Karl. Still do. We got him younger….You got him all grown up
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I loved Karl
He was the last coach to win here, by the way.
Interested how the Love extension plays out(see link right side of page)
I am hoping he stays with the TWolves so I can have some sort of faith in the NBA becoming more competitive.
"He always plays like he's a pit bull that hasn't been fed in about a year and that you've got pork chops in your pockets and that's the basketball." Of course, he's Canadian
I'm a little surprised they didn't just max him out straight away
Four years and $60 million is a big chunk of change, but I feel like tacking on another year and $20 million to make it a true max deal (five years, $80 mil) makes sense given the player he’s become and the risks associated with losing him. Seems like he’s always been fairly non-committal about Minny, and not giving offering him a max deal straight away probably doesn’t win them any points. The upside for the Wolves is that he can’t become an unrestricted FA until 2013 anyway, so they still have time to re-sign him long term this summer without risking that he bolts.
by Frank Madden on Jan 17, 2012 5:24 PM CST up reply actions
Yes. It's only 1m more a season
Why not? The only risk with not-extending would be that he signs the 1 year QO and gets pissed at them. Love and Bogut together would be nice but we have nothing that Minny would want IMO.
"He always plays like he's a pit bull that hasn't been fed in about a year and that you've got pork chops in your pockets and that's the basketball." Of course, he's Canadian
Revenge on Denver?
Why didn’t you offer more so the Bucks wouldn’t match? Revenge for that?
"He always plays like he's a pit bull that hasn't been fed in about a year and that you've got pork chops in your pockets and that's the basketball." Of course, he's Canadian
Under the heading of "Please Do"
The 33-year old Jackson, who’s set to become a free agent after the 2012-2013 season, didn’t seem fazed by the lack of a contract extension offer from the Bucks early on this season. "It is what it is," Jackson said. "I’m going to go out here and try to what I can do and hopefully I can get an extension. If not I’ll get it from somewhere else." HoopsWorld
Milwaukee Bucks, Free Agency, Stephen Jackson
Courtesy of HoopsHype
"He always plays like he's a pit bull that hasn't been fed in about a year and that you've got pork chops in your pockets and that's the basketball." Of course, he's Canadian
That could mean many things
Please do what? :)
by Jacob Grinyer on Jan 17, 2012 6:44 PM CST up reply actions
I think they were going for...........please do....
get your contract extension from somewhere else
Get it from elsewhere
"He always plays like he's a pit bull that hasn't been fed in about a year and that you've got pork chops in your pockets and that's the basketball." Of course, he's Canadian
"It is what it is"...
TRANSLATION: Cr*ppy situation which is out of my hands.
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by keiththejourno on Jan 17, 2012 7:05 PM CST up reply actions
Something to distract you from the fear and trepidation of tonight's game...
The film ‘Bridesmaids’ features Milwaukee.
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Who's feeling lucky today?
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by the new Bradfather on Jan 17, 2012 7:04 PM CST reply actions
Luck is not needed when you have Michael Redd...
…oh right.
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by keiththejourno on Jan 17, 2012 7:05 PM CST up reply actions
I'd like to see the Bucks
score more than 70 points tonight, too much to ask?
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by the new Bradfather on Jan 17, 2012 7:07 PM CST reply actions
The Allstar game is overrated in my opinion.
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so is the Pro Bowl
I’m a huge NFL fan, but I never watch it. My fellow Broncos fans are all excited that Ryan Clady and Willis McGahee got voted to the Pro Bowl as alternates today, but I say I’m proud of them but I won’t watch, stupid exhibitions
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by the new Bradfather on Jan 17, 2012 7:09 PM CST up reply actions
I don't know anything about baseball.
Sorry.
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by keiththejourno on Jan 17, 2012 7:11 PM CST up reply actions
football?
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by the new Bradfather on Jan 17, 2012 7:12 PM CST up reply actions
AMERICAN football for the Commonwealth readers ;)
by Jacob Grinyer on Jan 17, 2012 7:16 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Not all commonwealth readers
"He always plays like he's a pit bull that hasn't been fed in about a year and that you've got pork chops in your pockets and that's the basketball." Of course, he's Canadian
Why...where are you from?
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by keiththejourno on Jan 17, 2012 7:20 PM CST up reply actions
Canada which is part of the Commonwealth
But we say football
"He always plays like he's a pit bull that hasn't been fed in about a year and that you've got pork chops in your pockets and that's the basketball." Of course, he's Canadian
Yes
Canadians have the CFL, the British Columbia Lions, the Montreal Alouettes, the Edmonton Eskimos, the Calgary Stampeders, the Winnipeg Blue Bombers, the Toronto Argonauts, the Hamilton Tiger-Cats, I think I got them all? No, the Saskatchewan Roughriders!
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by the new Bradfather on Jan 17, 2012 7:21 PM CST up reply actions
Nice shot Boges!
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by the new Bradfather on Jan 17, 2012 7:11 PM CST reply actions
BC looks distinctly non-packed out.
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Where's all the rowdy fans
who wave the flags of countries where Bucks players come from?
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by the new Bradfather on Jan 17, 2012 7:13 PM CST up reply actions
your thinking of the opening ceremony
to the Olympic games
No
there’s a section of the Bradley Center where you have fans waving the Aussie flag and the Cameroonian flag, etc.
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by the new Bradfather on Jan 17, 2012 7:16 PM CST up reply actions
haha, yeah I was merely highlighting the multicultural spread
of the bucks squad, with Bogut, Luc, Beno, Ersan, etc. I’m not sure if the planet S-Jax comes from has a flag though.
I've never seen the Captain Jack planet banner!
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by the new Bradfather on Jan 17, 2012 7:20 PM CST up reply actions
Jennings!
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by the new Bradfather on Jan 17, 2012 7:17 PM CST reply actions
Leuer!
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by the new Bradfather on Jan 17, 2012 7:22 PM CST reply actions
Leuer is a stud
I know that Bo Ryan really liked him
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by the new Bradfather on Jan 17, 2012 7:22 PM CST reply actions
Delfino the Plinko
but someone has to put a body on Nene
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by the new Bradfather on Jan 17, 2012 7:27 PM CST reply actions
So, not a single point scored for Denver by an American
gives the bucks a challenge as most culturally diverse team in the league!
it's true
they have a Brazilian, Italian, Russian and Spaniard!
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by the new Bradfather on Jan 17, 2012 7:30 PM CST up reply actions
again?
Still tommy, still.
"He always plays like he's a pit bull that hasn't been fed in about a year and that you've got pork chops in your pockets and that's the basketball." Of course, he's Canadian
Nice one Gooden!
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by the new Bradfather on Jan 17, 2012 7:34 PM CST reply actions
This game is messy. I blame this on you Stern.
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Vote labour?
"He always plays like he's a pit bull that hasn't been fed in about a year and that you've got pork chops in your pockets and that's the basketball." Of course, he's Canadian
how do you miss the bunnies, Gooden?
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by the new Bradfather on Jan 17, 2012 7:37 PM CST reply actions
Gooden and Ilyasova dunks aren't fun?
Yeah, you’re right. Such a limited athletic team.
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by keiththejourno on Jan 17, 2012 7:41 PM CST up reply actions
Those are fun
Not when the Nuggets do it though.
by Jacob Grinyer on Jan 17, 2012 7:42 PM CST up reply actions
Dyou know what else is fun?
The Nuggets of Denver.
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by keiththejourno on Jan 17, 2012 7:43 PM CST up reply actions
Recc'd for fast food reference.
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by keiththejourno on Jan 17, 2012 7:46 PM CST up reply actions
Paul Westhead's Nuggets averaged
119.9 in 1990-91
"He always plays like he's a pit bull that hasn't been fed in about a year and that you've got pork chops in your pockets and that's the basketball." Of course, he's Canadian
that they did
I remember that Nuggets-Pistons game that ended 186-184 back in the day
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by the new Bradfather on Jan 17, 2012 7:42 PM CST up reply actions
Ilyasova!
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by the new Bradfather on Jan 17, 2012 7:38 PM CST reply actions
Rec´d!
He could try some shots dressed as Frankenstein or something
by palomba on Jan 17, 2012 7:41 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Ill rec the rec
"He always plays like he's a pit bull that hasn't been fed in about a year and that you've got pork chops in your pockets and that's the basketball." Of course, he's Canadian
I think this Tobias Harris has a solid feel for the game
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by the new Bradfather on Jan 17, 2012 7:42 PM CST reply actions
Tobias has good instincts under the hoop
And Beno looks drunk
Gooden is bringing it today
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by the new Bradfather on Jan 17, 2012 7:45 PM CST reply actions
Denver get out and run as soon as the shot is taken by the Bucks, instantly forcing the defence back and starting their attack.
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Milwaukee's hanging around, could be worse...
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by the new Bradfather on Jan 17, 2012 7:46 PM CST reply actions
Do the Bucks have the lowest jersey numbers in the league?
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Sometimes you wonder if
it represents BB IQ, for gooden it does.
"He always plays like he's a pit bull that hasn't been fed in about a year and that you've got pork chops in your pockets and that's the basketball." Of course, he's Canadian
that was some good teamwork
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by the new Bradfather on Jan 17, 2012 7:52 PM CST reply actions
too bad Paschke has to
invoke archived highlights to assert how prolific the Bucks are behind the line
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by the new Bradfather on Jan 17, 2012 7:53 PM CST reply actions
Tank On
"He always plays like he's a pit bull that hasn't been fed in about a year and that you've got pork chops in your pockets and that's the basketball." Of course, he's Canadian
Don't you quit on us!
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by keiththejourno on Jan 17, 2012 7:57 PM CST up reply actions
Corey Brewer has only played for 10 minutes
and he has 14 points, inefficiency exemplified on the part of the Bucks’ defense
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by the new Bradfather on Jan 17, 2012 7:57 PM CST reply actions
The Nuggets are showing how to negate momentum
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by the new Bradfather on Jan 17, 2012 7:59 PM CST reply actions
Why we were on a 2-0 run?
"He always plays like he's a pit bull that hasn't been fed in about a year and that you've got pork chops in your pockets and that's the basketball." Of course, he's Canadian
just in general
every time the Bucks do something well, Denver races down and get another basket
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by the new Bradfather on Jan 17, 2012 8:01 PM CST up reply actions
Was an attempt at humour
"He always plays like he's a pit bull that hasn't been fed in about a year and that you've got pork chops in your pockets and that's the basketball." Of course, he's Canadian
Ha Ha! Nicely done!
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by the new Bradfather on Jan 17, 2012 8:04 PM CST up reply actions
I went to bed to get 30 minutes sleep before game time.
I wish I hadn’t woken up.
Permanently.
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.....
Don’t make me call the suicide hotline…
by Jacob Grinyer on Jan 17, 2012 8:03 PM CST up reply actions
Please don't prolong my agony by getting me help.
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by keiththejourno on Jan 17, 2012 8:04 PM CST up reply actions
I know Sanders is Sanders but
Why not play the guy…
"He always plays like he's a pit bull that hasn't been fed in about a year and that you've got pork chops in your pockets and that's the basketball." Of course, he's Canadian
(That was meant in reply to CanadaBucks. Who needs the reply feature?)
by Jacob Grinyer on Jan 17, 2012 8:07 PM CST up reply actions
Because we're doing so much better w/o him?
"He always plays like he's a pit bull that hasn't been fed in about a year and that you've got pork chops in your pockets and that's the basketball." Of course, he's Canadian
the Nuggets know how to finish
and the Bucks really don’t
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by the new Bradfather on Jan 17, 2012 8:07 PM CST reply actions
second game in a row
A/T ratio is around 1:1
"He always plays like he's a pit bull that hasn't been fed in about a year and that you've got pork chops in your pockets and that's the basketball." Of course, he's Canadian
Catching up on DVR to be ready for live second half, but I'm getting a vibe and I've seen the box
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That’s this game.
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by keiththejourno on Jan 17, 2012 8:12 PM CST up reply actions
Crackers and cheese at the half? That’s how I roll.
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GARDETTOS should only come out in a close game or possible win, so cheese and crackers are fine in this case.
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by Steve von Horn on Jan 17, 2012 8:15 PM CST up reply actions
I don't know what 'Gardettos' is but I am going to interpret it to mean 'ladies of the night'
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by keiththejourno on Jan 17, 2012 8:20 PM CST up reply actions
Lol.
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by Steve von Horn on Jan 17, 2012 8:21 PM CST up reply actions
good news is we can not trade anyone
And still tank,,,not to be gloomy gus or anything but……
"He always plays like he's a pit bull that hasn't been fed in about a year and that you've got pork chops in your pockets and that's the basketball." Of course, he's Canadian
We're gonna need something more then a tank.
by Jacob Grinyer on Jan 17, 2012 8:16 PM CST up reply actions
Javale mcgee might be available lol
"He always plays like he's a pit bull that hasn't been fed in about a year and that you've got pork chops in your pockets and that's the basketball." Of course, he's Canadian
surely we can trade our tank....
for Timofey Mozgov?
Big Crazy Dave needs to mock up Hammond(s?) in an M1 Abrams or something...
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by Steve von Horn on Jan 17, 2012 8:18 PM CST up reply actions
4-9 and we'll still be in 9th
"He always plays like he's a pit bull that hasn't been fed in about a year and that you've got pork chops in your pockets and that's the basketball." Of course, he's Canadian
Our cup runneth over.
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by Steve von Horn on Jan 17, 2012 8:20 PM CST up reply actions
Miami 29-7 in the 3rd so far
Still 2:52 left
"He always plays like he's a pit bull that hasn't been fed in about a year and that you've got pork chops in your pockets and that's the basketball." Of course, he's Canadian
He certainly brings things the Bucks otherwise don't have.
Including, but not limited to, a desire to attack the basket hard.
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solidarity!
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by Steve von Horn on Jan 17, 2012 8:26 PM CST up reply actions
Jennings seems to have little or no concept of the importance of flow in a game. Pulls up and takes a sh*tty three following a good defensive stop. An easy score would have helped build momentum.
Jennings: Momentumally stupid.
Momentumally is a word.
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If feels like the nights you have been on the board have all been especially poor efforts by the Bucks.
I’m…sorry. Hope the Brew Hoop experience is going better, Keith
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by Steve von Horn on Jan 17, 2012 8:33 PM CST up reply actions
I'm planning a trip to Milwaukee early March and aiming to catch a game or two.
I can only pray things improve.
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by keiththejourno on Jan 17, 2012 8:35 PM CST up reply actions
Very cool. Do you have the games picked out yet?
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by Steve von Horn on Jan 17, 2012 8:36 PM CST up reply actions
Looking at Philly, Chicago and potentially NY as part of the three game home stand.
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by keiththejourno on Jan 17, 2012 8:39 PM CST up reply actions
Make sure to get your Chicago tickets a bit earlier. Bulls fans usually make the short trip and fill the place up.
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by Steve von Horn on Jan 17, 2012 8:40 PM CST up reply actions
Cheers for the heads up on that.
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by keiththejourno on Jan 17, 2012 8:41 PM CST up reply actions
How's the local team you are covering?
More exciting? More successful?
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by Steve von Horn on Jan 17, 2012 8:42 PM CST up reply actions
It's going well thanks mate.
Challenging at the top and likely to be competitive all year which will give me plenty to write about.
It’s been, and will continue to be, a great learning experience. I get such freedom and access to the players, coaches etc that I’d be a buffoon not to take advantage and learn as much as possible about sports journalism while I’m covering them.
Thoroughly enjoy it and determined to make a career out of it.
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by keiththejourno on Jan 17, 2012 8:45 PM CST up reply actions
Excellent stuff.
Anything you’ve learned strategy wise or finer-point analysis just by hanging around the team?
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by Steve von Horn on Jan 17, 2012 8:47 PM CST up reply actions
If I've understood you correctly - likely I haven't after stuffing my fat face with cheddar - and you're talking about coaching...
… I haven’t been able to get that close…yet. My working schedule means I miss about half the games which is a killer in terms of trust and additional access to the team. Plus the team is about 150 miles away so attending practices is also pretty difficult to do.
But when it comes to interviewing, building rapport and improving writing style, I’ve learnt a ton.
But next up on my learning curve is definitely learning the finer details of the game and basically just educating myself to see things from a view other than as a fan.
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by keiththejourno on Jan 17, 2012 8:53 PM CST up reply actions
Brandon Jennings just does not get it.
He would be perfect for the Wizards. True story.
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by Steve von Horn on Jan 17, 2012 8:33 PM CST up reply actions
So is the Denver coroners office.
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by keiththejourno on Jan 17, 2012 8:34 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Player personnel definitely has a bearing on what Jennings does, no doubt.
But too many times, he’s had support and still winds up making a bad decision.
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by keiththejourno on Jan 17, 2012 8:36 PM CST up reply actions
the futility ensues
even if Denver has next to nothing in this quarter
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by the new Bradfather on Jan 17, 2012 8:33 PM CST reply actions
Euro threes he's a beast.
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by Steve von Horn on Jan 17, 2012 8:41 PM CST up reply actions
THE NEW KAREEM!
Yeah, maybe not.
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by keiththejourno on Jan 17, 2012 8:41 PM CST up reply actions
The Bucks never quit
much credit is due!
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by the new Bradfather on Jan 17, 2012 8:41 PM CST reply actions
Is this like a mad-lib?
The Bucks never quit (verb)
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by Steve von Horn on Jan 17, 2012 8:44 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I guess so
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by the new Bradfather on Jan 17, 2012 8:44 PM CST up reply actions
the 70's ruled.
There’s actually a team called the “Nuggets”
Corey Brewer 7 of 10 shooting if you need him
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by the new Bradfather on Jan 17, 2012 8:46 PM CST reply actions
Why is F in Udrih keep getting up in Millers grill only to let him blow by, I don't get it
wouldn’t you want Miller to shoot long jumpers not penatrate????
once again the Nuggets are just too swift
or at least are working harder than the Bucks
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by the new Bradfather on Jan 17, 2012 8:47 PM CST reply actions
that one hurts
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by the new Bradfather on Jan 17, 2012 8:51 PM CST reply actions
Rate your Bucks viewing experience tonight (1-10 scale)
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1 = worse than being dry humped by an elephant and 10 = a crisp sandwich:
3. This board has made it slightly more bearable.
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by keiththejourno on Jan 17, 2012 8:55 PM CST up reply actions
having never been
dry humped by an elephant, I cannot relate
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by the new Bradfather on Jan 17, 2012 9:00 PM CST up reply actions
That's a positive composite score so far. Small victories
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by Steve von Horn on Jan 17, 2012 8:57 PM CST up reply actions
if everyone had Leuer's heart....
think Ara Parseghian lecturing Reuttiger in Rudy
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by the new Bradfather on Jan 17, 2012 8:54 PM CST reply actions
I just don't understand why he wouldn't sub-in Jennings and Bogut and try...
and get some chemistry going with Leuer and Harris. Try to build.
Nope, introduce bit-part players who never will be.
You not a Harris fan?
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by Steve von Horn on Jan 17, 2012 8:59 PM CST up reply actions
i don't know, you know he is not my kind of player, league is dominated by athletic freaks
he is not that….
Dominated I'd say eh, especially at PF.
The names Tyrus Thomas, Anthony Randolph, Stromile Swift, Hakim Warrick, etc. come to mind as athletic failures.
Guys like Paul Millsap, Elton Brand, Rasheed Wallace, Louis Scola, Carlos Boozer, LaMarcus Aldridge come to mind as successes without elite athleticism at PF.
I’m still intrigued by Harris.
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by Steve von Horn on Jan 17, 2012 9:08 PM CST up reply actions
Are you saying the guys on the second list had elite athleticism?
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by Steve von Horn on Jan 17, 2012 9:17 PM CST up reply actions
For all the Hammond bashing, he looks to have had a good draft this yr
Considering where they were picked, Harris and JL look like good/great pcks
I agree. They look like value selections at the moment
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by Steve von Horn on Jan 17, 2012 9:21 PM CST up reply actions
Per Skiles, pre-game:
Tobias is a 3 and Jon is a 4, so they are not really at the same position.
by Alex Boeder on Jan 17, 2012 11:09 PM CST up reply actions
Tobias got pile driven
there, did he pretend he was a Packer over the weekend?
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by the new Bradfather on Jan 17, 2012 8:59 PM CST reply actions
does anyone believe in late 13-0 surges?
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by the new Bradfather on Jan 17, 2012 9:02 PM CST reply actions
The Law is the Law
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by the new Bradfather on Jan 17, 2012 9:08 PM CST reply actions
Just got home for bbal game, but it looks like
An amazing game by Jennings could potentially be wasted because Jackson and Bogut have combined to make 1 shot.
Tajh Boyd and Dre' Ellington are the future.
Brandon Jennings; Just keep waiting people.
*from a bball game
Tajh Boyd and Dre' Ellington are the future.
Brandon Jennings; Just keep waiting people.
by BlackPack-fan on Jan 17, 2012 9:14 PM CST up reply actions
Meh. Jennings didn't help much until the game was gone.
Scored about 15 in the garbage time to get the game back into single digits for a bit, but that’s all. Nothing special when it mattered
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by Steve von Horn on Jan 17, 2012 9:19 PM CST up reply actions
8 of the next 10 are against very good teams [other 2 w/ Det]
Well, NY isn’t very good, but i still see a loss.
Me thinks things are about to get ugly…
In fairness, this game was garbage time starting in the second quarter
None of the Bucks had much of a chance to do anything while the game was in the balance :)
by Frank Madden on Jan 17, 2012 10:13 PM CST up reply actions
Well good night guys
hopefully it turns around
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by the new Bradfather on Jan 17, 2012 9:16 PM CST reply actions
Just saw interview w/ Jax and he's visibly pissed - and didn't seem happy w/ his mpg [i.e. - skiles]
Man, just a few more games like this, and the wheels could totally come off…
I'm fine with Skiles sending a message
He’s played Jax past 40 minutes on enough off nights that it’s about time he go the opposite direction if he’s not getting it done.
by Frank Madden on Jan 17, 2012 10:15 PM CST up reply actions
Back from my meeting
And won’t have to give the DVR for this night’s “effort” much time.
Wonder what our franchise will do with itself?
I guess Jackson had this to say:
“We just aint playing well, we don’t have an identity right now, we really don’t know whether to be on offense…. it’s a lot of stuff going on why we ain’t playing well, if they want to single me out fine, it’s my fault, it’s my fault…”
And a fan offerred:
We also appear to just pray that the other team won’t make the pass to the 3 point shooter we leave wide open on every possession.
I’m not going to pretend that this matter largely to me. The franchise has pounded me into comparative indifference. Like some song must have said: “If you ain’t got nothing you got nothing to lose.”
If management choses to just ride out the storm, keep all the Win Now guys, get a top 10 pick in the draft, and enter next fall with proclaimed bold optimism, I’m going to think the world is an absurdist side show at the horror movie carnival.
I think defending at point of attack has been embarrassing of late
Bucks seem to think they can let guys beat them on the perimeter and Bogut/weak side help is going to solve all their problems. Sorry, but that’s not how it works. Nuggs just drove-and-kicked them to death tonight.
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