Navigation: Jump to content areas:


Pro Quality. Fan Perspective.
Login-facebook
Around SBN: The Most Dangerous Division in Sports

Bucks 105, Rockets 99: Milwaukee's Second Half Surge Snaps Houston's Streak

Box Score

You can call the Bucks many things: frustrating, dysfunctional, mercurial, improving, regressing. Just don't call them predictable.

Two nights after slumping to a home defeat against the Hawks, the Bucks resumed their winning ways on the road with a bizarre come-from-behind win over the previously red-hot Rockets, snapping Houston's seven-game winning streak while extending their road streak to three games.

Unfortunately, part of what made the Bucks' win so unlikely could also spell bad news going forward. After helping the Bucks streak to a 12-0 start, Andrew Bogut sprained his ankle after landing awkwardly following a challenged shot. Though the big man limped off to the locker room under his own power, he was quickly ruled out for the rest of the game and his status remains unclear for Friday night's tilt in Chicago. Here we go again?

But let's ignore the potentially bad and focus on the good for now. After watching Kevin Martin (29 pts on 22 shots) help the Rockets surge to a 51-42 halftime advantage and lead by double-digits in the third quarter, the Bucks suddenly found their touch--and then some--at the end of the third. Riding the hot hands of reserves Mike Dunleavy (18 points on 11 shots) and Stephen Jackson (20 points on 16 shots), Milwaukee reeled off an absurd 20-0 run to lead by as many as 17 in the fourth before hanging on in the final minute.

And while Brandon Jennings (20 pts on 16 shots, 6 ast, 1 to) quietly outdueled Kyle Lowry (6 pts on 16 shots, 10 ast, 8 reb) in the game's marquee matchup, this win was really about the Bucks' depth outlasting the Rockets' superior starting five. Milwaukee's eight subs outscored Kevin McHale's short three-man bench by a staggering 66-15 margin, including 48-4 in the second half as the Bucks outscored the Rockets overall by a 63-48 margin.

It was neither predictable nor pretty, but for a Bucks team just trying to survive a brutal January? Just call it a win.

Star-divide

Following a hot start, Bogut's departure with 2:31 remaining in the first seemed to immediately deflate the Bucks, who struggled to contain Lowry's penetration as the Rockets began finding open looks all over the court. They missed most of them (39% in the first half), but 12 offensive rebounds helped fuel a 38-22 Houston run after Bogut's injury.

The Bucks didn't look particularly likely to turn things around early in the third, but Houston continued to struggle from the perimeter, and the Bucks continued to hang around thanks largely to three triples from Jennings. It still didn't seem like Milwaukee was a serious threat to actually win, but that mindset might have been Houston's undoing. Trailing 70-66, Dunleavy and Beno Udrih shook off their shooting slumps to bury their own threes and give the Bucks an unlikely 72-70 lead heading into the decisive frame. But could they actually hold on?

Surprisingly, yes. The all-reserve lineup of Udrih, Jackson, Dunleavy, Ilyasova and Larry Sanders (he played! and pretty well!) ripped off a further 14-0 spurt in the first 3:05 of the fourth quarter, and Jackson and Dunleavy continued to rain jumpers even after Martin and impressive rookie Chandler Parsons started to come alive for Houston. But the Rockets wouldn't be contained for too long; the Bucks seemed to go into a prevent defense of sorts (we all know how that works), and Milwaukee predictably became overly concerned with using up the shot clock at the expense of creating make-able shots.

Thankfully, the Rockets were still a bit too careless to complete their own comeback. Dragic's layup trimmed the lead to 98-94 with just 74 seconds remaining, but Drew Gooden (of all people) intercepted Dragic's attempted drive-and-kick and subsequently hit both free throws to help ice the game with under 30 seconds left.

Three Bucks

Mike Dunleavy. Dunleavy typically doesn't smile much (read: ever) on the court, but not even the usually stoic former Duke star could contain a smile and laugh after burying his first three of the game late in the third. Two earlier misses from deep had run Dunleavy's three-point futility streak to an incredible 0/15 since returning from injury last Friday, so finally seeing a shot fall seemed to serve as a weight off his shoulders. Mike scored 12 of his season-high 18 points in the game's final 12:33, including a trio of triples that had been a long time coming.

Ersan Ilyasova. The Bucks were pounded on the boards for much of the night, including a 35-22 deficit in the first half. But Ilyasova kept things respectable all on his own, tearing down a career-best 19 rebounds in 28 minutes. Sure, we'd all love to see Jon Leuer getting more regular minutes, but at the moment Ilyasova is earning his time and then some. Drew Gooden... well, not quite so much.

Stephen Jackson. So maybe this bench thing could work out after all? A game after taking just a single shot against the Hawks, Jax scored nine of his 20 in the fourth quarter and diligently defended Lowry (with Jennings guarding Goran Dragic) for much of the fourth. That's now two wins out of three with Jackson coming off the bench, though the more important fact is that Jackson has closed out all three. Something tells me that--along with winning--is much more important to him.

Three Numbers

14/29. The long ball won it for Milwaukee, which curiously made more triples than free throws (13/17) for the first time this season.

66-15. Jackson and Dunleavy did most of the scoring damage off the bench, but every Buck played and all but Leuer scored.

20. The Bucks' 20-0 run starting at the end of the third was the game's clear turning point. And four late free throws from Jennings helped the Bucks' scoring leader crack the 20-point mark for a career-high fifth straight game.

Three Good

Depth. Jennings (33 minutes) was the only Buck starter who played more than 20 minutes, which worked out only because Skiles got starter-caliber performances from one-time starters Jackson, Dunleavy and Ilyasova.

Sticking it out. The rumormill will tell you that the Bucks are a dysfunctional bunch whose established leader/best player (I think Bogut still qualifies?) hasn't been seeing eye to eye with his coach. The standings will tell you that the Bucks are barely in the playoff picture with little chance of moving up much further than the 7th spot in the East.

And yet you couldn't help but smile while watching one of Skiles' more random combinations pull off an improbable fourth quarter run, stealing another road win against one of the league's hottest clubs. We can debate the true potential of the current Bucks' roster until we're blue in the face, but winning still seems pretty fun to me.

Streaking. The Bucks won four straight home games to start the season, but have now lost two straight at the BC. They lost eight straight road games to start the season, but have now won three straight. Go figure. The Bucks are now tied with the Cavs for the 8th spot in the East at 7-10, trailing the Celtics (7-9) by a half game and leading the Knicks (7-11) by a similarly narrow margin.

Three Bad

Bogut's health. Gery Woelfel tweets Bogut could miss a couple games with his latest injury, the latest in the ever-expanding list of injuries suffered by the Bucks' big man. Bogut is expected to have an MRI tomorrow, but his status for Friday's game in Chicago and Saturday's game against the Lakers at home are in major doubt.

Surviving January. The Bucks haven't done it yet, and losing Bogut won't make this weekend's games against Rose and Kobe any easier.

Youngsters. The only downside of a healthy roster? A sudden lack of minutes for the Bucks' youngsters. Tobias Harris and Jon Leuer have gone from regular (and positive) contributors to spectators in about a week, and it's anybody's guess when they'll be back in the mix.

Comment 92 comments  |  0 recs  | 

Do you like this story?

Comments

Display:

How the hell did they do that?

The Udrih-led group in the second half was incredible.

New game plan: hit 50% from the arc as a team every game.

SB Nation Brew Hoop - Editor | SB Nation Midwest - News Desk Contributor | SB Nation Chicago - Writer | SB Nation Basketball - Scores & More | Twitter: @stevevonhorn

by Steve von Horn on Jan 25, 2012 10:19 PM CST reply actions  

Bucks, 13-man rotation > Rockets, 8-man rotation

by Alex Boeder on Jan 25, 2012 11:09 PM CST reply actions  

Confused

I just don’t understand this team — they don’t follow any kind of pattern or get into any kind of rhythm… except for BJ, he’s consistently making better decisions.

by liptrill on Jan 25, 2012 11:37 PM CST reply actions  

Skiles

doesn’t understand the importance of continuity. He feels it’s better to keep trying diff players/combinations than letting anyone play through it and develop a common ground.

by RedHopeful on Jan 26, 2012 10:31 AM CST up reply actions  

Whoever coached the Bucks tonight did a pretty good job

Wonder who that was?

Shooting well from 3 always gives me mixed feelings. Good for the moment. Breeds a risky offense that looks lame when it misfires.

Good energy again. No sign to me of bad after effects from the Atlanta game. Of course, that fact that is was topsy tonight doesn’t mean it won’t be turvy on Friday. NBA basketball is unpredictable. A cynic (we have none here, right?) might say that suggests it’s too often meaningless.

by unklchuk on Jan 25, 2012 11:47 PM CST reply actions  

It was just that everybody did what they were supposed to, and hit their shots.

We had similar lineups vs. Hawks that couldn’t get anything done. Tonight they could. I think it validates for me those Hawks lineups, I had doubted them before.

A samurai sword collection. If you can do it. I don’t know if you’re allowed.

by TwoShoesMcGooze on Jan 26, 2012 8:13 AM CST up reply actions  

In fact, there were rumblings that Skiles intentionally lost that game, for one reason or other.

I think that last-night’s performance makes that seem a lot less likely than it seemed on Monday.

A samurai sword collection. If you can do it. I don’t know if you’re allowed.

by TwoShoesMcGooze on Jan 26, 2012 9:21 AM CST up reply actions  

the intentional loss hypothesis

always seemed convoluted and unlikely to me

by unklchuk on Jan 26, 2012 9:36 AM CST up reply actions  

Sure. The faith in my mind is built from the original plans for the yoyo. It goes up and down.

Well, just finished the morning cereal. Time to earn a living.

Damn. Not quite ready to extricate. Yes, it seems to be good strategy by Skiles to let Dunleavy work his way out of that 3-point funk. But relying on Mike in crunch time of the Atlanta game may not have been genius. Too much pressure in too short a time, before Dunleavy’s ice had begun to break. The Houston game, on the other hand, gave Mike a whole game to crawl out of the funk.

Of course, asking genius of a coach may not be fair.

by unklchuk on Jan 26, 2012 9:57 AM CST up reply actions  

Bogut on his ankle

From the J-S:

“It wasn’t good,” Bogut said. "I knew when I came down I was in some trouble. Keeping optimistic, everything’s fine with the X-ray, but that’s to be expected. I know I didn’t break a bone.

“But tomorrow’s the day of reckoning where I go under the MRI machine and find out my fate.”

The best-case scenario would be a severely sprained ankle, but even that would be likely to sideline Bogut for a week or more.

“Once we know what the diagnosis is, we’ll know how to treat it,” Bogut said. "But it’s going to be ice-massage, ice-massage, ice-massage.

“I’m not optimistic. With my history of unlucky injuries I’m hoping this one can do me a favor and (go away). Most of my injuries are unfortunate things and this goes in the same boat as that. It’s frustrating.”

Bogut said if he gets some good news “hopefully it would be a week thing. We’ll see what happens.”

by unklchuk on Jan 26, 2012 1:17 AM CST reply actions  

Well... I'd honestly rather have him miss games we are expected to lose with him anyways...

We really need him more for those toss-up type of games that will ultimately determine our playoff fate…

by Superelkman on Jan 26, 2012 9:15 AM CST up reply actions  

Not sure if he qualifies on either count
The rumormill will tell you that the Bucks are a dysfunctional bunch whose established leader/best player (I think Bogut still qualifies?) hasn’t been seeing eye to eye with his coach.

Best player, not so far this year, leader is kind of iffy too, maybe Jax is taking that position.

"He always plays like he's a pit bull that hasn't been fed in about a year and that you've got pork chops in your pockets and that's the basketball." Of course, he's Canadian

by CanadaBucks on Jan 26, 2012 6:28 AM CST reply actions  

Bogut SHOULD be the team's best player

but right now it’s Jennings, and it’s not even close. Bogut’s not even second to him; that would be Shaun Livingston.

http://twitter.com/WhalesLarry ...but only if you want to see someone still trying to figure Twitter out.

by Mitchell Maurer on Jan 26, 2012 7:26 AM CST up reply actions  

MORE IMPORTANTLY...

“Doesn’t see eye to eye with his coach.” Where did that come from?

A samurai sword collection. If you can do it. I don’t know if you’re allowed.

by TwoShoesMcGooze on Jan 26, 2012 8:09 AM CST up reply actions  

it was a consensus view

At RealGM. Moderator included. Don’t know if someone there had inside info or not.

Some of their consensus views are 100% arbitrary.

by unklchuk on Jan 26, 2012 8:16 AM CST up reply actions  

What article, if you please?

A samurai sword collection. If you can do it. I don’t know if you’re allowed.

by TwoShoesMcGooze on Jan 26, 2012 8:22 AM CST up reply actions  

I hate it

When people act nice then I can’t ignore what they ask of me. I’m gamed. Wonder if Machiavelli was nice?

This bluster is to hide that I don’t know how to answer your question. Or, phrased alternatively, am not quite willing to take the big chunk of time it would take to make a serious attempt to answer it. In the gnashing & wailing following the Skiles end-of-game lineup debacle, several posters claimed knowledge that one player – and they thought him to be Bogut – had troubles with Skiles. A moderator thought so too.

It was in one or both very active threads at that time. They are:

“PG: Skiles is on the STEALTH TANK?? "

“Gery Woelfel on WSSP (Tuesday morning 8:00am CST) "

The 2nd one for sure; the 1st I might have wrong. But they total approx 800 posts, so the detective work may be tedious. (There may be a way to search their archives but I don’t know how.)

Did the info have solid attribution? No, I don’t think it did. But the people who said it sounded sure of themselves.


Not sure I’m entitled to my own view after such a slipshod answer. Here it is anyway. I think Skiles in his passive bullying way has been trying to force Bogut to be more productive, tougher, and more consistent. Bogut probably isn’t fond of bullying. And likely doesn’t think he’s the source of the major Bucks problems. There’s probably some trouble on both sides.

by unklchuk on Jan 26, 2012 8:58 AM CST up reply actions  

Woelfel has been alluding to Bogut/Skiles friction on his last couple WSSP calls.

Click on the word “rumormill” in the article above—that’s a link to the mp3 audio.

by Frank Madden on Jan 26, 2012 9:24 AM CST up reply actions  

^^^ Yeah I traced it back to Woelfel on Real GM, thanks unk

A samurai sword collection. If you can do it. I don’t know if you’re allowed.

by TwoShoesMcGooze on Jan 26, 2012 9:33 AM CST up reply actions  

Yahoo! Sports' current team report is particularly bleak

I don’t see it, but if it comes down to Bogut and Jackson or Skiles, I’ll go with the coach every time. Bogut had potential, but he’s a middling big with serious health issues at this point. If this is him before thirty, I don’t want to see the rest. He can’t even outplay Samuel Dalembert for one game in his entire career.

by MadTown Hoops on Jan 26, 2012 9:34 AM CST up reply actions  

For bitter or for worse...

I’ve come to think of Bogut as a loose bag of bones. He seems the kind of loose-jointed guy whose muscles don’t do enough to prevent injury. As he moves into middle age, that general weakness gets worse.

Pretty soon he’s going to look like a guy who belongs on a YMCA basketball court at lunch time.

by unklchuk on Jan 26, 2012 9:48 AM CST up reply actions  

Those guys are brutal...

A samurai sword collection. If you can do it. I don’t know if you’re allowed.

by TwoShoesMcGooze on Jan 26, 2012 9:54 AM CST up reply actions  

My other memory of inner city basketball

…was the day I took my ball to an empty school playground. 3 teens joined me for a brief game. One of them put a move on me that I wasn’t nowhere close to handling. The top of his head opened a gash over my eyebrow. Well, I had to live with moving like a glacier, but I could be tough. So I kept playing. After a minute or so, the quick guy, looking at the blood, stopped. Handed me my ball. Said “You should have that cut looked at.” And left the court.

That may not mean much. But to me it was an example of a young man expressing himself eloquently in the simplest of ways. Looking out for me, while practicing the reserve that was so commonplace in the inner city between strangers of different races.

by unklchuk on Jan 26, 2012 10:28 AM CST up reply actions  

Yeah, the YMCA guys aren't quick either...

That’s why they’re all elbows, man. All elbows.

A samurai sword collection. If you can do it. I don’t know if you’re allowed.

by TwoShoesMcGooze on Jan 26, 2012 10:35 AM CST up reply actions  

I do know what you mean, I guess

They’re like some guys at the bottom of football rosters. They know, everyone knows, they don’t have talent. So they boost their status slightly by being as mean as they can get away with.

I guess that shows they have heart. Guess they’re noble in an ignoble way.

by unklchuk on Jan 26, 2012 10:45 AM CST up reply actions  

This is almost literature, Chuk

Enjoyed them a lot. Your writing is enhancing the possibilities of this media. Your writing is becoming to blogs commenting what The Sopranos or The Wire shows are to TV.

by palomba on Jan 26, 2012 12:29 PM CST up reply actions  

Up until a few years ago...

I played a block from where I grew up, at a Catholic grade school, every Sunday night. During the NBA season, and while he was still on the Bucks, guess who showed up with a few friends to play? None other than Shawn Respert. I stole the ball from one of his friends, and Respert, from the sidelines, blurted out “That dude picked you, dog” ….I will never forget it.

by tommyr on Jan 26, 2012 5:49 PM CST up reply actions  

ups and downs and ups

I was feeling pretty good about how we were playing and then bogut went down. The 2nd quarter convinced me this game was lost. But the end of the 3rd and the beginning of the 4th quarter was a kind of thrilling domination I hadn’t seen from the Bucks in a long time. I think I should stop expecting and just watch!

by JaneG on Jan 26, 2012 7:34 AM CST reply actions  

Running the clock down was absolutely the right thing to do there...

The Bucks missed all of their shots on those “rundown” possessions, and still won. It’s about the time left, and there was too little of it for the Rockets. No real need to press to score, you knew they’d start fouling. Idk I just wasn’t nervous at the end.

A samurai sword collection. If you can do it. I don’t know if you’re allowed.

by TwoShoesMcGooze on Jan 26, 2012 8:08 AM CST reply actions  

"I think I should stop expecting and just watch!"

Somebody should sig that.

Despite the scent of cynicism in my earlier post, the games do mean something. They just don’t mean much when taken out of context. And, in context, they mean less that face value.

Loss of Bogut for weeks (if the sprain is the bad kind) seems to mean season without much of an upside. But who knows? These are the Bucks.

by unklchuk on Jan 26, 2012 8:11 AM CST reply actions  

"somebody should sig that"?

do you mean somebody should SIGN that or what?

by JaneG on Jan 26, 2012 9:30 AM CST up reply actions  

I just meant it was a nice brief statement containing truth.

Worth being someone’s slogan statement. “Sig” for signature.

by unklchuk on Jan 26, 2012 9:33 AM CST up reply actions  

Almost nobody on here has one, anyways.

A samurai sword collection. If you can do it. I don’t know if you’re allowed.

by TwoShoesMcGooze on Jan 26, 2012 9:34 AM CST up reply actions  

Says a man who has an inscrutable one on samurai swords.

by unklchuk on Jan 26, 2012 9:50 AM CST up reply actions  

Somebody asked Zach Greinke what he wanted most.

A samurai sword collection. If you can do it. I don’t know if you’re allowed.

by TwoShoesMcGooze on Jan 26, 2012 9:55 AM CST up reply actions  

Hey, BrewHoopers

Does Frank laugh like that in real life?

Or does his being stranded in Boston mean you don’t know?

by unklchuk on Jan 26, 2012 10:50 AM CST up reply actions  

I'm sure I've made Frank laugh on our offseason podcasts, chuk.

See all the little things you could get from those? :)

That reminds me….need to get those up again at some point.

SB Nation Brew Hoop - Editor | SB Nation Midwest - News Desk Contributor | SB Nation Chicago - Writer | SB Nation Basketball - Scores & More | Twitter: @stevevonhorn

by Steve von Horn on Jan 26, 2012 12:12 PM CST up reply actions  

And the comment blog?

"He always plays like he's a pit bull that hasn't been fed in about a year and that you've got pork chops in your pockets and that's the basketball." Of course, he's Canadian

by CanadaBucks on Jan 26, 2012 12:53 PM CST up reply actions  

In progress.

SB Nation Brew Hoop - Editor | SB Nation Midwest - News Desk Contributor | SB Nation Chicago - Writer | SB Nation Basketball - Scores & More | Twitter: @stevevonhorn

by Steve von Horn on Jan 26, 2012 1:15 PM CST up reply actions  

I actually think it might be time to change.

A samurai sword collection. If you can do it. I don’t know if you’re allowed.

by TwoShoesMcGooze on Jan 26, 2012 11:17 AM CST up reply actions  

Can I get that cast?

…I would love to put it next to Joe Wolf’s shoes. Yes, I have a signed pair of Joe Wolfs shoes.

by Jewfin6789 on Jan 26, 2012 12:00 PM CST up reply actions  

Awesome.

What kind of shoes did Joe Wolf actually wear? And did he offer up much resistance when you plucked them from his feet?

by Frank Madden on Jan 26, 2012 12:20 PM CST up reply actions  

I'll get a picture eventually.

I honestly have no idea what kind of shoes he wore. They’ve been sitting in my closet for years. He offered up very little resistance actually. In fact, I won them in a raffle back in the late 90s (when he was still playing). His sister lives in my town so he donated them to our raffle or something.

by Jewfin6789 on Jan 26, 2012 8:24 PM CST up reply actions  

We have an entrant... Others?

Frank will have to verify. Or maybe Steve, since he’s a CPA. But the entrant certainly sounds legit to me.

But for it to be a contest, there have to be more entries… Contest doesn’t close until the end of the Bucks Bulls game.

by unklchuk on Jan 26, 2012 1:08 PM CST up reply actions  

Steve's a CPA?

Geez I thought he was a law-yer

"He always plays like he's a pit bull that hasn't been fed in about a year and that you've got pork chops in your pockets and that's the basketball." Of course, he's Canadian

by CanadaBucks on Jan 26, 2012 1:43 PM CST up reply actions  

Certified Producer (of) Advanced (stats)

Lawyer? Did he threaten to sue you? He does to everyone.

by unklchuk on Jan 26, 2012 2:11 PM CST up reply actions  

Oh I thought you meant a real CPA

Oh well.

"He always plays like he's a pit bull that hasn't been fed in about a year and that you've got pork chops in your pockets and that's the basketball." Of course, he's Canadian

by CanadaBucks on Jan 26, 2012 2:16 PM CST up reply actions  

I seek a way to distinguish my facts from my fiction. Still looking.

Be nice if the fiction could start out looking like fact and then 5 or 10 seconds after reading, it would turn green or turn italic or blink obnoxiously or something. Not much fun in saying fiction things if they’re obvious from the get go. Foolishness is especially foolish if it doesn’t have the temporary ring of reality.

by unklchuk on Jan 26, 2012 2:34 PM CST up reply actions  

You know, I really feel sorry for the guy.

I feel sorry for us too, though. Kind of crazy how one injury has changed the course of the franchise drastically, to the point where it might have been the difference between even having a franchise 3+ years down the line. Butterfly effect, in your face style.

A samurai sword collection. If you can do it. I don’t know if you’re allowed.

by TwoShoesMcGooze on Jan 26, 2012 11:31 AM CST reply actions  

It sounds like a bit going on behind the scenes

But do have to give the guys some credit for winning a few games lately which could have gotten away from us.

by Bucksnorge on Jan 26, 2012 12:15 PM CST reply actions  

1. I do give them credit. They’ve shown energy and heart — and that counts with me.

2. Re “the guy.” I’m tempted to summarize by saying that Hammond and the Bucks have had 2 or 3 pieces of bad luck that weren’t their fault. And have responded by doing a string of things that are their fault.

by unklchuk on Jan 26, 2012 1:13 PM CST up reply actions  

Guys...it's a sprained ankle

Hardly an indication of being injury prone…it must be about the most common injury in basketball…talk to Steph Curry about it.

And we won the last game without him..against a team that had won 6 or 7 straight…in their gym…on the back of a guy pulling in 19 boards who is regularly floated as trade bait.

We almost beat Atlanta in a playoff series without #6 for crying out loud…when he was arguably a much bigger part of the team’s success.

No Bogut = more minutes for the PF logjam…maybe someone starts playing to potential and the Bucks ramp it up. Or at least we get to some more mind-bending “plays” from Drew Gooden.

He will be probably be back in two weeks max, the Bucks will be like 11 and 15 and we can all remind ourselves how our team is likely in exactly the same spot as before.

It sucks being an optimist. Or at least indulging in Bucks-type optimism. I can’t decide whether this post is half-full or half-empty.

by 2-33 on Jan 26, 2012 3:38 PM CST reply actions  

I'm glad for optimism (grounded in at least a little fact)

But not all sprains are minor. For instance, one kind (a high functioning sprain or some such) has a projected out time of 4-6 weeks. With the short season, that would be unfortunate.

Bucks are apparently still waiting on the MRI results.

by unklchuk on Jan 26, 2012 4:19 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah I nuked my ankle in a game in a similar fashion once...

Admittedly I am not 7" 260, but I was on crutches for a couple of weeks and couldnt really play freely for at least 4…only a sprain too.

I had forgotten about that…minor optimism evaporation…

by 2-33 on Jan 26, 2012 4:27 PM CST up reply actions  

Sorry to drain from your glass

by unklchuk on Jan 26, 2012 4:34 PM CST up reply actions  

s'ok

Will just sit around waiting for Gooden to throw an alleyoop to himself off the referee’s face from the half-court or similar…I don’t mind losing if we are doing it in style.

by 2-33 on Jan 26, 2012 4:55 PM CST up reply actions  

"Losing in Style" = Gooden's new nickname?

LiS? OK, I try way too hard to come up with overly verbose nicknames that would never be practical…yet they amuse me so…

by Frank Madden on Jan 26, 2012 5:11 PM CST up reply actions  

That's nice work, Frank.

Drewlis. Rolls off the tongue.

Too negative tho? There’s gotta be a bit of love left for our favourite journeyman on BrewHoop surely…?

by 2-33 on Jan 26, 2012 5:15 PM CST up reply actions  

And ....

It’s just another part of his body that will be more vulnerable.

by tommyr on Jan 26, 2012 5:53 PM CST up reply actions  

Off topic - Part of Argentinian Olympic Squad named

Not a surprise but Carlitos makes the team -

http://au.sports.yahoo.com/basketball/news/article/-/12736019/argentina-mens-basketball-squad/

Like it how the Argentinian coaches just swapped roles from head coach to assistant..can you see that happening in Milwaukee…

by 2-33 on Jan 26, 2012 3:53 PM CST reply actions  

Check the trade FanPost

FTD traded Carlos to Houston to join Scola so they could be on two teams together.

"He always plays like he's a pit bull that hasn't been fed in about a year and that you've got pork chops in your pockets and that's the basketball." Of course, he's Canadian

by CanadaBucks on Jan 26, 2012 4:19 PM CST up reply actions  

Makes sense to me — although I’ll miss his swagger… It’ll be good to see the two of them reunited at the dinner table. In return, I think we get 3 Diners Club cards. Kohl, Hammond and Gooden should have some good eatin’ ahead.

by unklchuk on Jan 26, 2012 4:24 PM CST up reply actions  

Thabeet...

Is he even out of the D-League?

…am I looking at the right post.

by 2-33 on Jan 26, 2012 4:25 PM CST up reply actions  

Yes

I think the idea is that Dunleavy is Delfino so you kind of have duplication there, plus it might free up time for Tobias. We have a big body who maybe can play some for us. Brockman is vig.

"He always plays like he's a pit bull that hasn't been fed in about a year and that you've got pork chops in your pockets and that's the basketball." Of course, he's Canadian

by CanadaBucks on Jan 26, 2012 4:28 PM CST up reply actions  

This whole thing is fiction — not fact. Right?

RealGM’s news ticker has no story on any trade. [Turn about is unfair play; respect your senior citizens…]

by unklchuk on Jan 26, 2012 4:29 PM CST up reply actions  

FTD as in

The poster with the name FearTheDeer so it’s absolute and utter fiction.

"He always plays like he's a pit bull that hasn't been fed in about a year and that you've got pork chops in your pockets and that's the basketball." Of course, he's Canadian

by CanadaBucks on Jan 26, 2012 5:02 PM CST up reply actions  

Aye - fantasy trading only

If Thabeet has come so far that we woulod be interested in him, why would Houston want to trade him? Intriguing idea though. Giving up a reasonably athletic, streaky shooting swingman and Brockman’s occasional tomahawk jams for 6 fouls and blown dunks would be frustrating…unless he has really developed.

I like Dunleavy and stats wise I am sure it makes some kind of sense but yeah, as above would miss the swagger, hot streaks and the occasional facial he deals out…Carlos is an energy guy…when he gets rolling he can get the team and the arena pumping, swing momentum.

I am not sure I have ever seen Dunleavy attempt to get above the rim.

Not really great criteria in this instance for analyzing this potential trade on my part I must admit. I am more of an ‘eye test’ than solid basketball sense guy sometimes. A failing of sorts.

by 2-33 on Jan 26, 2012 5:02 PM CST up reply actions  

Houston did not chose to pick up Thabeet's option

Whether that means they want to resign him at a lower price or have in interest any more, who knows. If they would make that trade as we need a big boday and if he ever “got it” we would have some sort of right to him wouldn’t we? FWIW I don’t think Carlos will be back next year anyway.

"He always plays like he's a pit bull that hasn't been fed in about a year and that you've got pork chops in your pockets and that's the basketball." Of course, he's Canadian

by CanadaBucks on Jan 26, 2012 5:05 PM CST up reply actions  

I meant to say to

Remember some listers got excited about Earl Barron last year, Thabeet must be in the same class as Earl anyway.

"He always plays like he's a pit bull that hasn't been fed in about a year and that you've got pork chops in your pockets and that's the basketball." Of course, he's Canadian

by CanadaBucks on Jan 26, 2012 5:07 PM CST up reply actions  

Ah....

That would put a different complexion on it I guess.

If Carlos is gonna bail/be surplus to requirements (I am not up to speed on his contract situation) then yeah it makes a lot more sense. Would suck to see him go though.

Earl – he can drain a three I guess. Didn’t another team just pick him up?

by 2-33 on Jan 26, 2012 5:12 PM CST up reply actions  

Are you thinking Earl Boykins?

because earl barron’s range is likely about 4 1/2 feet. But he is with Phoenix.

"He always plays like he's a pit bull that hasn't been fed in about a year and that you've got pork chops in your pockets and that's the basketball." Of course, he's Canadian

by CanadaBucks on Jan 26, 2012 5:56 PM CST up reply actions  

Originally in the "Possible Bucks Trades" Topic

which is probably more appropriate because its all hypothetical BS. The keys to this trade idea was

Brockman is a bench riding, roster spot occupying, tight end
Delfino is an expiring, contributing redundancy in MKE
Houston wants cap space in the offseason and currently wants a starting SF Thabeet is a bench riding, declined option having, D Leaguer in HOU
Milwaukee could use a 7’5" expiring, lane clogging, foul-making, D Leaguer, better than nothing back-up C while Bogut is either injured or sick or struggling or in Australia or resting.

by FearTheDeer on Jan 26, 2012 5:42 PM CST up reply actions  

I like this deal

It is low risk and I think it might open up burn for Tobias, which is important to me, maybe not Skiles though.

"He always plays like he's a pit bull that hasn't been fed in about a year and that you've got pork chops in your pockets and that's the basketball." Of course, he's Canadian

by CanadaBucks on Jan 26, 2012 5:57 PM CST up reply actions  

Aaaaargh! Stupid Bucks!!

They’re going to screw me again!

Just when I thought an implosion was inevitable [but still might happen] they go and win a damn game – against a pretty good team!

Every victory will postpone any real change…. Management/coaches/players all seem to be content with being just a lil under .500. Again. For like the 20th year. [big sigh]

by victor s on Jan 26, 2012 5:28 PM CST reply actions  

Bogut's injury

the one good thing that could come from a month or so long Bogut injury is that Hammond would finally have to be aggressive about getting a back-up C.

by FearTheDeer on Jan 26, 2012 5:46 PM CST reply actions  

Bogut

GeryWoelfel Gery Woelfel
Andrew Bogut will be out indefinitely … At least 2 weeks.

by unklchuk on Jan 26, 2012 5:57 PM CST reply actions  

It sucks that if we were trying to trade him

that makes it tougher.

"He always plays like he's a pit bull that hasn't been fed in about a year and that you've got pork chops in your pockets and that's the basketball." Of course, he's Canadian

by CanadaBucks on Jan 26, 2012 5:58 PM CST up reply actions  

the yoyo goes up
the yoyo goes down
to see what’s next
gotta hang around

by unklchuk on Jan 26, 2012 6:04 PM CST up reply actions  

The news doesn't leave me speechless

A serious bogut injury? Hardly the stuff of surprise.

But I don’t have much to say.

I don’t see a course of action that offers anything worth savoring. Don’t see Hammond moving vets for a tank. Don’t see the team “redefining” itself and rising to FTD winning.

Maybe the best I see is Skiles/Hammond facing the reality, concentrating on playing the young players because nothing else contributes to our development. And that the young players play hard with spirit and are kinda fun to watch while they mostly lose. I could enjoy some of that. Not the full measure, but definitely some.

I mention Pryz not because he’s now a bright hope. Probably he isn’t. Will he now want in, as a starter? Would he help much? Is he healthy? It’s possible he could become a feel good story. Make us “average” at center; maybe even a run at the 8th or 7th playoff spot. Doesn’t seem likely.

A “desperate” trade that yields an average center by giving up future assets? Not interested; hope Kohl isn’t either, but one never knows.

If feels like this is the kind of situation that is made for the team’s front office temperament. Admit nothing and wait stoically for the season to come to an end (unless they’re making Win Now trades). I dislike their predilection to do that.

I have no better advice.

by unklchuk on Jan 26, 2012 10:58 PM CST reply actions  

Comments For This Post Are Closed


User Tools

Welcome to the SB Nation blog about the Milwaukee Bucks.

FanPosts

Community blog posts and discussion.

Recent FanPosts

Clemson-38-va-tech-10_small
NBA Draft Big Board (15+)
Whammyfy2_small
State of the Milwaukee Bucks
Lanier1_small
The Canada Bucks Big Board 2012
Small
Bucks... Looking Ahead To 2013..
Lanier1_small
Canada Bucks Mock Draft 2012 v2.01
Small
Skiles and Team Chemistry
Jenkins_fearless_1280x1024_small
Two Recent Story Links
Clemson-38-va-tech-10_small
All In On The 8th; Plus Draft Stuff, And John Salmons
Jenkins_fearless_1280x1024_small
Ekpe Udoh
Lanier1_small
The CB 2012 Mock Draft 1-14 First Edition

+ New FanPost All FanPosts >


Managers

Frank_small Frank Madden

Capture_small Alex Boeder

Editors

Milwaukee_bucks_modern_logo_small Dan Sinclair

Bruv__316x634___316x634___316x634__small Steve von Horn

Authors

Rubberducky_small Mitchell Maurer

Front_small Jacob Grinyer