Bucks 105, Rockets 99: Milwaukee's Second Half Surge Snaps Houston's Streak
You can call the Bucks many things: frustrating, dysfunctional, mercurial, improving, regressing. Just don't call them predictable.
Two nights after slumping to a home defeat against the Hawks, the Bucks resumed their winning ways on the road with a bizarre come-from-behind win over the previously red-hot Rockets, snapping Houston's seven-game winning streak while extending their road streak to three games.
Unfortunately, part of what made the Bucks' win so unlikely could also spell bad news going forward. After helping the Bucks streak to a 12-0 start, Andrew Bogut sprained his ankle after landing awkwardly following a challenged shot. Though the big man limped off to the locker room under his own power, he was quickly ruled out for the rest of the game and his status remains unclear for Friday night's tilt in Chicago. Here we go again?
But let's ignore the potentially bad and focus on the good for now. After watching Kevin Martin (29 pts on 22 shots) help the Rockets surge to a 51-42 halftime advantage and lead by double-digits in the third quarter, the Bucks suddenly found their touch--and then some--at the end of the third. Riding the hot hands of reserves Mike Dunleavy (18 points on 11 shots) and Stephen Jackson (20 points on 16 shots), Milwaukee reeled off an absurd 20-0 run to lead by as many as 17 in the fourth before hanging on in the final minute.
And while Brandon Jennings (20 pts on 16 shots, 6 ast, 1 to) quietly outdueled Kyle Lowry (6 pts on 16 shots, 10 ast, 8 reb) in the game's marquee matchup, this win was really about the Bucks' depth outlasting the Rockets' superior starting five. Milwaukee's eight subs outscored Kevin McHale's short three-man bench by a staggering 66-15 margin, including 48-4 in the second half as the Bucks outscored the Rockets overall by a 63-48 margin.
It was neither predictable nor pretty, but for a Bucks team just trying to survive a brutal January? Just call it a win.
Following a hot start, Bogut's departure with 2:31 remaining in the first seemed to immediately deflate the Bucks, who struggled to contain Lowry's penetration as the Rockets began finding open looks all over the court. They missed most of them (39% in the first half), but 12 offensive rebounds helped fuel a 38-22 Houston run after Bogut's injury.
The Bucks didn't look particularly likely to turn things around early in the third, but Houston continued to struggle from the perimeter, and the Bucks continued to hang around thanks largely to three triples from Jennings. It still didn't seem like Milwaukee was a serious threat to actually win, but that mindset might have been Houston's undoing. Trailing 70-66, Dunleavy and Beno Udrih shook off their shooting slumps to bury their own threes and give the Bucks an unlikely 72-70 lead heading into the decisive frame. But could they actually hold on?
Surprisingly, yes. The all-reserve lineup of Udrih, Jackson, Dunleavy, Ilyasova and Larry Sanders (he played! and pretty well!) ripped off a further 14-0 spurt in the first 3:05 of the fourth quarter, and Jackson and Dunleavy continued to rain jumpers even after Martin and impressive rookie Chandler Parsons started to come alive for Houston. But the Rockets wouldn't be contained for too long; the Bucks seemed to go into a prevent defense of sorts (we all know how that works), and Milwaukee predictably became overly concerned with using up the shot clock at the expense of creating make-able shots.
Thankfully, the Rockets were still a bit too careless to complete their own comeback. Dragic's layup trimmed the lead to 98-94 with just 74 seconds remaining, but Drew Gooden (of all people) intercepted Dragic's attempted drive-and-kick and subsequently hit both free throws to help ice the game with under 30 seconds left.
Three Bucks
Mike Dunleavy. Dunleavy typically doesn't smile much (read: ever) on the court, but not even the usually stoic former Duke star could contain a smile and laugh after burying his first three of the game late in the third. Two earlier misses from deep had run Dunleavy's three-point futility streak to an incredible 0/15 since returning from injury last Friday, so finally seeing a shot fall seemed to serve as a weight off his shoulders. Mike scored 12 of his season-high 18 points in the game's final 12:33, including a trio of triples that had been a long time coming.
Ersan Ilyasova. The Bucks were pounded on the boards for much of the night, including a 35-22 deficit in the first half. But Ilyasova kept things respectable all on his own, tearing down a career-best 19 rebounds in 28 minutes. Sure, we'd all love to see Jon Leuer getting more regular minutes, but at the moment Ilyasova is earning his time and then some. Drew Gooden... well, not quite so much.
Stephen Jackson. So maybe this bench thing could work out after all? A game after taking just a single shot against the Hawks, Jax scored nine of his 20 in the fourth quarter and diligently defended Lowry (with Jennings guarding Goran Dragic) for much of the fourth. That's now two wins out of three with Jackson coming off the bench, though the more important fact is that Jackson has closed out all three. Something tells me that--along with winning--is much more important to him.
Three Numbers
14/29. The long ball won it for Milwaukee, which curiously made more triples than free throws (13/17) for the first time this season.
66-15. Jackson and Dunleavy did most of the scoring damage off the bench, but every Buck played and all but Leuer scored.
20. The Bucks' 20-0 run starting at the end of the third was the game's clear turning point. And four late free throws from Jennings helped the Bucks' scoring leader crack the 20-point mark for a career-high fifth straight game.
Three Good
Depth. Jennings (33 minutes) was the only Buck starter who played more than 20 minutes, which worked out only because Skiles got starter-caliber performances from one-time starters Jackson, Dunleavy and Ilyasova.
Sticking it out. The rumormill will tell you that the Bucks are a dysfunctional bunch whose established leader/best player (I think Bogut still qualifies?) hasn't been seeing eye to eye with his coach. The standings will tell you that the Bucks are barely in the playoff picture with little chance of moving up much further than the 7th spot in the East.
And yet you couldn't help but smile while watching one of Skiles' more random combinations pull off an improbable fourth quarter run, stealing another road win against one of the league's hottest clubs. We can debate the true potential of the current Bucks' roster until we're blue in the face, but winning still seems pretty fun to me.
Streaking. The Bucks won four straight home games to start the season, but have now lost two straight at the BC. They lost eight straight road games to start the season, but have now won three straight. Go figure. The Bucks are now tied with the Cavs for the 8th spot in the East at 7-10, trailing the Celtics (7-9) by a half game and leading the Knicks (7-11) by a similarly narrow margin.
Three Bad
Bogut's health. Gery Woelfel tweets Bogut could miss a couple games with his latest injury, the latest in the ever-expanding list of injuries suffered by the Bucks' big man. Bogut is expected to have an MRI tomorrow, but his status for Friday's game in Chicago and Saturday's game against the Lakers at home are in major doubt.
Surviving January. The Bucks haven't done it yet, and losing Bogut won't make this weekend's games against Rose and Kobe any easier.
Youngsters. The only downside of a healthy roster? A sudden lack of minutes for the Bucks' youngsters. Tobias Harris and Jon Leuer have gone from regular (and positive) contributors to spectators in about a week, and it's anybody's guess when they'll be back in the mix.
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How the hell did they do that?
The Udrih-led group in the second half was incredible.
New game plan: hit 50% from the arc as a team every game.
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by Steve von Horn on Jan 25, 2012 10:19 PM CST reply actions
Confused
I just don’t understand this team — they don’t follow any kind of pattern or get into any kind of rhythm… except for BJ, he’s consistently making better decisions.
Skiles
doesn’t understand the importance of continuity. He feels it’s better to keep trying diff players/combinations than letting anyone play through it and develop a common ground.
Whoever coached the Bucks tonight did a pretty good job
Wonder who that was?
Shooting well from 3 always gives me mixed feelings. Good for the moment. Breeds a risky offense that looks lame when it misfires.
Good energy again. No sign to me of bad after effects from the Atlanta game. Of course, that fact that is was topsy tonight doesn’t mean it won’t be turvy on Friday. NBA basketball is unpredictable. A cynic (we have none here, right?) might say that suggests it’s too often meaningless.
It was just that everybody did what they were supposed to, and hit their shots.
We had similar lineups vs. Hawks that couldn’t get anything done. Tonight they could. I think it validates for me those Hawks lineups, I had doubted them before.
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by TwoShoesMcGooze on Jan 26, 2012 8:13 AM CST up reply actions
In fact, there were rumblings that Skiles intentionally lost that game, for one reason or other.
I think that last-night’s performance makes that seem a lot less likely than it seemed on Monday.
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by TwoShoesMcGooze on Jan 26, 2012 9:21 AM CST up reply actions
the intentional loss hypothesis
always seemed convoluted and unlikely to me
Right, but Dunleavy's performance, for example, restored some faith in my mind that Skiles maybe knows what he is doing.
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by TwoShoesMcGooze on Jan 26, 2012 9:41 AM CST up reply actions
Sure. The faith in my mind is built from the original plans for the yoyo. It goes up and down.
Well, just finished the morning cereal. Time to earn a living.
Damn. Not quite ready to extricate. Yes, it seems to be good strategy by Skiles to let Dunleavy work his way out of that 3-point funk. But relying on Mike in crunch time of the Atlanta game may not have been genius. Too much pressure in too short a time, before Dunleavy’s ice had begun to break. The Houston game, on the other hand, gave Mike a whole game to crawl out of the funk.
Of course, asking genius of a coach may not be fair.
Bogut on his ankle
From the J-S:
“It wasn’t good,” Bogut said. "I knew when I came down I was in some trouble. Keeping optimistic, everything’s fine with the X-ray, but that’s to be expected. I know I didn’t break a bone.
“But tomorrow’s the day of reckoning where I go under the MRI machine and find out my fate.”
The best-case scenario would be a severely sprained ankle, but even that would be likely to sideline Bogut for a week or more.
“Once we know what the diagnosis is, we’ll know how to treat it,” Bogut said. "But it’s going to be ice-massage, ice-massage, ice-massage.
“I’m not optimistic. With my history of unlucky injuries I’m hoping this one can do me a favor and (go away). Most of my injuries are unfortunate things and this goes in the same boat as that. It’s frustrating.”
Bogut said if he gets some good news “hopefully it would be a week thing. We’ll see what happens.”
Might be the first ever time I've heard a player say he's "not optimistic" about an injury...
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by TwoShoesMcGooze on Jan 26, 2012 8:11 AM CST up reply actions
I wonder how much outlook affects his recovery process?
by MadTown Hoops on Jan 26, 2012 9:30 AM CST up reply actions
I'm not sure if that is sarcastic or not, but it probably affects it substantially.
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by TwoShoesMcGooze on Jan 26, 2012 9:32 AM CST up reply actions
Well... I'd honestly rather have him miss games we are expected to lose with him anyways...
We really need him more for those toss-up type of games that will ultimately determine our playoff fate…
Not sure if he qualifies on either count
The rumormill will tell you that the Bucks are a dysfunctional bunch whose established leader/best player (I think Bogut still qualifies?) hasn’t been seeing eye to eye with his coach.
Best player, not so far this year, leader is kind of iffy too, maybe Jax is taking that position.
"He always plays like he's a pit bull that hasn't been fed in about a year and that you've got pork chops in your pockets and that's the basketball." Of course, he's Canadian
Bogut SHOULD be the team's best player
but right now it’s Jennings, and it’s not even close. Bogut’s not even second to him; that would be Shaun Livingston.
http://twitter.com/WhalesLarry ...but only if you want to see someone still trying to figure Twitter out.
by Mitchell Maurer on Jan 26, 2012 7:26 AM CST up reply actions
MORE IMPORTANTLY...
“Doesn’t see eye to eye with his coach.” Where did that come from?
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by TwoShoesMcGooze on Jan 26, 2012 8:09 AM CST up reply actions
it was a consensus view
At RealGM. Moderator included. Don’t know if someone there had inside info or not.
Some of their consensus views are 100% arbitrary.
What article, if you please?
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by TwoShoesMcGooze on Jan 26, 2012 8:22 AM CST up reply actions
I hate it
When people act nice then I can’t ignore what they ask of me. I’m gamed. Wonder if Machiavelli was nice?
This bluster is to hide that I don’t know how to answer your question. Or, phrased alternatively, am not quite willing to take the big chunk of time it would take to make a serious attempt to answer it. In the gnashing & wailing following the Skiles end-of-game lineup debacle, several posters claimed knowledge that one player – and they thought him to be Bogut – had troubles with Skiles. A moderator thought so too.
It was in one or both very active threads at that time. They are:
“PG: Skiles is on the STEALTH TANK?? "
“Gery Woelfel on WSSP (Tuesday morning 8:00am CST) "
The 2nd one for sure; the 1st I might have wrong. But they total approx 800 posts, so the detective work may be tedious. (There may be a way to search their archives but I don’t know how.)
Did the info have solid attribution? No, I don’t think it did. But the people who said it sounded sure of themselves.
Not sure I’m entitled to my own view after such a slipshod answer. Here it is anyway. I think Skiles in his passive bullying way has been trying to force Bogut to be more productive, tougher, and more consistent. Bogut probably isn’t fond of bullying. And likely doesn’t think he’s the source of the major Bucks problems. There’s probably some trouble on both sides.
Woelfel has been alluding to Bogut/Skiles friction on his last couple WSSP calls.
Click on the word “rumormill” in the article above—that’s a link to the mp3 audio.
by Frank Madden on Jan 26, 2012 9:24 AM CST up reply actions
^^^ Yeah I traced it back to Woelfel on Real GM, thanks unk
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by TwoShoesMcGooze on Jan 26, 2012 9:33 AM CST up reply actions
Yahoo! Sports' current team report is particularly bleak
I don’t see it, but if it comes down to Bogut and Jackson or Skiles, I’ll go with the coach every time. Bogut had potential, but he’s a middling big with serious health issues at this point. If this is him before thirty, I don’t want to see the rest. He can’t even outplay Samuel Dalembert for one game in his entire career.
by MadTown Hoops on Jan 26, 2012 9:34 AM CST up reply actions
For bitter or for worse...
I’ve come to think of Bogut as a loose bag of bones. He seems the kind of loose-jointed guy whose muscles don’t do enough to prevent injury. As he moves into middle age, that general weakness gets worse.
Pretty soon he’s going to look like a guy who belongs on a YMCA basketball court at lunch time.
Those guys are brutal...
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by TwoShoesMcGooze on Jan 26, 2012 9:54 AM CST up reply actions
You have me at a disadvantage
I’ve never been good enough to play Y basketball. Don’t have a measure on their brutality.
Back when I lived in the Inner City of Milwaukee I used to (as an adult) get into games with the neighborhood kids. Not because I had game; because I had a basketball. I didn’t have a shot; I didn’t have inner city quickness. But I had a ball. And I tried to make my contribution with defense.
There were two sisters who sometimes played. Upper teens. Stylish. Good. Probably on their high school teams. In one game, the oldest (and most regal; impressive reserve and cool) was one-on-oneing me. And I was jumping around like a madman, trying to anticipate her moves, trying to bother her dribble. Thought I might be making a fool of myself. Said to her: “I’m not trying to be a jerk. Just trying to play defense.” She said: “I know. You’re doing OK. If you were being a jerk, I wouldn’t play against you.”
That’s all she or I said. And it lead to nothing. But it may have been the basketball highlight of my life.
by unklchuk on Jan 26, 2012 10:15 AM CST up reply actions 3 recs
My other memory of inner city basketball
…was the day I took my ball to an empty school playground. 3 teens joined me for a brief game. One of them put a move on me that I wasn’t nowhere close to handling. The top of his head opened a gash over my eyebrow. Well, I had to live with moving like a glacier, but I could be tough. So I kept playing. After a minute or so, the quick guy, looking at the blood, stopped. Handed me my ball. Said “You should have that cut looked at.” And left the court.
That may not mean much. But to me it was an example of a young man expressing himself eloquently in the simplest of ways. Looking out for me, while practicing the reserve that was so commonplace in the inner city between strangers of different races.
Yeah, the YMCA guys aren't quick either...
That’s why they’re all elbows, man. All elbows.
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by TwoShoesMcGooze on Jan 26, 2012 10:35 AM CST up reply actions
I do know what you mean, I guess
They’re like some guys at the bottom of football rosters. They know, everyone knows, they don’t have talent. So they boost their status slightly by being as mean as they can get away with.
I guess that shows they have heart. Guess they’re noble in an ignoble way.
This is almost literature, Chuk
Enjoyed them a lot. Your writing is enhancing the possibilities of this media. Your writing is becoming to blogs commenting what The Sopranos or The Wire shows are to TV.
I grew up on the east side and played against several inner city kids
Those stories sound familiar
Up until a few years ago...
I played a block from where I grew up, at a Catholic grade school, every Sunday night. During the NBA season, and while he was still on the Bucks, guess who showed up with a few friends to play? None other than Shawn Respert. I stole the ball from one of his friends, and Respert, from the sidelines, blurted out “That dude picked you, dog” ….I will never forget it.
ups and downs and ups
I was feeling pretty good about how we were playing and then bogut went down. The 2nd quarter convinced me this game was lost. But the end of the 3rd and the beginning of the 4th quarter was a kind of thrilling domination I hadn’t seen from the Bucks in a long time. I think I should stop expecting and just watch!
Running the clock down was absolutely the right thing to do there...
The Bucks missed all of their shots on those “rundown” possessions, and still won. It’s about the time left, and there was too little of it for the Rockets. No real need to press to score, you knew they’d start fouling. Idk I just wasn’t nervous at the end.
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by TwoShoesMcGooze on Jan 26, 2012 8:08 AM CST reply actions
"I think I should stop expecting and just watch!"
Somebody should sig that.
Despite the scent of cynicism in my earlier post, the games do mean something. They just don’t mean much when taken out of context. And, in context, they mean less that face value.
Loss of Bogut for weeks (if the sprain is the bad kind) seems to mean season without much of an upside. But who knows? These are the Bucks.
"somebody should sig that"?
do you mean somebody should SIGN that or what?
I just meant it was a nice brief statement containing truth.
Worth being someone’s slogan statement. “Sig” for signature.
Almost nobody on here has one, anyways.
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by TwoShoesMcGooze on Jan 26, 2012 9:34 AM CST up reply actions
Somebody asked Zach Greinke what he wanted most.
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by TwoShoesMcGooze on Jan 26, 2012 9:55 AM CST up reply actions
Hey, BrewHoopers
Does Frank laugh like that in real life?
Or does his being stranded in Boston mean you don’t know?
Only Alex, Steve and Dan can comment
In truth I’d say my laugh is pretty obnoxious…
by Frank Madden on Jan 26, 2012 11:01 AM CST up reply actions
I'm sure I've made Frank laugh on our offseason podcasts, chuk.
See all the little things you could get from those? :)
That reminds me….need to get those up again at some point.
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by Steve von Horn on Jan 26, 2012 12:12 PM CST up reply actions
And the comment blog?
"He always plays like he's a pit bull that hasn't been fed in about a year and that you've got pork chops in your pockets and that's the basketball." Of course, he's Canadian
by CanadaBucks on Jan 26, 2012 12:53 PM CST up reply actions
In progress.
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by Steve von Horn on Jan 26, 2012 1:15 PM CST up reply actions
I actually think it might be time to change.
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by TwoShoesMcGooze on Jan 26, 2012 11:17 AM CST up reply actions
The next lurker who posts here for the first time
…will be entered in a contest to win an Andrew Bogut plaster cast. Yes, there are a number of these casts, but it still makes a very nice memento or gift.
The cast in a previous contest was awarded to a gentleman from Madagascar who reports that he’s installed it as the centerpiece in a shrine to the God of FallingDown. We’ve requested pictures, but he says the god is shy. And wishes to save his 15 minutes of fame for Spring.
by unklchuk on Jan 26, 2012 10:57 AM CST reply actions 3 recs
Can I get that cast?
…I would love to put it next to Joe Wolf’s shoes. Yes, I have a signed pair of Joe Wolfs shoes.
Awesome.
What kind of shoes did Joe Wolf actually wear? And did he offer up much resistance when you plucked them from his feet?
by Frank Madden on Jan 26, 2012 12:20 PM CST up reply actions
I'll get a picture eventually.
I honestly have no idea what kind of shoes he wore. They’ve been sitting in my closet for years. He offered up very little resistance actually. In fact, I won them in a raffle back in the late 90s (when he was still playing). His sister lives in my town so he donated them to our raffle or something.
We have an entrant... Others?
Frank will have to verify. Or maybe Steve, since he’s a CPA. But the entrant certainly sounds legit to me.
But for it to be a contest, there have to be more entries… Contest doesn’t close until the end of the Bucks Bulls game.
Steve's a CPA?
Geez I thought he was a law-yer
"He always plays like he's a pit bull that hasn't been fed in about a year and that you've got pork chops in your pockets and that's the basketball." Of course, he's Canadian
Oh I thought you meant a real CPA
Oh well.
"He always plays like he's a pit bull that hasn't been fed in about a year and that you've got pork chops in your pockets and that's the basketball." Of course, he's Canadian
I seek a way to distinguish my facts from my fiction. Still looking.
Be nice if the fiction could start out looking like fact and then 5 or 10 seconds after reading, it would turn green or turn italic or blink obnoxiously or something. Not much fun in saying fiction things if they’re obvious from the get go. Foolishness is especially foolish if it doesn’t have the temporary ring of reality.
You know, I really feel sorry for the guy.
I feel sorry for us too, though. Kind of crazy how one injury has changed the course of the franchise drastically, to the point where it might have been the difference between even having a franchise 3+ years down the line. Butterfly effect, in your face style.
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by TwoShoesMcGooze on Jan 26, 2012 11:31 AM CST reply actions
It sounds like a bit going on behind the scenes
But do have to give the guys some credit for winning a few games lately which could have gotten away from us.
Guys...it's a sprained ankle
Hardly an indication of being injury prone…it must be about the most common injury in basketball…talk to Steph Curry about it.
And we won the last game without him..against a team that had won 6 or 7 straight…in their gym…on the back of a guy pulling in 19 boards who is regularly floated as trade bait.
We almost beat Atlanta in a playoff series without #6 for crying out loud…when he was arguably a much bigger part of the team’s success.
No Bogut = more minutes for the PF logjam…maybe someone starts playing to potential and the Bucks ramp it up. Or at least we get to some more mind-bending “plays” from Drew Gooden.
He will be probably be back in two weeks max, the Bucks will be like 11 and 15 and we can all remind ourselves how our team is likely in exactly the same spot as before.
It sucks being an optimist. Or at least indulging in Bucks-type optimism. I can’t decide whether this post is half-full or half-empty.
I'm glad for optimism (grounded in at least a little fact)
But not all sprains are minor. For instance, one kind (a high functioning sprain or some such) has a projected out time of 4-6 weeks. With the short season, that would be unfortunate.
Bucks are apparently still waiting on the MRI results.
Yeah I nuked my ankle in a game in a similar fashion once...
Admittedly I am not 7" 260, but I was on crutches for a couple of weeks and couldnt really play freely for at least 4…only a sprain too.
I had forgotten about that…minor optimism evaporation…
s'ok
Will just sit around waiting for Gooden to throw an alleyoop to himself off the referee’s face from the half-court or similar…I don’t mind losing if we are doing it in style.
"Losing in Style" = Gooden's new nickname?
LiS? OK, I try way too hard to come up with overly verbose nicknames that would never be practical…yet they amuse me so…
by Frank Madden on Jan 26, 2012 5:11 PM CST up reply actions
That's nice work, Frank.
Drewlis. Rolls off the tongue.
Too negative tho? There’s gotta be a bit of love left for our favourite journeyman on BrewHoop surely…?
Off topic - Part of Argentinian Olympic Squad named
Not a surprise but Carlitos makes the team -
http://au.sports.yahoo.com/basketball/news/article/-/12736019/argentina-mens-basketball-squad/
Like it how the Argentinian coaches just swapped roles from head coach to assistant..can you see that happening in Milwaukee…
Check the trade FanPost
FTD traded Carlos to Houston to join Scola so they could be on two teams together.
"He always plays like he's a pit bull that hasn't been fed in about a year and that you've got pork chops in your pockets and that's the basketball." Of course, he's Canadian
Yes
I think the idea is that Dunleavy is Delfino so you kind of have duplication there, plus it might free up time for Tobias. We have a big body who maybe can play some for us. Brockman is vig.
"He always plays like he's a pit bull that hasn't been fed in about a year and that you've got pork chops in your pockets and that's the basketball." Of course, he's Canadian
This whole thing is fiction — not fact. Right?
RealGM’s news ticker has no story on any trade. [Turn about is unfair play; respect your senior citizens…]
FTD as in
The poster with the name FearTheDeer so it’s absolute and utter fiction.
"He always plays like he's a pit bull that hasn't been fed in about a year and that you've got pork chops in your pockets and that's the basketball." Of course, he's Canadian
Aye - fantasy trading only
If Thabeet has come so far that we woulod be interested in him, why would Houston want to trade him? Intriguing idea though. Giving up a reasonably athletic, streaky shooting swingman and Brockman’s occasional tomahawk jams for 6 fouls and blown dunks would be frustrating…unless he has really developed.
I like Dunleavy and stats wise I am sure it makes some kind of sense but yeah, as above would miss the swagger, hot streaks and the occasional facial he deals out…Carlos is an energy guy…when he gets rolling he can get the team and the arena pumping, swing momentum.
I am not sure I have ever seen Dunleavy attempt to get above the rim.
Not really great criteria in this instance for analyzing this potential trade on my part I must admit. I am more of an ‘eye test’ than solid basketball sense guy sometimes. A failing of sorts.
Houston did not chose to pick up Thabeet's option
Whether that means they want to resign him at a lower price or have in interest any more, who knows. If they would make that trade as we need a big boday and if he ever “got it” we would have some sort of right to him wouldn’t we? FWIW I don’t think Carlos will be back next year anyway.
"He always plays like he's a pit bull that hasn't been fed in about a year and that you've got pork chops in your pockets and that's the basketball." Of course, he's Canadian
I meant to say to
Remember some listers got excited about Earl Barron last year, Thabeet must be in the same class as Earl anyway.
"He always plays like he's a pit bull that hasn't been fed in about a year and that you've got pork chops in your pockets and that's the basketball." Of course, he's Canadian
Ah....
That would put a different complexion on it I guess.
If Carlos is gonna bail/be surplus to requirements (I am not up to speed on his contract situation) then yeah it makes a lot more sense. Would suck to see him go though.
Earl – he can drain a three I guess. Didn’t another team just pick him up?
Are you thinking Earl Boykins?
because earl barron’s range is likely about 4 1/2 feet. But he is with Phoenix.
"He always plays like he's a pit bull that hasn't been fed in about a year and that you've got pork chops in your pockets and that's the basketball." Of course, he's Canadian
Originally in the "Possible Bucks Trades" Topic
which is probably more appropriate because its all hypothetical BS. The keys to this trade idea was
Brockman is a bench riding, roster spot occupying, tight end
Delfino is an expiring, contributing redundancy in MKE
Houston wants cap space in the offseason and currently wants a starting SF Thabeet is a bench riding, declined option having, D Leaguer in HOU
Milwaukee could use a 7’5" expiring, lane clogging, foul-making, D Leaguer, better than nothing back-up C while Bogut is either injured or sick or struggling or in Australia or resting.
I like this deal
It is low risk and I think it might open up burn for Tobias, which is important to me, maybe not Skiles though.
"He always plays like he's a pit bull that hasn't been fed in about a year and that you've got pork chops in your pockets and that's the basketball." Of course, he's Canadian
Aaaaargh! Stupid Bucks!!
They’re going to screw me again!
Just when I thought an implosion was inevitable [but still might happen] they go and win a damn game – against a pretty good team!
Every victory will postpone any real change…. Management/coaches/players all seem to be content with being just a lil under .500. Again. For like the 20th year. [big sigh]
Bogut's injury
the one good thing that could come from a month or so long Bogut injury is that Hammond would finally have to be aggressive about getting a back-up C.
Bogut
GeryWoelfel Gery Woelfel
Andrew Bogut will be out indefinitely … At least 2 weeks.
It sucks that if we were trying to trade him
that makes it tougher.
"He always plays like he's a pit bull that hasn't been fed in about a year and that you've got pork chops in your pockets and that's the basketball." Of course, he's Canadian
The news doesn't leave me speechless
A serious bogut injury? Hardly the stuff of surprise.
But I don’t have much to say.
I don’t see a course of action that offers anything worth savoring. Don’t see Hammond moving vets for a tank. Don’t see the team “redefining” itself and rising to FTD winning.
Maybe the best I see is Skiles/Hammond facing the reality, concentrating on playing the young players because nothing else contributes to our development. And that the young players play hard with spirit and are kinda fun to watch while they mostly lose. I could enjoy some of that. Not the full measure, but definitely some.
I mention Pryz not because he’s now a bright hope. Probably he isn’t. Will he now want in, as a starter? Would he help much? Is he healthy? It’s possible he could become a feel good story. Make us “average” at center; maybe even a run at the 8th or 7th playoff spot. Doesn’t seem likely.
A “desperate” trade that yields an average center by giving up future assets? Not interested; hope Kohl isn’t either, but one never knows.
If feels like this is the kind of situation that is made for the team’s front office temperament. Admit nothing and wait stoically for the season to come to an end (unless they’re making Win Now trades). I dislike their predilection to do that.
I have no better advice.

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