Andrew Bogut Suffers Broken Ankle, Out Indefinitely
by Dan Sinclair on Jan 26, 2012 6:47 PM CST
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PrintJohn Hammond announced this afternoon that Andrew Bogut suffered a left ankle fracture during Wednesday night's game against the Houston Rockets. Bogut underwent an MRI this morning which revealed the fracture.
Bogut landed on the ankle of Houston's Kyle Lowry after attempting to block a shot in the first quarter. He immediately limped off the court and returned with a protective boot and crutches for support.
Bogut, who has been plagued in the past by back and elbow problems as well as occasional bouts with migraine headaches, has played more than 70 games in a season just twice in his NBA career.
With Bogut out, the Bucks will likely start Drew Gooden at center as they address whether a more permanent solution is necessary. Bogut's absence should also mean more regular minutes for youngsters Jon Leuer and Larry Sanders, both of whom have found minutes increasingly difficult to come by with the Bucks at full strength. And while discussions regarding the backup center position have cooled since the offseason, there are a number of free-agent big men who could be targeted by Milwaukee to fill the role until Bogut's return, including the much-discussed Joel Przybilla and former Jazz big man Kyrylo Fesenko.
While Bogut has struggled offensively over the season's first month, the Bucks have also been dramatically better with him (7-5 including Monday's win) than without him (0-5), raising the obvious question of whether Scott Skiles' team can meaningfully compete for a playoff spot with Bogut on the shelf for an extended period. While many fans have questioned the team's long-term potential as currently constructed, the Bucks have made no secret of their playoff hopes following a disappointing 35-win season a year ago. But they've endured an uneven start to the campaign thus far, and their resolve will only be further tested if they continue to struggle without their star center.
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Tough break for him and the Bucks
Larry Sanders has to step up this year and we’ll need all we can get from Leur. I felt like this could be the comeback season for the Bucks with the horrible play of the Knicks and Celts. It’s like we’ll never see the true potential of this team
Agreed with mufin1man
I would give Sanders all the run he can handle. This way we would know if he is for real. He collects fouls like dead but at least he is the one who really fits ‘center’ description on current Bucks’ squad
Okay, I don't mean to be harsh...
But can we officially call him a bust now? An absolute bust. He has gone from #1 overall pick to having almost no value. Sanders or Ilyasova.
A samurai sword collection. If you can do it. I don’t know if you’re allowed.
by TwoShoesMcGooze on Jan 26, 2012 7:04 PM CST reply actions
Ummm... no, we can't call him a bust because he came down on someones ankle...
We’re all bummed about Boguts injury history, but they are of the “fluke” variety. [at least the major ones]
Sure, he’s never been the dominant player that you’d hope from the #1 pick – but that’s how some drafts go….
Some drafts you get Kwame, some drafts you get Shaq, and some drafts you get someone in between.
I can’t call him a bust, but I would call him a minor disappointment.
by victor s on Jan 26, 2012 7:12 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
He was the #1 overall pick. He's a bust.
You expect a whole hell of a lot more than you’ve gotten out of Bogut, especially for a franchise in the smallest media market who is now dwindling due to not having a star player. When you pick #1 overall and you’re in a market like the Bucks, you have to hit on it. He can’t be a “productive when healthy” player, he needs to be a star or at least an all-star caliber player.
I honestly hate the whole “fluke” thing. Yes, the horrific elbow injury WAS a fluke, but other injuries like this happen often, and all injuries are “bad luck” but there’s a difference between an injury and injury-prone. Bogut has become injury prone. Anywhere from his back, to his elbow, to his migraines, to this ankle injury. It’s just ALWAYS something with Bogut.
He very well could come back from this and keep improving, but after 7 years, you have to declare him a bust honestly.
Grillax people
Bogut was the worst type of #1 pick...
He is good enough to keep us on the mediocrity treadmill but not good enough to ever get us off…
I hear ya, jm.
Missing on the #1 pick certainly stings more for a franchise like Milw, than it does for many others – However, I just can’t put the bust label on him.
But after 3 or 4 yrs, it’s more the fault of the franchise for over-estimating his abilities, IMO.
I guess it depends on one’s definition of “bust”
I personally can’t call a career double/double guy a bust, that’s just me.
But I totally see how others can….
yeah, he isn't a bust... he just isn't a franchise player which is what you are hoping for when you pick that high...
I know we had TJ Ford but it would have been nice to take CP3 or Deron Williams in that draft…
If he's a bust now, then he's been a bust all along
This isn’t anything different from Bogut. Giving 14 pts and 10 rebs per game for a short stint before getting injured, then coming back and doing the same thing over again. He’s been a bust for a top pick since like 2 years ago. But had he been picked in the back end of the lottery (10-14) he’d still be considered a pretty good selection.
Tajh Boyd and Dre' Ellington are the future.
Brandon Jennings; Just keep waiting people.
by BlackPack-fan on Jan 26, 2012 7:13 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Exactly. Really sad.
A samurai sword collection. If you can do it. I don’t know if you’re allowed.
by TwoShoesMcGooze on Jan 26, 2012 7:22 PM CST up reply actions
Let's temper the bust talk ...
I am certain Bogut feels like crap right now.
As much as I want this yrs team to fail, I hate to see a player get hurt....
Especially Bogues, who seems to be “snake-bit”…
But I’m also intrigued w/ the idea of Gooden getting serious mpg at C – mainly because if he plays well, he’ll be the Bucks back-up C for the next few yrs behind AB – and that would be one less large question mark for this team.
At this point, Gooden doesn’t seem to be the Bucks PF of the future ; )
Also...
Not having a backup C for Andrew Bogut is pretty laughable. I mean, it’s Andrew Bogut. I’m sure he is in the top 5 most injured players the last few years.
A samurai sword collection. If you can do it. I don’t know if you’re allowed.
by TwoShoesMcGooze on Jan 26, 2012 7:05 PM CST reply actions
Also...
Tank.
A samurai sword collection. If you can do it. I don’t know if you’re allowed.
by TwoShoesMcGooze on Jan 26, 2012 7:06 PM CST reply actions
I have to agree considering there appears to be a lot of talented big men coming out next year.
And now we need a big man…
Grillax people
Kind of what I said when it happened. I'm completely done with this guy in terms of a franchise player
Unfortunate or not, it’s an injury, and he’s just injury prone no matter what it seems to be.
He’s a great guy, truly respects the city of Milwaukee and the fans but the guy has just been a complete bust. He’s the epitome of 1 step forward 2 steps back. Except for him it seems to be 3.
Grillax people
Tank is rolling....
trade Jackson, trade Ersan, trade Delfino, trade Udrih, trade Gooden, trade Dunleavy.
Start Jennings/Livingston/Harris/Leuer/Sanders
If Hammond screws this up….I’ll______
Ok
ersan and Delfino are tradeable, Dunleavy and Udrih maybe Jackson and gooden….good luck there
"He always plays like he's a pit bull that hasn't been fed in about a year and that you've got pork chops in your pockets and that's the basketball." Of course, he's Canadian
Completely disagree
Jackson would be very easy to trade, despite how the Bucks fans feel about it. Dunleavy and Udrih wouldn’t be hard either. Gooden is the only immovable piece. The more reasonable question is what we would want in return. All I’m asking for is expiring contracts. But I think several of those names including Ersan and Jackson could get at least a mid to late 1st.
I'm just saying the people you can trade
We had him traded this afternoon to Houston though, making the Rockets Buenos Aires North.
"He always plays like he's a pit bull that hasn't been fed in about a year and that you've got pork chops in your pockets and that's the basketball." Of course, he's Canadian
By we I mean the bloggers
"He always plays like he's a pit bull that hasn't been fed in about a year and that you've got pork chops in your pockets and that's the basketball." Of course, he's Canadian
I know you did
but for me the real deal is having Scola here. Brewhoop is a much better blog than the Rocket´s one. And so far, I grew to like Milwaukee people: (and Canadians, even if they´re not big fans of Carlos).
Now that Andrew is gone, anyone interested in having Oberto? Argentina´s coach told him to play if he wants to go to the Olympic games…(Just joking).
This isn't an easy team to blow up
The point of blowing up a team IMO is to get young assets/picks in exchange for guys who can only help short-term. But who on the Bucks can even bring back picks/young assets? I don’t see them trading Jennings and Bogut’s value is once again in the tank, while everyone else is either young or not particularly valuable in a trade. Seems like most moves would be fairly peripheral.
by Frank Madden on Jan 26, 2012 9:14 PM CST up reply actions
Maybe not with one ell swoop, as with dynamite ....
But gradual …..it has to happen …there is no nirvana with this team …none
Guhhhhh
The bust talk is pointless and only serves to get people riled up. Not only is Bogut a class act and a top-notch defender (albeit late blooming), but he’s one of the very few players in the last 5 years who actually tried to improve as a player. Don’t blame him for the franchise’s litany of problems; one guy can only do so much.
If he’s a bust because his draft slot doesn’t match your expectations for that slot, then you’re only disappointing yourself. He has worked to be the best player he can be, and the franchise thought he would be the best fit for the team long-term. That’s all you can ask of a player, and the fact that he was the first choice is largely unimportant.
And yes, injuries are a concern, but what else is new? People get hurt, and big men carrying a lot of weight and who come into contact with similarly sized men are at a higher risk of injury. The only center I can recall not having any major injuries in his career is Dwight Howard, who is a physical freak.
The man is who he is, both to himself and the team. Wasting time applying labels that don’t have a real effect on anything is just that: a waste of time. Hope he gets better and (someday) contributes to a winning Bucks team.
http://twitter.com/WhalesLarry ...but only if you want to see someone still trying to figure Twitter out.
by Mitchell Maurer on Jan 26, 2012 8:19 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
All I have to say to the bust people is look at the defensive rankings and efficiencies with Bogut playing center.
Defense is as important as offense people, and nobody has more defensive value than Bogut. Watch what happens now.
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by Steve von Horn on Jan 26, 2012 8:23 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
PS- This really makes me sad
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by Steve von Horn on Jan 26, 2012 8:23 PM CST up reply actions
That is where I am at, Steve
Sad day, especially for Bogues.
At least it's not a knee or foot issue.
It sounds like he should make a full recovery [provided the Bucks crack medical staff doesn’t rush him back, furthering injury]
Just the cumulative effect of all this ..
How can anybody rely on him? I feel bad for the guy, but this has officially become a pattern.
He's not a bust because of his play on the court
He’s a bust because he can’t stay on it.
Grillax people
If you're defining "bust" as someone whose availability is hampered by injuries
then we’re using different definitions of the term. Availability is important, but his overall improvement as a player prevents him from being a bust, IMO.
http://twitter.com/WhalesLarry ...but only if you want to see someone still trying to figure Twitter out.
by Mitchell Maurer on Jan 27, 2012 1:24 AM CST up reply actions
Agree on almost everything
I.m not so sure Bogut hasn´t some physical problems of his own, surely due to his size. The migraines and all that stuff maybe reveal something. Aside from that,when he´s ok, he is a pleasure to watch and I like him being in the team I root for.
Agreed
I think there was a time when people didn’t like having him called “injury prone”, but I don’t think there’s any other way to put it. However, I seem to remember a graphic at one time from somewhere that showed that he was no more injury prone then many of the other 7 foot centers in the league (with the notable exception of Howard, of course). It’s likely changed since then though. Perhaps it says more about the fragility of centers today then Bogut alone.
by Jacob Grinyer on Jan 26, 2012 9:44 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah... he's played in 408 of 509 regular season games in his career... not bad for center honestly since their bodies are waiting to explode usually...
Losing him for the playoffs two years ago hurt though although that Atlanta series was still super fun…
Seriously though this may not be a tank
And I don’t even really want to tank, let’s see what happens in the next couple weeks this conference is wide open. Gooden and Sanders can hopefully hold the fort, there’s really only Howard in the east, not like there’s tons of good centres around.
"He always plays like he's a pit bull that hasn't been fed in about a year and that you've got pork chops in your pockets and that's the basketball." Of course, he's Canadian
Didn't he say yesterday
he knew it wasn’t broken? Guess I’ll never use Dr. Bogut……….
"He always plays like he's a pit bull that hasn't been fed in about a year and that you've got pork chops in your pockets and that's the basketball." Of course, he's Canadian
Celtics getting thumped again
"He always plays like he's a pit bull that hasn't been fed in about a year and that you've got pork chops in your pockets and that's the basketball." Of course, he's Canadian
I just heard
Wow … I gotta feel bad for the guy right now …no “bust” talk from this dude just yet.
Silver lining???
If Gooden plays well [gulp] JH might see him as the answer as the backup C we all crave, and he’ll somehow get a real PF? [maybe. eventually. maybe]
Or maybe he’ll sign Ersan to an extension ; )
Let's the play out the string ...
Dump who we can, then go into the off season with a new strategy. We need to jettison the mediocrity, and GO YOUNG.
It was meant slightly tonge-in-cheek
But it’s not crazy to think he could put up decent numbers in ABs absence.
He played well at C w/ Dallas, and I do think he’d be an above-average back up C when bogut returns. It seems pretty obvious they don’t view him as the starting PF anymore, anyways.
He could certainly put up some hollow numbers
Which might make it possible to con someone else into taking him on :)
by Frank Madden on Jan 26, 2012 9:15 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Above average back-up centre =???????
There’s about 4 or 5 good centres in the league so an average back-up centre would be earl barron? Aaron gray? You would hope he could do better than those guys ya.
"He always plays like he's a pit bull that hasn't been fed in about a year and that you've got pork chops in your pockets and that's the basketball." Of course, he's Canadian
Nah, guys who can do one or two things well and be 7 feet are all you need in a backup C...
Honestly, I’d rather go small and space the floor than have Gooden in at the 5…
Jennings, Livingston, Delfino, Ersan, Leuer
roll with 5 shooters, space the floor, and see what happens…
Gooden fancies himself a shooter
Some of us would beg to differ
"He always plays like he's a pit bull that hasn't been fed in about a year and that you've got pork chops in your pockets and that's the basketball." Of course, he's Canadian
He actually has really good mechanics and outstanding range
when he puts his mind to it.
That’s always been his issue. Better mental awareness and sounder decisions would have changed his career trajectory for the better.
http://twitter.com/WhalesLarry ...but only if you want to see someone still trying to figure Twitter out.
by Mitchell Maurer on Jan 26, 2012 10:06 PM CST up reply actions
Sometimes he gets fast and loose with his balance, and that gets to me.
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by Steve von Horn on Jan 26, 2012 10:16 PM CST up reply actions
Again, the discipline to go to your limits, not past them
His brain and his body go at different speeds; one is almost always faster than the other.
http://twitter.com/WhalesLarry ...but only if you want to see someone still trying to figure Twitter out.
by Mitchell Maurer on Jan 27, 2012 1:25 AM CST up reply actions
Also his interior d is bad. I would take a sanders/illyasova combo over gooseberry anytime
by liptrill on Jan 27, 2012 5:54 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
The only bigs I trust on D are Moute, Ersan, and Leuer...
I hope they get the majority of the minutes going forward
Leuer?
Do you mean future Leuer? Since he has quickish hands and feet, and has energy. Or do you mean present Leuer? The latter would have you in a minority position…
Leuer has looked good on defense already... he has good fundamentals, is rarely out of position, is athletic, and competes... so i mean current and future Leuer
by Superelkman on Jan 27, 2012 10:50 AM CST up reply actions
Still guessing that's a minority view.
Most explanations for Leuer’s big drop in PT are that Skiles doesn’t like his defense. That he may work hard at individual defense, but doesn’t know team defense.
"doesn't know team defense"
SO MAYBE THE COACHING STAFF SHOULD TEACH HIM. He’s clearly the best option of the available forwards, both now and long-term.
http://twitter.com/WhalesLarry ...but only if you want to see someone still trying to figure Twitter out.
by Mitchell Maurer on Jan 28, 2012 2:03 AM CST up reply actions
"Playoffs.....Playoffs.....What Playoffs..."
The Two Schools of desire collide right here.
Those that desire post play just had their hopes crushed.
Those that wanted to trade everyone, and anyone in a hopes to build a better tomorrow, and /or get a higher draft are now rejoicing.
Without Bogut to man the paint/middle the way he does this team is going to look a whole lot different. And, they won’t have to wait long with Chicago, and L.A.’s front line coming in to see just how ugly this thing can look.
I’m greatly vexed being both a fan of the Aussie, and one who enjoys their team in the post season dance even if it is the seven or eight spot. This truly is a dark day.
(Sanders / Leuer / Gooden)? Good Lord>>>
The news doesn't leave me speechless
A serious bogut injury? Hardly the stuff of surprise.
But I don’t have much to say.
I don’t see a course of action that offers anything worth savoring. Don’t see Hammond moving vets for a tank. Don’t see the team "redefining" itself and rising to FTD winning.
Maybe the best I see is Skiles/Hammond facing the reality, concentrating on playing the young players because nothing else contributes to our development. And that the young players play hard with spirit and are kinda fun to watch while they mostly lose. I could enjoy some of that. Not the full measure, but definitely some.
I mention Pryz not because he’s now a bright hope. Probably he isn’t. Will he now want in, as a starter? Would he help much? Is he healthy? It’s possible he could become a feel good story. Make us "average" at center; maybe even a run at the 8th or 7th playoff spot. Doesn’t seem likely.
A "desperate" trade that yields an average center by giving up future assets? Not interested; hope Kohl isn’t either, but one never knows.
If feels like this is the kind of situation that is made for the team’s front office temperament. Admit nothing and wait stoically for the season to come to an end (unless they’re making Win Now trades). I dislike their predilection to do that.
I have no better advice.
Silver Lining
There were quite a few people who advocated for the Bogut for Horford proposed trade(fan proposed). This is esentially the same thing isn’t it? Bogut’s injury means the same result as trading for Horford who would not have played this year, in essence the opportunity for a quick mini-tank.
"He always plays like he's a pit bull that hasn't been fed in about a year and that you've got pork chops in your pockets and that's the basketball." Of course, he's Canadian
Almost
The 1st thing that would have came with a Bogut for Horford trade would have been the clear intent of our FO to rebuild this team. Now I still don’t know if we will try to win-now. In addition to the age difference.
However, I agree we get a good when healthy player back along with our high lottery pick next season.
I just hope Hammonds
Doesn’t make a panic move i.e. trading our 1st for a centre
"He always plays like he's a pit bull that hasn't been fed in about a year and that you've got pork chops in your pockets and that's the basketball." Of course, he's Canadian
Not his M.O.
but if he does? He better get Dwight Howard, with a 6 year extension, and a letter of intent to stay in Milwaukee signed in blood.
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by Mitchell Maurer on Jan 27, 2012 8:00 AM CST up reply actions
Hope you're right
"He always plays like he's a pit bull that hasn't been fed in about a year and that you've got pork chops in your pockets and that's the basketball." Of course, he's Canadian
I will be pacing in small circles...
…with steam hissing out from my ears, if they make a panic move. And if they sell that to Milwaukee as reflecting their determination to give us some competition this season. Saying stuff like, “Fate may have dealt us a cruel blow, but we’re not going to just sit here and take it. We’re going to give the fans what they deserve.”
IF the move sells a chunk of our future. Makes mediocrity even harder to escape.
BUT… is there a chance that Kohl might say roughly the above, and then add someone good who takes us into The Land of Luxury Tax?
(I’ve never quite figured out if we CAN’T spend into luxury tax or if folks simply assume that we WON’T. Cuban got there; why can’t we? That kind of move, if possible, might surprise and make for interesting basketball.)
It's definitely a "won't"
Kohl simply doesn’t want to spend that kind of money.
http://twitter.com/WhalesLarry ...but only if you want to see someone still trying to figure Twitter out.
by Mitchell Maurer on Jan 27, 2012 8:16 AM CST up reply actions
My edit would be...
“hasn’t wanted to spend that kind of money.”
One might say that things now are dire. It might also be that behind the scenes (the way politicians and patricians do things) there may be Bucks things brewing. (One or two tasty puns there.)
If spending that kind of money preceded a sale of the team (and enhanced the team and its sale because of the successful season) then the cost would make some sense (and be lost in the wash of sale dollars). If a successful season led to a new arena, it might make some sense. (And might be partially a transfer of funds from a donation he might make to a new arena.)
Folks with money are clever. They may have more options than we think. (Or not. Just speculating.)
Fair enough,
But he has NEVER demonstrated any willingness to spend above the tax, and I can’t imagine he’s looking forward to throwing max contract money at a guy when the last one (Redd) worked out so poorly.
Bringing in a high-level player for major dollars would be fine, provided they helped the team. But I can’t see it happening; there’s no candidates available right now, and the ones who are cost too much for Kohl.
http://twitter.com/WhalesLarry ...but only if you want to see someone still trying to figure Twitter out.
by Mitchell Maurer on Jan 27, 2012 9:01 AM CST up reply actions
It's not a big contract I'm worried about
It’s giving up the 1st for a short-term fix at centre. I don’t think Hammond would do it but if there’s pressure to win now?
"He always plays like he's a pit bull that hasn't been fed in about a year and that you've got pork chops in your pockets and that's the basketball." Of course, he's Canadian
that would be
the bad flavor of In Response to Bogut’s Loss move. Steam producing.
I don’t know of any specific moves that would boost us now without dragging us down later, but maybe. After all, there are players teams will give up just to avoid the contract…
or not even the 1st
Like a Aaron Gray for Tobias Harris deal, I’d rather have Erin Gray.
"He always plays like he's a pit bull that hasn't been fed in about a year and that you've got pork chops in your pockets and that's the basketball." Of course, he's Canadian
by CanadaBucks on Jan 27, 2012 10:08 AM CST up reply actions
I'm just saying
I’d rather stand pat then try to get some middling centre.
"He always plays like he's a pit bull that hasn't been fed in about a year and that you've got pork chops in your pockets and that's the basketball." Of course, he's Canadian
by CanadaBucks on Jan 27, 2012 11:23 AM CST up reply actions
"I’d rather have Erin Gray"
I’m thinking Erin is Aaron’s wife, and that they vigorously enjoy an open marriage. But you’re in Canada, so I don’t know what good her coming to Milwaukee would do you. It’s a puzzlement.
I guess you’re saying that adding a middling center (or centre for you French) would worsen the draft pick but not make an interesting season with an interesting result. Si?
Aka Wilma Deering from Buck Rogers
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-284O5nypgY
"He always plays like he's a pit bull that hasn't been fed in about a year and that you've got pork chops in your pockets and that's the basketball." Of course, he's Canadian
by CanadaBucks on Jan 27, 2012 12:46 PM CST up reply actions
+1 to both...
…FearTheDeer and CanadaBucks. Well said.
Bogut for Horford would have signaled clear intent. Would have given us a center I have more confidence in. Could not have been undercut by a panic mode roster move.
Before this break, I felt we were aiming at a mediocrity I could support — as a important step toward squeezing in the playoffs, restoring some credibility to the team, and beginning to deserve general fan attention. Thought that could avoid the team moving. Might if followed by a better season result in finding a buyer to carry on in Milwaukee.
Now I worry that they’ll just aim their sights a notch or two lower. No playoffs with a “valiant” try (mediocre draft pick), or 8th seed with a very quick exit. And that will achieve very little of the above objectives.
They were aiming at half a loaf. If they get half of half a loaf, do they have enough to sustain life?
If Herb Kohl (or his lieutenants) read this
…I hope he’s still lunching at Jake’s Deli (around 20th and North Avenue). Best pastrami I’ve ever had. Authentic place with great, old, not shabby but used feel.
excrement indeed
But, hey, it’s always darkest before the dawn.
Come to reflect, I suppose it’s also darkest before the end of the world.
Well, the sun may explode, which would suggest it might be a while before the darkness set in. Howsoever, I remain confident that darkness is the bottom line. The universe seems to like darkness.
So… dawn or doom — take your pick.
I still say
Go after one of Orlando’s backup C’s… They recently declined Daniel Orton, and they have to decide whether to pay Ryan Anderson or Dwight Howard (and Anderson is restricted btw)
Who turned the light's out?? Because I don't see nobody!
I don’t know anything about Orton’s situation other than the fact that he has an injury history and hasn’t played…personally I feel like if we want to roll dice on youngsters then we might as well just give Sanders and Leuer more minutes.
As far as Anderson, I like him and he could be a good fit next to someone like Bogut, but he’s not a solution to the center problem.
by Frank Madden on Jan 27, 2012 11:23 AM CST up reply actions
As far as Bogut goes
I’m frustrated, but not totally surprised. I haven’t had the highest hopes for him since he was drafted, and he grew on me before the arm injury. I will conclude his career on whether he averages 15 ppg. If he manages to do so, I’d say he was a SERVICEABLE no. 1. If he doesn’t get to that 15 clip, I’d say he was just another pick (second tier, below Big Dog)
Who turned the light's out?? Because I don't see nobody!
I am officially hoping for a catastrophic collapse for the rest of this season.
I might not like what I see on the court, but that is my stance. I refuse to bury my head in the sand and “hope” that something miraculous will spawn from mediocrity.
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