Hornets Shopping Kaman, Bucks Interested?
by Mitchell Maurer on Jan 28, 2012 8:14 AM CST
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PrintAndrew Bogut's most recent unlikely injury will keep him in civvies for the next 8-12 weeks. The void in the middle is palpable for the Bucks, who replaced him with Drew Gooden in the starting lineup and extra minutes from Larry Sanders and Jon Leuer off the bench. The Bucks' depth will likely win them games that other teams missing a similarly important player would not, but the team will lose more often than they would have with Bogut in the lineup.
We go from one team stuck in NBA purgatory to another who is currently falling out of it: the New Orleans Hornets. Fresh off losing Chris Paul to the Clippers, they're now in full-on tank mode. Chris Kaman, one of the pieces the Hornets received from L.A. in the trade, has been deactivated until a suitable deal has been made.
So we have one team that just lost a good center to injury, while another just put a good, healthy center on the market. Is there a deal here?
Kaman is a lot like Bogut in many ways. He is comfortable on either block, a willing passer, rebounds at a high rate, and plays efficient defense. On the season, he's averaging 9.2 points, 6.6 rebounds, and 1.2 blocks per game, good for a slightly below average PER of 13.98. He's okay, but he's not significantly better than Bogut in any way (except for having a far better midrange game). But he would be a worthy replacement for the time that Bogut is sidelined. Is there a mutually beneficial deal to be had?
Kaman's cap value of $14.03 slightly over $12 million is a big hit to take, but his deal expires at season's end, making him an attractive piece for teams looking to shed salary. The Bucks are no exception, with players like Gooden ($6.2 mil cap hit, 4 years remaining), Stephen Jackson ($9.26 mil cap hit, 2 years remaining), and Beno Udrih ($7.2 mil cap hit, 1 player option year remaining) making more than their production might deserve.
The Hornets, who are strictly looking past this season, would covet a few things in a trade. They would want young players with potential, draft picks, or cheap veterans who would be able to mentor their current youths. Given that they have their own draft pick (likely top-5) and Minnesota's unprotected pick (likely mid-lottery), they might be willing to part with one of them if the deal were good enough.
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Trade #1: Kaman for Stephen Jackson, Carlos Delfino, and Larry Sanders
This is the easiest deal to make, salary wise. Milwaukee gets their second-most expensive player off the books while only losing their current backup center and one of their outside-shooting wing players. The Hornets get a big contract back, but one that expires after 2013, as well as another rim protector to work with Emeka Okafor.
Trade #2: Kaman for Beno Udrih, Drew Gooden, first round pick
This deal is a no-brainer for New Orleans: a decent backup PG, a decent backup F/C, and another draft pick in a loaded class. The Bucks get rid of two bloated contracts, including the third of John Hammond's three terribly-conceived free agent signings from a year ago.
If you want to talk about sacrificing the future to win now, here's your deal. Four players get shipped out, including both of this year's draft picks and last year's first round selection. Al Jefferson provides the low-post scoring we so sorely need, and his deal would allow Milwaukee to look at a Bogut-Jefferson-Jennings trio in 2013. Utah gets some salary cap relief, as well as extra PT for Favors, Kanter, and Millsap. The Hornets get two young prospects and a versatile wing. Draft picks can be thrown in as needed; Milwaukee would probably have to give up a pick or two to sweeten the deal for someone.
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The BrewHoop community is firmly divided into two camps: the "Win-Nows" and the "Tanking McTankersons". Some of us look at the Bogut injury as a huge step back for a team that should threaten in the playoffs, while others see it as a gift that should result in a higher draft pick.
When it comes to Kaman, a versatile big with a solid face-up game, the Win-Nows might want to bring him in (or use him to land another player) and see what happens. As a card-carrying member of the Tanking McTankersons, allow me to speak for the rest of my brethren:
NO NO NO NO NO DEAR SWEET LORD NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.
It's obvious that the Bucks are several pieces away from contending, but the only way they can acquire those pieces are either a) through the draft or b) through shrewd trades of their own. Going after Kaman would do little more than empty the cupboards of Milwaukee's young players and opportunities to bring in other impact players. Oh, sure, they might make the playoffs as a 7 or 8 seed, only to get steamrolled by Chicago or Miami or Philadelphia (who were awful in their own right a few seasons ago, but solid drafting and good decisions helped build them into what they are now: a good team).
Kaman to the Bucks? A way to win a handful of games now, but a guaranteed way to lose any hope of a championship for the next decade. Unless of course we manage to finagle a 2012 first round pick from New Orleans. Then I might change my mind.
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Let's Tank!
I definitely agree with tanking this season. The central division is getting stronger, with Indiana becoming a solid team that can knock off the big names (Boston, Chicago in Chicago!) and be a perennial playoff team, and Cleveland will be getting more high draft picks making them better in the future. To compete in the long run Milwaukee needs to get some good draft picks to surround Jennings and Bogut with. This draft is said to be loaded, so let’s get in on the action! With Bogut out, the team can lose a bunch of games with a good excuse, and if the big Aussie can stay healthy all of next season and we have some talented rookies, we’ll be set to improve. I don’t see how win-now makes any sense, not in a playoffs where we’ll get bounced early and easily. Next season, when the schedule isn’t as crazy, we should look to be making noise.
I don’t know how many draft picks we’ll have, but if it’s more than one we should definitely get them as high as we can.
Hmmm...
Trade 1: I’m concerned that without both Jackson and Delfino, we’d be extremely thin on the wing which I think would be counter productive if our goal is to make the playoffs (swap Ersan and Delfino maybe). For NOH, I’m not taking 2 years of anybody including Jackson unless MKE is taking Ariza or Okafor.
Trade 2: I like it with top 10 protection on the pick, doubt NOH does it though. Without the protection, I really wish Kohl would just amnesty Gooden, if he doesn’t want him. Trading Udrih won’t be a big problem after this season.
Trade 3: NO! Too many moving young parts for my liking. This is a Bucks fan nightmare from any angle win-now or tanker. We take on more salary, we win enough to not land a top 10 pick but not good enough to make any difference in the playoffs, and we lose all of our young pieces. I wouldn’t trade Leuer, Harris, Sanders for Jefferson and Kaman. And if we do bring Leuer, Harris, and Sanders to the table I’m sure our target will be much better than Al Jefferson.
Ultimately, if Milwaukee wants to get involved for Kaman, they’ll need to (1) involve a 3rd team or (2) take on Ariza and/or Okafor or (3) trade Bogut
Kaman looks
…like a coach, not a player. Is he under 40?
;)
My thoughts on the three scenarios
1. Yes I would do it, Kaman might be a good piece to have and the plus of losing jackson cancels out the negative of losing Sanders IMO.
2. I want my pick NO.
3. To quote a famous blogger
NO NO NO NO NO DEAR SWEET LORD NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Kaman looks like an actor, can’t remember his name but his start was a guy who lived under the stage on the Letterman Show(when it ws still kind of good) He has had other shows just for the life of me can’t remember his name. Kaman does look like he could use a transfusion though.
"He always plays like he's a pit bull that hasn't been fed in about a year and that you've got pork chops in your pockets and that's the basketball." Of course, he's Canadian
The wonders of google
The actor I was trying to place is Chris(same name weird)Elliott, he also appeared(appears)on everyone Loves Raymond.
"He always plays like he's a pit bull that hasn't been fed in about a year and that you've got pork chops in your pockets and that's the basketball." Of course, he's Canadian
Kohl/Hammond might well covet Kaman but
…none of your trade ideas seem workable. (Not criticizing your fabrication of them; just they don’t seem to have enough payoff for us and/or for NO.)
IMO a deal for Kaman would have to make us probable for say the 5th seed, and probable to go on to the second round. That would get Milwaukee’s attention and maybe re-center the franchise.
Splurging money or future assets for an 8 spot soon out doesn’t strike me as accomplishing much — for the team or its public image.
A big move for a very modest payoff seems a bad idea.
I might disagree and say #1 works
Milwaukee POV-Jackson is gone, Delfino is leaving anyway, Sanders iffy prospect atm, Kaman is a good asset to have for possible S&T. Downside mentioned above as Bucks would be very thin on wing but that gives Hobson, Harris chance to play. Might be better to substitute Ersan for Delfino but I’d do it either way.
NO POV-Really depends on if they think Sanders can make it, they might be more willing with Sova instead of Delfino, and Ersan may see an opportunity for burn and sign there.
No access to trade machine but would it work if you added Ariza and Udrih? That might make it more enticing for NO. Would be nice if we could work Henry into it though
"He always plays like he's a pit bull that hasn't been fed in about a year and that you've got pork chops in your pockets and that's the basketball." Of course, he's Canadian
Kaman and other players on NOH
can not be combined until 60 days after the CP3 trade, which is sometime in mid-Feb.
Trade 1 is more of a tank trade. imo I think we still miss the playoffs this year, but save about $10mil on Jackson next year. If we were really savvy, I’d say make trade 1, then trade Kaman again before the deadline for one of the better deals NOH would have to pass on to take trade 1.
I may not have read carefully enough, but my reaction was that a tanking New Orleans probably wouldn’t want Jackson, might view Delfino as a tad old and undistinguished for rebuilding (sorry, palomba), and might agree with many here that Sanders isn’t much of a prospect. Wouldn’t they want someone we’d hate to give up?
Again, I may not have read carefully enough — and should move on to work.
You may be right Chuk who knows
That’s why I thought if you made it as below, No might bite.
NO receives-Jackson, Udrih, Sanders, Delfino or Ilyasova(21.8)
MKE receives-Ariza, Kaman(20.8m)
The free agent class is pretty poor this year, not sure what 2013 shapes up to be but this would give NO almost 18m in expirings leading up to that summer.
One thing we don’t know is how much in demand expirings are going to be anymore. With the stars trying to call the shots on trades now, and with minimum team salary levels in effect, are expirings in demand anymore? I’d say not this year as again this UFA class is not the greatest.
"He always plays like he's a pit bull that hasn't been fed in about a year and that you've got pork chops in your pockets and that's the basketball." Of course, he's Canadian
We're on a one good old Clipper streak
Livingston……..hoping for two in a row lol.
"He always plays like he's a pit bull that hasn't been fed in about a year and that you've got pork chops in your pockets and that's the basketball." Of course, he's Canadian
Can Kohl...
…include his expiring Senate seat in any deal? That would have value…
Why is NO benching...
…the guy they want to trade? Are their problems between them? Or do they just not want him hurt?
They said they didn't want him hurt
probably right after hearing about Bogut
What's up here?
It’s been 2 minutes since I asked my questions. And there are no answers. Shape up people, or you’ll soon find yourself on the trading block.
TANKING
May well be the right move for this franchise right now, but I fear it may turn out to be Harakiri.
Strikes me that for this franchise in precarious condition in a city that doth not care, tanking is really and truly a chain with all weak links.
1. It requires being bad for an unknown number of years — tough on a teetering franchise.
2. It requires hitting on one or more Very Good picks
a. do we have the GM to do that?
b. if Kohl replaces the GM, will he choose wisely?
c. what savvy GM would want to take on this franchise’s burden? it’s have to be an up-and-comer and that means risk that he won’t pan out.
A really smart management could make a tank work. Anyone think we’re really smart?
Honestly
I don’t think Hammond is going anywhere and precautionary trades need to be made. I don’t want Kaman if we have to risk losing our young players or picks other than Ersan. And I don’t think this team is a win-now team without Stack Jack.
The only trade that I would understand includes Livingston (team option next year) and/or Luc (young enough and small enough contract) and some assortment of Delfino (expiring), Ersan (expiring, young), and Sanders (rookie contract, young).
Livingston, Delfino, Ersan for Kaman works…Livingston, Delfino, Ersan, Sanders works…after mid-Feb Luc, Delfino, Ersan works…Luc, Delfino, Sanders works.
Personally would be harder for me to let Livingston go than Luc, Sanders, or anybody else mentioned.
by FearTheDeer on Jan 28, 2012 10:11 AM CST up reply actions
If Kaman is a comin' in...
I think the terms of the deal will either surprise or dismay.
See y’all later…
not a McTankerson
maybe I just hate being a losing team w/ no hope, but my biggest fear is the Bucks leaving Milwaukee, which this could hasten, if we have several more no-playoff seasons, empty BC’s and with no support, no chance for a new arena…
as for the proposed trades [and mind you I read through this fast]:
I actually like Kaman and think we need a center [hopefully backup later]; I don’t want to give up Leuer, and probably not Harris, but aside from Leuer and Jennings and Mbah a Moute, think we could consider any trades…
Unless we get a new owner like Attanasio...
I’m not a McTankerson either.
I’m not deal savvy. I can imagine giving up the #1 pick IF the Bucks are rightly convinced that we’d make the bottom of the playoffs and the pick would be mid-1st round.
I’d think we’d have to give up a young player we like. Leuer or Harris.
But I don’t know how we send out enough salary in the form of a player they’d remotely want. Everyone everywhere constantly tries to trade away Gooden — but maybe he’d give the Hornets PT with some empty stats without significantly increasing their winning.
Lastly, we don’t have cap space.
Trouble with trading the pick is.....
If you do it then Jennings went down……..you’re uckfayed.
"He always plays like he's a pit bull that hasn't been fed in about a year and that you've got pork chops in your pockets and that's the basketball." Of course, he's Canadian
by CanadaBucks on Jan 28, 2012 10:14 AM CST up reply actions
As the NBA’s incarnation of Sisyphus, we know all about that kind of stuff.
You take a risk. You lose. You go for another risk. Sigh.
If they think they can “afford it,” I expect them to let this season be what it is, without major changes. If there’s one or more reasons they can’t afford it, then a subset of Hell may break loose.
I'd rather not roll the dice with the pick
If at seasons end you can “afford it” the demand will still be there. You never know what those balls will do.(ping pong)
"He always plays like he's a pit bull that hasn't been fed in about a year and that you've got pork chops in your pockets and that's the basketball." Of course, he's Canadian
by CanadaBucks on Jan 28, 2012 10:24 AM CST up reply actions
Chuk according to HoopsHype you may be right
Adrian Wojnarowski: Hornets asking price for Kaman too high. “They were asking for draft picks, cap space and a young player,” one executive says
And Jane I agree with you, I don’t want to tank either but don’t want to sacrifice future for this season, makes it tough.
"He always plays like he's a pit bull that hasn't been fed in about a year and that you've got pork chops in your pockets and that's the basketball." Of course, he's Canadian
The best NOLA can hope for here
is a collection of overpriced players coupled with either a pick or a prospect. Not both, definitely not all three.
http://twitter.com/WhalesLarry ...but only if you want to see someone still trying to figure Twitter out.
by Mitchell Maurer on Jan 28, 2012 10:11 AM CST up reply actions
Agreed Mitchell
But Stern is calling the shots? It’s not like expirings had the same allure as they did for the summer of 2010.
"He always plays like he's a pit bull that hasn't been fed in about a year and that you've got pork chops in your pockets and that's the basketball." Of course, he's Canadian
by CanadaBucks on Jan 28, 2012 10:15 AM CST up reply actions
interesting
If Stern is calling the shots, and if behind the scenes the Bucks are on life support (and if an action here won’t hurt his big-city favorite teams) Stern might send us Kaman to bail out our lifeboat. Maybe for a price that seems reasonable, but which includes the hidden catch that we’ll owe him one, to be collected for sure, but later when we’re stronger.
Typical Hammond behavior here might be...
To hang around the fringe of the Kaman negotiations in the NBA Marketplace, not saying much. Then if New Orleans fails in trying to over-value Kaman, sidle in with a lower-ball proposal. So there may be a number of news headlines (speculative) about Kaman that don’t mention the Bucks and bear no fruit followed by one that does.
Still, I am not all atingle…
Pretty sure they could get all of that
they’d just have to pick the right target. Of the rumored targets HOU, INDY, SAS, and UTAH at least HOU and INDY have exactly what they are asking for and have it to spare.
For example:
INDY IN: Kaman
INDY OUT: lotto protected 1st, Lance Stephenson
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=787dbjb
HOU IN: Kaman and HOU
HOU OUT: Thabeet, Hill, Flynn, lower of Knicks and Rockets pick
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=7d5lnhm
by FearTheDeer on Jan 28, 2012 10:30 AM CST up reply actions
The Indy deal sucks for NO
The pick will be in the 20s and a guy like Lance? nty
The Houston one is better than ours though.
"He always plays like he's a pit bull that hasn't been fed in about a year and that you've got pork chops in your pockets and that's the basketball." Of course, he's Canadian
by CanadaBucks on Jan 28, 2012 10:40 AM CST up reply actions
indy
that’s cap relief immediately, plus a young player, and a 1st. that’s all 3 criteria. every team trading for kaman will protect their pick and intend to make the playoffs. Not going to get much better.
by FearTheDeer on Jan 28, 2012 11:55 AM CST via Android app up reply actions
I just wonder if Stephenson has any value at all
As a scorer who is not shooting well(33.2% career) or as a combo guard with a not great handle(1.3/1.22 ATR). Realize this is a small sample size but add his baggage and he wouldn’t be a guy I would really want. I think they can do much better than that.
"He always plays like he's a pit bull that hasn't been fed in about a year and that you've got pork chops in your pockets and that's the basketball." Of course, he's Canadian
by CanadaBucks on Jan 28, 2012 12:23 PM CST up reply actions
Probably none
he was just a throw in, Indy has the cap space to absorb Kaman entirely. I think Indy 1st should be enough for both parties. Apparently Hill, Thabeet, and Flynn are like 3 Joe Alexanders because Houston declined their rookie options similar to us declining Joe’s a few years prior. It’s really about the pick and cap space.
I would say Hill has value
of the other 2 Flynn ranks ahead of Joe, not sure about Thabeet. Think Hill is just part of a PF log jam although he’s getting 15 mpg so he can’t be that bad. I can’t see Stern saying yes to the pacers offer, they have the cap space at the end of season no matter what so if they can’t do better than a 20th pick for Kaman, Demps should be fired.
"He always plays like he's a pit bull that hasn't been fed in about a year and that you've got pork chops in your pockets and that's the basketball." Of course, he's Canadian
just a little salary info on the three Houston guys
Might shed some light on why they were not extended:
These would be their 2012 salaries:
Thabeet-6.5m
Flynn-4.3
Hill-3.6
obviously Thabeet was a no-brainer, Flynnhas really slipped since his rookie year. Hill puzzles me as he has shown some talent and his salary isn’t huge but I think with Scola and Patterson in front of him the Rockets don’t feel there’s value in keeping him.
"He always plays like he's a pit bull that hasn't been fed in about a year and that you've got pork chops in your pockets and that's the basketball." Of course, he's Canadian
I have heard that Kaman is like Gooden in that he puts up good numbers but doesn't do the little things to help his team win.
No need for another player like that.
true but
We’re a franchise well acquainted with damaged merchandise. We shop in the bargain bin — where you can’t be put off by broken pieces. Instead you settle for dolls that appear to have some functioning parts.
If you’re a smarter GM than all the rest, you can make that work well. Again… anyone think we’re that smart?
The way I see it
NOLA needs to figure out who’s willing to pay for a player like Kaman. A team that needs a center in order to compete this year should be tops on their list. Off the top of my head, here are the teams who could use a center this season:
Milwaukee
Boston
Atlanta
San Antonio
Houston
Each one of these teams would benefit from bringing in Kaman. The other contenders either already have a center or wouldn’t dare blow up the good thing they have going. Of those teams, only Houston has two picks in this year’s draft. The rest of the teams don’t have a glut of young talent to spare.
I’d call Houston and take whatever they could give me.
http://twitter.com/WhalesLarry ...but only if you want to see someone still trying to figure Twitter out.
by Mitchell Maurer on Jan 28, 2012 10:57 AM CST reply actions
I would say SA has better prospects than HOU
But HOU’s pick(or the Knicks)will likely be better. SA could offer any of Splitter, Joseph, leonard(really doubtful), Anderson, Neal, Green. SA would be the best trading partner in terms of talent anyway
Looking at the few scenarios SA and Houston are probably odds on favourites in terms of packages, Boston like us has nothing.
"He always plays like he's a pit bull that hasn't been fed in about a year and that you've got pork chops in your pockets and that's the basketball." Of course, he's Canadian
by CanadaBucks on Jan 28, 2012 11:04 AM CST up reply actions
Is Kaman too big an add for the Bulls' roster?
From RealGM Wiretap (also has possible Pryz implications):
The Bulls released reserve point guard Mike James early Saturday, dropping their roster to 13 players again.
This could pave the way for the Bulls to add a reserve big man, which general manager Gar Forman has alluded to as far back as training camp.
Leon Powe and Joel Przybilla are two players with whom the Bulls have had conversations to bolster a frontcourt which currently has Luol Deng out.
The Bulls already have two centers in Noah and Asik and Gibson who has the length to shift over to center in small lineups.
by Brick's house on Jan 28, 2012 11:07 AM CST up reply actions
Sometimes you wonder if it's moves for your team
Or to block other teams. I remember once a baseball team claiming Dennis Martinez not because they needed him, but to block another team from claiming him.
"He always plays like he's a pit bull that hasn't been fed in about a year and that you've got pork chops in your pockets and that's the basketball." Of course, he's Canadian
by CanadaBucks on Jan 28, 2012 11:11 AM CST up reply actions
It's not 14.03 million
rather it’s a little over 12 mil. When Kaman was traded, a kicker of almost 2 mil was included, but it doesn’t get added to the cap amount.
Provide a link,
and I’ll make the change
http://twitter.com/WhalesLarry ...but only if you want to see someone still trying to figure Twitter out.
by Mitchell Maurer on Jan 28, 2012 11:21 AM CST up reply actions
HoopsHype salaries has 14.03 as well
"He always plays like he's a pit bull that hasn't been fed in about a year and that you've got pork chops in your pockets and that's the basketball." Of course, he's Canadian
by CanadaBucks on Jan 28, 2012 12:15 PM CST up reply actions
Fishing LEUER
Why? The guy looks like hes not even getting enough sleep. Other than jennings/bogut/leuer/1st roung picks, most of the players are trade able. I dont know why the bucks want to go into a win now mode & trade for a player that at best would help them make the 7-8 slot & get bounced in the 1st round. Best to tank & hope to get lucky in the lotto, hell try to trade & get a higher pick.
Also we need a nickname for Jon Leuer.
We've got plenty of good ones.
I’ve scheduled my next Best of Comments post for tomorrow to recap some of the best.
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by Steve von Horn on Jan 28, 2012 12:01 PM CST up reply actions
Something I read on Hornet's blog
for some reason relating to the lockout and new CBA, teams can carry 16 players on their roster this season instead of 15 like any other season. Any truth to this whatsoever?
Ugh. Bucks brass just needs to let this season die, and regroup for next yr.
Trim whatever fat you can this yr, and go for the ping pong balls.
If the Bucks keep this roster together, they could land a top 6 pick [or higher if they get lucky] and then take the 18mil from Beno and Jax expiring contracts after next yr and pursue a good FA or two in a pretty deep 2013 FA pool
great write-up
but for mine taking on Kaman would conspire to produce all-too familiar mediocrity. Granted taking him on to release cap space for next year could be a worthy ploy, but I doubt NOLA would be willing to take on Gooden, and agree with post somewhere above – why not just amnesty him? I understand $$ are an issue, so perhaps we could get the best out of it by trading for an expiring contract, but the complementary players/picks required would be too much in my opinion.
Think part of the pont is
You don’t want to tank and need a big til Bogut gets back. No obligation to kamans so if the price was right, may be a good way to stay in the race, except if Gooden plays like tonight then just go with it.
"He always plays like he's a pit bull that hasn't been fed in about a year and that you've got pork chops in your pockets and that's the basketball." Of course, he's Canadian
by CanadaBucks on Jan 28, 2012 10:00 PM CST up reply actions
Except I am a full supporter of tanking
regardless of Bogut’s health.
http://twitter.com/WhalesLarry ...but only if you want to see someone still trying to figure Twitter out.
by Mitchell Maurer on Jan 29, 2012 12:38 AM CST up reply actions
I like Kaman a lot BUT
isn’t he also quite injury prone?
Pro Kaman Trade
Trading Jackson and a role player or even two role players (depending on the players) would be good for the Bucks both short-term and long-term. Anyone who has watched the Bucks play this season should be able to plainly see that the Bucks are much sharper offensively with Jackson not on the court.
There are three reasons Jackson is getting PT that I can see: 1) He’s getting paid $10M, 2) They don’t want him to go all locker-room berserker if he doesn’t get his PT, and 3) Sitting him depreciates him as a trade-able asset further.
So, the upside of moving Jackson for an expiring contract is twofold: 1) you get better in the short-run via addition by subtraction and 2) you free up $10M next year that can be re-invested in a much better player.
The fact that we could get a serviceable player like Kaman at a position of need for the short-term is great, but to my mind isn’t even the main factor—which is the increased cap space for next year.
In order to make the trade palatable to NO, I’d be happy to part with Luc Richard or Harris or Sanders or even Delfino. I’m iffy on Ilyasova and wouldn’t want to part with Leuer because of the promise he has shown.
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