ESPN: Stephen Jackson Interested In Playing In New Jersey Alongside Dwight Howard
by Jacob Grinyer on Jan 30, 2012 9:57 PM CST
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PrintAccording to ESPN's Ric Bucher, Stephen Jackson may not be so content on the Bucks, and may be looking for greener (?) pastures:
If they [Nets] want to improve their chances, my understanding is that Stephen Jackson & Dwight Howard have talked several times about playing together. And would love to do so with the Nets with Deron Williams at the point guard setting them up. If the Nets want to improve their chances of getting Dwight Howard, making a deal for Stephen Jackson as well should be on their menu.
Uh-Oh?
Jackson, like his predecessor Corey Maggette, has been clouded by suspicion over his relationship with the coaching staff and how well he fits in with Scott Skiles' system. Needless to say, Jackson has had an up and (mostly) down year, having been suspended once for missing practice and by the NBA last weekend for butting heads with officials after Friday night's loss in Chicago. Then again, this has been a recurring theme throughout Jackson's career, so the Bucks can't say they didn't have any warnings. Whether the rumors of his transfer to the East Coast had anything to do with his lack of playing time against the Pistons is anyone's guess, but at the very least it's a curious coincidence.
It seems somewhat like a foregone conclusion that Howard will be wearing a different uniform sometime in the near future, so how far the Nets will be willing (and able) to go to appease Howard will likely play a factor in whether or not the Bucks make a deal or not. The Bucks have been anything but predictable, with Jackson a major contributor in the unpredictability department. As a result, it didn't come as a complete shock to see Steve Kyler suggest on Monday that the Bucks' patience is wearing thin with the well-traveled former Oak Hill standout.
Jacksons has shot a well-below-average 36% from the field 47% TS%, notably even short of even Brandon Jennings' first season in the league. It hasn't helped that while on the court he's used up approximately 22% of the Buck posessions, not a high for him but not all too impressive considering his production. Despite his struggles, Bucks fans have seen flashes of what they might have hoped for, including a season high 34 points against San Antonio and 20 against Houston, but he's remained inconsistent with notable differences between his home and away performances. At home, he has averaged 14 points on a tolerable 43% shooting, including roughly 33% from 3 point range. On the road, his play has taken a dive-- averaging 12 points on 33% shooting, 27% from the three.
Nevertheless, the team has not exactly struggled in Jackson's absence, going 3-0 against the Knicks, Lakers, and now Pistons without him. It's probably a stretch to say that those wins wouldn't have happened with Jackson, but there's no doubt that the Bucks have other options at the wings with Delfino, Dunleavy and Livingston, with some minutes to spare for rookie Tobias Harris. It's also a matter of salary, as Jackson is owed aroud 19 million through the 2012/2013 season, a serious chunk of change for a team that's still not sure what direction it really wants to head in, and not exactly likely to contend soon.
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I'd certainly take
Okur’s expiring, Morrow or MarShawn. Picks are good too, just no Petro, Farmar, or Gaines. Hell I’d even take Hump to get Jax off the books.
"He always plays like he's a pit bull that hasn't been fed in about a year and that you've got pork chops in your pockets and that's the basketball." Of course, he's Canadian
Okur would make sense
And either morrow or Brooks and I’d probably even take Hump to get jax off the books but my gut says if it happen, it’s Okur. Please none of the Williams though or Petro, Gaines or Farmar
"He always plays like he's a pit bull that hasn't been fed in about a year and that you've got pork chops in your pockets and that's the basketball." Of course, he's Canadian
Soyy I posted twice, the first one was in limbo
So i posted again.
"He always plays like he's a pit bull that hasn't been fed in about a year and that you've got pork chops in your pockets and that's the basketball." Of course, he's Canadian
by CanadaBucks on Jan 30, 2012 10:17 PM CST up reply actions
Just saw this on Rotoworld
Okur cannot be traded until this July and Humphries signed a 1 year deal and may not be traded until the league year is over. The Nets won’t trade Marshon Buckets and Morrow’s salary is only $4M. The only way a S.Jax trade goes through is if Bucks-Nets include a third team.
This trade works: Bucks get Kaman, SJax to Nets, Hornets get Ilyasova, Morrow, Brook Lopez
Kaman is owed $14M and is an expiring contract.
This is an incredibly realistic trade
that serves the needs of everyone. Unless of course Dwight spurns the nets.
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by Mitchell Maurer on Jan 30, 2012 10:34 PM CST up reply actions
"Incredibly realistic"
Awwww….
But seriously, the Hornets would have to walk away feeling pretty good from that deal.
by Jacob Grinyer on Jan 30, 2012 10:41 PM CST up reply actions
Not happening
The Nets need Brook Lopez (and probably MarShon) around if they’re going to try and put a package together for Dwight and not just wait and hope he comes there in the offseason. The Magic need some return on Dwight.
by Brewcityhoya13 on Jan 30, 2012 11:35 PM CST up reply actions
How?
How is it that most contracts signed this year can be traded on March 1, but Humphries can’t? If Humphries and Okur can’t be traded, it’s 3rd team or deal off.
by FearTheDeer on Jan 30, 2012 11:41 PM CST up reply actions
Billy King would have to be drunk to make this trade
If the Nets were unwilling to include Lopez in a trade for Melo, they’re not going to include him in a trade for SJax. Besides it probably does more damage in their pursuit of DH (since Lopez would have to be part of any trade with Orlando, either directly or indirectly).
by Mike Gminski on Jan 31, 2012 11:22 AM CST up reply actions
happy for management
to make this happen, even for nominal draft picks. But in a way we could hold the Nets to ransom if he becomes a key piece in whether or not Howard would head their way.
This does not sit well with me
Although it’s nice to have a player involved in the national conversation, even if it’s with the Dwight Howard Free Agency Sh^tshow. At least he’s not our best player.
If Jackson’s on the way out, I want more than just Kaman’s expiring contract. I want a draft pick, preferably a good one.
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by Mitchell Maurer on Jan 30, 2012 10:33 PM CST reply actions
You'd better get some complimentary posts out on Jax soon then.
I think my preseason one might need to expunged too.
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by Steve von Horn on Jan 30, 2012 10:34 PM CST up reply actions
I would think that the financial flexibility of an expiring contract would be a good trade off for Jax.
I would miss Ersan’s rebounding and defensive tenacity in that deal though. I would think that deal has to make Nets fans throw up in their mouth a little, especially if they don’t end up with Howard.
by Brick's house on Jan 30, 2012 11:27 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I think we need the depth tho
We’d have to get a rotation piece at least, can’t just be a expiring contract.
by FearTheDeer on Jan 30, 2012 11:31 PM CST up reply actions
I don't think it's in the Bucks' interest to hold out for a great deal
If Jackson can’t even get off the bench for Skiles then they’d be well-served to move him when they can.
by Frank Madden on Jan 30, 2012 11:52 PM CST up reply actions
And it would be nice to finally be without a horrible contract hanging over our heads
With Livingston playing well enough and the depth on the wings, I would be very happy to see Cap’n Jack and his bloated contract go.
Agreed
The only thing working in their favor would be other teams actually wanting Jax enough to trade for him. Right now, his value has to be extremely low to any team that doesn’t have ulterior motives for signing him like the Nets supposedly do.
Morrow and Petro for Jax works. Seems like Petro is probably NJ’s worst contract? I’d do that deal in a heartbeat. I would LOVE having Morrow on the Bucks.
by Dan Sinclair on Jan 31, 2012 12:00 AM CST up reply actions
As Mitchell might say...
MOAR THREE PLZ!
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by Steve von Horn on Jan 31, 2012 12:37 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
No
I think this trade is far too desperate. Morrow and Petro are both around 10th man on this team, they don’t save us money and they don’t make us better today or in the future. I’d argue that this is quite possibly worse trash than we started with, even though I don’t view Jackson as trash personally.
If you can get a pick or something, sure
But I just don’t see that happening. As others have said, they need to keep all their best assets for a possible Dwight Howard trade.
Morrow has shot better than 40% from three in every year of his career. There is room for a shooter like that on every roster in the NBA. Petro’s just a salary-matcher, but Milwaukee could do worse than an actual center who doesn’t really have to do anything other than stand under the basket and whack anything that comes near him.
by Dan Sinclair on Jan 31, 2012 1:20 AM CST up reply actions
It's tough to extract value for a guy who a) isn't productive and b) everyone knows you're having problems with
It’s one thing if Jax was playing and doing OK, but he’s been in and out of the lineup and last game Skiles didn’t even play him. Aside from a weird situation like New Jersey’s, I can’t imagine many/any teams want to give up anything of value for him.
by Frank Madden on Jan 31, 2012 1:59 PM CST up reply actions
That's why we should take pretty much anything
Although I still like Okur(the deal more than him), that works for me.
"He always plays like he's a pit bull that hasn't been fed in about a year and that you've got pork chops in your pockets and that's the basketball." Of course, he's Canadian
So, has Howard actually seen Jax play this year?
Did he watch the San Antonio game and think that Jax can do that anytime he wants? Howard must have a real Man Crush on Jax because he is just a poor shooting, turnover machine this year.
Maybe Jax has convinced him that Skiles is the cause of all his struggles this year. Just baffling.
by Brick's house on Jan 30, 2012 11:21 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Cap'n Jack has a way with his NBA peers
Other players swear by him, and Dwight would be well served to have a proven tough-guy to go into battle with (and help him maintain his squeaky-clean, albiet a little whiny, image).
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by Mitchell Maurer on Jan 31, 2012 1:40 AM CST up reply actions
If Utah and Jersey are dumb enough to make those moves,
absolutely.
Harris would be an incredibly expensive backup PG, and I don’t know how much he would enjoy coming off the bench behind Jennings. Morrow would be a great addition to any team, and half of us wanted to draft Alec Burks back in June anyway.
Can we really get all that by just giving up Jackson, Udrih, and Brockman? I find it hard to believe, but this would be the steal of all steals if it ever went through. I’d imagine we’d at least have to give up Tobias Harris or Jon Leuer or a draft pick or something.
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by Mitchell Maurer on Jan 31, 2012 7:24 AM CST up reply actions
Work no like ESPN
Whats the deal?
"He always plays like he's a pit bull that hasn't been fed in about a year and that you've got pork chops in your pockets and that's the basketball." Of course, he's Canadian
UTAH-NJ-MKE
MKE: Morrow, Alec Burks, Devin Harris
UTAH: Udrih, Brockman, Farmar
NJ: Jackson
I think MKE does it, I think NJ does it, I don’t think UTAH does it, but I think if we take out Udrih and Brockman and give Morrow to UTAH instead of MKE then it might just work considering UTAH is supposedly willing to part with Burks to get rid of Harris.
My only issue with that
is that we would have a guard lineup of Jennings, Harris, Livingston, Udrih, and Burks, with Delfino and Dunleavy rotating in heavily as well.
That’s a LOT of mouths to feed, especially when Jennings and Livingston have played particularly well, Delfino’s/Dunleavy’s shooting are too important to leave off the floor, and between Harris and Udrih’s salaries, one of them has to play.
All that said, when does Burks get any PT? Do we D-League him, perhaps?
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by Mitchell Maurer on Jan 31, 2012 8:12 AM CST up reply actions
True Mitchell
Unless you could dump Delfino instead of Brockman? Would that be better?
"He always plays like he's a pit bull that hasn't been fed in about a year and that you've got pork chops in your pockets and that's the basketball." Of course, he's Canadian
But just in terms of gathering assets
It would be a steal.
"He always plays like he's a pit bull that hasn't been fed in about a year and that you've got pork chops in your pockets and that's the basketball." Of course, he's Canadian
Which is why it wouldn't happen.
Utah gives up the best player in the deal and has to give up a 2011 lottery pick to do it? I know Devin is struggling, but he has less $$ left on his deal than Jax.
Could be realistic if the Bucks ship out a young asset and the Jazz get to keep Burks.
by Frank Madden on Jan 31, 2012 2:20 PM CST up reply actions
Dumping Jax is one thing
But do you want to screw with your mojo right now by making multi-player deals?
"He always plays like he's a pit bull that hasn't been fed in about a year and that you've got pork chops in your pockets and that's the basketball." Of course, he's Canadian
They may have hit a hot streak,
but this is still a fatally flawed team that lacks low-post scoring and athleticism, two things that you need to succeed in the playoffs.
When a strong defensive team like Chicago or Miami or Philly starts closing out hard on your shooters, a team without those two skills will inevitably flounder.
Better to use this year as a chance to develop Jennings, Leuer, Harris, Livingston, Sanders, and Hobson, who are going to be a part of whatever team you field for the next 3-5 years (hopefully).
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by Mitchell Maurer on Jan 31, 2012 2:44 PM CST up reply actions
Departure Is enough Compensation...
You are probably right that this guy must be part of it, or that player part of the move.
You are probably correct in suggesting this draft pick, or that choice is too much
and / or too little. I’ll have to trust each of you on those decisions.
In my world, this guy has got to go. Never should have been here in the first place,
(although I understand the Maggettee trade). Therefore Mr. G.M….do what you must
to make this happen. The cliche ‘addition by subtraction’ has rarely fit more neatly then
in this scenerio. Move this guy now…please…if you can?
First line is right on
As long as we don’t take back something longer and/or worse like Rashard Lewis or Hedo or something like that.
"He always plays like he's a pit bull that hasn't been fed in about a year and that you've got pork chops in your pockets and that's the basketball." Of course, he's Canadian
by CanadaBucks on Jan 31, 2012 11:15 AM CST up reply actions
Nothing Personal either Canada...
I had really hoped this thing with JAX could/would have worked out. Hell, I’m waiting for any FA that Hammonds brings in, considered upper-mid level, to work out. (Maggette/Salmons/ect)
Hence, when JAX was considered and signed I thought, lets hope this thing works….the guy, when focused, has game. I’ve seen enough of him here to suggest he knows exactly what he’s doing. And, seemingly at this time, ‘game’ has taken a back seat to disruptive behavior; the result being a dismissive slip courtesy of your GM to places presently unknown pending.
KInda like that kid who acts out until he gets what he wants. Lets just hope the ‘acting out’ timeframe does not carry on too long. Presently, he seems to be somewhat courteous, and relativly low key. We know this behavior can be progressive, if not dealt with in a timely fashion, and JAX just may show even a Darker side should his departure time not fit his desire?
I think he's the type of guy
to sit back and let it take it’s course. He’s very patient and understands the business of the game.
On-court Jax (and rapper Stak5) are nothing like Business Jax.
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by Mitchell Maurer on Jan 31, 2012 12:50 PM CST up reply actions
Getting 9 plus million this year and next regardless of outcome does wonders for one's patience, I'm sure.
It is good to see he’s not publicly rocking the boat yet, though
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by Steve von Horn on Jan 31, 2012 1:20 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Truth.
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by Mitchell Maurer on Jan 31, 2012 1:21 PM CST up reply actions
I think Jackson's locker room chemistry is being neglected
He’s seen as the big bro to most of the players and a vocal motivator and leader. He may not agree with Skiles, but I think his abilities are needed on this team and his departure without reinstating some leadership will be this teams demise. I’m not sure who’s the leader when Jax is gone. Skiles said it earlier, there are only a few real leaders in the NBA, he gave a number like 10, and Jax is one of them.
Have you heard or read something about Jackson's possitive influence in the locker room?
Maybe I missed something, but I haven’t had any notice that such thing happened. On the contrary, I tend to believe this leadership thing is a bit overrated, and doesn’t seem to resemble the roles Stackhouse and McDyes had a couple of seasons ago, for example.
And also, If i had to guess, I’m not so sure he got along very well with Bogut and Delfino.
Nobody does.
Bogut never lets him have the armrest on team flights and Cabeza is ALWAYS TAKING THE GOOD TOWELS.
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by Mitchell Maurer on Jan 31, 2012 1:20 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
But, seriously. where does all this stuff about Jackson being a possitive leader comes from?
Only guy a heard talking about Jackson’s leadership was Jackson himself.
Quotes about CAPTAIN....Jack
Here’s one from today
“He’s not a bad teammate and has generally been well-liked in his previous locker rooms. He’s clearly not a fan of Milwaukee’s coaching, though.”
- examiner.com
Yesterday
“The Bucks’ players love Jackson, he is viewed a big brother to a number of them”
-Hoopsworld
January 19
“I think his heart, his desire and his will to win," Bucks’ point guard Brandon Jennings told HOOPSWORLD of Jackson’s endearing qualities. "He brings a lot of attitude to this team that we really need, that toughness that we never had. With a guy like that it’s going to help other players around our team and make us better."
-Brandon Jennings
”http://www.hoopsworld.com/fiery-stephen-jackson-leading-young-bucks" target="_blank">http://www.hoopsworld.com/fiery-stephen-jackson-leading-young-bucks
Bucks Media Day
“I know this might shock everybody, but there might be 10-12 leaders in the whole league,” Skiles said. "That’s what reality is. People look at every team and say, ‘He makes the most money, he must be the leader.’ Or the team might put forward somebody as the leader that they need to put forward.
“But when you’re on the inside … it doesn’t necessarily mean they’re the leader. Leadership is very, very rare and very hard to find. You can cultivate it a little bit but normally, somebody just kind of has it.”
-Scott Skiles with respect to Captain Jack
Miami
Mario Chalmers flagarant foul against Jennings in Miami during the final few seconds. Who was the first guy to have Jennings back? Immediately showing that he’s there for his teammate. If Ersan Ilyasova runs over there does Chalmers back down?
Teams need guys who have an intimidation factor, not sure many other Bucks have it. He’s a fiery on court competitor of the KG mold. Teammate’s love him, opposing teams hate playing against him.
I agree with you that teams need fierce guys
and, old as he is getting, I would love to have Garnet in the Bucks. But I’m not sure the mold applies to Jackson, as you say. That said, maybe he inspired Bj and some of the young guys and that’s fine with me.
Right now
The Bucks would have 0 people with a fiery personality without Jackson. We currently have 1, honestly it’s fiery enough for maybe 2 people. I’d argue we should be looking for more attitude and sign Kenyon Martin or JR Smith when they are eligible. This team is super soft without Jackson.
Like the Raptors when
Charles Oakley left, but I still want Jax to go.
"He always plays like he's a pit bull that hasn't been fed in about a year and that you've got pork chops in your pockets and that's the basketball." Of course, he's Canadian
Charles Oakley
"He always plays like he's a pit bull that hasn't been fed in about a year and that you've got pork chops in your pockets and that's the basketball." Of course, he's Canadian
Here's my list:
(current players only)
Kevin Garnett (slowly slipping)
Kobe Bryant (ditto)
Chris Paul
and I’m done. There really isn’t anyone else that can play at a high level and intimidate opponents on a personal level.
Of course, the master of this was Allen Iverson. He didn’t take no mess.
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by Mitchell Maurer on Jan 31, 2012 2:49 PM CST up reply actions
I would go insane if Iverson ever was involved with Milwaukee
my favorite player for a long, long time.
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by Mitchell Maurer on Jan 31, 2012 3:05 PM CST up reply actions
Even these guys
I’d add Melo to that list too. KG is playing about as poorly as Jackson. Kobe can never be a tough guy after being punch silly by Chris Childs, he’s more like a spoiled brat throwing temper tantrums that have an or else…Most years you would add Jackson to that list and not so much on the list with guys who just have attitudes but no leadership like Stevenson, Metta, Kendrick Perkins, Cousins, Blatche.
leaders don't have to be like that though
think of Dave Cowens(for those of you who can remember him). he was a leader but not the in your face type, times have changed I know but I can see Jennings being a leader. I don’t think Melo is a leader…….and i think that’s part of the problem in NY.
"He always plays like he's a pit bull that hasn't been fed in about a year and that you've got pork chops in your pockets and that's the basketball." Of course, he's Canadian
Absolutely not,
Melo is many things, but definitely NOT a tough guy.
Remember the “slap fight” against Nate Robinson?
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by Mitchell Maurer on Jan 31, 2012 9:43 PM CST up reply actions
Jennings has the fire,
but he’s far more “happy” energy than anything. If Jennings steps to another player, that player is likely not going to be intimidated (partially because of his stature, but mostly because of his demeanor).
Stephen Jackson, on the other hand, is “straight trill”. You do not mess with Stephen Jackson, because he will mess with you.
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by Mitchell Maurer on Jan 31, 2012 2:46 PM CST up reply actions
The biggest supporter I've ever heard of
was Tim Duncan, speaking on Jackson’s time with the 2003 championship squad.
But I have heard it from numerous other players, coaches, reps, etc.
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by Mitchell Maurer on Jan 31, 2012 1:48 PM CST up reply actions
Good enough.
Maybe in those days he could back up all his talking with some good action in court. Didn’t seem to be the case with us. But I don’t know really.
Desire.
Simple as that.
He doesn’t want to go all out for a team he doesn’t see a future with. It sucks, but it’s logical.
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by Mitchell Maurer on Jan 31, 2012 2:09 PM CST up reply actions
Or maybe he hasn't that much to give at this point of his career.
If that’s true, we’ll be better without him.
If Jax sits Wednesday
I’d think is safe to assume he’ll be moved shortly.
its gonna be hard
for the nets to acquire jax and dwights contracts together.
As much as I’d want to be in on that trade I don’t see it happening
unless…Petro and Jordan Williams and eating Farmars contract
for Jackson and Brockman. Works on the machine!
by Charlie_Buckets on Jan 31, 2012 12:09 PM CST reply actions
Interesting Proposal
You would have to lose a body, I suppose you could waive Williams or Hobson Petro would fill a need although I would hope for something better. I think I’d pass on that one.
"He always plays like he's a pit bull that hasn't been fed in about a year and that you've got pork chops in your pockets and that's the basketball." Of course, he's Canadian
agreed
I just don’t see there being a trade out there that is beneficial to both teams. I actually like Jordan Williams. He is just a rook and he likes to bang inside.
by Charlie_Buckets on Jan 31, 2012 1:24 PM CST up reply actions
I like Okur straight up(with a twist)
Would give us 12m-ish to spend for next season.
"He always plays like he's a pit bull that hasn't been fed in about a year and that you've got pork chops in your pockets and that's the basketball." Of course, he's Canadian
How About This?
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=6tps36b
Bucks add Kaman, who can play quality minutes at C filling in till Bogut gets back, and is a huge expiring deal, while adding James for ’Sova, which is not a terrible loss for the Bucks either adding some athleticism, and the Hornets add some nice young pieces. Think it works for all sides.
Your trade is Bucks-Jazz-Nets
Methinks you pasted the wrong link.
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by Mitchell Maurer on Jan 31, 2012 3:09 PM CST up reply actions
You're Right
This is it, sorry about that:
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=7nfrssc
looking again, I really think it makes sense, and falls in line with what the Hornets have said they want in return for Kaman; young pieces and cap flexibility.
Another possibility:
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=83ddx7x
Milwaukee: J.J. Hickson, Mehmet Okur
New Jersey: Stephen Jackson, Tyler Honeycutt
Sacramento: Anthony Morrow
Gives NJ a young player, gives Sacramento a shooter to play off Evans and/or Fredette, gives us two expiring contracts AND a possible piece in J.J. Hickson.
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by Mitchell Maurer on Jan 31, 2012 3:07 PM CST reply actions
We'd have enough Power forwards to build a team solely made up of them
That would likely have to be a precursor to another deal involving one of our forwards, methinks.
by Jacob Grinyer on Jan 31, 2012 3:37 PM CST up reply actions
Wonder why the Kings
Would want another wing, don’t they have enough? and getting two guys back sucks, rahter send two and get one.
"He always plays like he's a pit bull that hasn't been fed in about a year and that you've got pork chops in your pockets and that's the basketball." Of course, he's Canadian
Here is another possibilty..
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=89kmxhx
Bucks Add: Kaman (for one season only most likely)
Rookie PF/C Jordan Williams (can cut/send to D-League, but will develop well)
Hornets Add: Okur (for one season then have 10 mil in cap space for FA)
Larry Sanders (young guy seemingly a good fit w.Hornets)
Nets Add: Jackson while freeing up another 2mil while still keeping likely package of Lopez/Brooks available for the Howard deal
by Charlie_Buckets on Jan 31, 2012 4:16 PM CST reply actions
Not ready to give up on Sanders yet personally
especially not for that haul. The only guys I want tagging along in a trade are Brockman and maybe Hobson.
Actually I'd be a fool not to trade Gooden or Udrih
but Gooden sure is making himself valuable right now.
Brooks broke a toe
Wonder if that will screw things up, again i would just rather trade for Okur straight up.
"He always plays like he's a pit bull that hasn't been fed in about a year and that you've got pork chops in your pockets and that's the basketball." Of course, he's Canadian
Bucks get in with the Magic and Lakers
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=6wlfr43
this one has potential and i think helps all parties involved
by Charlie_Buckets on Jan 31, 2012 4:37 PM CST reply actions
Then DWill bolts
"He always plays like he's a pit bull that hasn't been fed in about a year and that you've got pork chops in your pockets and that's the basketball." Of course, he's Canadian
you don't think that DWIll and Bynum would be a super dirty pick and roll?
with morrow and humphries?
either way, i think we’re all pretty much in agreement whatever happens with either Kaman or Okur we are basically all just looking for a trade where we rent one of these guys til May (or June hopefully) and then have that 9-10 milllions free to go after somebody next summer.
It will be interesting to see what happens in the next 45 days, but I have a feeling that the Buck will be involved in some facet
by Charlie_Buckets on Jan 31, 2012 6:25 PM CST up reply actions
Hammond pulled off the trade last summer that surprised everyone.
Dealing out the 10th pick, Maggette and Salmons contracts/corpses and managing to get two players who were better fits for their roster and a promising rookie. I say two players because Jax hasn’t fit as well as hoped.
I think any Jax trade this season will surprise in a similar manner.
Anything expiring contract for Jax
I like Morrow as a shooter but he doesn’t play D. He’ll be buried on the bench next to Harris and Brockman. You have to play D for Skiles or you don’t play. Take Humphries and his 1 year deal, he plays D and is a great rebounder. Just don’t give up to much when the Bucks are beginning to gell.
I just think Okur is a better option
he can backup Gooden and he is expiring as well. But Hump is ok too
"He always plays like he's a pit bull that hasn't been fed in about a year and that you've got pork chops in your pockets and that's the basketball." Of course, he's Canadian
I dont like it but this seems feasible
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=74mw8pa
I know the magic want bogut, as a replacement for howard.
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