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Bucks vs. Clippers Preview: Milwaukee Looks To Rebound Against New-Look Clippers

2011/2012 NBA Season

vs.
2-4 (0-4 road)3-2 (2-1 home)
January 7, 2012
Staples Center
9:30 PM CT
Radio: 1250 WSSP TV: FSN Wisconsin
Probable starters:
Brandon Jennings
PG Chris Paul
Carlos Delfino SG Chauncey Billups
Stephen Jackson SF Caron Butler
Ersan Ilyasova
PF Blake Griffin
Drew Gooden C DeAndre Jordan

(27th) 97.8 - OFFENSE - 110.6 (1st)
(5th) 97.3 - DEFENSE - 107.5 (26th)
(6th) 94.4 - PACE - 91.5 (18th)

On the Clippers: Clips Nation / ClipperBlog / Los Angeles Times

The Milwaukee Bucks continue to search for their first road win after blowing a 21-point halftime lead in Sacramento. In their only trip to the Staples Center this year, the Bucks face the new-and-improved Los Angeles Clippers.

Milwaukee will be without Andrew Bogut for the third straight game. According to the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel, Bogut is dealing with a family issue in Melbourne, Australia. He may return in time for the Bucks' home game against San Antonio on Tuesday. Mike Dunleavy and Luc Mbah a Moute are both dealing with lingering injuries and are likely to miss the game as well.

So that's fun.

Update: Jim Paschke has said on Twitter that Beno Udrih is unlikely to play tonight, but Tobias Harris might make his long-anticipated Bucks debut. Thanks to Brick's house for pointing this out in the comments. Hopefully they've got plenty of water in Staples.


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Star-divide

Battle For Los Angeles. For years, the Clippers have been the "other" team in LA, overshadowed by the Lakers' star power and success. Oh, how the tables have turned. When the Lakers proposed three-team trade to acquire superstar PG Chris Paul was vetoed by NBA Commissioner David Stern, the Clippers seized the chance to swoop in and grab him. It cost the Clips many of their most valuable assets, including rising star Eric Gordon and the unprotected first-round pick from Minnesota, but it has propelled them to the upper echelon of the Western Conference. Meanwhile, the Lakers are battling chemistry concerns and Kobe Bryant's injured wrist. It's too early to declare the balance of power shifted, but the Clippers definitely can't be considered the dysfunctional cousin anymore.

What is HAPPENING at Halftime? The Bucks rank 3rd in the NBA in 1st-half points per game at 52.8, behind only Miami and Oklahoma City. They're also holding their opponents to 43 points per game in the first half. After the break? Milwaukee is dead last with only 39.5 2nd-half points per game and gives up 48.8. Over an 82 game season, 1st-half Milwaukee would project as a 78-win team by Pythagorean Win Expectancy. 2nd-half Milwaukee would project as a four-win team.

Rebounding Without Bogut. The Bucks lost at Sacramento not just because their crunch-time offense was a clearout for Stephen Jackson, but because they got absolutely hammered on the boards. The Kings recorded an offensive rebound rate of 48.9, which means almost half of their missed shots ended up back in their hands. Andrew Bogut is the best defensive rebounder on the roster, so his absence at least partially explains the issue, but against the Kings nearly every player in the Bucks' frontcourt underperformed on the boards versus his career numbers. Surprisingly enough, the Clippers are one of the worst rebounding teams in the NBA, so hopefully Milwaukee won't feel so much pressure. Still, just one missed box-out is all Blake Griffin needs for an emphatic offensive slam-back.

Brandon's Swinging Swagger. After the Bucks obliterated the Washington Wizards at home on December 30th (ahh, good old 2011...), Jeremy Schmidt at Bucksketball excitedly wondered if Brandon Jennings had gotten his swag back. Then he missed 26 of his next 35 shots as the Bucks fell to Denver and Utah. Suddenly it looked like Jennings' promising start to the season was nothing more than another blip on the radar of his career--a flash of style and substance that served only to raise our hopes again. So then we were all depressed and miserable, and he says, "Hey guys, I remembered how to shoot threes!" and scores 31 points. Such is the life of a hypertensive Bucks fan. Would it surprise anybody if Jennings went for 38 tonight? What about 9?

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According to Paschke's twitter:
Beno Udrih is not likely to play vs the Clippers tonight. Tobias Harris may make his Bucks debut. 9:30 on FS Wisconsin
Just to be clear. No Dunleavy and no Bogut tonight vs Clippers. Tweeps asking, so we answer. #BeMILWAUKEE

I don’t see a realistic chance to beat the well rested Clippers tonight, so it makes sense to rest Udrih, Dunleavy and hopefully Luc so that they are fresh and ready for the Suns game (fingers crossed). It also gives Skiles a chance to give Harris and Hobson some minutes tonight. Here’s to the youth movement.

by Brick's house on Jan 7, 2012 3:01 PM CST reply actions  

I hope Jennings shows some of that good D we keep hearing about

If he can in any way stop Paul, we might have a chance. Jackson matches up well on Billups, Ersan will do enough to keep Caron Butler inefficient. What it will come down to is the paint, and Sanders is not ready for the big show yet. Griffin and Jordan have the potential to destroy us. This will be another game in which our hopes lie in Drew Gooden and Jon Leuer.

Note: We absolutely cannot go two points in this game. It would be nonsensical. With the Clippers routinely running an undersized shooting guard, we have to exploit that matchup and get out bigger shooter in to rain threes. Without a torrent of triples I don’t see how we win this.

by MadTown Hoops on Jan 7, 2012 3:40 PM CST up reply actions  

Without Udrih, the only other PG on the team is Livingston,

so the Bucks will be playing guys w/ size alongside Jennings tonight, no matter what.

The one good thing about starting Ilyasova and Gooden against the Clippers is that their perimeter shooting can pull Jordan out of the lane, opening up driving lanes for Livingston, Jennings, Jackson, etc. But I see Griffin drinking the Bucks’ milkshake all night tonight on the offensive end.

by Brick's house on Jan 7, 2012 3:47 PM CST up reply actions  

Terrible or not, he's still the closest thing to a shooting guard on this team

I though Harris was a tweener forward. We have small forwards in abundance. His playing time would still be lousy. Less options is never a good thing, especially when that option is one of three people on the team that can hit threes

by MadTown Hoops on Jan 8, 2012 12:05 AM CST up reply actions  

Hoping Harris plays tonight

Something to look forward to although we won one in LA last year we had no right to

"He always plays like he's a pit bull that hasn't been fed in about a year and that you've got pork chops in your pockets and that's the basketball." Of course, he's Canadian

by CanadaBucks on Jan 7, 2012 3:11 PM CST reply actions  

I don't think a 19th pick has ever been so anticipated

I have no expectations of greatness, but with the, sigh, injury problem (is it a curse yet?) we will be ecstatic if he shows any ability to score. If he can drive he will be regarded as a savior. You can’t expect much from picks after the first fifteen in a weak draft, but let’s hope he’s more Danny Granger than Shawne Williams.

The key for the Clippers is they have a steady veteran presence that can make big shots in Chauncey. The Bucks have floundered while trying to fill that role with John Salmons, Corey Maggette, Drew Gooden and Stephen Jackson. Our struggles are sadly not that shocking with the environment coupled with injuries.

by MadTown Hoops on Jan 7, 2012 3:32 PM CST up reply actions  

much of the anticipation

(though not in this forum) has been tied to eagerness to dump on him as another Hammonds flop. I wish him well in avoiding that fate.

by unklchuk on Jan 7, 2012 3:59 PM CST up reply actions  

Seems like Hammond(s) and Bryan Colangelo have something in common

Most of the great moves they make are to nullify the crappy moves

"He always plays like he's a pit bull that hasn't been fed in about a year and that you've got pork chops in your pockets and that's the basketball." Of course, he's Canadian

by CanadaBucks on Jan 7, 2012 5:37 PM CST up reply actions  

BTW Mbah a Moute is experiencing knee pain and I fear it's the next Bucks trainer horror story

If they mess up his knee, he won’t have the one skill that makes him an NBA player. My prediction, based on the fact that I have no faith in our training staff, is that three weeks from now a second opinion will reveal a torn MCL, ACL and a missing patella.

by MadTown Hoops on Jan 7, 2012 3:46 PM CST reply actions  

Tonight's game

…is the first full implementation of my new Minimum Standards policy,. It will be DVR-ed. Later, before any viewing, I will check in here to see IF it’s worth watching. And if so, what parts are worth watching.

I am reluctant to have to practice Tough Love toward my favorite team. If anyone notices my behavior or my words on it, some will call it (openly or in the privacy of their thoughts) being a weak Fair Weather Fan. (Even though I think that’s a unsupportable accusation against anyone who spends the Winter in Wisconsin.) None of that shall deter me.

I will not enable or co-enable (or whatever the current jargon is) the Milwaukee Bucks practice of zombie ball. Our team not having the head nor heart to give a full effort cannot be condoned. When the franchise checks the karmic grid after tonight’s game, they (if the game goes as I expect) will be surprised to see a hole in Appleton WI — precisely where they are accustomed to seeing a bright star of loyal support. Let it be a lesson to them…

Robert Burton said it all in the 16th century, after giving the populace what they wanted with the more popular soundbite. Later in his library he cursed under his breath, threw his glass of whiskey against the fireplace bricks, and declaimed: "WTF! What can’t be endured must be cured!!"

Burton, although he held prominence as an Oxford scholar and religious official, must have been a Milwaukee Bucks fan at heart. He is famous for penning the classic The Anatomy of Melancholy. That work does not mention the Bucks by name (it would have destroyed his good reputation) but the inspiration is obvious.


[reposted since it belongs in this thread] [I like “The Anatomy of Melancholy” as the natural name for a book on the Milwaukee Bucks]

by unklchuk on Jan 7, 2012 3:52 PM CST reply actions  

Harris

Be great to see him make a bit of an impression tonight, to a victory or even a blowout loss. Seems more likely that he won’t be ready or won’t be able to show whatever quickness he has. And Skiles will say, “At least we got him a few minutes. That’s a start on his way back.”

Since I’ve been a designated Hobsonite, I’ll be hoping he gets 12+ minutes.

by unklchuk on Jan 7, 2012 3:57 PM CST reply actions  

Dan, you get double points if "rebound" was an intentional double entendre in preview title.

Otherwise, just 1.5x points for a solid preview.

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by Steve von Horn on Jan 7, 2012 4:58 PM CST via mobile reply actions  

You better believe it.

Left it out of the title, but the Twitter drop included a “Pun intended” tag.

And no, I totally did not only realize it was a pun halfway through writing it. It was my intention all along and not just a lucky coincidence that I am now taking credit for. I CAN’T HEAR YOU NYAH NYAH NYAH.

by Dan Sinclair on Jan 7, 2012 5:56 PM CST up reply actions  

I'd like to see

not a win, that might be asking for too much, but

1) 20 minutes of Leuer
2) 20 minutes of Sanders
3) 15 minutes of Harris
4) 10 minutes of Hobson
5) 24 seconds of Brockman
6) A set lob play for Brockman on DeAndre Jordan

by FearTheDeer on Jan 7, 2012 6:09 PM CST reply actions  

#6

Haha…

Brockman could stand to reclaim some of his manhood…

by Frank Madden on Jan 7, 2012 6:15 PM CST up reply actions  

I would launch a point-shaving investigation immediately if #6 came true.

Good stuff though.

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by Steve von Horn on Jan 7, 2012 6:34 PM CST up reply actions  

I'd settle for any Hobson

I’m not sure he actually exists.

I never use a big word when a diminutive word would suffice.

by TheJay on Jan 7, 2012 7:16 PM CST up reply actions  

I am debating whether to even watch tonight.

If he Saints blow out the Lions, maybe I will switch.

by tommyr on Jan 7, 2012 6:26 PM CST reply actions  

Remember, this is a late start. Should be able to catch most of the Bucks anyways.

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by Steve von Horn on Jan 7, 2012 6:35 PM CST up reply actions  

Lol. I couldn't blame ya tommy, I honestly couldn't blame ya.

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by Steve von Horn on Jan 7, 2012 6:42 PM CST up reply actions  

It will be a game-time decision

Just made myself and my wife a strawberry margarita. Maybe I am sub-consciously getting myself into a good mood for the game. ;)

by tommyr on Jan 7, 2012 6:47 PM CST up reply actions  

Or practicing for the many more you will make tonight.

by Dan Sinclair on Jan 7, 2012 6:48 PM CST up reply actions  

In all honesty, I am curious as heck t see Tobias tonight.

Hopefully, Mr. Skiles will oblige me. Besides, I have been a Bucks fan for far longer than him.

by tommyr on Jan 7, 2012 6:51 PM CST up reply actions  

I’d watch no matter what, but Chris Paul and Blake Griffin!?! Always worth watching.

by Dan Sinclair on Jan 7, 2012 6:34 PM CST reply actions  

I finally have DVR, my 50" HDTV and the Bucks TV crew back, so that is cause enough for celebration.

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by Steve von Horn on Jan 7, 2012 6:38 PM CST up reply actions  

clipsnationer stopping in

any chance we’ll get to see Shaun Livingston play tonight? I haven’t really seen him in action since his clipper days. How’s he playing this season?

by cantthinkofagoodname on Jan 7, 2012 7:52 PM CST reply actions  

Pretty well.

He plays any position from the 1, 2, or 3 for us as Skiles loves multiple PGs in at the same time. He will go down in the post occasionally and try to create from there with decent success. Overall, he has been a solid backup.

by Superelkman on Jan 7, 2012 7:55 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah, especially with Udrih out

Livingston has played the vast majority of his minutes at the 2/3 so curious to see him get some more minutes at the 1 (as in the Utah game).

I think he’s been a really good addition—gives the Bucks a different look with his size, often defended the other team’s best backcourt player, nice mid-range/post up game, and still has enough athleticism to finish around the hoop.

by Frank Madden on Jan 7, 2012 8:00 PM CST up reply actions  

That's good news!

still remember days when he would be one of our best perimeter defenders.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRP6Sy8ICwA

it’s interesting that you classify him as a 2/3, has he increased his shooting range (which was only from the foul line) or is it just because of his size?

by cantthinkofagoodname on Jan 7, 2012 8:11 PM CST up reply actions  

Unfortunately no...

The 2/3 stuff has largely been a matter of personnel—Bucks have been short on the wings in early going and Jennings/Udrih need to get their minutes as well. Been a bit surprised at how much we’ve seen all three on the court at the same time. Certainly doesn’t hurt the Bucks’ ball movement, which can otherwise be an issue at times.

by Frank Madden on Jan 7, 2012 8:15 PM CST up reply actions  

He's been on of the few good surprises...

Obviously doesn’t take over entire games or anything but he’s a good addition to this team… he and Leuer and the cool additions this year that have kinda come out of nowhere. Won’t get you to the playoffs by themselves but I’d like for them both to get as much playing time as opposed to players who have been continuously making mistakes/letting down/playing badly.

by kanyon on Jan 7, 2012 8:18 PM CST up reply actions  

That or we'll just have to hope and pray that Jackson improves

I don’t think Skiles isn’t going to bench him any time soon and even if he does there’s no telling how he’ll respond to that.

by Jacob Grinyer on Jan 7, 2012 8:21 PM CST up reply actions  

It'd be nice if Jack didn't get 35 mpg automatically every night

Wizards game should be how Skiles handles it…play him when he’s fine, bench him when other guys are playing well. Unfortunately missing Dunleavy/Udrih doesn’t help in terms of giving Skiles other options.

by Frank Madden on Jan 7, 2012 8:23 PM CST up reply actions  

He can lead from the bench.

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by Steve von Horn on Jan 7, 2012 8:24 PM CST up reply actions  

Well when I wrote the piece that said he sucked at basketball, everyone said he's a leader.

If it has nothing to do with his play, I’d love to see him lead from the bench :)

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by Steve von Horn on Jan 7, 2012 8:32 PM CST up reply actions  

He's a leader when we win

not so much when we lose

"He always plays like he's a pit bull that hasn't been fed in about a year and that you've got pork chops in your pockets and that's the basketball." Of course, he's Canadian

by CanadaBucks on Jan 7, 2012 8:51 PM CST up reply actions  

Haha, exactly.

It’s got so much meaning it ends up having none.

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by Steve von Horn on Jan 7, 2012 8:53 PM CST up reply actions  

It's like the chemistry question I submitted for our Weltman interview

Always seems like a proxy for wins and losses. In this case it’s a proxy for experience and reputation

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by Steve von Horn on Jan 7, 2012 8:54 PM CST up reply actions  

Chemistry is probably the most overused term in sports

Mid 70s Yankees all hated each other but they won.

"He always plays like he's a pit bull that hasn't been fed in about a year and that you've got pork chops in your pockets and that's the basketball." Of course, he's Canadian

by CanadaBucks on Jan 7, 2012 8:57 PM CST up reply actions  

Yup.

I promise to not be that lazy in my analysis.

I do believe in a chemistry of talents though. Something the Bucks are still searching for… desperately, I might add.

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by Steve von Horn on Jan 7, 2012 9:00 PM CST up reply actions  

True but

you could use the Sixers with free, Erving, McGinnis etc. not sure they were all on the same page team wise and they made out ok

"He always plays like he's a pit bull that hasn't been fed in about a year and that you've got pork chops in your pockets and that's the basketball." Of course, he's Canadian

by CanadaBucks on Jan 7, 2012 9:02 PM CST up reply actions  

Salmons and Delfino of last year(and Jennings too tbh)

Played no matter how crappy yhey were. thought i saw a glimmer of hope when he benched Ilyasova and delfino after 4 minutes the other night, but it didn’t apply to jax. Hobson tonight plox

"He always plays like he's a pit bull that hasn't been fed in about a year and that you've got pork chops in your pockets and that's the basketball." Of course, he's Canadian

by CanadaBucks on Jan 7, 2012 8:30 PM CST up reply actions  

That's my biggest concern

The relationship between Skiles and Jax seems exactly like Skiles and Salmons. Not just that he’ll leave him on the court no matter what, but he’s the “crunch time guy” almost by default.

I hate to have him sit on the bench for the rest of the season and just be a disgruntled locker room antagonist, but so far he’s been better for the team on the bench than the court.

by Dan Sinclair on Jan 7, 2012 8:34 PM CST up reply actions  

I think at least Salmons would be willing to be more flexible if Skiles wanted it that way

I think Jackson sees it as being partially an imperative that he gets a certain amount of minutes. But I could be wrong.

by Jacob Grinyer on Jan 7, 2012 8:37 PM CST up reply actions  

tangent time....

So i decided to look back through this blog looking for how the SJax situation is playing out… (last i heard he was demanding an extension with 2 years(!!!) left on his deal)….

Anyway, I stumbled upon this. http://www.brewhoop.com/2011/12/21/2652108/bucks-nba-offseason-deandre-jordan-jj-barea-caron-butler-glen-davis

I’m not sure our signings were that bad… lol we shall see in a few years though…

by cantthinkofagoodname on Jan 7, 2012 8:57 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm with you!

I’m staging a mutiny against the overlords, at least on DeAndre. Didn’t mind that signing. The Big Baby trade was really dumb for Orlando, though. He’s pretty awful.

by Dan Sinclair on Jan 7, 2012 9:00 PM CST up reply actions  

Is Jordan staying in at the end of close games right now?

Just curious.

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by Steve von Horn on Jan 7, 2012 9:01 PM CST up reply actions  

our games haven't been really close so far...

the only team that has tried a hack a deandre was our 1st game against GSW (and they did it in the 3rd quarter to get themselves back in the game a bit)

however, I will say he has put in great work since that game and it shows in his shot. one reporter even tweeted he beat CP3 in a FT shooting contest after practice the other day. (for whatever that’s worth) But I will say that there will be improvement this season…. wile he be 85%? probably not, but probably above 60% this season

by cantthinkofagoodname on Jan 7, 2012 9:05 PM CST up reply actions  

Interesting stuff, thanks for the detail.

I am interested to see if I like anything in his game this year. Last season he seemed like too much a roamer on shot blocking and gave up some easy points at the rim when the extra pass was made.

Sounds like he’s been improving.

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by Steve von Horn on Jan 7, 2012 9:08 PM CST up reply actions  

If you guys go deep in the playoffs

They were good signings…if not……….

"He always plays like he's a pit bull that hasn't been fed in about a year and that you've got pork chops in your pockets and that's the basketball." Of course, he's Canadian

by CanadaBucks on Jan 7, 2012 9:01 PM CST up reply actions  

Two reasons

Size would be the first, but the second would be the desire to play Brandon Jennings in two guard lineups so he can spot up shoot at times.

We’d all like to see Livingston play PG, but it’s hard to find him minutes without a smaller guard on the floor, which takes away his size advantage and post game to a certain degree

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by Steve von Horn on Jan 7, 2012 8:16 PM CST up reply actions  

ohhh ok. Good for Shaun though! One of my top 10 favorite clippers of all time.

The clippers dont have a SG either (Billips, CP3, mo williams & bledsoe when he returns are all 1’s and dont think of themselves as 2’s) so it should make for a fun matchup tonight!

Best of luck!

by cantthinkofagoodname on Jan 7, 2012 8:24 PM CST up reply actions  

Thanks, you too.

Enjoy the game!

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by Steve von Horn on Jan 7, 2012 8:24 PM CST up reply actions  

Honestly, I hope not

Or perhaps I should say, I hope that’s not what it takes. This Bucks team has looked its best when they get out and run, so hopefully guys like Gooden and Ersan can handle the boards themselves, at least a little better than they did in Sacramento.

by Dan Sinclair on Jan 7, 2012 8:38 PM CST up reply actions  

I vote more Brockman

Seriously the one thing he is decent at is rebounding.

"He always plays like he's a pit bull that hasn't been fed in about a year and that you've got pork chops in your pockets and that's the basketball." Of course, he's Canadian

by CanadaBucks on Jan 7, 2012 8:39 PM CST up reply actions  

See how Griffin likes the flying elbow drop

"He always plays like he's a pit bull that hasn't been fed in about a year and that you've got pork chops in your pockets and that's the basketball." Of course, he's Canadian

by CanadaBucks on Jan 7, 2012 8:42 PM CST up reply actions  

Just need to remember which teams

Players to injure

"He always plays like he's a pit bull that hasn't been fed in about a year and that you've got pork chops in your pockets and that's the basketball." Of course, he's Canadian

by CanadaBucks on Jan 7, 2012 8:45 PM CST up reply actions  

I need an adult....

I need an adult…

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by Steve von Horn on Jan 7, 2012 8:45 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

I can feel the excitement in here for tonight's game.

I can feel it

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by Steve von Horn on Jan 7, 2012 9:27 PM CST reply actions   1 recs

Where?

"He always plays like he's a pit bull that hasn't been fed in about a year and that you've got pork chops in your pockets and that's the basketball." Of course, he's Canadian

by CanadaBucks on Jan 7, 2012 9:28 PM CST up reply actions  

That's why I said feel.

I can’t see it yet. :)

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by Steve von Horn on Jan 7, 2012 9:28 PM CST up reply actions  

sure that's not indigestion?

"He always plays like he's a pit bull that hasn't been fed in about a year and that you've got pork chops in your pockets and that's the basketball." Of course, he's Canadian

by CanadaBucks on Jan 7, 2012 9:29 PM CST up reply actions  

It might be, check with me after the first quarter.

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by Steve von Horn on Jan 7, 2012 9:31 PM CST up reply actions  

Clippers fan?

"He always plays like he's a pit bull that hasn't been fed in about a year and that you've got pork chops in your pockets and that's the basketball." Of course, he's Canadian

by CanadaBucks on Jan 7, 2012 9:30 PM CST up reply actions  

I guessed when you said the game would be fun

Don’t worry if you’re getting blown out in the first half though

"He always plays like he's a pit bull that hasn't been fed in about a year and that you've got pork chops in your pockets and that's the basketball." Of course, he's Canadian

by CanadaBucks on Jan 7, 2012 9:31 PM CST up reply actions  

oh yeah, the bucks a scrappy bunch. i like the bucks don’t get me wrong. if the clippers decide not to play it could be a very close game.

by senelcoolidge on Jan 7, 2012 9:32 PM CST up reply actions  

You're right

Some of us are a little jaded atm

"He always plays like he's a pit bull that hasn't been fed in about a year and that you've got pork chops in your pockets and that's the basketball." Of course, he's Canadian

by CanadaBucks on Jan 7, 2012 9:34 PM CST up reply actions  

The Nuggets are shooting 62% from the field on the road with 5 minutes to go in the 4th quarter, and they are losing...weird stuff

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by Steve von Horn on Jan 7, 2012 9:33 PM CST reply actions  

Hold on

People can shoot that high in the second half?

by Jacob Grinyer on Jan 7, 2012 9:39 PM CST up reply actions  

Did Jefferson not get amnestied after all?

I see he’s still on the Spurs

"He always plays like he's a pit bull that hasn't been fed in about a year and that you've got pork chops in your pockets and that's the basketball." Of course, he's Canadian

by CanadaBucks on Jan 7, 2012 9:43 PM CST up reply actions  

Maybe he just showed up anyways and nobody had the heart to send him home.

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by Steve von Horn on Jan 7, 2012 9:46 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

staples

Pretty sweet arena. Very LA. Upper bowl is tiny relative to lower….wish the same could be said of the BC.

by Frank Madden on Jan 7, 2012 9:40 PM CST via iPhone app reply actions  

You could say the same about the Bucks roster.

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by Steve von Horn on Jan 7, 2012 9:42 PM CST up reply actions  

I hate how the media portrays Milwaukee

We really are the joke of the media, I watched ESPN earlier pick the top 5 in the East and the guy goes “Don’t be afraid to throw Scotty Skiles and the Bucks up there if you want” then at the end “so no Scotty Skiles? uh no” Nobody gets the media slack Milwaukee gets.

I say that to say: It was nice to see Fratello stand up for the Bucks a bit and give us the disclaimer about how big it is that Bogut has been out.

by FearTheDeer on Jan 7, 2012 9:43 PM CST reply actions  

I think if we continue to shoot 14%

we likely wont win

"He always plays like he's a pit bull that hasn't been fed in about a year and that you've got pork chops in your pockets and that's the basketball." Of course, he's Canadian

by CanadaBucks on Jan 7, 2012 9:51 PM CST reply actions  

Gooden could use a brain

He’s just prancing around out there like a fairy

by FearTheDeer on Jan 7, 2012 9:53 PM CST up reply actions  

Good fairy or bad fairy?

"He always plays like he's a pit bull that hasn't been fed in about a year and that you've got pork chops in your pockets and that's the basketball." Of course, he's Canadian

by CanadaBucks on Jan 7, 2012 9:54 PM CST up reply actions  

Ersan looks just as ugly operating in the post as I expected him to look.

That’s a relief.

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by Steve von Horn on Jan 7, 2012 9:51 PM CST reply actions  

Probably why he's still on our roster

"He always plays like he's a pit bull that hasn't been fed in about a year and that you've got pork chops in your pockets and that's the basketball." Of course, he's Canadian

by CanadaBucks on Jan 7, 2012 9:53 PM CST up reply actions  

Man what I would give to see Livingston get a shot at playing PG without Jennings on the floor.

Really would be nice to see a Chauncey Billups type post package lineup for him.

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by Steve von Horn on Jan 7, 2012 9:54 PM CST up reply actions  

Was that ugly or what?

Looked like he was trying to shake spiders off his arm.

by tommyr on Jan 7, 2012 9:53 PM CST up reply actions  

That's positive reinforcement, folks.

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by Steve von Horn on Jan 7, 2012 9:55 PM CST up reply actions  

Checking in

to watch some good defense and some shooting as always

by palomba on Jan 7, 2012 9:55 PM CST reply actions  

Hey palomba, how ya doing?

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by Steve von Horn on Jan 7, 2012 9:55 PM CST up reply actions  

Just fine, Steve

spending some holidays on Chile. Again watching the game from an hotel room, this time with better wifi connection :)

by palomba on Jan 7, 2012 10:02 PM CST up reply actions  

That's good to hear. Hopefully Carlos can keep up his fine start to the night.

He’s been worth watching so far when it comes to Bucks players.

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by Steve von Horn on Jan 7, 2012 10:03 PM CST up reply actions  

Yup

hopefully he can improve his shooting accuracy

by palomba on Jan 7, 2012 10:08 PM CST up reply actions  

harris is in uniform correct?

"He always plays like he's a pit bull that hasn't been fed in about a year and that you've got pork chops in your pockets and that's the basketball." Of course, he's Canadian

by CanadaBucks on Jan 7, 2012 9:55 PM CST reply actions  

Yup.

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by Steve von Horn on Jan 7, 2012 9:55 PM CST up reply actions  

Future ROY Tobias harris?

"He always plays like he's a pit bull that hasn't been fed in about a year and that you've got pork chops in your pockets and that's the basketball." Of course, he's Canadian

by CanadaBucks on Jan 7, 2012 9:56 PM CST up reply actions  

Lol.

Apparently he’ll have to win the trophy in a bet with Leuer.

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by Steve von Horn on Jan 7, 2012 9:57 PM CST up reply actions  

Why does the phrase "the Bucks aren't out of it yet"

seem so much more accurate than the phrase “the Bucks are still in it?”

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by Steve von Horn on Jan 7, 2012 9:57 PM CST reply actions  

Especially haflway thru the first!

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by Big Crazy Dave on Jan 7, 2012 9:58 PM CST up reply actions  

Whew shooting 20% now

"He always plays like he's a pit bull that hasn't been fed in about a year and that you've got pork chops in your pockets and that's the basketball." Of course, he's Canadian

by CanadaBucks on Jan 7, 2012 9:57 PM CST reply actions  

Clippers were just admiring Jennings right there.

by Jacob Grinyer on Jan 7, 2012 9:58 PM CST reply actions  

He's pretty quick

And a good finisher when NOBODY rotates to stop him.

by Dan Sinclair on Jan 7, 2012 9:59 PM CST up reply actions  

They wanted to let him use his left.

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by Steve von Horn on Jan 7, 2012 9:59 PM CST up reply actions  

Whoever thought Mo Williams was worth a big contract?

"He always plays like he's a pit bull that hasn't been fed in about a year and that you've got pork chops in your pockets and that's the basketball." Of course, he's Canadian

by CanadaBucks on Jan 7, 2012 9:59 PM CST reply actions  

OH GOD

Did that FS Wisconsin cut give anybody else a headache?

by Dan Sinclair on Jan 7, 2012 10:01 PM CST reply actions  

Livingston vs Mo is the type of matchup that makes me smile.

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by Steve von Horn on Jan 7, 2012 10:04 PM CST reply actions  

My favorite thing about Larry Sanders is that he might actually have the most effective challenge on jumpshots of any player I have ever seen.

Some combination of his length and his penchant from being far enough from the hoop to do it, but Sanders always makes jumpshooters look incredibly terrible when he is there to challenge.

It’s a small joy, but a joy none the less.

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by Steve von Horn on Jan 7, 2012 10:08 PM CST reply actions  

We'll take what we can get these days ;)

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by Big Crazy Dave on Jan 7, 2012 10:09 PM CST up reply actions  

Down 3 after 1 when you shoot 26% isn't too bad

except I feel the Clips will explode any second

"He always plays like he's a pit bull that hasn't been fed in about a year and that you've got pork chops in your pockets and that's the basketball." Of course, he's Canadian

by CanadaBucks on Jan 7, 2012 10:09 PM CST reply actions  

FROY Harris please

"He always plays like he's a pit bull that hasn't been fed in about a year and that you've got pork chops in your pockets and that's the basketball." Of course, he's Canadian

by CanadaBucks on Jan 7, 2012 10:10 PM CST up reply actions  

And the Bucks are up 1....

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by Big Crazy Dave on Jan 7, 2012 10:11 PM CST reply actions  

...were...

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by Big Crazy Dave on Jan 7, 2012 10:12 PM CST up reply actions  

Sanders...

Doing his best to force Harris into committing a charge…

by Dan Sinclair on Jan 7, 2012 10:11 PM CST reply actions  

Brockness in...game over already?

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by Big Crazy Dave on Jan 7, 2012 10:12 PM CST reply actions  

yay, first round points!

I never use a big word when a diminutive word would suffice.

by TheJay on Jan 7, 2012 10:12 PM CST reply actions  

W000000000t

Take that marshawn

"He always plays like he's a pit bull that hasn't been fed in about a year and that you've got pork chops in your pockets and that's the basketball." Of course, he's Canadian

by CanadaBucks on Jan 7, 2012 10:13 PM CST reply actions  

You take that back!

The only thing Marshawn will take is shots.

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by Steve von Horn on Jan 7, 2012 10:15 PM CST up reply actions  

Harris on pace to make 67% of his shots and have the other 33% blocked by Blake Griffin.

by Dan Sinclair on Jan 7, 2012 10:14 PM CST reply actions  

Lol.

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by Steve von Horn on Jan 7, 2012 10:14 PM CST up reply actions  

I say whoever has the recap tonight has to refrain from using the term "welcome to the NBA" for anything on Harris.

Please….for the love of creativity and avoidance of obligatory sports tropes….I beg of you Dan/Frank.

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by Steve von Horn on Jan 7, 2012 10:14 PM CST reply actions  

Too late

I’ve already saved the permalink as …welcome-to-the-nba-tobias-harris-kobe-is-clutch-lebron-suckzzzz

by Dan Sinclair on Jan 7, 2012 10:16 PM CST up reply actions   2 recs

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

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by Steve von Horn on Jan 7, 2012 10:16 PM CST up reply actions  

Should Jax be worried all of a sudden....?

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by Big Crazy Dave on Jan 7, 2012 10:14 PM CST reply actions  

Paycheck is guaranteed.

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by Steve von Horn on Jan 7, 2012 10:15 PM CST up reply actions  

I was thinking more of his starter's spot ;)

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by Big Crazy Dave on Jan 7, 2012 10:16 PM CST up reply actions  

Haha, I know.

I’m sure he won’t be shy about it if it bothers him. Doesn’t strike me as the type.

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by Steve von Horn on Jan 7, 2012 10:17 PM CST up reply actions  

With Skiles as coach?

"He always plays like he's a pit bull that hasn't been fed in about a year and that you've got pork chops in your pockets and that's the basketball." Of course, he's Canadian

by CanadaBucks on Jan 7, 2012 10:16 PM CST up reply actions  

The NBAtv announcers are funny.

Talking about how the Clippers should be killing us right now.

by rulesofredd on Jan 7, 2012 10:21 PM CST reply actions  

The Bucks are shooting .333/.143/.571 right now, so I do get it.

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by Steve von Horn on Jan 7, 2012 10:22 PM CST up reply actions  

That's FG% / 3PT% / FT%

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by Steve von Horn on Jan 7, 2012 10:23 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm not saying I disagree

but we’re like the annoying little brother that is sticking around. “Oh, isn’t that nice….they play good defense.” lol

by rulesofredd on Jan 7, 2012 10:23 PM CST up reply actions  

Yea, they probably spent all day on the network hyping Lob City, and now they get this...

Trying to regroup for the Bucks-themed slopfest we’ve got here. :)

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by Steve von Horn on Jan 7, 2012 10:25 PM CST up reply actions  

only Utah have shot above 42% against us this year

Is that because we play good D or our inept shooting is morbidly infectious?

by AussieTom on Jan 7, 2012 10:23 PM CST reply actions  

Bit of column A, bit of column B ;)

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by Big Crazy Dave on Jan 7, 2012 10:24 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

I want you to sign off with Gardettos more often.

It has a certain flair and class to it.

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by Steve von Horn on Jan 7, 2012 10:25 PM CST up reply actions  

Gooden leading rebounder for both teams....

…and he’s played half the minutes of Griffin……

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by Big Crazy Dave on Jan 7, 2012 10:28 PM CST reply actions  

That should have a foul on Evans

Evans was moving on that pick that Jackson ran through him

by FearTheDeer on Jan 7, 2012 10:29 PM CST reply actions  

Ersan doesn't deserve a ton of calls

but getting one occasionally would be nice. Gets bowled over by Paul and then called for over the back.

by rulesofredd on Jan 7, 2012 10:30 PM CST reply actions  

If you point a mirror at the TV while Reggie Evans is shooting the ball, what happens? Does it crack the TV or the mirror?

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by Steve von Horn on Jan 7, 2012 10:30 PM CST reply actions  

I agree

the refs haven’t given him calls back to back to back, but then coming down on the other end he just was out of it. Livingston wanted him to post up and he looked like he was zoned out. “Oh oh yeah, this is a real game, ok, next time” He’s zoned out a lot lately

by FearTheDeer on Jan 7, 2012 10:35 PM CST up reply actions  

Look at Ilyasova

He doesn’t even want to be on the floor, please, please take him out

by FearTheDeer on Jan 7, 2012 10:36 PM CST up reply actions  

He is what he is ....

When we get more healthy, his PT has got to diminish …..

by tommyr on Jan 7, 2012 10:33 PM CST up reply actions  

I wonder if it's some kind of trade showcase thing

I feel like Skiles wouldn’t put up with that, but the Ersan starting inertia is otherwise difficult to explain.

by Frank Madden on Jan 7, 2012 10:34 PM CST via iPhone app up reply actions  

He's another pick and pop guy to screen for Jennings, but that's the only other thing I could think of right now.

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by Steve von Horn on Jan 7, 2012 10:35 PM CST up reply actions  

does that really happen?

Especially when when the season isn’t over? I feel like Skiles would rather piss blood than play someone he doesn’t want to.

by rulesofredd on Jan 7, 2012 10:35 PM CST up reply actions  

More proof that the NBA is evil

They already have Milwaukee games switched to audio on League Pass. The trial still has two days and they can’t bring themselves to broadcast basketball games for free. They just wanted to give us a taste to show that they could if they wanted to, but obviously the priority is money. Stern would be so much happier as the Commissioner of Boxing. By the way, how is it that he still has his job? If this was the public sector, his ass would have been forced to resign by now.

by MadTown Hoops on Jan 7, 2012 10:36 PM CST reply actions  

Tonight's game is NBA TV

That’s why you only have audio.

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by Steve von Horn on Jan 7, 2012 10:37 PM CST up reply actions  

I watched the other games on the west coast swing while on vacation in FL, so they worked fine for me.

Not sure what might have happened there.

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by Steve von Horn on Jan 7, 2012 10:39 PM CST up reply actions  

FSN North has the games blocked in Wisconsin, the NBA merely lifted the veil for a few games to generate new revenue streams

They got me with it last year and the only Bucks games I could watch for the low price of $129.00 were a few scattered games when I was with my cousins in Indy.

by MadTown Hoops on Jan 7, 2012 10:50 PM CST up reply actions  

Local games are always blocked due to TV rights the networks pay for to broadcast games.

I didn’t know they did any lifting for the preview. How would that even work?

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by Steve von Horn on Jan 7, 2012 10:51 PM CST up reply actions  

I'd imagine it would be worked out with the cable network, as FSN is the only party with an interest in blocking off the games

I don’t understand the specifics, all I know is that the Bucks opener and home opener are usually available on League Pass and following that virtually no games can be watched in Wisconsin.

by MadTown Hoops on Jan 7, 2012 10:58 PM CST up reply actions  

But if you are in WI you already get the games.

And if you are outside of WI the games would always be available because you are out of market.

So I just don’t get how there is any trickery possible.

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by Steve von Horn on Jan 7, 2012 11:00 PM CST up reply actions  

I cannot stand Stern ...

He is one reason the NBA’s popularity has plummeted.

by tommyr on Jan 7, 2012 10:37 PM CST up reply actions  

Along with Isaiah Thomas, the Knicks in general, Malice in the Palace, Tim Donaghy, The Pau Trade, the Garnett trade, Allen Iverson, Stevie Franchise, Vince Carter, the Heat teamup and the lockout

A lot of bad things have happened on Stern’s watch. The lockouts are unforgivable, especially given that Stern stewarded the culture of narcissism that grew in the late eighties and into the nineties. Some of the worst moments in league history have had Stern mixed up in ways that he shouldn’t be. He is a promoter and for all of his savvy he is in way over his head as commish. The league has to move on and find someone the public can trust, or the NBA will be relegated to the sports hell of hockey and soccer in this country. I know it sounds strange, but the NCAA has been supplanting the NBA for years. Credibility for the league is at an all-time low after the Paul Fiasco.

by MadTown Hoops on Jan 7, 2012 10:47 PM CST up reply actions  

No more Ersan in the post, please

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by Steve von Horn on Jan 7, 2012 10:36 PM CST reply actions  

Hobson...

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by Big Crazy Dave on Jan 7, 2012 10:38 PM CST reply actions  

Holy Shnikees

That was alot of fun on both sides.

by rulesofredd on Jan 7, 2012 10:38 PM CST reply actions  

haha. no love!

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by Steve von Horn on Jan 7, 2012 10:40 PM CST up reply actions  

Jon back in

I have almost no issue with him playing more minutes than Ersan in this game, as long as he doesn’t get killed on the boards.

by Dan Sinclair on Jan 7, 2012 10:40 PM CST reply actions  

So

The Bucks gave up a 21 point halftime lead in Sacramento, and they lost by 3. 24 point swing, therefore the Bucks will likely lose by 23 tonight. It’s going to happen.

by Jacob Grinyer on Jan 7, 2012 10:45 PM CST reply actions  

I'll give it to Gooden

Jordan/Evans have a combined 2 points

by FearTheDeer on Jan 7, 2012 10:47 PM CST reply actions  

DeAndre Jordan is paid twice as much as Gooden annually.

I’m still not sure what he does outside of flashy dunks and blocks. That interior defense has looked pretty bad, notably on a few Jennings drives.

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by Steve von Horn on Jan 7, 2012 10:48 PM CST up reply actions  

Well it's a Bucks game out there.

Grimy and ugly. If the Clippers get their offense flowing than they can break out of the Bucks strangle hold.

by senelcoolidge on Jan 7, 2012 10:52 PM CST reply actions  

It will only take one 10-1 run by the Clippers.

We are all waiting for the hammer to drop.

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by Steve von Horn on Jan 7, 2012 10:54 PM CST up reply actions  

Bad.

But Tobias Harris looked okay.

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by Steve von Horn on Jan 7, 2012 10:57 PM CST up reply actions  

Man Down, Brockman overboard

A Bucks season is a lot like a horror movie. Everyone gets slowly picked off as you yell at the screen.

by MadTown Hoops on Jan 7, 2012 11:03 PM CST reply actions   1 recs

Nobody is going to look for Brockman, so we're fine.

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by Steve von Horn on Jan 7, 2012 11:03 PM CST up reply actions  

There's our 9-3 run we were waiting on.

I imagine there is more to come.

But hey, Skiles did call the TO this time

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by Steve von Horn on Jan 7, 2012 11:08 PM CST up reply actions  

Star power is going to win this game

In other news, our stars are Brandon Jennings and Drew Gooden.

by MadTown Hoops on Jan 7, 2012 11:08 PM CST reply actions  

No no no no no no.

No

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by Steve von Horn on Jan 7, 2012 11:09 PM CST up reply actions  

No

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by Steve von Horn on Jan 7, 2012 11:09 PM CST up reply actions  

+100 those No's.

Good times never seemed so good!

by Celtin on Jan 7, 2012 11:38 PM CST up reply actions  

Pretty sure I know which finger is the litigating finger, ahah

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by Steve von Horn on Jan 7, 2012 11:10 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

It was ugly. Just gave out on him

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by Steve von Horn on Jan 7, 2012 11:11 PM CST up reply actions  

Paul is running top notch pick-and-roll right now.

It’s nice to watch but bad to see.

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by Steve von Horn on Jan 7, 2012 11:09 PM CST up reply actions  

Whoops! That was a reply to MadTown!

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by Big Crazy Dave on Jan 7, 2012 11:11 PM CST up reply actions  

Well it's a fun little scavenger hunt now :)

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by Steve von Horn on Jan 7, 2012 11:12 PM CST up reply actions  

Haha!

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by Big Crazy Dave on Jan 7, 2012 11:13 PM CST up reply actions  

Is there a stat for

how often Bucks penetration ends up in turnovers? Its got to be near 50%

by FearTheDeer on Jan 7, 2012 11:15 PM CST reply actions  

Readig the play-by-play...

…every Clippers shot made follows a ‘S. Jackson misses a 27 foot 3-pointer’

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by Big Crazy Dave on Jan 7, 2012 11:16 PM CST reply actions  

Bucks win 104-90

A samurai sword collection. If you can do it. I don’t know if you’re allowed.

by TwoShoesMcGooze on Jan 7, 2012 11:16 PM CST reply actions  

How many overtimes to get to 104?

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by Steve von Horn on Jan 7, 2012 11:17 PM CST up reply actions  

And the multi-colored money ball they bring out for All-Star weekend?

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by Steve von Horn on Jan 7, 2012 11:20 PM CST up reply actions  

Bingo!

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by Big Crazy Dave on Jan 7, 2012 11:20 PM CST up reply actions  

Well the Bucks are nothing if not interesting

No Bucks game can be a blowout, we will win or lose every game by under four points. By the end of this season, we are all going to have a collective anxiety disorder.

by MadTown Hoops on Jan 7, 2012 11:22 PM CST reply actions   1 recs

Hey guys, looks like the Bucks are showing some spunk here in the 3rd quarter.

Just now getting to the game now that my wife has gone to bed. How are things looking in house, Frank?

by Brick's house on Jan 7, 2012 11:22 PM CST reply actions  

Agreed. MadTown and Steve win 2-1. Comment will be shamed.

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by Steve von Horn on Jan 7, 2012 11:29 PM CST up reply actions  

I've done both of those myself.

Ended my ‘promising’ basketball, cricket and Australian football careers!

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by Big Crazy Dave on Jan 7, 2012 11:31 PM CST up reply actions  

TOBIAS HARRIS JUST COST LEUER AN OFFENSIVE REBOUND

by Dan Sinclair on Jan 7, 2012 11:34 PM CST reply actions  

Harris and Leuer

looking to hit the offensive glass…I absolutely love it!

by FearTheDeer on Jan 7, 2012 11:36 PM CST reply actions  

Good one Skiles

Throw in Gooden, he’s just got a whopping -17

by FearTheDeer on Jan 7, 2012 11:43 PM CST reply actions  

Yep.

If it didn’t go in we’d all be cursing him.

Good times never seemed so good!

by Celtin on Jan 7, 2012 11:48 PM CST up reply actions  

Bucks own the boards 47-36.

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by Big Crazy Dave on Jan 7, 2012 11:49 PM CST reply actions  

One thing you gotta say, the team has NOT quit on Skiles.

They may not be the most effective team, but the effort is there.

by Brick's house on Jan 7, 2012 11:50 PM CST reply actions  

I don't understand, we commit turnovers whenever we have a chance to get within 1 possession

Gooden starts it with that silly slapsh** shot, Jackson can’t finish the lay in, come on fellas

by FearTheDeer on Jan 7, 2012 11:52 PM CST reply actions  

'Stephen Jackson misses a 27-foot three-pointer from the left wing'

again…sigh!

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by Big Crazy Dave on Jan 7, 2012 11:54 PM CST reply actions  

Now THAT was a nice look by Jennings

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by Steve von Horn on Jan 7, 2012 11:54 PM CST reply actions  

Not that shot Jennings

He has to learn that crap is going to get blocked every time

by FearTheDeer on Jan 7, 2012 11:55 PM CST reply actions  

Where was this hustle in the 4th @ Sac?

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by Big Crazy Dave on Jan 7, 2012 11:56 PM CST reply actions  

Skiles really needs to go hack a jordan

Make them take him out, we need the lane to open up a bit

by FearTheDeer on Jan 7, 2012 11:57 PM CST reply actions  

Come on Bucks

let’s pull it out

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by the new Bradfather on Jan 7, 2012 11:57 PM CST reply actions  

Captain Jack hit the deck :(

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by the new Bradfather on Jan 7, 2012 11:57 PM CST reply actions  

Jax 3-17

U-G-H!

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by Big Crazy Dave on Jan 7, 2012 11:58 PM CST reply actions  

WOW

Didn’t even see that until now. Still has 16 points!

by Dan Sinclair on Jan 7, 2012 11:59 PM CST up reply actions  

Goodness that's awful.

All of his made FGs are 3 pointers.

Good times never seemed so good!

by Celtin on Jan 7, 2012 11:59 PM CST up reply actions  

Man, the Clippers announcers are straight jank

OH MY GOODNESS, now Jackson’s down. Oh, to be healthy. Is it such a ridiculous dream?

by MadTown Hoops on Jan 7, 2012 11:59 PM CST reply actions  

Honestly,

If Jax goes down and stays down, for like, about a month, Harris will get to play.

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by Big Crazy Dave on Jan 8, 2012 12:00 AM CST up reply actions   1 recs

That would be so great

I don’t care how much we are paying him, he’s terrible.

by rulesofredd on Jan 8, 2012 12:01 AM CST up reply actions  

100%

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by Big Crazy Dave on Jan 8, 2012 12:02 AM CST up reply actions  

Terrible or not, he's still the closest to a shooting guard we have

I though Harris was a tweener forward. We have small forwards in abundance. His playing time would still be lousy. Less options is never a good thing, especially when that option is one of three people on the team that can hit threes

by MadTown Hoops on Jan 8, 2012 12:07 AM CST up reply actions  

He was Troy Murphy’s teammate…

by MadTown Hoops on Jan 8, 2012 12:21 AM CST up reply actions  

if the ref's going to be a douche

sometimes you have to share your opinion even if it does cost you a T

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by the new Bradfather on Jan 8, 2012 12:01 AM CST up reply actions  

Yeah

I’m always complaining about the calls he doesn’t get. But getting fouled is a skill like any other, and it’s something Jennings needs to work on.

by Dan Sinclair on Jan 8, 2012 12:03 AM CST up reply actions  

Was wondering that too

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by Big Crazy Dave on Jan 8, 2012 12:01 AM CST up reply actions  

Complaining about a non-call on Jackson, plus a no-call on him earlier when he got super-blocked.

by Dan Sinclair on Jan 8, 2012 12:02 AM CST up reply actions  

They are doing the wave.

Good times never seemed so good!

by Celtin on Jan 8, 2012 12:02 AM CST reply actions  

the Clips are executing too well

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by the new Bradfather on Jan 8, 2012 12:03 AM CST reply actions  

Gooden's fadeaways

are the shots I look for down the stretch.

by rulesofredd on Jan 8, 2012 12:03 AM CST reply actions  

too little too late

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by the new Bradfather on Jan 8, 2012 12:04 AM CST reply actions  

Gooden with a 3?

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by the new Bradfather on Jan 8, 2012 12:06 AM CST reply actions  

Bucks still waiting on 3...

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by Steve von Horn on Jan 8, 2012 12:07 AM CST up reply actions  

Positive reinforcement for Gooden

A sure fire way to get a great lottery pick

http://twitter.com/WhalesLarry ...but only if you want to see someone still trying to figure Twitter out.

by Mitchell Maurer on Jan 8, 2012 12:08 AM CST up reply actions  

that sucked

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by the new Bradfather on Jan 8, 2012 12:09 AM CST reply actions  

sigh. sigh. sigh.

And why didn’t Gooden take that 3 there?

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by Celtin on Jan 8, 2012 12:10 AM CST reply actions  

have a good night guys

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by the new Bradfather on Jan 8, 2012 12:10 AM CST reply actions  

I know it's not possible

but I’d trade Jackson and Gooden for some Gatorade for Tobias.

by rulesofredd on Jan 8, 2012 12:10 AM CST reply actions  

Leading from the bench is gaining momentum?

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by Steve von Horn on Jan 8, 2012 12:13 AM CST up reply actions  

Dunleavy isn't even on the road trip, is he?

Frank, did you see Dunleavy on the bench or is he back in Milwaukee with his “groin illness”?

by Brick's house on Jan 8, 2012 12:15 AM CST up reply actions  

Lol. A most interesting phrasing that earned a chuckle out of me.

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by Steve von Horn on Jan 8, 2012 12:16 AM CST up reply actions  

I was thinking more long term, rather than next game.

Of course, I do wonder in what type of exotic (erotic?) context, Mike picked up his ‘groin illness’

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by Big Crazy Dave on Jan 8, 2012 12:17 AM CST up reply actions  

Us, or the organization.

Only one is respectable.

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by Steve von Horn on Jan 8, 2012 12:12 AM CST up reply actions  

I resemble that remark!

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by Big Crazy Dave on Jan 8, 2012 12:13 AM CST up reply actions  

Ersan -15, Leuer +14

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by Big Crazy Dave on Jan 8, 2012 12:16 AM CST up reply actions  

yup!

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by Big Crazy Dave on Jan 8, 2012 12:18 AM CST up reply actions  

fds

Leur +14
Illyasova -15

Good times never seemed so good!

by Celtin on Jan 8, 2012 12:16 AM CST up reply actions  

*Leuer

And I call myself a Badgers fan.

Good times never seemed so good!

by Celtin on Jan 8, 2012 12:17 AM CST up reply actions  

Let's win the Super Bowl!

Wait…am I headed in the wrong direction here?

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by Steve von Horn on Jan 8, 2012 12:19 AM CST up reply actions  

The maddening thing is we don't, not all the time and we play "good" defense

Why can’t we sustain a lead? This requires a breakdown, as the Bucks are incredible in their ability to let others in the game after building large leads. One element is momentum, as the other team just seems to always have more of those uplifting “would you look at that” effortless offensive moments that boost the whole team. We have to grind away, but I still don’t get why our leads are so tentative.

by MadTown Hoops on Jan 8, 2012 12:19 AM CST up reply actions  

Some of it has to do with a lack of 3PT shooters to space the floor.

Some of it has to do with poor isolation players that can’t shift the defense of get it to over-commit. Whehter post threats or shooting off the dribble, the Bucks don’t have someone who can beat one on one coverage.

Some of it has to do with a PG who can be defended by defenders going under screens on high pick and roll, taking away the driving angles and allowing the defense to avoid switching or stunting too far from their man.

I’m sure there are more smaller issues, but those are the big ones to me.

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by Steve von Horn on Jan 8, 2012 12:22 AM CST up reply actions  

Some of it has to do with poor isolation players that can’t shift the defense of get it to over-commit.

Pretty much. There’s nobody on our team who’s consistently going to be a threat and open up things for others.

We had open shots at times, we just couldn’t make them. I’m tired of talking about injuries, but I wish this team was at full strength so they can be criticized properly…

by Jacob Grinyer on Jan 8, 2012 12:29 AM CST up reply actions  

I'm sorry fellas, this is beyond frustrating

In the final 2 minutes of the game we had. I mean we called 2 timeouts and these are the plays and shots we get off.

Gooden iso turned into a shot clock violation
Jackson lay-up, make
Leuer 3 attempt, miss
Goooden 3 attempt, make
Jackson lost ball, turnover

This is the same old story game after game after game. I can take a loss, I can take a missed shot, but at least get a decent shot attempt in crunch time.

Down 6, 22 seconds should we foul? This is a easy yes for a winning team. No brainer, honestly.

by FearTheDeer on Jan 8, 2012 12:21 AM CST reply actions  

Unfortunately there could only be one winner.

I wish the Buck the best of luck this season. You guys play hard.

by senelcoolidge on Jan 8, 2012 12:21 AM CST reply actions  

Just not smart unfortunately.

Thanks for the props :)

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by Big Crazy Dave on Jan 8, 2012 12:22 AM CST up reply actions  

I honestly think you guys need a new coach

You dont have very good offensive players, but the offense of yours is just painful to watch. Also, Stephen Jackson has gone downhill fast.

by NewCavsfan on Jan 8, 2012 12:22 AM CST reply actions  

Your defense is great though

Good game, and good luck on the remainder of your road trip.

by NewCavsfan on Jan 8, 2012 12:22 AM CST up reply actions  

Thanks!

Good times never seemed so good!

by Celtin on Jan 8, 2012 12:25 AM CST up reply actions  

I'm willing to give Skiles time

I don’t know if he’s an “elite” coach, but I think we’re kidding ourselves if we think that we have a team that’s good enough to be great if we were just to have the right coach.

by Jacob Grinyer on Jan 8, 2012 12:31 AM CST up reply actions  

You wouldnt be great

But you guys arent going anywhere with this offense. Bogut is a huge loss I know, but the whole system seems really messed up.

by NewCavsfan on Jan 8, 2012 12:33 AM CST up reply actions  

I don’t want Skiles to get fired just for a mediocre season—at least not in the middle of it. If the team is an absolute disaster halfway through (I’m talking, like, 10 wins or fewer), then maybe. But they need a full offseason to regroup if Skiles gets canned.

But man. This is rough. We’re looking at a team that could absolutely blow up if they don’t catch a break.

At least it’s a stacked draft class.

by Dan Sinclair on Jan 8, 2012 12:45 AM CST up reply actions  

Not as painful to watch

That’s my 5-word summary.

The second half wasn’t a collapse, IMHO. Just a long awkward stretch where they tried to generate an offense with guys who have very limited offensive skills.

We hung around the Clips but never really pushed them. They have too much vet developed talent. And, especially now, we are paper thin on talent.

I’d guess that tonight’s performance — with returnees — will win as often as it loses. Perhaps that qualifies as a step up. More games coming…

by unklchuk on Jan 8, 2012 1:11 AM CST reply actions  

The Bucks don't suck, they are tantalizingly adequate

It’s easier to root for a truly terrible underdog or just a good team, but we’re just not quite there. This is a flip the vets and the players that can’t be good enough and blow up the roster kind of season, not a fire the coach season.

The only cases I can think of to fire the coach are if the team has quit on him(Kuester in Detroit), if the coach is dialing it in (Nelson in Golden State or Brown in New York), if you’ve made the choice between the coach and a player (Golden State this year, though it was a poor choice) or if the coach has somehow been publicly disgraced. Our whole team will still give it their all for Skiles, but we need to figure out how to prevent second half breakdowns.

We know from successful first halves that our plan does work, part of the reason it’s so frustrating is that we see how we could have won every night. Perhaps some adjustments could be made, but the most important coaching decisions are already affected by injuries. No Bogut, Dunleavy or Udrih meant that Jennings, Jackson and Gooden all had to play big minutes. The results feel predictable, but in fact they were anything but. We played a good game against the Clips. Still this team is hard to watch and a tough sell to the football crazed fans here in Wisconsin.

by MadTown Hoops on Jan 8, 2012 2:30 AM CST reply actions   2 recs

amen, they are a tough watch

there was a little run there in the game with the young guys in there with Jennings where they were moving the ball and cutting and running where it was great to watch but it only lasted about 4 minutes then the stooges got back in there and Bucks went to lots of isolations.

by puremisery on Jan 8, 2012 2:31 PM CST up reply actions  

I was pretty impressed with Leuer and Jennings even in the loss

Leuer held his own and his length is a monumental upgrade inside compared to Ilyabricka and Jennings also took it to Chris Paul dare I say he even won that matchup. Unfortunately they didn’t get enough help, if our SG could shoot even 45% and commit half the turnovers he did, maybe we win by one.

by puremisery on Jan 8, 2012 2:26 PM CST reply actions  

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