Suns 109, Bucks 93 Game Recap: Steve Nash Dishes Out 17 Assists, Bucks Take 24th Consecutive Loss In Phoenix
The Milwaukee Bucks continue to prove they are a bad road team in the 2011-12 NBA season, dropping all six road games so far this season, but this loss to the Phoenix Suns has a special historical significance that slices open a franchise scar that runs decades deep.
The 109-93 loss marks the 24th-straight road loss for the Bucks in Phoenix, a dubious streak that dates back to February 21, 1987, and also ties a Suns franchise record for consecutive home wins over a single opponent. Whether you are upset about the inauspicious start to the season or the direction the franchise has been drifting over the past 20 years, the Bucks provided something for all dissatisfied Bucks fans on Sunday night.
You can't spell torched without the letter d, but you sure as heck can get torched without playing D. Keeping it close has been a small victory for the struggling Bucks so far this year, but Steve Nash and the Suns blew this one wide open by the middle of the third quarter. Nash absolutely destroyed Brandon Jennings and the Bucks defense in simple high pick-and-roll offense with Marcin Gortat from the word "go," recording assists on 9 of the first 10 made baskets by the Suns. The other make? A 15-foot leaner Nash decided to score himself when Jennings tried to trail him on a pick-and-roll. By the time the smoke cleared on the first half on play, Mr. Nash had already claimed 12 assists to go with 6 points on 3-5 shooting, and the Suns had managed 58.5% shooting from the field as a team.
Even though the Bucks only trailed 57-47 after those first two quarters, the game already had a certain stench on it that dedicated fans know all too well. It would have been inaccurate to say the Bucks were still in it at that point, but the phrase "they weren't yet out of it" feels just about right to capture the moment. The only Bucks starter shooting over 50% from the field at the intermission happened to be Stephen Jackson (huh? what?), while every Suns starter except Jared Dudley shot over 50% in the opening half.
When taking in Suns basketball during the Steve Nash era, the team always feels either (a) an 11-3 run from being right back in the game, or (b) an 11-3 run from putting the game away. Watching the Bucks during the Scott Skiles era makes any such offensive run feel like an utter impossibility on a nightly basis. With the score still vaguely respectable at 70-55 with 7:37 remaining in the third quarter, the Suns made that 11-3 run over the course of the next three minutes to push the margin to 81-58. By the end of the third quarter the Bucks faced a 25 point margin that could make even the most optimistic Bucks fan reach for the remote.
Some points in garbage time helped the Bucks mask the Suns' dominance, but the proof is in the final line. Nash finished with a whopping 17 assists, 10 points and only 3 turnovers, the Suns shot 55.8% as a team and 45.5% from three and every Suns starter shot at least 50% from the field. As for the Bucks, no starter shot over 50%, only Ersan Ilyasova scored in double digits (11 points) for the starting five and the team as whole stumbled to 43.0% on field goals and 20.0% on threes. In other words, just another loss in Phoenix.
Three Bucks
Shaun Livingston - Nearly everyone who has been watching the Bucks takes notice of Shaun Livingston and makes a mental note that he should see more minutes. His combination of elite size, a visible desire to consistently attack the rim and a well-developed post package make him a bright spot on a team that lacks most of these traits from most of the positions in the lineup. Livingston shined once again tonight, finishing with 12 points on 6-9 shooting to go with 4 assists, 2 steals and 0 turnovers in 28 minutes. The problem is that he only played 10 minutes in the first half and did most of his damage in garbage time against reserves, but this is just another performance that proves he should be getting more burn on a nightly basis. I still want to see him get a shot at a pure PG role where he can use his size to isolate smaller players on the block like Chauncey Billups used to do in his prime with the Pistons, but the presence of Jennings and Udrih makes that more of a pipe dream than anything else. I can still hope.
Tobias Harris - After making his long-awaited debut last night against the Clippers and getting only 8 minutes and 39 seconds on the court, the Bucks' first-round pick logged 23 minutes and made them all count against the Suns. Whether slashing to the rim, banging on the block or working the mid-range game, Harris kept most of his opportunities in quality zones on the court and wound up with 10 free throw attempts to show for his trouble. His 15 points on 4-8 shooting and 7-10 from the line continues to provide hope that he can make positive contributions to the team early in his NBA career. His +11 differential may be a bit misleading, considering the bulk of his minutes came when the game had already floated beyond the grasp of the team, but he left no reason to doubt his abilities in his first extended look in a regular season NBA game.
Jon Leuer - Another fan favorite on a team full of players that otherwise tend to irritate close observers in more than one way, Leuer earned the title of first man off the bench (came in with 4:03 remaining in the first quarter) and quickly got to work with an isolation pinch-post look against Gortat that he converted into a made mid-range turnaround jumper. His first half line of 4 points and 2 rebounds doesn't look great, but Leuer continues to do the right things on the floor and finished up with 11 points and 6 rebounds.
Three Numbers
24 The Bucks have now lost 24-straight road games against the Phoenix Suns. It's just...terrible. Look out Golden State Warriors, your highest active NBA streak of 27 straight road losses to the San Antonio Spurs can't go on forever. We're coming for you!
0-5 The Bucks finished their west coast road trip with five losses and zero wins. After a disappointing loss to the Nuggets sans Nene, a blah loss to the blah Utah Jazz, an epic collapse against the lowly Sacramento Kings, a respectable loss to the Los Angeles Clippers and a laugher against the Phoenix Suns, the Bucks are staring 2-6 in the face and find themselves bumming around with the bottom feeders of the Eastern Conference. Yuck.
17 Steve Nash ran high pick and roll so well against the Bucks that he racked up 17 assists before the third quarter ended and got to watch the rest of the game with a towel around his neck. Milwaukee's offensive ineptitude actually came in handy tonight, because if they had been able to keep the score close I may have been reporting on Scott Skiles' single-game record of 30 assists being broken. The only thing that stopped Nash on Sunday night was professional courtesy.
Three Good
February 21, 1987. The Bucks last beat the Suns in Phoenix on this date by a final score of 115-107, and I just so happened to do a retro game recap of that win in anticipation of this loss. Go check it out to see a much happier time in Bucks history.
Sportsmanship and professional courtesy. As noted above, the only thing that stopped Steve Nash from setting records and embarrassing the Bucks in some indelible fashion is the fact that Alvin Gentry didn't allow him to play a full minute load once the game reached blowout status in the third quarter.
This recap format. A great aspect of this recap format is that if you watch the game and can't come up with legitimate contenders for the Three Bucks and Three Good segments, you know the team didn't deserve to win the game. Leuer may have been a bit of a stretch on the Three Bucks, so I will make sure I bring clarity to the recap by focusing on the absence of a third good thing from the game. Make no mistake, the Bucks did not deserve to win this game at any point.
Twenty-Four Bad
In case you didn't know by now, the Bucks have lost 24 straight games in Phoenix and they have all been bad. Maybe next year...Am I talking about breaking the streak in Phoenix or the 2011-12 team? I really don't know any more.
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Watching S-Jax and Gooden this year will be challenging...
I just can’t stand the way either of them play basketball. And I bet Skiles can’t either. Needs to improve if this franchise wants momentum towards a stadium solution in Milwaukee. Because as is, the Bucks buzz around MKE is nil.
Add Delfino and Ilyasova
Who wants to trade 4 for 4? A least Gooden can back up Bogut with the numbers he put up, too many players missing, as usual.
by toasterrebound on Jan 9, 2012 11:21 AM CST up reply actions
NBA.com game highlight reel...
didn’t show one Bucks highlight/play or anything… yikes.
They only seem to show Jennings
And he did diddly.
by toasterrebound on Jan 9, 2012 11:22 AM CST up reply actions
I nominate one more good
This was the only time this season the Bucks will play 5 road games in a row. In fact, they will have one three game road trip, but other than that they have only one or two game road trips from here on out.
by Brick's house on Jan 8, 2012 11:46 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Bucks
Here we go again.. The same thing each year..We won the title in 71 ? That’s only 41 years.. Not bad huh ? As I see it the players need more money and a new direction. LOL They play sloppy, can’t shoot, can’t rebound, miss assignments all the time. slow to react to the ball.. Shall I go on..and on.. and on… I can’t even stand to watch them..And I love the bucks. Hey isn’t that The coaches responsibilty ? A raise for scott Skilles… Sure… Why Not !!! Keep of the good work Coach…! Hello ???
Jon Leuer box score...
I think yours is wrong, I keep reading 11 pts, 6 rebs…
You are correct kanyon.
I actually stopped one box score at halftime sensing a blowout and had another for the final game, because I wanted those meaningful chunks from the first two quarters. He had those numbers at the half.
The change has been made. Thanks again.
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by Steve von Horn on Jan 9, 2012 12:17 AM CST up reply actions
Hi guys i am a Phoenix Fan here and let me say
Livingston, looking up at his numbers, is a crappy shooter and he is very limited on lateral defense, but he is a great slasher and his size is just an incredible advantage, he did not look bad at all dribbling the ball, i don´t how well is he distributing the ball, but men, if that kid can pass well the ball, he only needs to work on his shots, and there you have a gem to give minutes.
Blind enough to believe on Pudgemonster.
His shooting range is indeed suspect, but he can slash and post up smaller guards.
Most of us would love to see him get a look as a true PG, but he can’t quite shake lineup combos with smaller guards in meaningful minutes.
Not sure the shot will ever be very good, but his size makes that okay.
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by Steve von Horn on Jan 9, 2012 12:20 AM CST up reply actions
I alawys liked Livengston
the guy is a good player and has a lot of heart to come back from his injuries. (Bogut to)
Enough Bitchin' lets do this
Just saying you cannot improve your size
So if he works out for a 38 3pt% and a 88 FT%, he might a be good starter, even though you wonder how much can he improve at 25.
Blind enough to believe on Pudgemonster.
I hear ya. Maybe he can extend his post game to include 15ft fadaways or something, but I think the true 3pt ship has sailed.
The being said, he at least shows good discretion on knowing his own limitations with regards to his range. Makes him a better player just by doing that.
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by Steve von Horn on Jan 9, 2012 12:36 AM CST up reply actions
I really don't get this...
I feel like if I was a professional athlete and got paid to play sports I would work out multiple times a day and shoot buckets constantly… One, its super fun… Two, its your job.
How can a guard coordinated enough to play in the NBA not be coordinated enough to consistently hit a third of his 3’s with work?
Of course nothing in life is as simple as I portrayed this here but the question still stands…
He can probably hit them in an empty gym
But defenders have a way of screwing with your shooting mechanics. Better to forgo the exercise entirely and focus on his strengths.
http://twitter.com/WhalesLarry ...but only if you want to see someone still trying to figure Twitter out.
by Mitchell Maurer on Jan 9, 2012 1:23 PM CST up reply actions
He stays in his range
Unlike others. Definitey an upgrade.
by toasterrebound on Jan 9, 2012 11:24 AM CST up reply actions
Now accepting opprobrium...
I predicted a win for last night. We lost. I could trot out a host of excuses, including mafia pressure to make my prediction influence the Vegas odds (which I staunchly resisted until they gave me a bigger cut). But why not, for a change, be a man about it? It was a foolish prediction and I assume full responsibility.
Throw your harsh words. Throw sticks & stones. Break my bones. Finally, before you bury me, throw a hell of a party.
We may go down in ignominious defeat — but at least we can spell ignominious. (That’s correct, isn’t it?)
There was a purity about that 0-5 road trip. Revealing the multiple dimensions of Buckian loss. The season may never be as clear cut as that again. Almost enough to make me proud. Oh sure, “retch” is the first word that comes to mind but that’s only temporary. In the end, “proud” is the word because I knew where my team stood. Or kneeled. Or laid. And because I knew that if All Falls Down (natural with this franchise) there are still 5 Buck rookies and young guys who are fun to watch.
Now I suspect I’m back to watching a team that wins some, loses some, and is forgettable in most of them. Dominated by veterans brought in to help, who somehow confused “help” with “helpless.”
So it goes…
by unklchuk on Jan 9, 2012 9:19 AM CST reply actions 1 recs
Thank god that road stretch is done!
As painful as it was, lets keep a little perspective. We are always going to do it tough without Bogut, and missing Dunleavy , Udrih and LRMAM are also legitimate problems. I’m not expecting us to be a great road team, though obviosuly we need to improve on this effort.
But it’s time for us resilient and optimistic fans to focus on supporting the team. If we get good results this year, it will be because we get some confidence at home. So here’s hoping we can get on a good roll now.
Oh, and fire Skiles…
Should have at least won the Kings game.
That could make the difference in the standings, remember how close it was last year.
by toasterrebound on Jan 9, 2012 11:25 AM CST up reply actions
I think the most disturbing thing about this season thus far, is Jax....
He was brought in to be the teams scorer – and he looks terrible. He was never a #1 option IMO, anyways – and he looks old and slow. [maybe injuries, maybe not]
So, you have a scorer that doesn’t score, a shoot first PG that can’t shoot, and a bunch of other guys that all have some individual ability – but absolutely no one that can “put the team on their back” when need be…
Not to mention questionable coaching and chemsitry…..
Good thing it’s a deep draft class. [Though I just read that Drummond is staying in school]
Phoenix is similar
Look at their lineup, no superstars with Nash aging, but they make their shots because they play up tempo. Our team is much deeper and talented if utilized.
by toasterrebound on Jan 9, 2012 11:28 AM CST up reply actions
But Phoenix/Nash is a great example of what a real PG can do...
I know Nash is a former MVP and probable HOFer – but even a team that doesn’t have a ton of “talent” still has NBA players, and a PG that wants to and knows how to set up teammates can make a bad team mediocre, a mediocre team good, a good team great, etc…
Pinning your teams hopes on a shoot first PG that can’t shoot will land you in the draft lottery every yr [atleast most of the time]
Side Note: Drummond
is indicating he’ll return for his sophomore season at UConn. This is how deep drafts turn thin. I think there will be a long line of freshman this year that stay in college.
http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/218151/Drummond_Plans_On_Returning_For_Sophomore_Season
we should really try to lose all our games next year and land Shabazz Muhammed
he might be the only player I’ve seen who could really turn this shitbird franchise around and think of all the fun on the gamethread with that name….
Count me in for that
I’m sure we’ll have tons of competition at the bottom next season cuz every rebuilding team is going to try there best to get Muhammad.
I still think...
…that the Bucks are middle of the pack. Bottom of playoffs. top of lottery. Trouble is. not confident they’ll be INTERESTING.
by unklchuk on Jan 9, 2012 11:14 AM CST via Android app reply actions
Nobody finds NBA Hell interesting.
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by Steve von Horn on Jan 9, 2012 11:38 AM CST up reply actions
Great Line Steve
Jon Leuer-Another fan favorite on a team full of players that otherwise tend to irritate close observers in more than one way,
I laughed my butt off when I read that.
Ilysova and Gooden
acted like they have never seen a high pick and roll/pop, not sure what the heck was going on out there. Ilysova kept leaving Channing Frye wide open, time after time after time, you would think after a guy hits one or two 3 balls, maybe you would tighten up and realize you can’t wander away, not Ersan. What does that guy got on Skiles? He missed another couple of wide open uncontested layups again, pro players shouldn’t do that.
I turned it off early 3rd quarter, seen enough.
Quick thoughts post-game
Bucks starters take note -
+ when the other team is making a run, you don’t panic dribble around the wing, line up for endless 3-balls (all missed) and watch the lead balloon to 25pts on endless opposition fastbreaks. After Nash nuked us for the 11-3 run, the bench/rookie squad that Skiles went with for the rest of the game (admittedly against the other bench) managed to eat into the lead, but played smart. I dont think the Bucks even attempted a 3pointer in the 4th quarter, and drew a lot of fouls by heading for the rack. As the second unit showerd, just cause there is no Bogut doesn’t mean you cant get aggressive in the paint – especially against the Suns – whatever their defensive efficiency rating they don’t have anyone particularly intimidating in there. Result – break even/reduce the lead.
+ I like Harris’ game – he will dominate small 3’s (although he may stuggle to keep with em on defense), has great upper body strength and has the post moves of a 4 (something not in abundance on the Bucks squad) – showed good skill in nudging the mantis-like Hakim Warrick of him on the block. Also – he is not afraid of contact and just drives for the hole, waiting for the bump and the foul…take note Ilyasova, Delfino. He likes to rebound too.
+ How sweet was it to see Sanders hit a few 15-17 ft J’s, not rack up 6 fouls in 6 minutes and scoop up some boards. Gave me hope he can be a force for the club…he seemed much more comfortable playing with the young guys than the regulars.
+ Hobson – small sample size but looks promising also.
+ Leuer – Well, start ripping on Hammond all you like, Leuer was an inspired second round choice. Vet savvy (coutesy of the overseas stuff) in an athletic rookie big man – future is promising for him.
+ Thoroughly enjoyed the second unit play when well-marshaleld by Livingstone. NOt sure where S-Jax is at, but he is gunning us out of games at times. I think the last 15 mins of court time was excellent experience for those guys.
What's the relationship between you folks?
That is, the BH staff and Jeremy Schmidt of Bucksketball.com? You give us the link to his site. He quotes Dan Sinclair for some of Dan’s wisdom. Are you in the same Sports 101 class in college? Your wives taking the same YMCA course in Buddhist Yawning, and you all go out together afterwards for Starbucks?
Schmidt says things about Bucks basketball that i agree with. Y’all say things about the Bucks that I agree with. Either there’s some kind of conspiracy afoot, or my thoughts are far too commonplace.
Is there a textbook that says: “In the event of a blowout, the typical fan doofus will think blah, blah, blah. Start your piece by mentioning blah blah and the doofus reader will be hooked. Then you can include the real meat of the story and there is a slight but measurable chance that your doofus will hang in and learn something.”
Hasn’t happened yet, but I’m still trying.
Oh comon now unhlchuk, you disagree with us plenty :)
Jeremy is a good guy and a friend of the site for sure, so we make an effort to give the complete picture on the team by offering up a look around at different perspectives and analysis. Good to see you are enjoying both views and that you are staying hungry for the “real meat of the story.”
And hey! How’d the hip-hop listens go? Don’t leave me hanging!
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by Steve von Horn on Jan 9, 2012 2:09 PM CST up reply actions
Your secret is safe...
The fact that you refuse to be any more specific than “friend” is proof positive that the connection is kinky sex. Sportswriters by professional nature are constantly facing tension, heart-racing excitement and high drama (especially around the Bucks,right?) so I guess it figures you’d relax any way you can. Are your wives as into it as you are? If so, can you post pictures?
If you had EDITING you could have spelled my name right. Harrumph!
Old men regularly consul patience. I consul it too, from me to you. The Hip Hip is still hipping and hopping along the bunny trail to the Village of Actuality. It is not forgotten. It is not a fading promise. It is simply leisurely. Conditions are not right for quick consummation. In my living room recliner, I specialize in taking in things for enjoyment and education. Films, Charlie Rose, Person of Interest, Austin City Limits, Rachel Maddow, Girls with Dragon Tattoos, books of prose and poetry, etc. I can’t play your suggestions in the living room. My tech there is a wreck.
At my computer I am programmed to do freelance webwork and design, to respond to many ephemeral emails, and to squander large chunks of time in the rare sports forum that tolerates me. Also to covet imagery software at bargain prices and buy far too much of it. And then try to learn it.
I am not programmed to sit at the computer in the home office and have an aesthetic experience. Which I assume HipHop will be. But Winter is long, and inside is warm, so I WILL MAKE THE TIME. Honest.
You apparently missed my modern music reference here. I like Harry Nilsson’s stuff (he’s not modern, but hold on) – and something showed me that a guy named WizzRapKittyKat had covered “Put the Lime in the Coconut” and over 2 million of us had clicked to hear. I included that in one of the threads.
I lol'd at that quote
This is going to be a big help for the self-instruction book I’m writing. “Sports Blogging For Dummies: Chapter 1 – Cater to the Doofus”
Last night during the game thread I used the "T" word(I feel like a doofus)
And people got offended, I just wanted to say that perhaps I shouldn’t have used that word but “retool” instead. I do think we have some kids here that could be good NBA players, some bit player veterans and a centre who people say is top 5 in a very shallow centre pool.
I really want to see the kids get some chance to prove themselves this year, more of a chance than say Sanders got last year. I would also like to see the Bucks be agressive in the trade market and see if some of these veterans could land some unproven young talent(like Speights and Xavier henry type players). I also think they should pursue trade talks for Bogut as I truly feel he may be at the top of his worth now and there may be a team that thinks he can put them “over the top”(I think Philly here but that’s just my opinion).
I realize that Gooden and jackson probably are untradeable now but that doesn’t mean they need to get 30-40 minutes of burn every night either.
So when i said “Tank” I didn’t mean the Bucks should go out and lose games on purpose, I just feel that maybe they need to take a look at what they have , decide what they need, and move toward that direction. I just don’t want to see more veteran “bandaids”, I like to loke toward long-term starters, like future co-ROYs Leuer and Harris.
I meant no disrespect tothe Bucks team by saying that, I have been a loyal fan since 1975 and stuck through thick and thin, just the late 70s and 80s were a lot more fun.
"He always plays like he's a pit bull that hasn't been fed in about a year and that you've got pork chops in your pockets and that's the basketball." Of course, he's Canadian
Call it tank or rebuild or whatever...
…I would be OK with switching the emphasis from Win Now (especially what has been a poorly-implemented and perhaps poorly-endowed-with-luck Win Now) toward building a contending team for the hopefully-not-too-far-off future.
But I suspect that only a new owner would have the renewal in hope and optimism that a rebuild would require.
It feels like Herb Kohl is in a BAD place with this team. I don’t mean his attitude; I don’t know that. But general fans are apathetic, city fathers don’t seem to value the franchise. It’s hard to be proud of the Bucks, for almost anyone. I may plan to live forever, but there are signs Kohl doesn’t. As things are, the chance of finding a buyer that would keep the team in Milwaukee seem slim. And the market value seems low.
So IMO a full tank job now (not saying CB is advocating that) would be poorly-timed and would be kill-or-cure — with the likelihood on kill.
Now if the road losing streak proves predictive of our results in upcoming games, I don’t know what the hell they’ll do. May take some first-class sailing, through treacherous waters, with multiple course corrections, to get through this storm and these reefs and into the sun. May not be possible unless they somehow can restore credibility and hope. How do they do that?
And my disadvantage is that
I live nowhere near Milwaukee nor know anything of the climate relating to the Bucks. But do people not believe in the “short-term pain long-term gain” principle? We’re treading water now and our live=preservers of Gooden and Jackson don’t seem to be bouyant.
"He always plays like he's a pit bull that hasn't been fed in about a year and that you've got pork chops in your pockets and that's the basketball." Of course, he's Canadian
by CanadaBucks on Jan 10, 2012 10:28 AM CST up reply actions
The city powers care only pro forma if the franchise stays or leaves
Be nice to have it. But sure don’t want to pay to keep it (new arena). If it goes away, no big deal. The Packers are always huge, albeit in Green Bay, but fans do the 100 mile one-way commute. The Brewers are big. The MU Golden Eagles are competitive and fun. The UWM Panthers are present and accounted for. Who needs the Bucks and the damn NBA?
The general sports fan would solidly support a Bucks team that deserved some trust. But the Bucks have burned the trust bridge. They’ve shown promise and followed that with harsh disappointment or collapse so many, many times that it will take 2 or 3 years of smart, winning basketball to start to establish belief in the franchise.
I may be wrong. But telling folks that the team will go young and lose big for 2 or 3 years sounds like last rites for the Bucks in Milwaukee. Only a competent team can legitimately sell the idea of a rebuild. Not many think our management is competent.
I agree-
there just isn’t any time for a rebuild. The Bucks don’t have 2-3 years, IMO, to continue to do nothing/ do even worse than they have been. However, Wisconsin is a great sports state- and I think that two years of .500+ records would be enough to hold interest in the Bucks. Two years ago Wisconsin has Bucks fever! Everyone was talking about them. I think people in general really want to like the Bucks, and if given the opportunity , they will.
A samurai sword collection. If you can do it. I don’t know if you’re allowed.
by TwoShoesMcGooze on Jan 10, 2012 3:24 PM CST up reply actions
So, really,
it’s either win now or win never.
A samurai sword collection. If you can do it. I don’t know if you’re allowed.
by TwoShoesMcGooze on Jan 10, 2012 3:25 PM CST up reply actions
Kohl needs to sell.
The Bucks need to model things after the Brewers… The Brewers are HUGE now, but only a few years ago nobody gave a damn about a middling(or worse)/disappointing franchise. Base everything on copying the Brewers :P
Also, there’s no love in Madison, where I live, the state’s 2nd most populated city… Go into a sports garb/swag store and you’ll find more Bulls things than Bucks memorabilia, IF ANY.
Love your comment on fan trust… It is about trust, and I hate to say it, but that bridge was burned when we traded Ray Allen.
AKA worst trade ever in Bucks history
"He always plays like he's a pit bull that hasn't been fed in about a year and that you've got pork chops in your pockets and that's the basketball." Of course, he's Canadian
and not to be a 'Negative Nancy'
But I think Terry Porter deserved more time as coach.
loL
“centre”
A samurai sword collection. If you can do it. I don’t know if you’re allowed.
by TwoShoesMcGooze on Jan 10, 2012 3:16 PM CST up reply actions

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