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Milwaukee Bucks Comments: Best Of Brew Hoop Game Threads, Week Two [Part 2]

The Milwaukee Bucks mercifully closed the book on their five-game west coast road trip, but not before posting losses to the Los Angeles Clippers and Phoenix Suns. Chris Paul and Blake Griffin helped the Clippers slow roll the Bucks, while Steve Nash let it be known the Bucks had no chance to beat the Suns from the beginning. The absences of Andrew Bogut, Mike Dunleavy and Beno Udrih have hurt, but the current problems run deeper than the current injuries. The Bucks have stumbled to 2-6 out of the gate, and now need a strong run in the next 10 games to stay relevant in the Eastern Conference for the remainder of the season.

They say misery loves company, but then again they say a lot of things...and "they" should probably take the time to read our Brew Hoop gamethreads. The recent failures and inadequacies of the team have inspired some great insights, comedic tangents and heartfelt reactions from the Brew Hoop community. Whether you comment regularly during games or simply stop by to watch the responses roll in, this is our chance to highlight the best of what we see each game and each week. Consider it an organic love letter to our faithful readers and commenters, and an open invitation to all newcomers to join in the fun. Check out the reactions to games against the Clippers and Suns beyond the jump:

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Bucks vs Clippers (92-86 Loss)


Related: Bucks vs Clippers Game Recap


What Happened (Brew Hoop Game Recap Excerpt):

Ah yes, the "respectable" loss...

Two days after choking away a 21-point lead in Sacramento, the Bucks made it four losses out of four on their Western trip with a relatively predictable (and thus painless?) loss to the Clippers in Los Angeles, and in the end it was the usual suspects doing most of the usual things for both sides . The Bucks' reliance on Stephen Jackson (18 points on 4/18 shooting, 4 to), Brandon Jennings (21 points, 9/21 fg, 7 ast, 6 rebs, 2 to) and Drew Gooden (18 points on 14 shots, 13 rebs) meant plenty of head-scratching shots, but it still took the Clippers 24 minutes to wake up and get their game in gear behind Griffin, Racine native Caron Butler (14 of his 20 in the third) and Chauncey Billups (19 points on 14 shots).

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This is a spectacular reference, but then Jon Brockman somehow manages to work his way into the picture. Leave it to Brockman...

unklchuk: Robert Burton said it all in the 16th century, after giving the populace what they wanted with the more popular soundbite. Later in his library he cursed under his breath, threw his glass of whiskey against the fireplace bricks, and declaimed: "WTF! What can't be endured must be cured!!" Burton, although he held prominence as an Oxford scholar and religious official, must have been a Milwaukee Bucks fan at heart. He is famous for penning the classic The Anatomy of Melancholy. That work does not mention the Bucks by name (it would have destroyed his good reputation) but the inspiration is obvious.

Dan Sinclair: "Brockman's Tour of Destruction" Chapter 6 in The Anatomy of Melancholy

CanadaBucks: See how Griffin likes the flying elbow drop

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It was indigestion, CanadaBucks.

Steve von Horn: I can feel the excitement in here for tonight's game. I can feel it.

CanadaBucks: Where?

Steve von Horn: That's why I said feel. I can't see it yet. :)

CanadaBucks: Sure that's not indigestion?

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At least one person on the boards had some fun during the game. Unfortunately, he happened to be a visiting Clippers fan.

senelcoolidge: Should be a fun game.

CanadaBucks: Clippers fan?

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I've heard that if you watch enough video clips of Ersan Ilyasova trying to score in the post, you turn into stone. I'm too scared to find out if it's true.

Steve von Horn: Ersan looks just as ugly operating in the post as I expected him to look. That's a relief.

tommyr: Was that ugly or what? Looked like he was trying to shake spiders off his arm.

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Small victories exist amid bigger defeats. One minute of real-time separates Dave's first comment from his second comment.

AussieTom: Blow the siren, we are up by one.

Big Crazy Dave: And the Bucks are up 1....

Big Crazy Dave: ...were...

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Bucks first-round pick Tobias Harris made his NBA regular season debut and acquitted himself quite well in 8:39 of action. The Bucks fan base has been waiting to see him for a while now...

FearTheDeer: Harris! I couldn't be happier.

tommyr: Nice shot Tobias.

TheJay: Yay, first round points!

CanadaBucks: W000000000t. Take that Marshawn

Jacob Grinyer: Tobias. Youth!

Dan Sinclair: Harris on pace to make 67% of his shots and have the other 33% blocked by Blake Griffin.

Steve von Horn: I say whoever has the recap tonight has to refrain from using the term "welcome to the NBA" for anything on Harris. Please....for the love of creativity and avoidance of obligatory sports tropes....I beg of you Dan/Frank.

Dan Sinclair: Too late, I've already saved the permalink as ...welcome-to-the-nba-tobias-harris-kobe-is-clutch-lebron-suckzzzz

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I feel like "Gardettos" could become an effective internet meme under the right circumstances, so be sure to file this one away for later.

Dan Sinclair: Laying off the keyboard for a bit. Gardettos.

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I'm still waiting for an answer on this one. Add this to the list of things I am scared to try.

Steve von Horn: If you point a mirror at the TV while Reggie Evans is shooting the ball, what happens? Does it crack the TV or the mirror?

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Brockman took contact to the eye and had to leave the game. I was really hoping he would return to action with a pirate patch over the bruise, but it never happened. Oh well.

MadTown Hoops: Man Down, Brockman overboard. A Bucks season is a lot like a horror movie. Everyone gets slowly picked off as you yell at the screen.

Steve von Horn: Nobody is going to look for Brockman, so we're fine.

Superelkman: Don't go upstairs!!!

MadTown Hoops: Why are you at the top of the key?!? You are a power forward! Stay away from the top of the key!!!

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Stephen Jackson is bringing people together. THAT IS LEADERSHIP!

Superelkman: I like Jackson going to the rack.

FearTheDeer: I was just going to say that

Superelkman: We both thought it because we are clearly soul mates.

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Blake Griffin took a delayed pass from Chris Paul on high pick-and-roll and turned it into a highlight dunk over Ersan Ilyasova. Every time I watch this clip a little piece of remaining respect for Ersan dies off...

Dan Sinclair: RIP Ersan

MadTown Hoops: Actually, that would explain a few things if he was undead, some sort of freakish Eastern European blending of unholy magic and unnatural science.

Steve von Horn: He could be Dr. Frankenstein's monster. Got the right look about him

MadTown Hoops: Exactly, after he leaves the Bucks he's going to rampage and then wander the Arctic.

FearTheDeer: Is he really dead?

Dan Sinclair: Only his dignity.

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Put a new player on your draft boards. He's a half-cyborg, half-Kurdish herdsman that stands 7-5 and he's possibly only 19 years old!

Dan Sinclair: TOBIAS HARRIS JUST COST LEUER AN OFFENSIVE REBOUND

Jacob Grinyer: TRADE HIM. Agzdhfdghjkdhdlebronsnotclutchsklgnjdjkd

Superelkman: Who is Agzdhfdghjkdhdlebronsnotclutchsklgnjdjkd?

Jacob Grinyer: The best player.

MadTown Hoops: He's a seven foot Kurdish herdsman and he's the next big thing.

Big Crazy Dave: ...in the sheep paddock...

Brick's house: I heard he was 7-5 with an 8 foot wingspan. No hangtime though, a tippy toe dunker.

Superelkman: He is also half cyborg.

MadTown Hoops: Plus, he's only 19 so he has room to grow. What do you mean he's 24 and he has seven children? All of those birth certificates were destroyed, no he's definitely 19 and his ouzo problem is totally under control. He goes to meetings. It's cool.

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The last words go to MadTown for a gem of a line that cuts deep.

MadTown Hoops: The Bucks don't suck, they are tantalizingly adequate.

Bucks vs Suns (109-93 Loss)


Related: Bucks vs Suns Game Recap


What Happened (Brew Hoop Game Recap Excerpt):

Some points in garbage time helped the Bucks mask the Suns' dominance, but the proof is in the final line. Steve Nash finished with a whopping 17 assists, 10 points and only 3 turnovers, the Suns shot 55.8% as a team and 45.5% from three and every Suns starter shot at least 50% from the field. As for the Bucks, no starter shot over 50%, only Ersan Ilyasova scored in double digits (11 points) for the starting five and the team as whole stumbled to 43.0% on field goals and 20.0% on threes. In other words, just another loss in Phoenix.

The 109-93 loss marks the 24th-straight road loss for the Bucks in Phoenix, a dubious streak that dates back to February 21, 1987, and also ties a Suns franchise record for consecutive home wins over a single opponent.

Hey, the Bucks haven't won in Phoenix in a while.

Mitchell Maurer: February 21, 1987. I was three months from being a twinkle in my daddy's eye.

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Steve Nash in high pick-and-roll felt unstoppable all night long. Can't get off to a better start than this as an NBA point guard.

Brick's house: Nash has seven assists for seven Suns FGs.

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It might be time to burn the road reds after going 0-5 on the west coast.

TheJay: I like that the Bucks only brought one set of uniforms for this entire trip.

Brick's house: Yeah, I am beginning to hate these red uniforms by association.

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The NBA League Pass free preview gave fans a chance to appreciate just how good Jim Paschke and Jon McGlocklin have been calling Bucks games over the years.

MadTown Hoops: "Gortat altered the shot" "Gee, that's as good as a block." These Suns announcers are crap. It's nice to know that we have one of the best broadcast teams out there, even if our team is junky at times.

2-33: Like how the Clippers announcers ignored Leuer's block of Griffin the other night...Lame.

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Speaking of Paschke, he dropped this little nugget during the broadcast.

AussieTom: Bit of trivia.....Channing Fyre is Tobias Harris' cousin

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Steve Nash finished with 17 assists and he played less than three quarters. Breaking News: he's good at basketball.

Brick's house: That Nash is pretty good.

kanyon: He may have a future in this league.

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He actually posted this same hypothetical score during the third quarter of the Clippers game as well, so I will doff my chapeau for a nice little jab tossed at the inept offense on multiple nights.

TwoShoesMcGooze: They can't miss!!! Bucks win 104-90!!!

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Garbage time scouting reports are always fun.

BlackPack-fan: Hobson showin off da handulls

MadTown Hoops: Harris is fun to watch. He actually reminds me of Barkley with his girthful mobility.

MadTown Hoops: Watching Sanders play is like watching a sad little puppy struggle in quicksand.

Superelkman: So... awesome?

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There is a bright side. It's smaller than the dark side in this case, but there is always a bright side.

Big Crazy Dave: Another bright side, our scrubs are better than their scrubs...17-15 this quarter ;)

Bucks: At least our rookies don't look like Joe Alexander. Improvement.

BlackPack-fan: This is going to help our "bench points" stat.

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Make to watch Bucks games with a mask on or something, their brand of basketball might be contagious.

tommyr: The Bucks jinxed my son's team. Up 13 at half Saturday, they were out-scored 19-3 in the third quarter. I am blaming Scott Skiles ;)


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I'm glad you are enjoying this as much as I am right now.

I honestly smile about 80% of the time while preparing this feature, which I certainly can’t say about my demeanor when breaking down Bucks games or doing analysis on the players.

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by Steve von Horn on Jan 9, 2012 11:14 PM CST up reply actions  

Is this still working well for everyone else?

Good? Bad? Indifferent?

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by Steve von Horn on Jan 9, 2012 11:14 PM CST up reply actions  

I love these.

I laugh at them every time I read through them!

On Wisconsin!

by Celtin on Jan 10, 2012 1:12 AM CST up reply actions  

Need affirmation do you?

Deposit 100 bucks, er, make that 70 bucks (I’m a softie) in my secret Swiss bank account and I’ll provide a glowing testimonial that’ll make the competition’s heads spin. If they have heads.

These postings and the reporters’ styles seem to establish a tone for this forum that is different (I assume) than that of most other pro hoops forums. Here it feels like the Great ScoreKeeper in the Sky awards points for wit and style as well as analysis and fan-type emotion. Is that normal? (That’s a BP softball.)

Not only are the collected posts from the game thread good commentary on the games, not only are they funny, but THEY HAVE SUBTEXT.

Subtext sometimes seems to be my favorite thing in all the world that doesn’t involve intense personal interactions. A talking head on my TV a couple years back introduced me to the concept. He said that Shakespeare wrote in a time when writers limited themselves to saying things in the lines (the words) and did not like today try to say or suggest more between the lines.

I found that remarkably useful. And the writers I most enjoy (not Shakespeare) do indeed say certain things on the page in the words, but also say important and sometimes profound things between the lines. In the feel of the writing. In the way the writing strikes meaningful “harmonics” with some larger context.

Good humor does that. It’s first-impact funny, but then if you swish it around your brain — like a wine taster swishes the wine in his mouth — you get a fuller, more complex (now there’s a wine word!) taste.

IMHO, the folks here use subtext.

by unklchuk on Jan 10, 2012 9:00 AM CST up reply actions  

I don't necessarily need affirmation, but I always need honest feedback.

When the two cross paths, then it’s a party. I really am happy to see you gentlemen enjoy this too.

Am I talking about the feature or Bucks basketball? I’ll never tell.

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by Steve von Horn on Jan 10, 2012 9:29 AM CST up reply actions  

the affirmation line was, just for the record, tongue in cheek. not sure there was ANY point to it at all. just an easy way to a subject line. if there was, it might have been to suggest the commonplace thought that asking for feedback tends to shape the kind of feedback you receive. you know that. doesn’t mean it’s not worthwhile. doesn’t mean this group isn’t brave enough to offer the honest kind, by and large. but, all things being equal, folks are nicer when responding to a request for feedback.

i’m pretty sure you have page hits and other tools to evaluate the performance of this feature.

personally, i like reading the page a lot. i’m interested in watching the feature over time to see what develops.

(it’s much more accessible than advanced stats.)

by unklchuk on Jan 10, 2012 9:45 AM CST up reply actions  

Oh hey, I wasn't upset by the line at all. I just know you are always going to give your honest opinion (as with most of the commenters) which is why I feel comfortable asking in the first place.

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by Steve von Horn on Jan 10, 2012 12:37 PM CST up reply actions  

I vote this best new feature

"He always plays like he's a pit bull that hasn't been fed in about a year and that you've got pork chops in your pockets and that's the basketball." Of course, he's Canadian

by CanadaBucks on Jan 10, 2012 10:25 AM CST up reply actions  

I played with an image

From this site, I think. Internet resolution makes it rough, raggedy. But lately this is the way I think Scott Skiles feels in his job. Not sure it will show properly.

by unklchuk on Jan 10, 2012 10:42 AM CST reply actions  

That almost captures what my migraines feel like sometimes.

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by Steve von Horn on Jan 10, 2012 12:35 PM CST up reply actions  

Maybe you should take that class in Buddhist Yawning

I’m lucky in many ways. Almost all of my headaches have been earned through alcohol consumption. Sometimes, but too seldom, worth the price. But all that stuff ended about a dozen years ago. Hope medical science puts an end to yours.

I sent the pic to a guy on the Bucks legal staff. Got to know him several years back when the local cable thought they were barred from showing Bucks games here in Appleton. (Translation: they didn’t particularly want to show the games.) I wrote the Bucks asking if the ban was real. They checked with the NBA home office. The NBA said no ban applies. Bucks told me. I forwarded that to the local cable. Local cable chose not to believe. I told the Bucks, who got the NBA to send a formal legal statement saying the games should be shown. Local cable gave up and has been showing them ever since.

The Bucks legal guy got me a pair of free tickets in thanks. A local evangelical minister and I drove down and enjoyed the game. Ticket offer still stands, but my free overnight lodging has turned into a rooming house for grad students run by a good friend, so the trip isn’t as workable as in past years. Old men tend to stay close to home.

Legal guy thanked me for the pic. Got the feeling that the real Skiles as he sees him is even stronger in suffering than my image. Legal guy offered some positive hopes about the team, and about the need to play them one by one and let the results play out. Hope for health. The tankers in other forums are crying for tearing it all down, but legal guy sounds more like hold steady on the course.

by unklchuk on Jan 10, 2012 1:00 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah, I mean,

…now is not the time in the season to make tank/ no tank decisions.

A samurai sword collection. If you can do it. I don’t know if you’re allowed.

by TwoShoesMcGooze on Jan 10, 2012 2:38 PM CST up reply actions  

I’m still waiting for an answer on this one. Add this to the list of things I am scared to try.

Steve von Horn: If you point a mirror at the TV while Reggie Evans is shooting the ball, what happens? Does it crack the TV or the mirror?

I wasn’t game to answer this in the thread…too complex! BTW -I am NOT going to try this at home…my mirror is worth more than my TV….

Fear the 'Dear'? You're damn right I'm scared of my wife!

by Big Crazy Dave on Jan 10, 2012 11:01 PM CST reply actions  

That's a great answer, Dave.

You’ve either got one hell of a mirror or a pretty crappy TV. I like the fact that I’m not sure which option is more correct :)

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by Steve von Horn on Jan 10, 2012 11:48 PM CST up reply actions  

A conundrum of physics ;)

Oh, and as to the relative value of my TV versus my mirror…I’ll keep that my little secret!

Fear the 'Dear'? You're damn right I'm scared of my wife!

by Big Crazy Dave on Jan 11, 2012 5:13 AM CST up reply actions  

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